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Breaking down “Event” comics, Part 2: Countdown to Infinite Crisis; or, why does Dan DiDio hate DC fans so much?
- by Greg Burgas
- in Comic Reviews
Tuesday, June 6th, 2006 at 10:12 AM EST
Updated: Tuesday, June 6th, 2006 at 1:07 PM EST
Let’s use those parts of our imagination that haven’t been ruined by video games and MTV, shall we? Let’s imagine a guy walking down the street, circa 2005. Just for fun, let’s call him Dagobert II and pretend he’s a Merovingian monarch. He meets an unscrupulous businessman - let’s call him Leo X - who wants to sell him something. Let’s listen in!
Leo X: Excuse me, Your Majesty, but I’d like to sell you something. Very cheap!
Dagobert II: Sure, what is it?
Leo X (opens bag): Check it out!
Dagobert II: C’est merde! (Well, he would have said that if he spoke French instead of late classical Latin, which was probably some weird proto-French/German amalgamation. But you get the idea.)
Leo X: Why yes, it is. A steaming pile of dog turds.
Dagobert II: But … but … but why would I buy this?
Leo X: It’s only one dollar!
Dagobert II: Oh. Well, then, sign me up! I’m sure the nobility in the country won’t assassinate me for unwisely spending the funds of the kingdom!
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Such was the response, sort of, at my local comic book store when Countdown to Infinite Crisis came out. I refused to buy it after my experience with issue #7 of Identity Crisis. “But … but … but … it’s only a dollar!” said the confused people who frequent the shoppe. “Even if it sucks, it’s only a dollar!” These are the kind of people who buy a big bag of dog shit if it was only a dollar, I imagine.
Are you that kind of person?
I read Countdown with much trepidation. I knew the particulars of the story - Ted Kord discovers something BIG is going on in the DCU involving every superhero known to man, and when he investigates, he discovers that Maxwell Lord is secretly building an army to control the superheroes. When Ted refuses to join him, Max shoots him in the head. Now that’s inspiring storytelling!
I wasn’t all that concerned with the death of Blue Beetle. Just like the death of Sue Dibny, I recognized - unlike, apparently, much of the comics blogaxy - that Sue and Ted were fictional characters, and therefore their deaths meant little to me. Similarly, the “villainification” of Maxwell Lord, despite tarnishing the reputation of people who proudly bear the middle name of Maxwell, didn’t matter to me - on a story level. I will try to show how both those events are somewhat stupid in context of the DCU, but on a purely storytelling level, they were okay. Because, let’s face it - the story is pretty simplistic. Whoever DC put in this situation would probably need to die, because the story sets it up so nicely. And the revelation of the villain would have to be a surprise, which means someone we hadn’t seen in forever in the DCU, or someone we would never expect to be a villain. So Maxwell Lord makes as much sense as anyone.
The story, however, is unlike Identity Crisis. At least with Identity Crisis it began somewhat well, and, as I argued, it’s a perfectly fine story as long as it doesn’t star DC characters. Countdown, however, starts poorly and goes downhill from there. In the first caption of the book (chronologically, at least, although it comes a few pages in), Ted Kord thinks, after meeting up with Barbara Gordon, “Oracle is one of the few that still gives me the time of day.” This self-pity in Ted’s narration is evident from page 1, but this gave me pause. Granted, it’s been a while since Blue Beetle was front and center in the DCU, but why on earth would everyone else ignore Ted? Did I miss something? I suppose I could have, but this struck me as odd. When I read the rest, I realized why the writers - Johns, Rucka, and Winick, henceforth referred to as the single entity JoRucknick - did this. I’ll get to it.
Ted’s business is in trouble and he thinks something sinister is behind it. Other companies are also losing money, and then a Kord warehouse with 100 pounds of Kryptonite in it is broken into and the Kryptonite stolen. People try to kill him, he gets the brush-off from several heroes, and he finally discovers that Max and Checkmate are behind it all. Max gives him a chance to join them, and instead of doing something smart like saying okay and then working from within to stop Max, he says no, whereupon Max shoots him in the head. Then it’s on, bitches!
