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	<title>Comments on: Friday Anger Management</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I never go on the forums anymore and mainly just stick to CSBG and Robot 6. I&#039;ll read something (let&#039;s say New Avengers) and think &quot;Oh wow that was a neat reveal at the end, I want to talk to someone about it&quot;  and head to the forums (because I&#039;m the only comic fan in my group of friends). What do I see? Comments about how Bendis isn&#039;t an REAL Avenger fan, Bendis should be unemployed, Bendis should undergo bodily harm, etc. 
A lot of them from people that have claimed to be reading his Avengers since the beginning and have &quot;known from  the start that Bendis was a hack&quot; and such. Really I don&#039;t care if you don&#039;t like the same things as me, but there&#039;s a point compulsively reading stuff you hate stops being a &quot;hardcore fan&quot; and becomes emotionally masochistic. And there becomes a point when complaining about a story that happened over two years ago stops being &quot;voicing my opinion&quot; and becomes really really irritating ramblings from people I can only imagine are emotionally disturbed.
Yes, I become slightly upset when a writer I don&#039;t like starts a book that I previously enjoyed, but why is it so much harder for them to move on than it is for me? I read these comics because I enjoy them and want to feel happy and content for a bit while I relax. So why does it seem like reading comics becomes such a chore for so many people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I never go on the forums anymore and mainly just stick to CSBG and Robot 6. I'll read something (let's say New Avengers) and think "Oh wow that was a neat reveal at the end, I want to talk to someone about it"  and head to the forums (because I'm the only comic fan in my group of friends). What do I see? Comments about how Bendis isn't an REAL Avenger fan, Bendis should be unemployed, Bendis should undergo bodily harm, etc.<br />
A lot of them from people that have claimed to be reading his Avengers since the beginning and have "known from  the start that Bendis was a hack" and such. Really I don't care if you don't like the same things as me, but there's a point compulsively reading stuff you hate stops being a "hardcore fan" and becomes emotionally masochistic. And there becomes a point when complaining about a story that happened over two years ago stops being "voicing my opinion" and becomes really really irritating ramblings from people I can only imagine are emotionally disturbed.<br />
Yes, I become slightly upset when a writer I don't like starts a book that I previously enjoyed, but why is it so much harder for them to move on than it is for me? I read these comics because I enjoy them and want to feel happy and content for a bit while I relax. So why does it seem like reading comics becomes such a chore for so many people?</p>
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		<title>By: Bright-Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bright-Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Greg, comics is pretty much the only field where fans can get professionally involved in the business.

Oh sure, there&#039;s been a few examples of &quot;fans&quot; becoming members for their favorite rock band - but even then you&#039;re often talking about established musicians who were members of other bands and managed to be picked up. I can&#039;t think of anyone who was a flat out nobody and had no experience whatsoever who broke in that way. 

And mere &quot;fans&quot; don&#039;t get picked up to write for their favorite TV shows like LAW &amp; ORDER or CSI. 

Only in comics can a &quot;nobody&quot; like you or I someday become a &quot;star&quot; in that respect. Or so the myth persists, leastways.

And that&#039;s part of why fandom is so jaded towards the established talents. Many of them do feel they can do as well if not better than the established talents. Can they? That&#039;s not for me to say. I would venture to say it depends on whether they understand the true nature of comics production.

Writers have to depend on collaborations and compromise on all sorts of things, depending upon various outside factors. The artist may not have visualized the pacing of your script right so you have to go back and rewrite to make it suit the art. The editor may dump some arbitrary element in your lap and tell you you have to add it to your story to fit it into this month&#039;s crossover event, completely screwing your story up. You may get an edict passed down from corporate headquarters nixing your previously approved story idea that you were in the middle of writing due to political agendas, and now you have to start over and have less than a week to complete.

