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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>batman the jaker</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit late in the game, here, but many of the characters from Static Shock were from the Milestone comics line, and others were heavily influenced by the Milestone continuity.  The comics were not in DC continuity, though there was a crossover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit late in the game, here, but many of the characters from Static Shock were from the Milestone comics line, and others were heavily influenced by the Milestone continuity.  The comics were not in DC continuity, though there was a crossover.</p>
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		<title>By: yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lock-Up was introduced during No Man&#039;s Land, I think - still post-cartoon, but definite before Villains United.

And Roxy Rocket made her DCU debut last month.

Why does DC hate Tony Isabella so much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lock-Up was introduced during No Man&#8217;s Land, I think &#8211; still post-cartoon, but definite before Villains United.</p>
<p>And Roxy Rocket made her DCU debut last month.</p>
<p>Why does DC hate Tony Isabella so much?</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
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		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are two other villains I only recall seeing on Justice League, and never in the comics - Tsukuri and Lady Lunar - but Iâ€™m not as certain on the two of them&quot;

Well, Lady Lunar was in the comics long before she was in JLU.
And Tsukuri was based of Katana(She was changed alot, but still)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are two other villains I only recall seeing on Justice League, and never in the comics &#8211; Tsukuri and Lady Lunar &#8211; but Iâ€™m not as certain on the two of them&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Lady Lunar was in the comics long before she was in JLU.<br />
And Tsukuri was based of Katana(She was changed alot, but still)</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Harlequin made only one JSA appearance in the 1940s, but she was effectively a Catwoman-style supporting cast member in Green Lantern&#039;s stories from 1947 on, repeatedly posing as a villainess to try and get the hero&#039;s romantic attentions and usually deliberately orchestrating the capture of the real criminals with whom she worked.

She was in many ways the antithesis of Harley Quinn, since her backstory was that, as Molly Maynne, her imposing 6&#039; height and athletic prowess scared all the menfolk off, as did her fierce independent streak.  Working as Alan Scott&#039;s executive assistant, she took up as the Harlequin largely because she figured that by facing GL as an equal she might win him over as just that.  And thanks to Roy Thomas in the 1980s, she finally did, with the result that they&#039;re currently married.

The Joker&#039;s sidekick Harley Quinn has very few similarities to the Golden Age Harlequin aside from the name, which I suspect was chosen primarily because it&#039;s about the only synonym for clown that easily lends itself to being feminized.  Harley is a subordiante, sidekick character with no exotic weaponry as with Maynne, and with a costume that&#039;s not in any way similar to the 1940s character&#039;s.