That’s a pretty thin story, but that’s okay, because Countdown to Infinite Crisis isn’t a story. It’s an advertisement. That’s right, people - everyone who bought this paid 1 dollar (and yes, it’s not a lot, I get it) to purchase advertising. That is what offends me the most about this “event.” It’s no different from DC releasing press releases to Newsarama telling everyone about the four spin-off mini-series. And those are free! Consider: Ted goes to Batman, who is more concerned with these weird OMAC things (even though the weird OMAC things are connected to Ted’s problem, so Batman shouldn’t have been such a dick). Ted is monitored by Lex Luthor, who has gathered a bunch of villains - you might even say he United the Villains. Ted tries to elicit J’onn’s help, but he is too engrossed with a War between Rann and Thanagar. And the wizard Shazam can’t help him because a Day is coming when the Spectre might seek Vengeance on magicians. Boy, all of those events sound important! I sure hope DC follows up on them - perhaps with mini-series of their own!
This is advertising with a twist - someone gets a bullet in the head at the end! I often feel that way at the end of the Superbowl, but this is a literal bullet to a literal head. And so, for the sake of DC wanting to advertise four series that everyone in the comics world would know about anyway, Ted Kord has to die. Sucks to be him, I guess.
As Countdown is not a story, it allows us to look at it other ways. The thing that makes this even more of a mess than Identity Crisis is, of course, the characters. In Meltzer’s story, the characters acted contrary to the way DC has shown them to act, but at least Meltzer attempted to justify why they acted that way. Whether or not he succeeded ultimately colors the way you feel about the book. Countdown, however, doesn’t have that luxury, and JoRucknick doesn’t even try to tell us why the characters are acting this way. Again, this comes back to a shared and old universe - writers are allowed a little wiggle room with their interpretations of the characters, certainly, but when they act completely opposite to how they have always been portrayed, there needs to be an explanation. Meltzer tried this and failed. JoRucknick doesn’t even try. And therein lies this book’s failure and its contempt for the very people it is trying to sell this book to. And believe me, despite Dan DiDio’s short text piece in the book (I’ll get to that), this book is full of contempt.
First, Ted Kord. Okay, granted, I don’t know much about the character. My exposure to him is almost completely through the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League. JoRucknick at least acknowledges that period, when Ted narrates that Sue “represented a better time for us. A time when we were allowed to laugh. Of course, sometimes I think Booster and I were the only ones laughing.” On the next page, we get a brief overview of that time in the League’s history. However, in their attempts to make Beetle pathetic, JoRucknick forgets that Beetle and Booster were not the only ones laughing. Ralph and Sue were always making jokes. Max, Oberon, and L-Ron were always making jokes - when they weren’t yelling at each other. Scott Free was always making jokes. Even though it devolved into slapstick and became weaker because of it, the fact that the characters could yell at each other and also make jokes with each humanized them greatly, and so although Beetle and Booster came up with the ridiculous schemes, they weren’t the “only ones laughing.” It’s a minor point but a crucial one, because JoRucknick has to make Beetle pathetic before he can make him heroic, but they miss the whole point of the Giffen/DeMatteis run, which is unfortunate.
The fact that JoRucknick has to make Ted pathetic means that they have to twist the way heroes interact in the DCU. Heroes fight each other all the time in comic books - it’s to be expected. However, very rarely do heroes treat other heroes with contempt (yes, that word again - this book is dripping with it). There’s always a certain amount of respect, however grudging it may be. Even in the humorous Justice League, the others knew that Guy could be counted on, and although they mocked him incessantly, they relied on him. So while JoRucknick is making Ted Kord pathetic, they’re making the other heroes in the DCU total dicks. Beetle might not be a topnotch hero, but despite Giffen and DeMatteis’ attempts to turn him into a loser, he was never completely one. His get-rich-quick schemes with Booster notwithstanding, there’s no reason for the heroes of the DCU to treat him this way - except for the fact that it’s the way Dan DiDio and JoRucknick want him to be treated. Characterization, in this book, is thrown out the window simply for the service of two things: the advertising, and the bullet in the head. Therefore, Batman is even more of a dick than usual. Now, I know that in recent years Batman has become all “dark and disturbing,” but his scene in Countdown is simply ridiculous. Ted makes a joke, of course, but then he mentions Waynetech, OMAC, and Dr. Light, and Batman boots him out of the cave. The worst thing about this is that Batman knows what the League did to him when they erased Dr. Light’s memories, and he also knows what OMAC is. So we can be reasonably certain that he’s investigating the same case Ted, and that he knows it. Instead of sharing with Ted, though, he brushes him off. This is a Batman who absolutely loathes Helena Bertinelli, but if he thinks he can use the Huntress on a case, he reluctantly does so. He’s known Ted a lot longer, and even if he remembers their days together with the League and thinks Ted is a goofball, one look at him now should be enough to convince him otherwise. This Batman is not only a dick, but JoRucknick commits maybe a worse sin - this Batman is stupid. There is no way Batman would let Ted leave without finding out everything he knows and possibly putting him to work on some aspect of it. Ted might be goofy, but one thing he’s never been, and Batman knows this, is dumb. By turning Batman into a dick, JoRucknick also turned him into an idiot. And that shit ain’t right.
