Comments on: 10/2 – Curious Cat Asks…

By: Timmy!

Timmy! — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:16:00 +0000

who cares. the guy appeared in a handful of issues.. and kirkman has said he was originally created only to be killed anyway.. th e”gay issue” just sorta crept in there and it wasnt intentional when he created the character. tho kirkman DOES say he regrets killing him off cuase there werent that many gay characters in marvel at the time. guess they more than made up for it huh?

By: T.

T. — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:38:41 +0000

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By: Graeme Burk

Graeme Burk — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:46:11 +0000

On a more meta levelâ€¦ yes, it was atrociously dumb of Joe Q to make hay of Freedom Ring the issue before he was slated to die.

I think it makes the paucity of Marvel’s position, which seems to be “Marvel has always been always at war with Eastasia, er, proudly publishing gay characters in non-Max titles even if they’re second string characters in soon-to-be-cancelled books called Marvel Team-Up and Batwoman had nothing to do with that nosiree” even more evident. It’s downright embarrassing.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:24:35 +0000

Well since 616 Tony Stark would NEVER kill a hero, and this obviously is an alternate universe Tony…I think. Maybe. Huh. Now I’m confused.

By: Katherine

Katherine — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:02:55 +0000

It was too abrupt — I was left going “huh? Is he — oh. Oh, he’s really dead. Huh.”

He wasn’t a particularly developed character and I didn’t like him much, but there’s plenty of room to resurrect him if somebody really wanted to (just have Crusader get into trouble that he needs help for, get within 15′ of the grave — boom, resurrection; easily done).

On a more meta level… yes, it was atrociously dumb of Joe Q to make hay of Freedom Ring the issue before he was slated to die. (Especially when he could have raised, say, Moondragon and Phyla-Vell in Annihilation, or Karolina in Runaways, or Frenchie in Moon Knight.) He has a bit of a tendency to speak before he thinks, doesn’t he? He should work on that, or he’ll end up saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and get his ass fired.

By: Pol Rua

Pol Rua — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 06:39:29 +0000

The character was born to die.

By: fluid state

fluid state — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:46:23 +0000

I’m not entirely convinced Joe Q. actually reads the comics he hypes.

By: Fortress Keeper

Fortress Keeper — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:39:29 +0000

I think it’s lame that, a week or two before, this character was touted by Joe Quesada as an example of Marvel’s open-mindedness and acceptance of gay characters.

Then, about two weeks later, he’s “penetrated” to death as a poster above put it.

Nice.

By: Ian

Ian — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:35:22 +0000

I was shocked. After the near death experience earlier in the story, and the near comeback from that I figured “he’s going to be just fine now”. But no, not really. I thought it was wonderful. It was a really interesting story about not everyone being a lucky, succesful super-hero right out the gate. I mean, he wasn’t fooled like Gravity or hurt like Spider-man, he was paralyzed and then killed. And then to see his family’s reaction. It really made the whole story something different.

I hope he NEVER comes back because there is no reason to come back. Yeah he was gay, but as a character there really wasn’t that much to him. Also, his costume was terrible.

By: Nick?!

Nick?! — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:50:24 +0000

Marvel’s most out-and-proud gay super-hero… *penetrated* to death?

I promise not to read too much into that….

By: yo go re

yo go re — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:42:30 +0000

I wasn’t crazy about the character, living or dying, but I get the feeling he was created specifically to give the villain someone to kill who we’d care about. You can off all the generic SHIELD agents you want, but who’s going to give a flip? He was introduced, set up and set loose specifically to bite it. Man in Refrigerator syndrome…

By: Ian Astheimer

Ian Astheimer — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:40:07 +0000

Was anyone other than Kirkman going to use him anyway?

By: John

John — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:44:26 +0000

Who the hell is Freedom Ring?

By: Jordan D. White

Jordan D. White — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:13:09 +0000

Yeah, I thought it was a let down. It made me enjoy the story that preceeded it much less. Waste of my time. I really like Kirkman, too, so it was doubly disappointing. Ah well.

By: Kemayo

Kemayo — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:25:56 +0000

Yeah, Crusader took the ring from him and was using it to get some Skrull lovin’ at the end of the issue.

I was disappointed. It was such a cop-out way to kill him.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:55:11 +0000

But he doesn’t have the ring anymore, right?

By: eqdoktor

eqdoktor — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:44:00 +0000

Comicbook Death. He will be back.
Its an easy out since his ring basically alters reality.