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Fixing Infinite Crisis

Awhile back, it was reported that DC was going to be doing a number of “corrections” on Infinite Crisis for the hardcover collection. Well, last week, the collection was released, so, courtesy of everybody’s pal, Paul Newell, and another poster named constant, here are the corrections that were made.

First, here’s Paul:

As for the changes, well, (Glancing through quickly), we have:

Issue 1:

* When Diana lunges at Mongul with her sword and Superman stops her, the dialogue is added to as Wonder Woman admits she was going to “pin him to the floor”.
* The two page spread of the trinity arguing has dispersed through it images of Uncle Sam getting the crap beaten out of him by the Society, then shot by Deathstroke.

Issue 3:

* The “Purple Death Ray” line has been removed!
* When Batman asks about Nightwing, the line now reads, “You said this Earth corrupts everything. Is the Dick Grayson of my Earth a corrupted version of yours?”

Issue 5:

* A two page spread is added of the heroes within the church. Lots of cameo’s added.

Issue 7:

* The 2 page spread of the villain fight has the inks finished and is fully coloured.
* Bane, as he’s breaking Judomaster’s back, now says, “I finally know who I am. I am Bane. I break people.”
* A couple more bits of dialogue are added to this page and the Special effect is taken out so you know see, clearly, Solomon Grundy and the Bloodpack being fried by Superboy.
* When Wildcat sees the Earth-2 Superman for the first time, his dialogue is changed from “I think I remember him.” to “It looks like Superman.”
* Captain Atom’s dialogue is changed to “Where’s the Earth…That other Earth…?”
* A page is added in of Deathstroke fighting Batman, Nightwing and Robin and Batman takes Deathstroke out.
* When the two Superman grab Superboy Prime, the following dialogue is added after “Now Superman!”, “For Tomorrow!”
* A page is added showing more of the villain war and Dr. Mid-nite pronouncing Nightwing alive.
* When Batman points the gun at Alex, the “Chak” sound effect is taken out.
* The two page spread of the heroes, at the end, is totally redrawn by George Perez with twice the amount of heroes. Looks fantastic!

The end of the book has a discussion with the creative team which has lots of little tidbits I’ll go into later, but also ahs some extra art, unpublished stuff and otherwise, including:

* An unused panel showing Pantha’s head flying through the air past Robotman and Argent.
* Unused artwork for the Earth-2 Wonder Woman sequence.
* The original versions of the Villain War two page spread and Batman cocking the gun.

Now here’s constant:

Issue 1

Old
Wonder Woman: “What did you think I was going to do?”

New
Wonder Woman: “What did you think I was going to do? Kill him? I was going to pin him to the floor.”

Old
Wonder Woman: “Look at what’s going on across the globe, Bruce. Do you really believe humanity’s going to rise above it themselves?”

Batman: “You’ve lost faith.”

Wonder Woman: “The world is not as black and white as you and Kal see it.”

Batman: “Diana… you should’ve stayed in paradise.”

Wonder Woman: “And you should stop judging everyone but yourself.”

New
– The same, but printed a panel below.

Issue 3

Old
: “Kraa Kooom”

New
– no sound effect

Old
Mera: “We need to get everyone someplace dry.”

Aquaman (I assume): “Where would that be, Mera?

(Unknown): “They’ve reported over sixty category five storms across the world. Three on the U.S. coast alone.”

New:
Mera: “We need to get everyone someplace dry.”

Aquaman (I assume): “Where would that be, Mera? They’ve reported over sixty category five storms across the world. Three on the U.S. coast alone.”

Old
Amazon dudette: “We already have. The purple death ray has been completed.”

New
Amazon dudette: “We already have.”

Old
: “Kraa Kooom” (yes, a different one)

New
– no sound effect

Old
Batman: “And what about Dick Grayson?”

E-2 Superman: “Yes?

Batman: “Is he a better man on your earth than he is on mine?”

E-2 Superman: “No.”

New
Batman: “And what about Dick Grayson?”

E-2 Superman: “Yes?”

Batman: “You said this earth corrupts everything. Is the Dick Grayson of my earth a corrupted version of yours?”

E-2 Superman: “No.”

Old
Lex: “What? Who are you?”

New
Lex: “What? Who are you?”

