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	<title>Comments on: CBR&#8217;s All-Time Top 100 Artists and Writers Countdown!</title>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about Mark Bagly, but I&#039;d have to say that everything you said about him applies just as well to Jim Aparo.

My big surprises so far have been:
Carlos Pacheco (though I like his work well enough)
Olivier Copiel
Jim Aparo
Mark Bagley
Steve McNiven (who?)
John Byrne (I&#039;m not surprised that he made the list - just that he&#039;s 6th in the artists  list)
Mike Mignola (in the writers list)
Fabien Nicieza (who?)
Roger Stern

This list doesn&#039;t include the people who&#039;s work I hate, but am not surprised by</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about Mark Bagly, but I&#8217;d have to say that everything you said about him applies just as well to Jim Aparo.</p>
<p>My big surprises so far have been:<br />
Carlos Pacheco (though I like his work well enough)<br />
Olivier Copiel<br />
Jim Aparo<br />
Mark Bagley<br />
Steve McNiven (who?)<br />
John Byrne (I&#8217;m not surprised that he made the list &#8211; just that he&#8217;s 6th in the artists  list)<br />
Mike Mignola (in the writers list)<br />
Fabien Nicieza (who?)<br />
Roger Stern</p>
<p>This list doesn&#8217;t include the people who&#8217;s work I hate, but am not surprised by</p>
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		<title>By: "O" - the Humanatee!</title>
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		<dc:creator>"O" - the Humanatee!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone&#039;s still reading this thread (perhaps you should put an updated entry on the site, Brian - at least when you finish putting in all the results), but I just wanted to say that the one artist whose presence on the list baffles me is Mark Bagley. The Image guys, and the Image-influenced Michael Turner, may not be to my taste, but at least their art has a kind of an adolescent hormone-addled zinginess (that&#039;s not to say the artists are adolescents) that I can see someone getting excited about. But Bagley, from what I&#039;ve seen, is a mediocrity across the board, or to put it more positively, a competent professional comics artist (but no more than that). Would the people who voted for him pick up a book just because it had Bagley art? Or are they just voting for him because he&#039;s associated with a book they like, maybe Ultimate Spider-Man?

Or is there some merit to his art that I&#039;m simply missing?

(In case anyone&#039;s wondering about my tastes, I think my vote was something like the following, though I&#039;ve misplaced my actual post to Brian:

1. Don Newton
2. Jim Aparo
3. Paul Smith
4. Steve Rude
5. Mike Mignola
6. Jack Kirby
7. Mike Kaluta
8. Dick Sprang
9.Gene Colan
10. Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone&#8217;s still reading this thread (perhaps you should put an updated entry on the site, Brian &#8211; at least when you finish putting in all the results), but I just wanted to say that the one artist whose presence on the list baffles me is Mark Bagley. The Image guys, and the Image-influenced Michael Turner, may not be to my taste, but at least their art has a kind of an adolescent hormone-addled zinginess (that&#8217;s not to say the artists are adolescents) that I can see someone getting excited about. But Bagley, from what I&#8217;ve seen, is a mediocrity across the board, or to put it more positively, a competent professional comics artist (but no more than that). Would the people who voted for him pick up a book just because it had Bagley art? Or are they just voting for him because he&#8217;s associated with a book they like, maybe Ultimate Spider-Man?</p>
<p>Or is there some merit to his art that I&#8217;m simply missing?</p>
<p>(In case anyone&#8217;s wondering about my tastes, I think my vote was something like the following, though I&#8217;ve misplaced my actual post to Brian:</p>
<p>1. Don Newton<br />
2. Jim Aparo<br />
3. Paul Smith<br />
4. Steve Rude<br />
5. Mike Mignola<br />
6. Jack Kirby<br />
7. Mike Kaluta<br />
8. Dick Sprang<br />
9.Gene Colan<br />
10. Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez)</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes sense, and I certainly did enjoy him at the time, while I was in high school (I adored his work on Hulk). He&#039;s kinda to Image artists  what Mignola is to regular comic artists (or something like that), in that his characters are ultra stylized to the point that they are far more unrealistic than say, Jim Lee&#039;s or Mark Silvestri&#039;s unrealistic characters. So, I guess I can see the attraction; I was just surprised that the attraction held as strongly as it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense, and I certainly did enjoy him at the time, while I was in high school (I adored his work on Hulk). He&#8217;s kinda to Image artists  what Mignola is to regular comic artists (or something like that), in that his characters are ultra stylized to the point that they are far more unrealistic than say, Jim Lee&#8217;s or Mark Silvestri&#8217;s unrealistic characters. So, I guess I can see the attraction; I was just surprised that the attraction held as strongly as it did.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are good points about Tod McFarlane.  I guess the reasons he were voted are the same reasons that he&#039;s the only 90&#039;s Image house style artist that I&#039;ve ever had any time for (the art not the person).  His work for me stands way above Jim Lee and Rob Leifeld and the rest of that crowd.

