Comments on: Top Five Best Supervillains From The Past Ten Years http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:52:16 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nobody http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-679481 Nobody Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:55:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-679481 Prometheus shouldn't be penalized for Lieberman misusing him post-Morrison, as Simone recently did a great Prometheus story in BOP and nothing Lieberman did (heinous though it was) was any worse than Johns having the General KO'd by Hal Jordan throwing a jeep at him. Prometheus shouldn't be penalized for Lieberman misusing him post-Morrison, as Simone recently did a great Prometheus story in BOP and nothing Lieberman did (heinous though it was) was any worse than Johns having the General KO'd by Hal Jordan throwing a jeep at him.

]]> By: jokerRULES http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-658116 jokerRULES Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:15:29 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-658116 DUDE JOKER IS #######11111111111111111111111 DUDE JOKER IS #######11111111111111111111111

]]> By: Stony http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-10403 Stony Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:27:34 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-10403 You missed Morningbright the dragon from the SMAX mini series. More badass than even Sir Miles Delacourt. You missed Morningbright the dragon from the SMAX mini series.
More badass than even Sir Miles Delacourt.

]]> By: Jim Gubicza http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9653 Jim Gubicza Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:30:29 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9653 Vaughn's the Hood should be an honorable mention at least... Vaughn's the Hood should be an honorable mention at least...

]]> By: stealthwise http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9652 stealthwise Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:23:35 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9652 Man, it must be in the execution, because NONE of those concepts sound remotely interesting to me. And I don't dig long-spanning retcons, so Cassandra Nova just makes me shake my head. Man, it must be in the execution, because NONE of those concepts sound remotely interesting to me. And I don't dig long-spanning retcons, so Cassandra Nova just makes me shake my head.

]]> By: Lynxara http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9649 Lynxara Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:13:37 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9649 Amen, Brian. I can't STAND when people do that online-- it's like talking to a wall. Maybe I actually think exactly what I'm saying? Amen, Brian. I can't STAND when people do that online-- it's like talking to a wall. Maybe I actually think exactly what I'm saying?

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9633 Brian Cronin Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:52:11 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9633 Yeah, I'd really like it if people could just argue what someone says, and not concoct a motivation behind what they said and argue THAT. Yeah, I'd really like it if people could just argue what someone says, and not concoct a motivation behind what they said and argue THAT.

]]> By: Apodaca http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9632 Apodaca Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:41:10 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9632 "And while I’m not saying your opinion isn’t your opinion, I am saying it’s informed more by prevaling trends than fact. Calling Loeb a crappy writer isn’t accurate, it’s just attacking. You not liking Loeb no more makes him a crappy writer than me not liking Quitely makes him a crappy artist." You are factually wrong. The problems with Jeph Loeb's writing lie with his poor plot construction, transparent and often convoluted character motivations, and unoriginality in storytelling. Just because you like him doesn't mean I'm wrong. It means we disagree. And you saying that my opinion is more informed by prevailing trends than fact? That's you telling me what I think and don't think. That's you telling me my opinion isn't my opinion. "And while I’m not saying your opinion isn’t your opinion, I am saying it’s informed more by prevaling trends than fact. Calling Loeb a crappy writer isn’t accurate, it’s just attacking. You not liking Loeb no more makes him a crappy writer than me not liking Quitely makes him a crappy artist."

You are factually wrong. The problems with Jeph Loeb's writing lie with his poor plot construction, transparent and often convoluted character motivations, and unoriginality in storytelling. Just because you like him doesn't mean I'm wrong. It means we disagree.

And you saying that my opinion is more informed by prevailing trends than fact? That's you telling me what I think and don't think. That's you telling me my opinion isn't my opinion.

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9553 MarkAndrew Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:03:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9553 Oh yeah. I wasn't defending Hush the character at all. I liked both the Lee/Loeb issues and the Gotham Nights story, but he's still more of a series of plot points than a functional character. Kind of a cool visual, though. Although I wonder if the bandages and trenchcoat guy from 100 Bullets didn't come first. The top 5 NON super villains so we can have Lono. And the living tarot deck. <b>Jedeye</b> "wasn’t the whole point of the Morrison run *not* repeating the past 30 years of stories?" Nooooo.... That wasn't it. And has anyone mentioned the Fu Manchu rip-off from the Authority. Would've made MY top five. Oh yeah. I wasn't defending Hush the character at all. I liked both the Lee/Loeb issues and the Gotham Nights story, but he's still more of a series of plot points than a functional character.