When Ted’s warehouse is cleaned out, he calls in a bunch of heroes. They don’t find anything, and as they’re leaving, Dinah apologizes to Dr. Fate for wasting his time. Well, sure, I guess so - like they have anything better to do. However, someone obviously broke in to the warehouse - Dinah is crouching over an unconscious guard - and Ted tells Superman that the Kryptonite was stored there. I would think Superman would think that’s important, so where do second-rate heroes like Black Canary and Dr. Fate get off being so stand-offish? It’s just another example of JoRucknick making Ted more pathetic and making everyone else tools. Let’s not forget how immaturely Dinah behaved in those early issues of JLI, either. Superman, of course, is not a dick, and he listens to Ted. He doesn’t think it necessary to help him, but he listens to him. I wondered why Hal Jordan, who’s always seemed like kind of a dick to me, even back before he died, wasn’t acting like one - and then I remembered that one component of JoRucknick has a man-crush on Hal Jordan, and it all made sense. That’s just a small element of what’s wrong with this - creators allowing their personal favorites to escape dickness. There’s no reason for Hal to be nice and Dinah to be a dick unless Johns is in love with Hal. Which he is.
Ted, of course, makes a good point about Booster (and, obliquely, about himself). Both of them went toe-to-toe with Doomsday, even though Ted didn’t have any powers. Where was dickhead Batman when that shit went down? Then his house blows up. Then the Bug blows up. I assume all the heroes still think he’s nuts. The only one who cares - Diana! Why? Could it be that a different component of JoRucknick has a crush on her? Possibly. Diana, like Clark, doesn’t feel it’s actually necessary to help Ted - all these heroes have no respect for Beetle, but they obviously feel like he can handle whoever is blowing things up around him and stealing 100 pounds of Kryptonite. And then J’onn shows up in the book.
Of all the heroes in this book, J’onn might come off the worst, and it’s his portrayal that pisses me off the most and is also the most egregious. J’onn, we have been told countless times since the early 1980s, is the soul of the Justice League. He is a man who has lost everything he’s ever loved and can never regain it. He is a mythic tragic figure, and is therefore empathetic to an almost painful degree. He cared about losers like Vibe and Steel when they were in the League. He has a father-daughter relationship with another loser, Gypsy. He devised ways to make sure the Justice League embassies were always well-stocked with Oreos. And yet - he’s the biggest dick of all! Ted says he’s feeling better, so J’onn says, “Then you will be leaving” - not a question, as Ted points out. Ted tells him people are trying to kill him, to which J’onn replies, “People try to kill us all the time, Ted. It comes with the job.” Uh, yeah? So they shouldn’t try to find out who’s doing it? Then the communique from Adam Strange comes in, and J’onn ignores Beetle to learn that Thanagar is attacking Rann. He sends out a distress call to the active members of the Justice League, which does not include Ted. It would have been much cooler if Ted had said, “People try to kill Adam Strange all the time, J’onn. It comes with the job. So just tell him to fuck off.” But then this would be a Vertigo book! J’onn’s attitude makes no sense whatsoever. Even more than the portrayal of Batman, it goes against everything DC has ever - ever - told us about the character. JoRucknick could argue that maybe Batman was having a bad day. But for J’onn to be such a dick is unforgivable. Maybe if Vibe had come to him with the news, he would have listened. Yes, I know Scipio loves Vibe. But let’s face it - he’s a loser (well, and dead, but that wouldn’t stop DC!).