I wondered the same thing myself when I first saw Quinn on B:TAS -- I&#039;d already heard of the 40s version by then -- but within her first line or two of dialogue on the show it was clear there was no inspirational link between Alan Scott&#039;s self-proclaimed &quot;loving enemy&quot; and the Joker&#039;s codependent &quot;hench-wench.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Harlequin made only one JSA appearance in the 1940s, but she was effectively a Catwoman-style supporting cast member in Green Lantern&#8217;s stories from 1947 on, repeatedly posing as a villainess to try and get the hero&#8217;s romantic attentions and usually deliberately orchestrating the capture of the real criminals with whom she worked.</p>
<p>She was in many ways the antithesis of Harley Quinn, since her backstory was that, as Molly Maynne, her imposing 6&#8242; height and athletic prowess scared all the menfolk off, as did her fierce independent streak.  Working as Alan Scott&#8217;s executive assistant, she took up as the Harlequin largely because she figured that by facing GL as an equal she might win him over as just that.  And thanks to Roy Thomas in the 1980s, she finally did, with the result that they&#8217;re currently married.</p>
<p>The Joker&#8217;s sidekick Harley Quinn has very few similarities to the Golden Age Harlequin aside from the name, which I suspect was chosen primarily because it&#8217;s about the only synonym for clown that easily lends itself to being feminized.  Harley is a subordiante, sidekick character with no exotic weaponry as with Maynne, and with a costume that&#8217;s not in any way similar to the 1940s character&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I wondered the same thing myself when I first saw Quinn on B:TAS &#8212; I&#8217;d already heard of the 40s version by then &#8212; but within her first line or two of dialogue on the show it was clear there was no inspirational link between Alan Scott&#8217;s self-proclaimed &#8220;loving enemy&#8221; and the Joker&#8217;s codependent &#8220;hench-wench.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erasmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erasmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Harlequin as a female detective-type superhero in early All Star comics for the JSA. She used to dress in a female clown costume (blue pointy hat with a fuzzy ball on top, blue blouse and mask, with a flared black skirt).  I believe that character had red hair.  I&#039;m guessing the Joker&#039;s sidekick was a revamp/redesign of that character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Harlequin as a female detective-type superhero in early All Star comics for the JSA. She used to dress in a female clown costume (blue pointy hat with a fuzzy ball on top, blue blouse and mask, with a flared black skirt).  I believe that character had red hair.  I&#8217;m guessing the Joker&#8217;s sidekick was a revamp/redesign of that character.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynxara, Zan and Jayna actually made their DCU debut in the issues of &quot;Extreme Justice&quot; you mention. They&#039;ve since also appeared in a few issues of &quot;Young Justice,&quot; and there are rumors they&#039;re going to turn up in &quot;Teen Titans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynxara, Zan and Jayna actually made their DCU debut in the issues of &#8220;Extreme Justice&#8221; you mention. They&#8217;ve since also appeared in a few issues of &#8220;Young Justice,&#8221; and there are rumors they&#8217;re going to turn up in &#8220;Teen Titans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ig Natz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ig Natz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but was Montoya a lez in the cartoon as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but was Montoya a lez in the cartoon as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Jan and Zayna, or analogues thereof, have a deeply misfortunate appearance back in the Extreme Justice days? I recall hearing this discussed a lot at the time back in the comic shop I used to frequent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Jan and Zayna, or analogues thereof, have a deeply misfortunate appearance back in the Extreme Justice days? I recall hearing this discussed a lot at the time back in the comic shop I used to frequent.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio Diaz</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2005/10/27/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-22/comment-page-1/#comment-4285</link>
		<dc:creator>Julio Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other original characters to Batman: TAS include Baby Doll (who could arguably have been based on Roy Thomas&#039; Baby Boom in &quot;Infinity, Inc.,&quot; but they have vastly different origins and motivations) and Roxy Rocket. I don&#039;t believe either has appeared in the mainstream DCU as of yet.

Superman: TAS created a villain called Livewire who also appeared in a crossover episode of Batman, in which she teamed up with Harley and Ivy against Batgirl and Supergirl. She only recently made her first mainstream DCU appearance. Another Superman: TAS villain, Volcana, appeared on Justice League, but has not appeared in the comics.

In Justice League, they created Long Shadow, Wind Dragon, Juice, Shifter and Downpour - collectively known as the Ultimen. They were analogues for Super Friends characters Apache Chief, Samurai, Black Vulcan and Jayna and Zan, the Wonder Twins. None have appeared in the mainstream DCU (nor have the Super Friends characters, save Zan and Jayna). 

(It&#039;s also worth noting that Black Vulcan was intended to be the DCU character Black Lightning, but H-B created an &quot;original&quot; character to avoid paying creator Tony Isabella. Also, Samurai can be seen as an analogue for Red Tornado, and another character, El Dorado, has similar powers to the Martian Manhunter.)

There are two other villains I only recall seeing on Justice League, and never in the comics - Tsukuri and Lady Lunar - but I&#039;m not as certain on the two of them.

On another Super Friends tip, the original junior sidekicks to the Super Friends, Wendy and Marvin, recently made their mainstream DCU debut in Teen Titans - only about 30 years later!

No Wonder Dog or space monkey, Gleek, as yet!

To my knowledge, none of the original characters created for Static Shock (including Soul Power, another Black Lightning analogue), Batman Beyond or Teen Titans have yet appeared in the mainstream DCU. All three series debuted many significant new characters.

Further on the &quot;no Black Lightning characters &#039;cause we&#039;d have to pay Tony Isabella&quot; tip is JLU&#039;s villain Steven Mandragora, an analogue for Tobias Whale.