Kind of a cool visual, though.

Although I wonder if the bandages and trenchcoat guy from 100 Bullets didn't come first.

The top 5 NON super villains so we can have Lono. And the living tarot deck.

Jedeye
"wasn’t the whole point of the Morrison run *not* repeating the past 30 years of stories?"

Nooooo.... That wasn't it.

And has anyone mentioned the Fu Manchu rip-off from the Authority. Would've made MY top five.

]]> By: Taniwha http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9544 Taniwha Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:02:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9544 Egh. No. Cassandra Nova is a sickeningly bad character in the same old stupid comic book "forgotten twin" mode. How about having a villain who's NOT so closely related to the main hero? Nova's a boring character, and her near omnipotence makes her so. A better character from the last 10 years? Hush is a good example, yes. Egh. No. Cassandra Nova is a sickeningly bad character in the same old stupid comic book "forgotten twin" mode.

How about having a villain who's NOT so closely related to the main hero?

Nova's a boring character, and her near omnipotence makes her so.

A better character from the last 10 years? Hush is a good example, yes.

]]> By: Jedeye http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9488 Jedeye Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:02:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9488 “And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn’t in hiding, he would have been the one doing that…” wasn't the whole point of the Morrison run *not* repeating the past 30 years of stories? And Mags tried it on in Planet X, but the whole point of that arc was that his time had passed, and perhaps it's down to younger, newer rebels (like QQ) to push things forwards a little bit. Masterful bit of commentary on the X-Men-as-genre, if you ask me. “And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn’t in hiding, he would have been the one doing that…”

wasn't the whole point of the Morrison run *not* repeating the past 30 years of stories? And Mags tried it on in Planet X, but the whole point of that arc was that his time had passed, and perhaps it's down to younger, newer rebels (like QQ) to push things forwards a little bit. Masterful bit of commentary on the X-Men-as-genre, if you ask me.

]]> By: yo go re http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9487 yo go re Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:58:49 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9487 Point being that "Magneto Jr." is, as a character, on par with X-23: a younger stand-in for an existing one. Like if the Young Avengers were all who they seemed to be at first blush. And while I'm not saying your opinion isn't your opinion, I am saying it's informed more by prevaling trends than fact. Calling Loeb a crappy writer isn't accurate, it's just attacking. You not liking Loeb no more makes him a crappy writer than me not liking Quitely makes him a crappy artist. Brian - Ezekiel is the old guy from JMS' Spider-Man run who introduced the idea that maybe Parker's powers weren't radioactive after all. Even if the angle is retconned later (which I wouldn't mind), he still did a great jod of screwing with Pete's head and came closer than anyone since Kraven to actually destroying Spidey... Point being that "Magneto Jr." is, as a character, on par with X-23: a younger stand-in for an existing one. Like if the Young Avengers were all who they seemed to be at first blush.

And while I'm not saying your opinion isn't your opinion, I am saying it's informed more by prevaling trends than fact. Calling Loeb a crappy writer isn't accurate, it's just attacking. You not liking Loeb no more makes him a crappy writer than me not liking Quitely makes him a crappy artist.

Brian - Ezekiel is the old guy from JMS' Spider-Man run who introduced the idea that maybe Parker's powers weren't radioactive after all. Even if the angle is retconned later (which I wouldn't mind), he still did a great jod of screwing with Pete's head and came closer than anyone since Kraven to actually destroying Spidey...

]]> By: Apodaca http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9481 Apodaca Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:00:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9481 "see, it’s the “Jeph Loeb is a crappy writer” thing that’s kewl. He’s one of those guys it’s hip to hate, no matter how he actually writes. Which is anything but crappy." So, you're telling me that my opinion is not actually my opinion and just something I buy into to seem cool. And not only do you suppose to know exactly what I think, but also the subconscious motivations behind it. Nice. Unfortunately for you, I actually dislike his writing and you don't know what you're talking about. "And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn’t in hiding, he would have been the one doing that…" Point being? "see, it’s the “Jeph Loeb is a crappy writer” thing that’s kewl. He’s one of those guys it’s hip to hate, no matter how he actually writes. Which is anything but crappy."