(Note - in the above statement I can only say that because Erik Larsen was never 90&#039;s Image House Style artist)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are good points about Tod McFarlane.  I guess the reasons he were voted are the same reasons that he&#8217;s the only 90&#8242;s Image house style artist that I&#8217;ve ever had any time for (the art not the person).  His work for me stands way above Jim Lee and Rob Leifeld and the rest of that crowd.</p>
<p>(Note &#8211; in the above statement I can only say that because Erik Larsen was never 90&#8242;s Image House Style artist)</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually pretty happy with the lists so far. Many of my favs are appearing. So are a lot of creators whose work I find pretty darned lacking. 

But the fact that Todd McFarlane beat out Barry Windsor-Smith was sad. I think it made my heart cry a little. On the inside.

I think McFarlane&#039;s an interesting vote because, while lauded at the time) he hasn&#039;t done anything for so long really that he can&#039;t really be shrugged off as a pop vote like one might be inclined to do with contemporary creators with little history (Wheadon, Finch, etc.). Voters had to think back a decade to pick him out; they had to consider. And still, enough picked him that he could beat out scads of others. Now, I&#039;m not judging here, but I do find it surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually pretty happy with the lists so far. Many of my favs are appearing. So are a lot of creators whose work I find pretty darned lacking. </p>
<p>But the fact that Todd McFarlane beat out Barry Windsor-Smith was sad. I think it made my heart cry a little. On the inside.</p>
<p>I think McFarlane&#8217;s an interesting vote because, while lauded at the time) he hasn&#8217;t done anything for so long really that he can&#8217;t really be shrugged off as a pop vote like one might be inclined to do with contemporary creators with little history (Wheadon, Finch, etc.). Voters had to think back a decade to pick him out; they had to consider. And still, enough picked him that he could beat out scads of others. Now, I&#8217;m not judging here, but I do find it surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe if you donâ€™t like Andy Kuberts art (personally I find it passable) then you lack the knowledge of what appeal Andyâ€™s art has.&quot;

You&#039;re right. I don&#039;t know what appeal his art has. I can&#039;t find anything appealing about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe if you donâ€™t like Andy Kuberts art (personally I find it passable) then you lack the knowledge of what appeal Andyâ€™s art has.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. I don&#8217;t know what appeal his art has. I can&#8217;t find anything appealing about it.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take back what I said about Jeph Loeb.  I don&#039;t think he deserved to be at number 25, but I thought he&#039;d be in the top ten.

(If he&#039;d kept up the standard of writing he had in The Challengers of the Unknown then he&#039;d deserve to be in the top ten)

Other things - Re: &quot;All Time&quot;, I can see your point here, but it&#039;s still valid because it stresses that we are voting for our favourites from all time, rather than our current favourites.

RE: &quot;Lack of knowledge&quot; - If someone likes Andy Kubert&#039;s work then that does not show a lack of knowledge of what makes &quot;good art&quot;.  Maybe if you don&#039;t like Andy Kuberts art (personally I find it passable) then you lack the knowledge of what appeal Andy&#039;s art has.   Gawd knows I lack the knowledge of what people see in Jim Lee&#039;s art - and various others I&#039;ve seen in the list so far.