Finally, in the last season of Justice League Unlimited, DC requested that the series stop using Aquaman and related characters. As such, planned Black Manta appearances were replaced with a new character called Devil Ray, who has not appeared in the comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other original characters to Batman: TAS include Baby Doll (who could arguably have been based on Roy Thomas&#8217; Baby Boom in &#8220;Infinity, Inc.,&#8221; but they have vastly different origins and motivations) and Roxy Rocket. I don&#8217;t believe either has appeared in the mainstream DCU as of yet.</p>
<p>Superman: TAS created a villain called Livewire who also appeared in a crossover episode of Batman, in which she teamed up with Harley and Ivy against Batgirl and Supergirl. She only recently made her first mainstream DCU appearance. Another Superman: TAS villain, Volcana, appeared on Justice League, but has not appeared in the comics.</p>
<p>In Justice League, they created Long Shadow, Wind Dragon, Juice, Shifter and Downpour &#8211; collectively known as the Ultimen. They were analogues for Super Friends characters Apache Chief, Samurai, Black Vulcan and Jayna and Zan, the Wonder Twins. None have appeared in the mainstream DCU (nor have the Super Friends characters, save Zan and Jayna). </p>
<p>(It&#8217;s also worth noting that Black Vulcan was intended to be the DCU character Black Lightning, but H-B created an &#8220;original&#8221; character to avoid paying creator Tony Isabella. Also, Samurai can be seen as an analogue for Red Tornado, and another character, El Dorado, has similar powers to the Martian Manhunter.)</p>
<p>There are two other villains I only recall seeing on Justice League, and never in the comics &#8211; Tsukuri and Lady Lunar &#8211; but I&#8217;m not as certain on the two of them.</p>
<p>On another Super Friends tip, the original junior sidekicks to the Super Friends, Wendy and Marvin, recently made their mainstream DCU debut in Teen Titans &#8211; only about 30 years later!</p>
<p>No Wonder Dog or space monkey, Gleek, as yet!</p>
<p>To my knowledge, none of the original characters created for Static Shock (including Soul Power, another Black Lightning analogue), Batman Beyond or Teen Titans have yet appeared in the mainstream DCU. All three series debuted many significant new characters.</p>
<p>Further on the &#8220;no Black Lightning characters &#8217;cause we&#8217;d have to pay Tony Isabella&#8221; tip is JLU&#8217;s villain Steven Mandragora, an analogue for Tobias Whale.</p>
<p>Finally, in the last season of Justice League Unlimited, DC requested that the series stop using Aquaman and related characters. As such, planned Black Manta appearances were replaced with a new character called Devil Ray, who has not appeared in the comics.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other original characters to Batman: TAS include Baby Doll (who could arguably have been based on Roy Thomas&#039; Baby Boom in &quot;Infinity, Inc.,&quot; but they have vastly different origins and motivations) and Roxy Rocket. I don&#039;t believe either has appeared in the mainstream DCU as of yet.

Superman: TAS created a villain called Livewire who also appeared in a crossover episode of Batman, in which she teamed up with Harley and Ivy against Batgirl and Supergirl. She only recently made her first mainstream DCU appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other original characters to Batman: TAS include Baby Doll (who could arguably have been based on Roy Thomas&#8217; Baby Boom in &#8220;Infinity, Inc.,&#8221; but they have vastly different origins and motivations) and Roxy Rocket. I don&#8217;t believe either has appeared in the mainstream DCU as of yet.</p>
<p>Superman: TAS created a villain called Livewire who also appeared in a crossover episode of Batman, in which she teamed up with Harley and Ivy against Batgirl and Supergirl. She only recently made her first mainstream DCU appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Cain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Lock-Up appeared in Villains United.</description>
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		<title>By: Eyemelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eyemelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harley Quinn also appeared in the animated series several years before she was featured in the comics, as did Lock-Up (did he even make it to the comics?) Were there any more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harley Quinn also appeared in the animated series several years before she was featured in the comics, as did Lock-Up (did he even make it to the comics?) Were there any more?</p>
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