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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Rohan, but in the reflection of the snow globe, we see someone (the maid? the butler?) enter after Kane is already dead!  The butler SAYS he heard Kane&#039;s final word, but there&#039;s nobody in the room when Kane says it.  Of course, that&#039;s without having looked at it again.  Now I&#039;ll have to go back and check.

Go to know that Flash is showing up these days.  I loved it when Peter had a big cast, especially when a writer knew how to make it work.  Before I stopped reading JMS&#039; Spider-Man, I was struck by how small Peter&#039;s world seemed, even when he went to work at the high school.  I kept thinking, &quot;Doesn&#039;t he have any friends?&quot;

And Matthew, I think DC has gone too far to the other extreme, where their sense of history is too obsessive so that it interferes with the story.  I don&#039;t mind the continuity-heavy story every so often, but, as I mentioned, Infinite Crisis was a mess because, it seemed, they tried to fit everything into it.  But that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Rohan, but in the reflection of the snow globe, we see someone (the maid? the butler?) enter after Kane is already dead!  The butler SAYS he heard Kane&#8217;s final word, but there&#8217;s nobody in the room when Kane says it.  Of course, that&#8217;s without having looked at it again.  Now I&#8217;ll have to go back and check.</p>
<p>Go to know that Flash is showing up these days.  I loved it when Peter had a big cast, especially when a writer knew how to make it work.  Before I stopped reading JMS&#8217; Spider-Man, I was struck by how small Peter&#8217;s world seemed, even when he went to work at the high school.  I kept thinking, &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t he have any friends?&#8221;</p>
<p>And Matthew, I think DC has gone too far to the other extreme, where their sense of history is too obsessive so that it interferes with the story.  I don&#8217;t mind the continuity-heavy story every so often, but, as I mentioned, Infinite Crisis was a mess because, it seemed, they tried to fit everything into it.  But that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, incidentally, now that I&#039;ve responded to the Kane thing... how cool was it that Simonson&#039;s Fantastic Four got around in a time-travelling sled called &#039;Rosebud II&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, incidentally, now that I&#8217;ve responded to the Kane thing&#8230; how cool was it that Simonson&#8217;s Fantastic Four got around in a time-travelling sled called &#8216;Rosebud II&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Greg, I&#039;m pretty sure someone did hear Kane&#039;s final word. It was the butler-type guy that our man talks to at Xanadu, for memory. 

I think the whole &quot;noone hears the final word&quot; thing is a quasi-urban legend that built up because a guy who was under that impression asked Welles about it one time, and Welles forgot for a second that the guy was wrong, and said to him, &quot;... and let us never speak of it again&quot;. 

Which is the awesome answer that should be given to just about any continuity blunder, really.

You&#039;ve got me wanting to watch Kane for about the trillionth time to check now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Greg, I&#8217;m pretty sure someone did hear Kane&#8217;s final word. It was the butler-type guy that our man talks to at Xanadu, for memory. </p>
<p>I think the whole &#8220;noone hears the final word&#8221; thing is a quasi-urban legend that built up because a guy who was under that impression asked Welles about it one time, and Welles forgot for a second that the guy was wrong, and said to him, &#8220;&#8230; and let us never speak of it again&#8221;. </p>
<p>Which is the awesome answer that should be given to just about any continuity blunder, really.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got me wanting to watch Kane for about the trillionth time to check now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Flash Thompson could show up and say hi to Peter Parker.&quot;

Flash has actually been back in Peter&#039;s life for the last few months in the pages of &lt;i&gt;Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man&lt;/i&gt;. He&#039;s a gym teacher at Peter&#039;s school, but has amnesia, and so he still thinks of Peter as &quot;Puny&quot; Parker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Flash Thompson could show up and say hi to Peter Parker.&#8221;</p>
<p>Flash has actually been back in Peter&#8217;s life for the last few months in the pages of <i>Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man</i>. He&#8217;s a gym teacher at Peter&#8217;s school, but has amnesia, and so he still thinks of Peter as &#8220;Puny&#8221; Parker.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a continuity nut. I get hung up over the removal of little panels or a small detail, or whatever, unless there is a good enough explination for it. And usually, retcons translate to bad stories. USUALLY.