And Alex Toth was robbed - He should have breezed the top ten

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take back what I said about Jeph Loeb.  I don&#8217;t think he deserved to be at number 25, but I thought he&#8217;d be in the top ten.</p>
<p>(If he&#8217;d kept up the standard of writing he had in The Challengers of the Unknown then he&#8217;d deserve to be in the top ten)</p>
<p>Other things &#8211; Re: &#8220;All Time&#8221;, I can see your point here, but it&#8217;s still valid because it stresses that we are voting for our favourites from all time, rather than our current favourites.</p>
<p>RE: &#8220;Lack of knowledge&#8221; &#8211; If someone likes Andy Kubert&#8217;s work then that does not show a lack of knowledge of what makes &#8220;good art&#8221;.  Maybe if you don&#8217;t like Andy Kuberts art (personally I find it passable) then you lack the knowledge of what appeal Andy&#8217;s art has.   Gawd knows I lack the knowledge of what people see in Jim Lee&#8217;s art &#8211; and various others I&#8217;ve seen in the list so far.</p>
<p>And Alex Toth was robbed &#8211; He should have breezed the top ten</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;â€¦Seeing as how much they seem to like Wheadon, eh Grant?&quot;

I like Whedon. Just not his comic work. I&#039;m not badmouthing anyone for voting for Whedon. They like Kirkman too and Invincible is similar to Savage Dragon (considering it&#039;s one of Kirkman&#039;s favorites).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;â€¦Seeing as how much they seem to like Wheadon, eh Grant?&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Whedon. Just not his comic work. I&#8217;m not badmouthing anyone for voting for Whedon. They like Kirkman too and Invincible is similar to Savage Dragon (considering it&#8217;s one of Kirkman&#8217;s favorites).</p>
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		<title>By: NewScott</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, everyone&#039;s being so down on the list, but there does seem to be a nice mix of old and new on the 50-25 list thusfar. I think that all the ragging on Whedon and Loeb and Jim Lee is a little jumping the gun here. 

Guys like Walt Simonson, Gil Kane, Jack Kirby (The Writer!) are all represented. 

And Kudos to Brian for making the list informative and interesting. You rock, BC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, everyone&#8217;s being so down on the list, but there does seem to be a nice mix of old and new on the 50-25 list thusfar. I think that all the ragging on Whedon and Loeb and Jim Lee is a little jumping the gun here. </p>
<p>Guys like Walt Simonson, Gil Kane, Jack Kirby (The Writer!) are all represented. </p>
<p>And Kudos to Brian for making the list informative and interesting. You rock, BC!</p>
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		<title>By: stealthwise</title>
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		<dc:creator>stealthwise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad because I voted for my own favourites, rather than who were actually the &quot;best&quot; according to my own opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad because I voted for my own favourites, rather than who were actually the &#8220;best&#8221; according to my own opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I donâ€™t think thereâ€™s any â€œFactâ€ to it at all. Art is not wholly subjective, but it is subjective enough that you can always debate the relative quality of artists (and I mean artists in the broad sense, not the â€œdraws picturesâ€ sense) from here nigh unto eternity. I still maintain Ed Wood had talent.&quot;

But see, you&#039;re talking about talent. I&#039;m talking about skill. And neither one is wholly reliant on the other. It&#039;s totally possible to have interesting characters in fascinating situations who have the worst, most stilted dialogue in history. The difference between talent and skill is that one is objectively measurable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t think thereâ€™s any â€œFactâ€ to it at all. Art is not wholly subjective, but it is subjective enough that you can always debate the relative quality of artists (and I mean artists in the broad sense, not the â€œdraws picturesâ€ sense) from here nigh unto eternity. I still maintain Ed Wood had talent.&#8221;</p>
<p>But see, you&#8217;re talking about talent. I&#8217;m talking about skill. And neither one is wholly reliant on the other. It&#8217;s totally possible to have interesting characters in fascinating situations who have the worst, most stilted dialogue in history. The difference between talent and skill is that one is objectively measurable.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Kubert at #28 is where I know that my tastes and the lists are totally irreconcilable. That&#039;s o.k., but I think this list says a lot more about the voters than the writers and artists.