Alex: “My hologram…”

Issue 4

Old
Autopsy dude: “Poor vic had a wife, two kids… things like this happen, the world goes crazy, makes you wonder if there’s a god.”

New
Autopsy dude: “Chris Allen had a wife, two kids… things like this happen, the world goes crazy, makes you wonder if there’s a god.”

Issue 5

Old
“God works in mysterious ways.”

New
“God works in mysterious ways.” (on next page with 2-page hero spread)

Old
Kal-L: “I can’t be another survivor of a dead world. Not without you.”

Lois: “With all your powers, with everything you saw and did… …you still never…”

Kal-L: “It can’t end this way.”

New
Kal-L: “I can’t be another survivor of a dead world. Not without you.”

Lois: “I see the truth now, Clark. A truth even Alexander didn’t see… …there’s something else out there… …out there…

Kal-L: “It can’t end this way.

Issue 6

Old
Psycho Pirate: “I can feel them. Phantom beings from the fabric of Earth-One, pulled from their restful peace, reborn in pain and given essence– –then destroyed. Billions at a time.”

Alex: “I planted this garden, Psycho Pirate. I have every right to tend to it.”

New
Psycho Pirate: “I can feel phantom beings pulled from the fabrics of the multiverse, recreated and destroyed. For some reason Earth-Two remains vacant. Why when billions of other beings appear across the Multiverse like gosts.Reborn… …then destroyed.”

Alex: “The anomalies of Earth-Two are not my concern. Finding the perfect Earth is.”

Issue 7

Old
Crimson Avenger: “I thought Phantom Stranger and the other sepllcasters were bringin’ in the Spectre to help.” (sic)

Dude with puppy dog on his jacket: “Help? I heard he killed three of them and left.”

Gypsy: “Black Adam’s on our side now?”

Zatanna: “I think he’s on his own side, Gypsy.”

New
Bane: “I finally know who I am. I am Bane. I break people.”

Crimson Avenger: “I thought Phantom Stranger and the other spellcasters were bringin’ in the Spectre to help.”

Dude with puppy dog on his jacket: “Help? I heard he killed three of them and left.”

Shining Knight: “Good night, jester!”

Gypsy: “Black Adam’s on our side now?”

Zatanna: “I think he’s on his own side, Gypsy.”

Solomon Grundy: “RRRARRR–”

Old
Alex: “This isn’t Earth-One, Superboy. It never really was. And now this ‘unified’ world, this New Earth, has been altered again.”

New
Alex: “This isn’t Earth-One, Superboy. In fact, it never was. I miscalculated. I tried to divide a New Earth. Instead, I only altered its history.”

Old
Wildcat: “Who is that?”

Power Girl: “Who do you think, Wildcat?”

Wildcat: “I think I remember. That’s him.”

Power Girl: “Yep. He’s our Superm–”

New
Wildcat: “Who is that?”

Power Girl: “Who do you think, Wildcat?”

Wildcat: “It looks like Superman.”

Power Girl: “Yep, he’s out Superm–”

Old
Captain Atom: “W-What? Where am I?”

New
Captain Atom: “Where’s the Earth… that other Earth?”

Old
– nothing

New
Batman: “You joined a society of villains. You killed Phantom Lady. You destroyed Bludhaven. Why do it, Deathstroke?”

Deathstroke: “Because they’re paying me, Batman.”

Batman: “No, it’s something else. You’ve abandoned your code of honor. Why?”

Nightwing: “Because his family abandoned him. He lost his sons. His daughter.”

Deathstroke: “Because of you. It’s always been because of you.”

Robin: “You need to take some responsibility, Slade.”

Batman: “We all do.”

Old
Kal-L: “Now, Superman!”

Power Girl: “Kal!”

New
Kal-L: “Now, Superman!”

Power Girl: “Kal!”

Kal-L (I assume): “For tomorrow!”

Old
– nothing

New
Dr. Psycho: “Aiie!!”

Killer Croc: “Look what we got here, Robin and Nightwing. Fresh meat.”

Beast Boy: “Not with the Titans around.”

Flash: “Later, guys.”

Robin: “Dr. Mid-nite? Is Nightwing–?”