I think continuity is a good thing. I love the idea of a past history. I love superheroes interacting with one another and making it meanwhile. I love the universal resets and the idea of a malleable reality. But that&#039;s just me.

I&#039;m not sure what you mean about DC losing its sense of history though...Marvel yes, DC, not really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a continuity nut. I get hung up over the removal of little panels or a small detail, or whatever, unless there is a good enough explination for it. And usually, retcons translate to bad stories. USUALLY.</p>
<p>I think continuity is a good thing. I love the idea of a past history. I love superheroes interacting with one another and making it meanwhile. I love the universal resets and the idea of a malleable reality. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean about DC losing its sense of history though&#8230;Marvel yes, DC, not really.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only did Jean coerce Scott into being with Emma, Emma coerced Scott into being with Emma. This is another example of something that Morrison set up for the next writer that just got abandoned, and as you exemplify, made things more confusing by not being used.

Notice the fact that Scott still hasn&#039;t done any mourning, or even considered that this might feel wrong in some way. That has to do with other writers dropping the ball and not dealing with the obvious conclusion, where Scott gets pissed and leaves the X-Men for good. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only did Jean coerce Scott into being with Emma, Emma coerced Scott into being with Emma. This is another example of something that Morrison set up for the next writer that just got abandoned, and as you exemplify, made things more confusing by not being used.</p>
<p>Notice the fact that Scott still hasn&#8217;t done any mourning, or even considered that this might feel wrong in some way. That has to do with other writers dropping the ball and not dealing with the obvious conclusion, where Scott gets pissed and leaves the X-Men for good. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ryan H said â€¦


I am sure that I am going to be shot down for this by the real comic book readers (I am a dabbler at best)... &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Ryan, we&#039;re all dabblers. Carrying on about comics like we do here, it&#039;s SUPPOSED to be recreational. If it isn&#039;t, than we&#039;re not doing it right. You never need to apologize just for HAVING an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Ryan H said â€¦</p>
<p>I am sure that I am going to be shot down for this by the real comic book readers (I am a dabbler at best)&#8230; </b></i></p>
<p>Ryan, we&#8217;re all dabblers. Carrying on about comics like we do here, it&#8217;s SUPPOSED to be recreational. If it isn&#8217;t, than we&#8217;re not doing it right. You never need to apologize just for HAVING an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Seitz is the third or fourth guy to do it. My personal favorite is Loren Estleman&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Adventure of the Sanguinary Count,&lt;/i&gt; but I am also quite fond of Fred Saberhagen&#039;s &lt;I&gt;The Holmes/Dracula File.&lt;/i&gt; I think it was done in comics, too, in the early 80&#039;s, from one of the black-and-white outfits. Holmes-Dracula is well-trodden ground at this point, it&#039;s almost as common as Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper; that&#039;s the pastiche that EVERYONE tries. 

I don&#039;t know about the rest of it. I&#039;m mostly of the opinion that it&#039;s time for the pendulum to swing back the other way, that &quot;continuity&quot; as we talk about it in comics is really out of control at this point. I still think JLA #1 was pretty damn unfriendly to new readers but I had nine or ten people telling me in comments that it wasn&#039;t THAT bad, and they clearly regarded it as similar to your &lt;i&gt;Excalibur&lt;/i&gt; experience.

So who knows? The REAL problem, which is what I probably should have explained better last week, is that Marvel and DC are betting the farm on guys like us now who ALREADY KNOW THINGS, instead of trying to go in a different direction and after different markets with their main characters. There&#039;s no INTRODUCTORY mechanism in any of these books... for characters that are routinely creating interest for new readers through movies and TV. That&#039;s frankly idiotic. And &lt;i&gt;everyone in comics knows it but rather than step aside for a newer generation we insist it all be for us.&lt;/i&gt; Fans always are like that, they were when Excalibur came out; but that goes beyond idiocy into some kind of a death wish when it is coming from publishers too. 