I&#039;m starting to think that Wally Wood, Russ Heath, Dick Sprang, Curt Swan, Jerry Robinson, Mac Raboy, and Lou Fine, among others, aren&#039;t going to be on the artists list. And I&#039;m equally doubtful of Robert Kanigher, Joe Simon, Otto Binder, Bill Finger, Gardner Fox, John Broome, Bob Haney, Arnold Drake, and Michael Fleisher for writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Kubert at #28 is where I know that my tastes and the lists are totally irreconcilable. That&#8217;s o.k., but I think this list says a lot more about the voters than the writers and artists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think that Wally Wood, Russ Heath, Dick Sprang, Curt Swan, Jerry Robinson, Mac Raboy, and Lou Fine, among others, aren&#8217;t going to be on the artists list. And I&#8217;m equally doubtful of Robert Kanigher, Joe Simon, Otto Binder, Bill Finger, Gardner Fox, John Broome, Bob Haney, Arnold Drake, and Michael Fleisher for writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;â€œLack of knowledgeâ€ refers to the fact that there are technically BETTER writers than Joss Whedon, who are lower on the list. Itâ€™s not a matter of what you prefer, itâ€™s a matter of knowing what elements make up the craft of storytelling, and whoâ€™s good at those things.&quot;

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any &quot;Fact&quot; to it at all. Art is not wholly subjective, but it is subjective enough that you can always debate the relative quality of artists (and I mean artists in the broad sense, not the &quot;draws pictures&quot; sense) from here nigh unto eternity. I still maintain Ed Wood had talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;â€œLack of knowledgeâ€ refers to the fact that there are technically BETTER writers than Joss Whedon, who are lower on the list. Itâ€™s not a matter of what you prefer, itâ€™s a matter of knowing what elements make up the craft of storytelling, and whoâ€™s good at those things.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any &#8220;Fact&#8221; to it at all. Art is not wholly subjective, but it is subjective enough that you can always debate the relative quality of artists (and I mean artists in the broad sense, not the &#8220;draws pictures&#8221; sense) from here nigh unto eternity. I still maintain Ed Wood had talent.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Seeing as how much they seem to like Wheadon, eh Grant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Seeing as how much they seem to like Wheadon, eh Grant?</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 04:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just hope Erik Larsen makes it onto ONE of the lists.&quot;

I kind of doubt it. He doesn&#039;t get a whole lot of love at CBR. Which is kind of shame because I think a lot of people here would like Savage Dragon if they gave it a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just hope Erik Larsen makes it onto ONE of the lists.&#8221;</p>
<p>I kind of doubt it. He doesn&#8217;t get a whole lot of love at CBR. Which is kind of shame because I think a lot of people here would like Savage Dragon if they gave it a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s fine, Robert (and Dan, too).

Nothing wrong with saying, &quot;You have ___ ahead of ___?!?&quot; or &quot;How could you put ____ on the list?&quot;

That&#039;s completely reasonable.

I know I was thinking that often while compiling the votes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s fine, Robert (and Dan, too).</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with saying, &#8220;You have ___ ahead of ___?!?&#8221; or &#8220;How could you put ____ on the list?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s completely reasonable.</p>
<p>I know I was thinking that often while compiling the votes. <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m the one that started this mini-controversy, let me say that I think there&#039;s a great deal of difference between &quot;lack of knowledge&quot; and &quot;stupidity&quot;. I&#039;d have used &quot;stupidity&quot; if I had meant it. There&#039;s a cure for &quot;lack of knowledge&quot;, curiosity and research, there&#039;s no cure for &quot;stupidity&quot;. I suppose I should put more emphasis on the &quot;CBR&quot; in the poll title. I&#039;ll be shocked if the lists aren&#039;t dominated by Marvel and DC writers and artists of the last 20 years and a smattering of Silver Age writers and artists. 