The revelation about Maxwell Lord is fine, if a bit misguided. Luthor has always been the one to want to control the superpeople, but if JoRucknick want to make Max that way, okay. I disagree with his statement about the League - “Why do you think I kept [it] ineffectual for years?” - they did save the world from Despero, after all - but that’s that, I guess. It doesn’t really make sense, even though JoRucknick tries to shoehorn it into the rest of Max’s character, but whatever. Max is just getting set up to have his neck snapped anyway.
Finally, we have DiDio’s text piece, which again shows his contempt for the audience. He talks about how he and JoRucknick were in a room talking about everything they loved about comics. Here’s what he loves: “high-octane action, bigger-than-life adventure, inconceivable [ed. - ???] villains, and the greatest heroes overcoming impossible odds.” Ex-squeeze me? Baking soda? Okay, this book has some high-octane action, I guess, and some adventure. I’m not sure what he means by inconceivable - not unlike Wallace Shawn in The Princess Bride, I’m not sure that word means what he thinks it means. Is it inconceivable that Maxwell Lord is a bad guy? Well, no - JoRucknick conceived it. I suppose he means “surprising,” but that’s not high-falutin’ enough. And correct me if I’m wrong, but even in the dark days of Batman, when the Joker was taking a crowbar to poor little Jason Todd’s face, we never actually saw brain matter. And although we know that once the sales on the new Blue Beetle book start to drop Ted will be magically resurrected, back in the day comic books didn’t exist solely to kill someone off. Did they? Maybe they did. Anyway, DiDio then goes on to pimp the very books that have been advertised in this comic. And then he announces Infinite Crisis, “the sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths, one the greatest [sic] comics stories ever told. Its changes will be far-reaching and its effects, everlasting. Promise.” Does anyone outside of Dan DiDio, even Marv Wolfman and George Perez, think Crisis was one of the greatest comics stories ever told? Just wondering. Anyway, DiDio goes on to say, “We at DC are committed to telling great stories, and if you like what you’ve seen so far, you’ll be happy to know it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Comics are a medium to be enjoyed by all. Remember, buy what you read [ed. - ???], and read what you love.” Well, if “by all” he means everbody over the age of 12, I suppose, but I certainly wouldn’t give my children Identity Crisis or this. “Daddy, why did the nice man’s head explode?” “Uh, because JoRucknick are pointing out that in the real world men dressed in costumes die horribly, dear. It’s educational!”
Sigh. I tried to be rational about this, but I let my emotions get away with me. Sorry. This is a perfect example of everything that’s wrong with comics. It’s rare you get it all in one book, but nice because comics scholars of the future, when comics are taught in universities and everyone realizes what a great art form they are, can simply assign this as an example of everything not to do in comics. By then, of course, it will be in the quarter bins, so you don’t even have to pay a dollar for a pile of dog shit. After Identity Crisis ended so poorly, I swore off the rest of DC’s big event. After reading this, I’m surprised anyone bought any of the other mini-series. I love superhero comics when they’re done well, but this is shockingly horrible on every level. It’s depressing to read and maddening to think about. Shit. Just … shit.
Abhay’s review is here, by the way. Very funny. A lot of the same points I make, but I swear I didn’t read it before I wrote this. Ian has links to a bunch of other reviews, so I won’t link to them individually. If you’re interested, head over there.
Next time: The Spectre declares war on magic in the DC Universe. Could the metaphor be more obvious?






20 Comments
Evan Waters
June 6, 2006 at 12:03 pm
The Giffen/De Matteis JLIers were sorta like the Bad News Bears of the superhero world. They were misfits, the underdogs, which is why we rooted for ‘em, and why it was cool when they did occasionally win. So they were kinda “losers” at times, and Ted’s always been the loveable geek, but I think in years since the run people kinda went overboard with that. Which is typical.
Max Lord’s weird character turn, on the other hand, I’ve officially written off as a Superboy-punching-time effect, just like him not being a cyborg anymore (which WAS specifically included as a time-fracture thingy in the IC Secret Files special.) Yeah, it’s a silly plot device in and of itself, but it’s silly in a nicer way.
