Comments on: Into the back issue box #1! http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:50:19 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: acespot http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7815 acespot Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:00:52 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7815 Paul, You're probably having a hard time because a lot of the books you pick up either have shitty writing or shitty art. That happens with comics as in any other medium. It's just that with comics you have the advantage of sometimes being able to get shitty writing AND shitty art! Take Bachalo's work for example. Does he even have any clue as to what the fuck he's drawing? Visit my blog for tips on what to read and, conversely, what NOT to read. <a href="http://acespot1.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Spot's World</a> Paul,
You're probably having a hard time because a lot of the books you pick up either have shitty writing or shitty art. That happens with comics as in any other medium. It's just that with comics you have the advantage of sometimes being able to get shitty writing AND shitty art! Take Bachalo's work for example. Does he even have any clue as to what the fuck he's drawing? Visit my blog for tips on what to read and, conversely, what NOT to read.
Spot's World

]]> By: Paul http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7798 Paul Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:45:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7798 I read the manifesto as well and I believe it to be really true. I'm a part time comic book fan as I only casually read the books and mostly stick to the trade collections. Sometimes its daunting just trying to figure out just what the hell is going on in series that I occasionally pick up. I get angry when I pick up an issue that's right in the middle of a big story arc and there's no resolution at all. I just bought the first 2 Batman/Superman trades and I let my roomate read them. Now, he's into comics too but more into the Transormers GI joe kind of stuf. Anyway, he's got to keep asking me questions like, "why is Steel a chick?" "Who's this Major Force guy?" "Why is there a dark haired supergirl?" "Why are there two Flashes?" etc. The only way I could answer these questions is that I have the DC Encylopedia. Also: On learing how to "read" comics, I'll admit, sometimes I get lost on large spreads where the panels are arranged all funky like. I feel dumb, but I'll be like, what the hell panel do I read next? I read the manifesto as well and I believe it to be really true. I'm a part time comic book fan as I only casually read the books and mostly stick to the trade collections. Sometimes its daunting just trying to figure out just what the hell is going on in series that I occasionally pick up. I get angry when I pick up an issue that's right in the middle of a big story arc and there's no resolution at all.

I just bought the first 2 Batman/Superman trades and I let my roomate read them. Now, he's into comics too but more into the Transormers GI joe kind of stuf. Anyway, he's got to keep asking me questions like, "why is Steel a chick?" "Who's this Major Force guy?" "Why is there a dark haired supergirl?" "Why are there two Flashes?" etc. The only way I could answer these questions is that I have the DC Encylopedia.

Also: On learing how to "read" comics, I'll admit, sometimes I get lost on large spreads where the panels are arranged all funky like. I feel dumb, but I'll be like, what the hell panel do I read next?

]]> By: Greg Burgas http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7796 Greg Burgas Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:41:00 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7796 O - my experience with Aparo has pretty much been with his late-1980s stuff - this issue might be the earliest Aparo work I own! So I can't say I saw him in the 1970s, when I know people say he was dynamite. I don't dislike his work, it just doesn't do a lot for me. As for storytelling, yes, he's very good at that aspect of the art. And John, you're right - manifestos should leave no room for argument! And they should be delivered with much fist-pounding on lecturns and such. O - my experience with Aparo has pretty much been with his late-1980s stuff - this issue might be the earliest Aparo work I own! So I can't say I saw him in the 1970s, when I know people say he was dynamite. I don't dislike his work, it just doesn't do a lot for me. As for storytelling, yes, he's very good at that aspect of the art.

And John, you're right - manifestos should leave no room for argument! And they should be delivered with much fist-pounding on lecturns and such.