I do have a test &quot;new reader,&quot; actually: my wife Julie is not up on superhero continuity  AT ALL, and I can hand her something like &lt;i&gt;Rebirth&lt;/i&gt; and say, &quot;Do me a favor and see if this makes sense to you, if it actually is a story you can follow.&quot; She&#039;ll struggle through it but later she&#039;ll say that it seemed way too wordy for a comic, or something like that. Sometimes she&#039;ll add a rider like, &quot;Gee, the Justice League sure aren&#039;t acting very nice, I thought they were the good guys. And why is everyone clenching their teeth?&quot; I keep telling her she should really sit down and write some of these first-impression, outside-looking-in things down, it&#039;d be a nice guest column. But she is too shy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Seitz is the third or fourth guy to do it. My personal favorite is Loren Estleman&#8217;s <i>The Adventure of the Sanguinary Count,</i> but I am also quite fond of Fred Saberhagen&#8217;s <i>The Holmes/Dracula File.</i> I think it was done in comics, too, in the early 80&#8242;s, from one of the black-and-white outfits. Holmes-Dracula is well-trodden ground at this point, it&#8217;s almost as common as Holmes vs. Jack the Ripper; that&#8217;s the pastiche that EVERYONE tries. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of it. I&#8217;m mostly of the opinion that it&#8217;s time for the pendulum to swing back the other way, that &#8220;continuity&#8221; as we talk about it in comics is really out of control at this point. I still think JLA #1 was pretty damn unfriendly to new readers but I had nine or ten people telling me in comments that it wasn&#8217;t THAT bad, and they clearly regarded it as similar to your <i>Excalibur</i> experience.</p>
<p>So who knows? The REAL problem, which is what I probably should have explained better last week, is that Marvel and DC are betting the farm on guys like us now who ALREADY KNOW THINGS, instead of trying to go in a different direction and after different markets with their main characters. There&#8217;s no INTRODUCTORY mechanism in any of these books&#8230; for characters that are routinely creating interest for new readers through movies and TV. That&#8217;s frankly idiotic. And <i>everyone in comics knows it but rather than step aside for a newer generation we insist it all be for us.</i> Fans always are like that, they were when Excalibur came out; but that goes beyond idiocy into some kind of a death wish when it is coming from publishers too. </p>
<p>I do have a test &#8220;new reader,&#8221; actually: my wife Julie is not up on superhero continuity  AT ALL, and I can hand her something like <i>Rebirth</i> and say, &#8220;Do me a favor and see if this makes sense to you, if it actually is a story you can follow.&#8221; She&#8217;ll struggle through it but later she&#8217;ll say that it seemed way too wordy for a comic, or something like that. Sometimes she&#8217;ll add a rider like, &#8220;Gee, the Justice League sure aren&#8217;t acting very nice, I thought they were the good guys. And why is everyone clenching their teeth?&#8221; I keep telling her she should really sit down and write some of these first-impression, outside-looking-in things down, it&#8217;d be a nice guest column. But she is too shy.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop picking on Stephen, Moose!  The whole pastiche thing with old characters has become more of a trendy thing these days - didn&#039;t Sherlock meet Jack the Ripper in a movie or book somewhere? - and I, for one, enjoy it.  I am NOT one of those people who bashes it, if it&#039;s done well.  Sherlock Holmes meeting Dracula sounds interesting - we&#039;ll have to see how the execution is!

