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		<title>By: Treasure Hunters roadshow</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-842263</link>
		<dc:creator>Treasure Hunters roadshow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 04:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi would you mind sharing which blog platform you&#039;re using? I&#039;m looking to start my own blog soon but I&#039;m having a tough time making a decision between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal. The reason I ask is because your layout seems different then most blogs and I&#039;m looking for something unique.                  P.S Sorry for being off-topic but I had to ask!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi would you mind sharing which blog platform you&#8217;re using? I&#8217;m looking to start my own blog soon but I&#8217;m having a tough time making a decision between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal. The reason I ask is because your layout seems different then most blogs and I&#8217;m looking for something unique.                  P.S Sorry for being off-topic but I had to ask!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Gladstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Gladstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, part of the polygraph (but not the part that Marston invented) consists of a rubber hose that goes around the subject&#039;s lower chest (to measure diaphragm/lung movement) much like a lariat ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, part of the polygraph (but not the part that Marston invented) consists of a rubber hose that goes around the subject&#8217;s lower chest (to measure diaphragm/lung movement) much like a lariat &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priceless ending to this debate, especially with the bad grammar.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander Graham Bell did NOT invented the telephone.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-7591</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I initially posted to this effect when I first found this site, or rather the previous one, which was well after the fact. All the postings there were lost in the transfer, of course. After thinking about it a while (as opposed to immediately reposting that Kurt Busiek was only slightly off the beam instead of real wrong about Marvel&#039;s mid--70s launching of two titles as giant--sizers which were then reduced to standard format with their second issues under the &quot;two titles in one lunch&quot; item) I decided it should be said. That I took as long as I did to come to that conclusion should indicate that I wasn&#039;t THAT certain about how much it needed to be restated, myself. So, yeah, I&#039;d say we have reached an understanding here all the way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I initially posted to this effect when I first found this site, or rather the previous one, which was well after the fact. All the postings there were lost in the transfer, of course. After thinking about it a while (as opposed to immediately reposting that Kurt Busiek was only slightly off the beam instead of real wrong about Marvel&#8217;s mid&#8211;70s launching of two titles as giant&#8211;sizers which were then reduced to standard format with their second issues under the &#8220;two titles in one lunch&#8221; item) I decided it should be said. That I took as long as I did to come to that conclusion should indicate that I wasn&#8217;t THAT certain about how much it needed to be restated, myself. So, yeah, I&#8217;d say we have reached an understanding here all the way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-7548</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sure, no doubt - I&#039;m cool with &quot;You said &#039;polygraph test&#039; so that it would be false.&quot; Yeah, that&#039;s clearly what I did here. I could just as well have done &quot;Marston invented the lie detector&quot; and had it be a true urban legend. I just chose to go the other route to have the false urban legend. And I don&#039;t see that choice as all that interesting - especially not interesting enough to be still discussing it, what, a year after the fact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure, no doubt &#8211; I&#8217;m cool with &#8220;You said &#8216;polygraph test&#8217; so that it would be false.&#8221; Yeah, that&#8217;s clearly what I did here. I could just as well have done &#8220;Marston invented the lie detector&#8221; and had it be a true urban legend. I just chose to go the other route to have the false urban legend. And I don&#8217;t see that choice as all that interesting &#8211; especially not interesting enough to be still discussing it, what, a year after the fact?</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is only because people don&#039;t know what the polygraph test is. For my part, I never heard him connected to the polygraph test until this legend. What I heard was that he invented the lie detector. Maybe I&#039;ve just been lucky to hear a more specific calbier of gossip?

Of course, since most people use the two terms interchangably, it&#039;s easy to see where the &quot;he invented the polygraph&quot; crowd gets confused. Heck, I didn&#039;t even know the modern lie detector was a combination of four tests (though, really, the &quot;poly&quot; should have given that away).