Same for the artist. You might find yourself in the middle of drawing a story and find out that the story had to be changed midway through and you have to go back to redo pages to suit the new version. You may have to change styles to suit the other half of your art tandem (some inkers just flat out aren&#039;t suited to certain pencilers and vice versa). 

And in order to help prevent that sort of thing from coming up, you have to coordinate and collaborate with additional creative teams, meaning a lot of the time you&#039;re going to have to compromise your ideas to come to an agreeable position for everyone involved. 

A lot of would be creators could never handle that kind of pressure. And yes, all of that compromise does at times take it&#039;s toll on the quality of the final products. But that is the nature of the business, not a flaw of the creators themselves necessarily, and fans need to keep that in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Greg, comics is pretty much the only field where fans can get professionally involved in the business.</p>
<p>Oh sure, there's been a few examples of "fans" becoming members for their favorite rock band - but even then you're often talking about established musicians who were members of other bands and managed to be picked up. I can't think of anyone who was a flat out nobody and had no experience whatsoever who broke in that way. </p>
<p>And mere "fans" don't get picked up to write for their favorite TV shows like LAW &amp; ORDER or CSI. </p>
<p>Only in comics can a "nobody" like you or I someday become a "star" in that respect. Or so the myth persists, leastways.</p>
<p>And that's part of why fandom is so jaded towards the established talents. Many of them do feel they can do as well if not better than the established talents. Can they? That's not for me to say. I would venture to say it depends on whether they understand the true nature of comics production.</p>
<p>Writers have to depend on collaborations and compromise on all sorts of things, depending upon various outside factors. The artist may not have visualized the pacing of your script right so you have to go back and rewrite to make it suit the art. The editor may dump some arbitrary element in your lap and tell you you have to add it to your story to fit it into this month's crossover event, completely screwing your story up. You may get an edict passed down from corporate headquarters nixing your previously approved story idea that you were in the middle of writing due to political agendas, and now you have to start over and have less than a week to complete.</p>
<p>Same for the artist. You might find yourself in the middle of drawing a story and find out that the story had to be changed midway through and you have to go back to redo pages to suit the new version. You may have to change styles to suit the other half of your art tandem (some inkers just flat out aren't suited to certain pencilers and vice versa). </p>
<p>And in order to help prevent that sort of thing from coming up, you have to coordinate and collaborate with additional creative teams, meaning a lot of the time you're going to have to compromise your ideas to come to an agreeable position for everyone involved. </p>
<p>A lot of would be creators could never handle that kind of pressure. And yes, all of that compromise does at times take it's toll on the quality of the final products. But that is the nature of the business, not a flaw of the creators themselves necessarily, and fans need to keep that in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: gabesummers</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabesummers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slow day at work im reading all your colums haha i swaer im not stalking but very good points...very well said..


me? myself? i see it like this..sometimes life is not perfect..sometimes life dont go right or how you want it..thats life thats comics...like mrs.harriet would say you take the good you take the bad....so when lets say grant morrison makes xorn magento..then they make xorn some crazed drug adictt who thought he was magneto..i may not like it..but thats the way the world works..nothing ever goes perfect..and id rather have a few comics that irk me and get me passonite then every lil thing going perfectly for me as i go through the motions. it chalenges..it keeps us guessing and provides future writers with more stories.


i dont think im making sence now hahaha 
and i cant spell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slow day at work im reading all your colums haha i swaer im not stalking but very good points...very well said..</p>
<p>me? myself? i see it like this..sometimes life is not perfect..sometimes life dont go right or how you want it..thats life thats comics...like mrs.harriet would say you take the good you take the bad....so when lets say grant morrison makes xorn magento..then they make xorn some crazed drug adictt who thought he was magneto..i may not like it..but thats the way the world works..nothing ever goes perfect..and id rather have a few comics that irk me and get me passonite then every lil thing going perfectly for me as i go through the motions. it chalenges..it keeps us guessing and provides future writers with more stories.</p>
<p>i dont think im making sence now hahaha<br />
and i cant spell.</p>
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