Jordan, I don&#039;t remember Jean screwing with his head.  I remember her telling him to be happy, but I wasn&#039;t sure how much she messed with him.  I suppose the whole thing makes me grumpy because I still don&#039;t like the fact that Scott &quot;cheated&quot; and I don&#039;t like Emma as a good guy (and I assume someone can let me know if she still is, as I don&#039;t read Astonishing X-Men).  Morrison did an okay job of trying to explain it, but it felt like he just loved Emma so much that he was jamming her into the story without really thinking about it.  In other words, I didn&#039;t buy his explanations, and felt he could have done a better job on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop picking on Stephen, Moose!  The whole pastiche thing with old characters has become more of a trendy thing these days &#8211; didn&#8217;t Sherlock meet Jack the Ripper in a movie or book somewhere? &#8211; and I, for one, enjoy it.  I am NOT one of those people who bashes it, if it&#8217;s done well.  Sherlock Holmes meeting Dracula sounds interesting &#8211; we&#8217;ll have to see how the execution is!</p>
<p>Jordan, I don&#8217;t remember Jean screwing with his head.  I remember her telling him to be happy, but I wasn&#8217;t sure how much she messed with him.  I suppose the whole thing makes me grumpy because I still don&#8217;t like the fact that Scott &#8220;cheated&#8221; and I don&#8217;t like Emma as a good guy (and I assume someone can let me know if she still is, as I don&#8217;t read Astonishing X-Men).  Morrison did an okay job of trying to explain it, but it felt like he just loved Emma so much that he was jamming her into the story without really thinking about it.  In other words, I didn&#8217;t buy his explanations, and felt he could have done a better job on it.</p>
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		<title>By: moose n squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>moose n squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Stephen Seitz was doing some entertaining satire of your post (and of the &quot;shared universe&quot; mania that&#039;s made so much of the superhero genre unreadable) until I saw the URL and realized he was serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Stephen Seitz was doing some entertaining satire of your post (and of the &#8220;shared universe&#8221; mania that&#8217;s made so much of the superhero genre unreadable) until I saw the URL and realized he was serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Galdieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Galdieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That paplable sense of &quot;people with history getting back together&quot; was one of the things that was so great about the Formerly Known as the Justice League mini-series and its followup in JLA Classified, from the expressions on the team&#039;s faces on the first issue&#039;s cover to Power Girl and the Blue Beetle talking about the old days.  I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again: There was far more emotional and character realism in those series than there&#039;s been in however many years of Johnuckannikzer snuff comics we&#039;ve gotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That paplable sense of &#8220;people with history getting back together&#8221; was one of the things that was so great about the Formerly Known as the Justice League mini-series and its followup in JLA Classified, from the expressions on the team&#8217;s faces on the first issue&#8217;s cover to Power Girl and the Blue Beetle talking about the old days.  I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again: There was far more emotional and character realism in those series than there&#8217;s been in however many years of Johnuckannikzer snuff comics we&#8217;ve gotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Seitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Seitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Greg,

     I am betting that a lot of people would like to see Sherlock Holmes show up in Dracula. I have a novel coming out next month which does exactly that. In &quot;Sherlock Holmes and the Plague of Dracula&quot; I fit the events and characters of &quot;Dracula&quot; into the Holmes universe, and I stay strictly within Sherlockian continuity to the best of my ability. I also explain what really happened at the Reichenbach Falls, what Holmes was really doing during the Great Hiatus, and even delve into the true nature of vampirism. I have been told that one particularly hard to please critic liked it a lot, so I am hopeful the general readership will, too.

     I well understand how you can be of two minds regarding continuity. The last time I read &quot;X-Men&quot; it had been a while since I picked the book up and they were drowning so much in old continuity I just couldn&#039;t follow what was going on. However, I will probably skip the next &quot;Star Trek&quot; movie if they try to get away with Kirk and Spock being fellow students at Starfleet Academy: it just didn&#039;t happen. Spock is about 15 years older than Kirk and they first met when Kirk was given command of the Enterprise. In this case, the issue is more than continuity. It&#039;s history.

     In my own book, whenever a small point of continuity in the Holmes canon or in &quot;Dracula&quot; got in the way, I did what I felt was best for the story. In the end, I think you&#039;re right: if the story is good enough, then old continuity points can safely be laid aside. 

     Here&#039;s the link if you want to learn more about my book:

     http://www.mountainsidepress.com/mystery.html

     --Steve Seitz
       Springfield, Vt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Greg,</p>
<p>     I am betting that a lot of people would like to see Sherlock Holmes show up in Dracula. I have a novel coming out next month which does exactly that. In &#8220;Sherlock Holmes and the Plague of Dracula&#8221; I fit the events and characters of &#8220;Dracula&#8221; into the Holmes universe, and I stay strictly within Sherlockian continuity to the best of my ability. I also explain what really happened at the Reichenbach Falls, what Holmes was really doing during the Great Hiatus, and even delve into the true nature of vampirism. I have been told that one particularly hard to please critic liked it a lot, so I am hopeful the general readership will, too.</p>
<p>     I well understand how you can be of two minds regarding continuity. The last time I read &#8220;X-Men&#8221; it had been a while since I picked the book up and they were drowning so much in old continuity I just couldn&#8217;t follow what was going on. However, I will probably skip the next &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; movie if they try to get away with Kirk and Spock being fellow students at Starfleet Academy: it just didn&#8217;t happen. Spock is about 15 years older than Kirk and they first met when Kirk was given command of the Enterprise. In this case, the issue is more than continuity. It&#8217;s history.</p>
<p>     In my own book, whenever a small point of continuity in the Holmes canon or in &#8220;Dracula&#8221; got in the way, I did what I felt was best for the story. In the end, I think you&#8217;re right: if the story is good enough, then old continuity points can safely be laid aside. </p>
<p>     Here&#8217;s the link if you want to learn more about my book:</p>
<p>     <a href="http://www.mountainsidepress.com/mystery.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mountainsidepress.com/mystery.html</a></p>
<p>     &#8211;Steve Seitz<br />
       Springfield, Vt.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan D. White</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/15/taking-a-sentimental-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-7615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan D. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you for the most part.  I loved Excalibur from it&#039;s start until Davis left for good (after that, it has it&#039;s moments, but it&#039;s just not the same).  That era of X-Men was pretty tight, and cohesive, they obviously thought about things and coordinated to some extent.