However, semantics come in not in the facts of the case, but the way you choose to phrase the legend in question. You chose &quot;polygraph test&quot; over &quot;lie detector,&quot; so it&#039;s false. Or at least three-fourths false, which constitutes a majority. Doing this Snopes-style, the legend would have a yellow circle next to it, splitting the difference. Have you got a header for &quot;False-ish?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is only because people don&#8217;t know what the polygraph test is. For my part, I never heard him connected to the polygraph test until this legend. What I heard was that he invented the lie detector. Maybe I&#8217;ve just been lucky to hear a more specific calbier of gossip?</p>
<p>Of course, since most people use the two terms interchangably, it&#8217;s easy to see where the &#8220;he invented the polygraph&#8221; crowd gets confused. Heck, I didn&#8217;t even know the modern lie detector was a combination of four tests (though, really, the &#8220;poly&#8221; should have given that away).</p>
<p>However, semantics come in not in the facts of the case, but the way you choose to phrase the legend in question. You chose &#8220;polygraph test&#8221; over &#8220;lie detector,&#8221; so it&#8217;s false. Or at least three-fourths false, which constitutes a majority. Doing this Snopes-style, the legend would have a yellow circle next to it, splitting the difference. Have you got a header for &#8220;False-ish?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-7541</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That the general public may ignore the inventor of the cellular phone does not mean that Bell invented the cellular phone, as he did not.

Just as Marston did not invent the polygraph test.

Giving credit to Marston for the polygraph would be akin to crediting the invention of the car to the fellow who invented the wheel.

It&#039;s merely one aspect of the polygraph test, and yet, do a simple google search on Marston and the polygraph test, and you will find dozens of citations of Marston as &quot;inventor of the polygraph test,&quot; which is just as incorrect as denying Otto Binder the creation of Supergirl, because the idea &quot;came from Superman.&quot;

It&#039;s no more semantics as calling anyone the inventor of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the general public may ignore the inventor of the cellular phone does not mean that Bell invented the cellular phone, as he did not.</p>
<p>Just as Marston did not invent the polygraph test.</p>
<p>Giving credit to Marston for the polygraph would be akin to crediting the invention of the car to the fellow who invented the wheel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s merely one aspect of the polygraph test, and yet, do a simple google search on Marston and the polygraph test, and you will find dozens of citations of Marston as &#8220;inventor of the polygraph test,&#8221; which is just as incorrect as denying Otto Binder the creation of Supergirl, because the idea &#8220;came from Superman.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no more semantics as calling anyone the inventor of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yet if you held up a cell phone and said &quot;who invented this,&quot; most people would respond with &quot;Alexander Graham Bell.&quot; Because the person who invented phones is important, and the person who came up with an improvement for them isn&#039;t.

This, like the Black Canary/Longbow Hunters legend, is more a matter of semantics leading to true or false. The usual legend is that WMM invented the lie detector, which he did. That detector is now used as part of a larger test, which he did not invent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yet if you held up a cell phone and said &#8220;who invented this,&#8221; most people would respond with &#8220;Alexander Graham Bell.&#8221; Because the person who invented phones is important, and the person who came up with an improvement for them isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This, like the Black Canary/Longbow Hunters legend, is more a matter of semantics leading to true or false. The usual legend is that WMM invented the lie detector, which he did. That detector is now used as part of a larger test, which he did not invent&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-7533</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.

Martin Cooper invented the cellular telephone.

Two different things.

Just like the polygraph test and Marston&#039;s lie detector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.</p>
<p>Martin Cooper invented the cellular telephone.</p>
<p>Two different things.</p>
<p>Just like the polygraph test and Marston&#8217;s lie detector.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try again: Marston invented the lie detector, which was further developed/improved/perfected by other hands, and in the process a different name was given to the current version. What is in use today is no more or less recognizable as the original invention than is the case with Alexander Graham Bell&#039;s telephone. If, as I expect, the day arrives when the only telephones in existence are cell phones, then they will even have the name change in common with Marston&#039;s invention and that semantic technicality of a distinction will cease to exist. Marston invented the basis of the polygraph just as Bell invented the basis of the cell phone. But at this point, other telephones DO exist and nobody is trying to call a cell phone a distinctly separate invention and say flatly that Bell did NOT invent it at all, but just a particular type of telephone. So it is not really a false urban legend, just a semantic technicality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try again: Marston invented the lie detector, which was further developed/improved/perfected by other hands, and in the process a different name was given to the current version. What is in use today is no more or less recognizable as the original invention than is the case with Alexander Graham Bell&#8217;s telephone. If, as I expect, the day arrives when the only telephones in existence are cell phones, then they will even have the name change in common with Marston&#8217;s invention and that semantic technicality of a distinction will cease to exist. Marston invented the basis of the polygraph just as Bell invented the basis of the cell phone. But at this point, other telephones DO exist and nobody is trying to call a cell phone a distinctly separate invention and say flatly that Bell did NOT invent it at all, but just a particular type of telephone. So it is not really a false urban legend, just a semantic technicality.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The polygraph test, however, uses three OTHER methods, not just blood pressure. It is only when using the four methods combined that the results of the polygraph test are achieved. The other three tests are for heart rate, respiration and skin conductivity.