So, you're telling me that my opinion is not actually my opinion and just something I buy into to seem cool. And not only do you suppose to know exactly what I think, but also the subconscious motivations behind it. Nice.

Unfortunately for you, I actually dislike his writing and you don't know what you're talking about.

"And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn’t in hiding, he would have been the one doing that…"

Point being?

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9436 Brian Cronin Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:06:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9436 I considered the Pride, but I ultimately didn't think they were all THAT interesting. More like a bunch of cliches for their children to rebel against (the kids are really interesting, though!). Young Geoffrey Wilder was awesome, though. Maybe I'd give him a nod. I considered the Pride, but I ultimately didn't think they were all THAT interesting. More like a bunch of cliches for their children to rebel against (the kids are really interesting, though!).

Young Geoffrey Wilder was awesome, though. Maybe I'd give him a nod.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9435 Brian Cronin Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:04:14 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9435 And Sublime is basically just That-Which-Endures. Like, to the tee. So I can't give Sublime all that much credit, especially as they're both the SAME company! I like Johnny Sorrow, though. He didn't show up in Starman at all? That's why I didn't mention him, as I thought he was in Starman (and therefore, more than ten years ago). I don't think I'd have him Top Five, but he'd be close. Him, Prometheus, Basil Cronus, Nickelhead and Solaris all deserve honorable mentions! Casey and Morrison - cool supervillain makers supreme! And Sublime is basically just That-Which-Endures. Like, to the tee. So I can't give Sublime all that much credit, especially as they're both the SAME company!

I like Johnny Sorrow, though. He didn't show up in Starman at all? That's why I didn't mention him, as I thought he was in Starman (and therefore, more than ten years ago). I don't think I'd have him Top Five, but he'd be close. Him, Prometheus, Basil Cronus, Nickelhead and Solaris all deserve honorable mentions!

Casey and Morrison - cool supervillain makers supreme!

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9434 Brian Cronin Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:59:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9434 And sure, feel free to count Zoom. I wouldn't put him on the list, but I'd consider him eligible! And who is Ezikel? And sure, feel free to count Zoom. I wouldn't put him on the list, but I'd consider him eligible!

And who is Ezikel?

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9433 Brian Cronin Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:58:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9433 I dunno about Jeph Loeb, but Hush, the character, was awful. I will still hold a place for him, though, on the Top Five Villains Covered With Bandages list. I dunno about Jeph Loeb, but Hush, the character, was awful.

I will still hold a place for him, though, on the Top Five Villains Covered With Bandages list.

]]> By: yo go re http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9426 yo go re Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:09:05 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9426 Thank you, Mark - you're smarter (or at least better spoken and less of a jerk) than I am... Thank you, Mark - you're smarter (or at least better spoken and less of a jerk) than I am...

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9422 MarkAndrew Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:51:53 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9422 Jeph Loeb is insanely good at writing scripts that play to the strengths of specific artists. Look at how well he wrote for Jim Lee compared to how well Frank Miller's writing for Jim Lee. I think he's a crappy plotter, but he plays well with others and has a great sense of narrative beats. Alround good writer, says I. Jeph Loeb is insanely good at writing scripts that play to the strengths of specific artists. Look at how well he wrote for Jim Lee compared to how well Frank Miller's writing for Jim Lee.

I think he's a crappy plotter, but he plays well with others and has a great sense of narrative beats. Alround good writer, says I.

]]> By: yo go re http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/comment-page-2/#comment-9418 yo go re Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:56:49 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/03/top-five-best-supervillains-from-the-past-ten-years/#comment-9418 see, it's the "Jeph Loeb is a crappy writer" thing that's kewl. He's one of those guys it's hip to hate, no matter how he actually writes. Which is anything but crappy. And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn't in hiding, he would have been the one doing that... see, it's the "Jeph Loeb is a crappy writer" thing that's kewl. He's one of those guys it's hip to hate, no matter how he actually writes. Which is anything but crappy.

And ideologically challenging and unnerving Professor X? If Magneto wasn't in hiding, he would have been the one doing that...

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