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7777 John Seavey Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:54:02 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7777 I'd just like to point out that I don't agree totally with my Punk Comics Manifesto either, but I think there's no sense in being wishy-washy when you issue a manifesto. :) I expected people to tune out parts of the message as they conflict with their own writing philosophies, so I delievered a more emphatic version of the idea than I might do in, say, a conversation at a convention. But I just think it's neat that someone read it. :) I'd just like to point out that I don't agree totally with my Punk Comics Manifesto either, but I think there's no sense in being wishy-washy when you issue a manifesto. :) I expected people to tune out parts of the message as they conflict with their own writing philosophies, so I delievered a more emphatic version of the idea than I might do in, say, a conversation at a convention.

But I just think it's neat that someone read it. :)

]]> By: "O" - the Humanatee! http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7761 "O" - the Humanatee! Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:29:39 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7761 Have you ever gone back and looked at Jim Aparo's work from the early to mid-'70s and before, Greg? It was far less stiff than his work later became. (Remember, this is the guy that many people consider <i>the</i> Aquaman artist.) It may just be a matter of taste, but as far as I'm concerned, Aparo - of whom I'm a big fan - is far and away his own best inker. But he mostly deserves admiration for being an excellent storyteller: check out his panel-by-panel continuity (i.e., follow the story by looking at the pictures without reading the words). Have you ever gone back and looked at Jim Aparo's work from the early to mid-'70s and before, Greg? It was far less stiff than his work later became. (Remember, this is the guy that many people consider the Aquaman artist.) It may just be a matter of taste, but as far as I'm concerned, Aparo - of whom I'm a big fan - is far and away his own best inker. But he mostly deserves admiration for being an excellent storyteller: check out his panel-by-panel continuity (i.e., follow the story by looking at the pictures without reading the words).

]]> By: Aaron Kashtan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7732 Aaron Kashtan Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:45:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7732 Comics literacy is an acquired skill. Just as we all learned to read text at one point or another, we all learned to read comics. And just as some people can't read text because they've never learned how, some people can't read comics. I don't know if this has ever been scientifically proven, but it seems self-evident to me. Comics literacy is an acquired skill. Just as we all learned to read text at one point or another, we all learned to read comics. And just as some people can't read text because they've never learned how, some people can't read comics. I don't know if this has ever been scientifically proven, but it seems self-evident to me.

]]> By: yo go re http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7726 yo go re Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:47:28 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7726 I remember a mention of that in <i>Understanding Comics</i>, too, but I never really grasped the problem. I mean, I read newspaper comics for years before I ever picked up a comicbook, so I already had it down. Well, other than those Image books where the balloons jump all over the place. That's still problematic. In the cases where someone doesn't know how to read comics, what do they try to do? All the way across both pages? I remember a mention of that in Understanding Comics, too, but I never really grasped the problem. I mean, I read newspaper comics for years before I ever picked up a comicbook, so I already had it down. Well, other than those Image books where the balloons jump all over the place. That's still problematic. In the cases where someone doesn't know how to read comics, what do they try to do? All the way across both pages?

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7719 Brian Cronin Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:17:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7719 Yeah, I once had to explain it to a friend, and I was struck by it, too. "Oh, right, this is not something everyone knows." Yeah, I once had to explain it to a friend, and I was struck by it, too. "Oh, right, this is not something everyone knows."

]]> By: Darth Krzysztof http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7716 Darth Krzysztof Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:36:11 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7716 <i>I know how to read a comic book (something which, interestingly enough, is NOT an innate skill).</i> My wife has a hard time figuring out which way her eyes need to go when she reads comics. I used to pick on her about it until right-to-left manga started appearing in the States, because now I have an idea of what it's like. I know how to read a comic book (something which, interestingly enough, is NOT an innate skill).

My wife has a hard time figuring out which way her eyes need to go when she reads comics.

I used to pick on her about it until right-to-left manga started appearing in the States, because now I have an idea of what it's like.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/comment-page-1/#comment-7715 Brian Cronin Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:35:49 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/09/17/into-the-back-issue-box/#comment-7715 Clever idea, Greg!! Clever idea, Greg!!

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