Still, one out of four is very impressive!&quot;

Seems really, VERY clear to me.  A polygraph test HAS to test for all four changes in biological feedback in order to be a polygraph test.  

Marston invented a lie detector.  That lie detector was not a polygraph test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The polygraph test, however, uses three OTHER methods, not just blood pressure. It is only when using the four methods combined that the results of the polygraph test are achieved. The other three tests are for heart rate, respiration and skin conductivity.</p>
<p>Still, one out of four is very impressive!&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems really, VERY clear to me.  A polygraph test HAS to test for all four changes in biological feedback in order to be a polygraph test.  </p>
<p>Marston invented a lie detector.  That lie detector was not a polygraph test.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed that I inadvertently reversed the meaning in the quote. My apologies. Is THAT why you haven&#039;t responded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed that I inadvertently reversed the meaning in the quote. My apologies. Is THAT why you haven&#8217;t responded?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-6942</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How exactly is &#039;...Marston did not invent the polygraph...&#039; NOT a false statement?&quot;

Apparently, you read nothing of my first posting--which makes the point irrefutably clear, IMHO--but the bottom line. If you did read more, explain what there is about it that you feel doesn&#039;t work or that you didn&#039;t follow, but don&#039;t just ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How exactly is &#8216;&#8230;Marston did not invent the polygraph&#8230;&#8217; NOT a false statement?&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently, you read nothing of my first posting&#8211;which makes the point irrefutably clear, IMHO&#8211;but the bottom line. If you did read more, explain what there is about it that you feel doesn&#8217;t work or that you didn&#8217;t follow, but don&#8217;t just ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-6865</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 00:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exactly is &lt;blockquote&gt;Wonder Woman creator William Moulton Marston invented the polygraph test!&lt;/blockquote&gt; NOT a false statement?</description>
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<blockquote>Wonder Woman creator William Moulton Marston invented the polygraph test!</p></blockquote>
<p> NOT a false statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-19/comment-page-1/#comment-6858</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE, Wm. M. Marston and the polygraph:

I had the following placed on the old site&#039;s message board for this Urban Legends edition, and have finally decided to repost it here (greatly revised to amplify and clarify the point), though I have no idea if anybody, other than Brian, checks in on these old ones (*I* haven&#039;t been here since well before the move). I feel that this idea just needs to be covered.

There is only one difference between saying that Marston did not (co--)invent (he had a partner) the polygraph and Alexander Graham Bell did not invent the telephone, and that is the fact that the current technical name for the lie detector comes from developments/improvements made subsequently by other people while the other is still called the same thing. Today&#039;s telephones actually bear less of a resemblance to Bell&#039;s invention than today&#039;s polygraphs do to Marston&#039;s. If cell phones eventually become the only kind of telephone in existence, the situation would be completely analogous. Just as Bell invented the telephone but not the cell phone, Marston did (co--)invent the lie detector but not the polygraph. Therefore, this is NOT a false urban legend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE, Wm. M. Marston and the polygraph:</p>
<p>I had the following placed on the old site&#8217;s message board for this Urban Legends edition, and have finally decided to repost it here (greatly revised to amplify and clarify the point), though I have no idea if anybody, other than Brian, checks in on these old ones (*I* haven&#8217;t been here since well before the move). I feel that this idea just needs to be covered.</p>
<p>There is only one difference between saying that Marston did not (co&#8211;)invent (he had a partner) the polygraph and Alexander Graham Bell did not invent the telephone, and that is the fact that the current technical name for the lie detector comes from developments/improvements made subsequently by other people while the other is still called the same thing. Today&#8217;s telephones actually bear less of a resemblance to Bell&#8217;s invention than today&#8217;s polygraphs do to Marston&#8217;s. If cell phones eventually become the only kind of telephone in existence, the situation would be completely analogous. Just as Bell invented the telephone but not the cell phone, Marston did (co&#8211;)invent the lie detector but not the polygraph. Therefore, this is NOT a false urban legend.</p>
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