Mike Loughlin
June 6, 2006 at 12:32 pm
I hate when characters are used to serve the plot. If they were so determined to have Max Lord kill Blue Beetle, why not have the other heroes acknowledge the threat, treat him respectfully, and then have Beetle out-snoop them all? Instead of Beetle hero-worshipping his colleagues, his internal monologue could reveal his pride in showing up the “better” detectives. The beginning and ending are the same, the story still sucks, but it would read better. They didn’t need to tear down so many characters, and have them act decidedly unheroically, in order to make their book of advertisements.
JR
June 6, 2006 at 2:16 pm
I can’t really comment on Identity Crisis much as I ended up dropping it at the 2nd issue. I did, however, buy this in a “I don’t wanna be the last kid on my block to read it” mindset, I cave to peer presure so easily *sobs*. What’s worse is that even though I passed on the following 4 lead-in minis I did end up buying Infinite Crisis for the exact same reason… I need an intervention. Though it did make me notice a pattern in Geoff Johns recent work which I’ll hold off on writing up until you get to that point.
The air of contempt is something that I’ve noticed building roughly since the heyday of Kyle Rayner but lately it seems to be turned up a few notches. It doesn’t seem like they’re even trying to hide it anymore. It appears that the constant fan cry of characters being made more “relatable” has resulted in them being written as either: (1) really stupid, (2) really pathetic, (3) really depressed, or (4)a combination of all the above. I guess somebody out there’s enjoying it, but I’ve never thought brain splattering was all that entertaining… unless Bugs Bunny was involved.
Paddy
June 6, 2006 at 2:33 pm
Your comments in this post and the one about Identity Crisis about how Characters are portrayed has got me thinking a bit.
I remember seeing somewhere I think on CBR about how DC plan to put together a bible for each of the characters. Since I’ve seen that I’ve been thinking to myself why haven’t they got one already.
Any here’s hoping it provides more than history of the character but also specific guidelines on how that character is supposed to act, react and what not.
You’ve talked about wiggle room in a both these articles but should the writer/artist have this wiggle room.
What Mike Loughlin said above about the story still sucking if the characters were done properly may not be true. If a writer/writers had to write the story so that they protrayed characters accurately then is it possible that the writer/writers will put enough thought into the story that it might actually be good?
Scipio
June 6, 2006 at 7:46 pm
EVERYONE loves Vibe.
Some people just can’t admit it.
Greg Burgas
June 6, 2006 at 7:56 pm
We might love him, meng, but he’s still a loser. Until he stars in that long-awaited movie!
The idea of a character Bible is interesting, Paddy. I still think writers and artists should have a little bit of leeway when it comes to writing, because that’s where true creativity flourishes and you get great stories, but it wouldn’t hurt to have a foundation of the character and general personality traits. It will probably never happen, but it’s an interesting idea.
Brett
June 7, 2006 at 5:40 am
DC is the company of Icons. Marvel is the company of Angst. Marvel doesn’t do Icons well, the closest they get is Captain America and he is all over the map on how he is portrayed.
DC tends to stink at doing angst. They seem to think lots of red blood and characters being relentless jerks is what works. The comics sell so maybe they are right, but I know they are sellig less to me.
I like both companies, but I like both when they do what they do best. Both Infinite Crisis and Identity Crisis read like DC trying to do Marvel, and doing it poorly.
moose n squirrel
June 7, 2006 at 7:11 am
DC is the company of Icons. Marvel is the company of Angst.
This statement is always rather blithely made as if it’s iron-clad fact, but the fact is that DC’s developed plenty of Marvel-style everyman characters (Firestorm, the Kate Spencer Manhunter, etc.) and Marvel has some of the most iconic and easily-recognized characters in the business (Spider-Man, the Hulk, Captain America). I think people are confusing “iconic” with either “angst-free” or “squeaky-clean,” which would give DC an advantage simply by dint of the fact that tons of its characters have Golden and Silver Age roots. But that’s really not what “iconic” means. The Hulk is about as iconic peoas you can get - he’s a combination of Jekyll and Hyde and Frankenstein, which are rooted in Manichaeism and the Prometheus myth for god’s sake - but he’s also about as angsty as it gets. And even Batman, one of DC’s Big Two icons, can angst with the best of them; Bruce Wayne gets agonizing callbacks to his tragic origin with a regularity that puts Spider-Man’s periodic wailing on the Brooklyn bridge to shame.