Dr. Mid-night: “He’ll be all right. I give you my word.” (sic)

Old
: “Chak”

New
– no sound effect

Old
Batman: “Did he–?”

Wonder Woman: “I don’t know.”

Superboy-Prime: “Where do you think you’re going? Where?!”

New
Batman: “Did he–?”

Wonder Woman: “I don’t know.”

(unspecified): “He’s going to be fine.”

Superboy-Prime: “Where are you taking me? Where?!”

Old
Power Girl: “Let me down now, John.”

New
– nothing

Old
Kal-L: “It’s not going to end. It’s never going to end… for us… …Lois.”

New
Kal-L: “It’s not going to end. It’s never going to end… for us… …one day you’ll see… …they’re still out there… …Lois.”

Wow. That’s a lot of darn changes.

Thanks to Paul and constant!

46 Comments

You realise of course that I’m going the shop to buy this today, so I had to skip the whole post :(

However – can someone confirm for me that they fixed the stupid sound effect from the gun Batman is holding?

Hooray!

/ can now rest easy, but not if I get to the shop and they’re all sold out. Then there’s gonna be trouble.

Incidentally, did anyone notice the quote thingy on the front of the book? I thought it was slightly depressing that the best BUY THIS TEH NOW quote they could find was one that gave it an A-. That’s *A Minus*!!

Pretty interesting that they ran with that…you’d have thought they’d have trawled the murky depths till they’d found a triple-a star review.

I’ll give it the worse grade imaginable! An A Minus MINUS!

To be fair, the ‘A-’ review comes from “Entertainment Weekly,” which, though a worthless rag in my opinion, carries a lot more clout than any other publication which regulary reviews comics.

But the real is question… does “Infinite Crisis” still suck?

NO MORE PURPLE DEATH RAY? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I’m gonna get my crayons and make these changes right now!

Man, a lot of those changes sound pretty leaden. Infinite Crisis wasn’t exactly the most poetic of books – an understatement – but they take some of the moments that were, and turn them into awkward exposition!

I especially dislike the change to the Dick Grayson line. I know a lot of people misread it in the original (why, I don’t know exactly), but it was a neat moment, and such a clunker when rewritten to be so obvious.

I don’t know, the original Dick Grayson line confused the hell out of me – not so much because of what was said, but because it was done in a way which suggested there would be more “debate” about this whole dick grayson thing after they came back from the following scenes or whatever. There were quite a few bits like this.

I’m about 3 quarters through the hardcover now, and for the most part the edits are pretty decent. Getting rid of a lot of the KABLAMMO sound effects was a good move – some of the panels are absolutely tiny and crammed with too much detail as it is, so drawing it then obscuring the panel completely with BOOMA-BANG-BANG was pretty stupid of them.

Question: was it ever explained why the new blue beetle was able to see brother eye? or how booster knew he’d be able to do this? That’s been bugging me – ahaha – for ages.

Okay – now for parts 6 and 7. If they don’t wind up with the monster nudie movie ending I’m taking this thing back to the store.

Honestly, if you own an issue of IC 7, you should be able to bring it to the store and receive copies of the inked/colored Villain war spread and the new heroes splash page for free. It’s inexcusable that DC released such a shoddy, unfinished issue.

I agree about the Dick Grayson line, that it was one of the book’s better lines and shouldn’t have been changed. I also like Alex’s line about tending the garden; sorry to see that go. It sounds like DC listened to what fans were saying and clarified a lot of things; still, it’s frustrating to have spent all that money on what is essentially a rough draft. This raises the question: would you rather a company stick to it’s schedule but knowingly release an inferior product, a la Infinite Crisis, or go off schedule to get the book right, a la Civil War?

a la Civil War.

But it was still annoying as heck that it all got pushed back.

Get it right the first time. Its one thing to have multiple editions (magazine, HC, SC, Digest, etc.) but to have a content change from one to the other that goes beyond covers and extras seems wrong. Especially when it includes adding pages. They didn’t add an epilouge or something like that, they added fight scenes and story-moments. Thats not cool.

“would you rather a company stick to it’s schedule but knowingly release an inferior product, a la Infinite Crisis, or go off schedule to get the book right, a la Civil War?”