However, I am not with you on the Scott/Emma front.  I thought Morrison did a really good job on this front.  Scott didn&#039;t jump into bed with Emma after Jean died.  He abandoned her, to mourne for his true love, Jean.  He regretted cheating, and would have left Emma forever.  Jean made him go back with her.  She screwed with his head.  He would not have done it on his own.  The other characters even bitched about how he&#039;d jumped in bed with her so quickly, so it was even acknowledged in-comic how that was out of his character.  Because Jean made him do it.  The cheating was all him, but the decision to stay with Emma was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you for the most part.  I loved Excalibur from it&#8217;s start until Davis left for good (after that, it has it&#8217;s moments, but it&#8217;s just not the same).  That era of X-Men was pretty tight, and cohesive, they obviously thought about things and coordinated to some extent.</p>
<p>However, I am not with you on the Scott/Emma front.  I thought Morrison did a really good job on this front.  Scott didn&#8217;t jump into bed with Emma after Jean died.  He abandoned her, to mourne for his true love, Jean.  He regretted cheating, and would have left Emma forever.  Jean made him go back with her.  She screwed with his head.  He would not have done it on his own.  The other characters even bitched about how he&#8217;d jumped in bed with her so quickly, so it was even acknowledged in-comic how that was out of his character.  Because Jean made him do it.  The cheating was all him, but the decision to stay with Emma was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/15/taking-a-sentimental-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-7614</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Ryan, that&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m talking about.  The Ultimate line is still small enough that the writers can do that sort of thing, but there&#039;s no reason it can&#039;t be done in the &quot;real&quot; Marvel U.  It&#039;s just that the writers and editors are lazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Ryan, that&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m talking about.  The Ultimate line is still small enough that the writers can do that sort of thing, but there&#8217;s no reason it can&#8217;t be done in the &#8220;real&#8221; Marvel U.  It&#8217;s just that the writers and editors are lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan H</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/15/taking-a-sentimental-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-7613</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure that I am going to be shot down for this by the real comic book readers (I am a dabbler at best), but this is one reason I have really enjoyed the Ultimate line.  Every once in a while you see an off-hand comment made or a small detail that refers to things going on or long past in the other books.  The way that the charters interact with each other tends to reflect world events as well as other known relationships.

An example might be in the current Ultimate Spider-Man storyline where the Fantastic Four are making a minor gust appearance.  When Reed Richards decides to call Nick Fury with a problem, not only does the dialog and setup reflect Peter&#039;s shaky relationship with SHIELD (as it should, it&#039;s his book after all) but it also reflects Reed&#039;s relationship with Fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that I am going to be shot down for this by the real comic book readers (I am a dabbler at best), but this is one reason I have really enjoyed the Ultimate line.  Every once in a while you see an off-hand comment made or a small detail that refers to things going on or long past in the other books.  The way that the charters interact with each other tends to reflect world events as well as other known relationships.</p>
<p>An example might be in the current Ultimate Spider-Man storyline where the Fantastic Four are making a minor gust appearance.  When Reed Richards decides to call Nick Fury with a problem, not only does the dialog and setup reflect Peter&#8217;s shaky relationship with SHIELD (as it should, it&#8217;s his book after all) but it also reflects Reed&#8217;s relationship with Fury.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/15/taking-a-sentimental-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-7610</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear.</p>
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