Decades of each company trying to imitate each other’s most popular qualities have blurred the line considerably between the companies’ styles, and the results have mostly made for some pretty good reading. Superman: Secret Identity is essentially Superman done in a realist Marvel style (”the world outside your window”), and it manages to also be one of the best portrayals of Superman as an icon in the last decade; Marvels made the Marvel Universe’s stable of everyman superheroes seem iconic and godlike simply by shifting our perspective to that of an actual everyman. The difference between “Marvel-style” and “DC-style” is more in readers’ minds than anything else.
T.
June 7, 2006 at 7:36 am
I would say that in DC’s quest to out-Marvel Marvel over the years, they’ve steadily started out-angsting Marvel since the late 70s. For some reason, though, you’re right, they do stink at it.
Tom Crippen
June 7, 2006 at 11:33 am
Oh no, I liked Countdown. Then again, I hadn’t read any other DC hero books since 1974 or so. Kind of tough to appreciate violations of context when you don’t know the context.
Since Countdown I’ve read Omac Project, and that was a trudge. But to me it marked a falling-off from a promising start, not more of the same.
John Seavey
June 8, 2006 at 5:04 am
I do think you’re being a bit unfair to Identity Crisis–Geoff Johns might claim that it was all part of a master plan, but Meltzer insists that it was meant to be a small, stand-alone JLA miniseries and that the whole OMAC/Eclipso/Society stuff was Johns and DiDio reading his scripts and getting some ideas from it. Whether you feel it was too angsty/mature for a JLA book is one thing, but I do think you need to divorce it from ‘Infinite Crisis’ to consider it fairly.
But Countdown to IC, well…yeah. You’ve pretty much hit the nail absolutely on the head here. This is the writers’ disdain for the Giffen-era JLA leaking like toxic waste into their stories–they also went ahead and whacked Rocket Red, too, not long afterwards, just in case anyone thought about liking him.
I just thank God my purchase of that book was tax-deductible.
Greg Burgas
June 8, 2006 at 8:50 am
John - I tried to consider Identity Crisis on its own merits, because I thought also that it was supposed to be a stand alone mini-series. I certainly don’t blame Meltzer at all for what JoRucknick ran with out of it. I blame Meltzer because the resolution didn’t live up to the set-up.
John Seavey
June 9, 2006 at 3:56 am
And that’s fair enough (although we might quibble a bit on it–I thought there was a lot to recommend it, even if I didn’t disagree with many of your criticisms.) I just, well…I feel sorry for Brad Meltzer that everyone who reads ‘Identity Crisis’ from now on is going to assume that he intended Batman’s reaction to finding out about all this was “I’ll create an army of killer robots ! Yeah! That’s the best idea I’ve ever had!” Might have made me read a bit more into your comments than you put there.
(And how exactly did Batman make the Brother Eye system? Did he whip it up in the Batcave between fights with the Joker? And send it up into orbit at night, when nobody was watching?)
T.
June 12, 2006 at 3:55 am
I agree with the negatives, disagree with the premise that Identity Crisis started out good. It reeked of poo from the beginning in my opinion. Soon as I saw Ralph Dibny out on a sting operation talking about his wife to his partner, on the eve of their anniversary or something, while we see her getting killed at the same time, then he goes there and finds a positive pregnancy test lying near her body….CORNY CLICHE CITY. It’s about as bad as Man Apart or some 80s Stallone revenge flick.
moose n squirrel
June 12, 2006 at 6:27 am
Agreed, T. The only thing missing was Sue’s speech about how she was “just three days from retirement.”
T.
June 12, 2006 at 10:19 am
Oh lordie, moose, i almost spit my coffee.
that should be a separate post…”what other cliches could you have piled onto the 1st 2 issues of Identity Crisis?”
Maybe a dark secret from Ralph’s past that comes out to haunt…oh wait, Meltzer did that too.
I guess Batman could have called Ralph a loose cannon and ordered him to turn in his badge.
MacQuarrie
June 12, 2006 at 6:27 pm
I think the fundamental problem is beyond all that. All fo this bad writing and out-of-character behavior is rooted in a single fundamental problem: the shared universe.
Back in the ’80s, it occasionally happened that TV shows on NBC referenced each other; the doctors from St. Elsewhere wandered into the Cheers bar, Detective Munch moved from Homicide to Law & Order, Third Watch and ER did a crossover, etc and so on. Imagine for a moment that NBC decided to follow up on that little trend by doing a lot more of it, eventually mandating that ALL of their shows take place in the same universe. All of them; My Name is Earl, Days of Our Lives, Saturday Night Live, Scrubs, ER, Crossing Jordan, Deal or No Deal, The Office, the Apprentice, West Wing, Last Comic Standing, all of them.