I think the problem with this one is there was only so much prep work they could do on it because of the way it was tied to

a) one year later having to hit regardless of IC shipping dates and

b) 52 also hitting.

having to ensure all 3 came out on time because of the interconnected nature probably buried the idea of being able to have any sort of IC delay :(

…and I just finished the whole thing.

something I hated:

“For tomorrow!”

seriously, why’d they add that in? cheese-tacular.

The most serious omission from the original (and the most interesting addition) is grandpa superman saying “you’ll see….they’re out there” to Power Girl.

Is this the world’s biggest hint towards earth 2 coming back or what? and if thats the case, it really IS inexcusable that such an important potential upcoming plot reveal be left out of the original.

whoops.

“would you rather a company stick to it’s schedule but knowingly release an inferior product, a la Infinite Crisis, or go off schedule to get the book right, a la Civil War?”

The problem in the way you phrased the question is that you state:
A) that INFINITE CRISIS was an inferior product. Inferior to what, though? It was certainly the best comic book on the stands when it was being published (yeah, damning with faint praise, but still).
B) that CIVIL WAR is “getting it right.” No, I think that book has so many problems that nothing Marvel can do right now will fix its problems. And its main failure is that it is not even CLOSE to being the best comic book on the stands right now, which is generally the main point of these massive crossovers — they’re a mess, but they’re so entertaining that you just gotta read it anyways. Readers today can blithely ignore CIVIL WAR and still be able to continue their comic book reading.

By “inferior product”, I mean that the work was rushed to get it on the stands, then “fixed” for the collection. It’s inferior only in relation to itself, so that those of us that bought the story the first time around were buying… well, I can’t think of another word but “inferior”. As for Civil War, I’m not so much making a declaration of what I as a reader think the quality is, but what Marvel as as a publisher is saying: that they pushed the date back to publish the book that they wanted. I’m not personally making a claim of quality with either, merely stating that they chose two different ways to solve the same problem.

In any event, the real solution to this problem is for editorilal to get their collective heads out of their collective @$$es and not schedule the damn things untill they have the majority of them in the can. It’s idiotic for both to not leave their creators plenty of time to insure they do the best work possible and on time. If Phil Jimminez and Steve McNiven can’t get the work in quickly enough, then you push the damn “event” back untill they get ahead. Simple.

the more I read it, the more i’m questioning exactly why these omissions were left out in the first place. the big jazzy fight scene spreads, i can kinda understand…but theres a number of text inserts that basically alter the entire tone of what (to me) IC is all about.

First time round, everyone wondered why power girl was made out to be so important, then basically forgotten about…or why they made such a big deal of “earth 2″ supposedly returning, only to be tossed aside suddenly like the worlds worst you-know-what tease.

Its obvious now that IC was supposed to be an announcement of the return of E-2 – yet the all important lines that would have made sense of this (just five or six additions!) somehow did NOT make it into the original edition.

uh, wtf? they were unable to find the time to throw in a couple of bit of dialogue that would’ve actually made sense of old louis’ ramblings (the ones where she kept trying to hint at something, only to go uuuaaargh im dying, blaaargh each time…you know the ones) and much more besides.

i think i can feel another dan didio rant coming on…

>> the real solution to this problem is for editorilal to get their collective heads out of their collective @$$es and not schedule the damn things untill they have the majority of them in the can. It’s idiotic for both to not leave their creators plenty of time to insure they do the best work possible and on time. If Phil Jimminez and Steve McNiven can’t get the work in quickly enough, then you push the damn “event” back untill they get ahead. Simple.

Not sure what happened to my reply there – it just kind of winked away. Anyway, I was about to say that the real problem is the lack of any kind of bench strength for the publishers, to the extent that they think readers won’t sit still for a substitute writer or artist if the first team goes down. What, like these comic books (INFINITE CRISIS, CIVIL WAR) aren’t just paint-by-numbers sketches of stories to begin with?

It was certainly the best comic book on the stands when it was being published (yeah, damning with faint praise, but still).

It was?

And while isolationist countries usually neglect their neighbors, they’re also usually pretty damn poor. I’d be happier with the current handling of Wakanda if it were presented as a straightforward fantasy instead of being mingled with faux-realism (it’s a super-rich hidden paradise filled with glowing Kirbytech and an endless supply of magical superminerals – and the neocons want to take it over!).