Even considering that, I&#039;d have a hard time voting for anyone who hadn&#039;t been working in comics regularly for 10+ years for any sort of All Time list. Heck, I like Joss Whedon, but I&#039;d have a hard time thinking he&#039;d belong in the top 500 due to his small body of work, and certainly I&#039;d put him behind some true pioneers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m the one that started this mini-controversy, let me say that I think there&#8217;s a great deal of difference between &#8220;lack of knowledge&#8221; and &#8220;stupidity&#8221;. I&#8217;d have used &#8220;stupidity&#8221; if I had meant it. There&#8217;s a cure for &#8220;lack of knowledge&#8221;, curiosity and research, there&#8217;s no cure for &#8220;stupidity&#8221;. I suppose I should put more emphasis on the &#8220;CBR&#8221; in the poll title. I&#8217;ll be shocked if the lists aren&#8217;t dominated by Marvel and DC writers and artists of the last 20 years and a smattering of Silver Age writers and artists. </p>
<p>Even considering that, I&#8217;d have a hard time voting for anyone who hadn&#8217;t been working in comics regularly for 10+ years for any sort of All Time list. Heck, I like Joss Whedon, but I&#8217;d have a hard time thinking he&#8217;d belong in the top 500 due to his small body of work, and certainly I&#8217;d put him behind some true pioneers.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Adam and DanCJ-

You guys are arguing with something I didn&#039;t say. I&#039;m not talking about what the poll should be or anything. I was explaining the &quot;lack of knowledge&quot; comment that people took offense to.

I don&#039;t care who people vote for, but if they&#039;re voting Andy Kubert as one of the best artists of all time, then they literally don&#039;t know what makes good art. They know what they like, yes, but there is still a lack of knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Adam and DanCJ-</p>
<p>You guys are arguing with something I didn&#8217;t say. I&#8217;m not talking about what the poll should be or anything. I was explaining the &#8220;lack of knowledge&#8221; comment that people took offense to.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care who people vote for, but if they&#8217;re voting Andy Kubert as one of the best artists of all time, then they literally don&#8217;t know what makes good art. They know what they like, yes, but there is still a lack of knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the title should be changed to â€œCBRs All-Time Top 100 Writers and Artists as Voted by the Fans Based Upon Their Objective Perspective.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that&#039;s an accurate satire of the fairly unrealistic expectations regarding this list.

In any event, even if that WAS the title of the list, and we tossed in ALL the parsing language that people wanted, we would STILL get basically these same results , because there are a whole lot of people who DO think that Joss Whedon is, objectively, one the greatest comic book writers of all-time.

There are plenty of people who DO think that Greg Land is, objectively, one of the most proficient comic book artists of all-time.

Feel free to disagree with them. Lord knows I do.

But, like Lynxara said, &quot;A professional would probably do that, but you donâ€™t go to fans expecting professional behavior!&quot;

Exactly. We&#039;re just judging what the CBR posters think - which should be evident in the fact that the votes are cast by CBR posters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe the title should be changed to â€œCBRs All-Time Top 100 Writers and Artists as Voted by the Fans Based Upon Their Objective Perspective.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s an accurate satire of the fairly unrealistic expectations regarding this list.</p>
<p>In any event, even if that WAS the title of the list, and we tossed in ALL the parsing language that people wanted, we would STILL get basically these same results , because there are a whole lot of people who DO think that Joss Whedon is, objectively, one the greatest comic book writers of all-time.</p>
<p>There are plenty of people who DO think that Greg Land is, objectively, one of the most proficient comic book artists of all-time.</p>
<p>Feel free to disagree with them. Lord knows I do.</p>
<p>But, like Lynxara said, &#8220;A professional would probably do that, but you donâ€™t go to fans expecting professional behavior!&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. We&#8217;re just judging what the CBR posters think &#8211; which should be evident in the fact that the votes are cast by CBR posters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan D. White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan D. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope Erik Larsen makes it onto ONE of the lists.</description>
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