Suppose it got to the point that if Earl showed up in ER’s lobby, the producers had to make sure he was injured and taken to Chicago’s hospital in that week’s episode.
What happens now? First, all shows are locked into a rigid sequence of episodes; they can’t be re-run in random order anymore. Second, anyone who likes a given show has to watch or at least be aware of every single show on the schedule lest they miss some important point about their favorite show. Suppose the big season-ending surprise about ER actually appeared on that night’s Conan O’Brien show? Fourth, there would be an enforced homogeniety to all the shows; the tome would have to be modified so that the earthy detectives on Law & Order could believably move within the silly world of Scrubs. The uniqueness of each show would be destroyed for the sake of continuity. Fifth, the setup would alienate older fans of the shows and deter new viewers from getting into the shows. NBC would shrivel up and die.
The only way to “save” comics is to kill the shared universe. Characters should cross over in much the way they did on Cheers and ER and the White Shadow; incidentally and without anybody worrying about how well the plotlines matched up that week. Each character should exist in its own self-contained universe as much as possible, and crossover information limited to crossover books such as JLA.
As long as the publishers insist on this idiotic state of affairs (which does not exist in any other entertaiment media; do all of Universal’s movies exist in the same universe, or all of Acclaim’s videogames share a world?), there will be editorially-mandated manglings of logic, character and plot.
Get to the root of the problem. Infinite Crisis is a tumor caused by the cancer of shared universes. It’s a cancer that grows by destroying the fun.
Austin
June 13, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Except, the concept of a shared universe (which is pointed out to be fairly unique to comics) is exactly one of the reasons comics are unique and that I enjoy them. You can’t find a shared universe elsewhere. I wish TV shows with shared characters worked to line up those plot lines. The concept of a shared universe isn’t the problem with comics, its one of many things that make comics enjoyable in the first place.
MacQuarrie
June 16, 2006 at 12:27 am
But there ought to be a limit to it. Captain Marvel should never have been dragged into the mainstream DC universe. If DC did not insist on everything being in the same universe, things like Captain Carrot and Angel & the Ape could be allowed to live, and things like Stanley’s Monster need not be subjected to the abuse he was subjected to in Green Arrow. The Giffen JLA could have a place in a semi-disconnected universe. It doesn’t have to all fit together all the time.
For that matter, Batman works better in a world that does not include magic-powered Amazons from hidden islands or time-travelling con-men superheroing for the ego-boo. The conceits built into the Batman franchise are incompatible with the conceits built into other DC comics, and only by ignoring or altering them can the characters be made compatible.
But no. Captain Marvel has to be revamped and made “serious” so that he can fit into a world in which he does not belong. He’s more out of place in the DC universe than Howard the Duck is in the Marvel one.
But I guess the concept of the shared universe is so cool and fun that it’s worth warping or eliminating characters in order to incorporate them. Contrived compromise is preferable to artistic integrity, as long as the result is that we get to see bowdlerized versions of our favorite characters interacting with each other. Got it.
DanLarkin
June 16, 2006 at 5:53 am
Mac said: “or that matter, Batman works better in a world that does not include magic-powered Amazons from hidden islands or time-travelling con-men superheroing for the ego-boo. The conceits built into the Batman franchise are incompatible with the conceits built into other DC comics, and only by ignoring or altering them can the characters be made compatible.”
Which is true. Except for when it isn’t. There’s plenty of Batman fun that comes from him interacting with demons, amazons, martians, and doomsday devices. The Batman of Year One can also have a Sci-Fi closet, and it seems to me that the character, and the fans are all the better for that. The biggest detriment to Batman over the past several years has been the Denny O’Neil-style Batamentalism that says Batman is ONLY this way.
The shared universe concept isn’t the problem. The problem is editorial assuming that because characters exist in the same universe that their adventures all have to have the same tone and attitude. Captain Marvel can work just fine in the DCU, if he’s written well. A universe is a pretty big place. Plastic Man doesn’t have to be a gritty urban vigilante because he and Batman live in the same universe.