Yeah, that’s my problem. If they want to just be fantastical, that’s totally cool with me. But they want to be fantastical while being realistic – and that just doesn’t work.

“Get it right the first time. Its one thing to have multiple editions (magazine, HC, SC, Digest, etc.) but to have a content change from one to the other that goes beyond covers and extras seems wrong. Especially when it includes adding pages. They didn’t add an epilouge or something like that, they added fight scenes and story-moments. Thats not cool.”

Y’know, people keep saying this and making out that its such a crime against the reader….And yet, Bone went through three revamps where Jeff Smith did exactly the same thing and no-one cared.

“In any event, the real solution to this problem is for editorilal to get their collective heads out of their collective @$$es and not schedule the damn things untill they have the majority of them in the can. It’s idiotic for both to not leave their creators plenty of time to insure they do the best work possible and on time. If Phil Jimminez and Steve McNiven can’t get the work in quickly enough, then you push the damn “event” back untill they get ahead. Simple.”
Phil Jimenez talks about the problems he had with keeping to the schedule….too much reference materials to study. He thinks he needed another six months for studying character reference and what not.

And don’t forget, that’s probably six months where you aren’t doing any other work or getting paid.

“he more I read it, the more i’m questioning exactly why these omissions were left out in the first place. the big jazzy fight scene spreads, i can kinda understand…but theres a number of text inserts that basically alter the entire tone of what (to me) IC is all about”

A lot of the dialogue changes are more for clarity than anything else and that’s not something you can anticipate.

I work in animation and come across the same sort of story problems. And it can be the simplest thing in the world, like needing extra dialogue or an extra set up scene. The problem, though, is you’ve had the reasons why certain things explained to you, you’ve got the foreknowledge….And you can go over it over and over,(and over), again. Yet you don’t realise that you’ve missed a key ingredient, that can makes the whole scene confusing, because you can see it with your “mind’s eye”, but people without those explanations and foreknowledge can’t.

I thought the death of Lois was the best part of the original story. Unlike practically every other scene in the series, it had some actual emotion behind it. Her last words, “With all your powers, with everything you saw and did… …you still never…”, while not brilliant, had some dramatic value. The change gets rid of the pathos of the moment and turns Lois into just another source of exposition. IMHO.

y’know, that’s a dead brilliant photoshop challenge you just posted…

We just got it in at work and I thumbed through it. Specifically to that Wonder Woman change in issue one, because reading the change here, it seemed really significant. And it was.

When I first read the issue, I read the lines as:
Wonder Woman: “What did you think I was going to do?”
As in “I was going to cleave him in half with my sword. Duh.” Apparently this was not the way to read it? She meant to pin him to the floor? Okay.

Except that in the art, she clearly about to cut through Mongul’s head like a watermelon. It’s a way of pinning him to the floor, sure, but not the most non-lethal way.

So what’s the deal? I’m not really sure I believe that Johns’ script was so vague that Jimenez drew her giving a fatal blow by accident — He posted excerpts of the script on his WizardUniverse.com column and it’s pretty specific about what level of gore he wants in it (hint: a lot).

Did they decide afterwards that, hey, Wonder Woman killing Max Lord is a pretty reasonable and justifiable action for some, but deciding to bisect Mongul while he’s unconscious is sorta dishonorable? Because it is, but that’s something they probably should have figured out first. And I don’t mind the fact that they changed it but they probably shoulda touched up the panel too.

Just my two cents.

I agree, the WW edit was pretty stupid. Some of the changes work brilliantly, but there are some that seem to completely contradict the action in panel.

Mongol shoots first!

Batman IS Tim Drake’s father!

It’s my opinion that Infinate Crisis changed direction mid-story and these changes are to make the read a bit more consistant the entire way through. I have no problem with it, really.. anything to make it more readable is a good one.

But I think that would answer the question posed by folks who are scratching their heads wondering why the series feels different as a whole.

Y’know, people keep saying this and making out that its such a crime against the reader….And yet, Bone went through three revamps where Jeff Smith did exactly the same thing and no-one cared.

And Bone’s readership is what compared to Infinite Crisis?

No offense, but some of these go beyond changes for clarity. Indeed, the changes with regard to Earth-2 change the meaning and direction of the entire project. They contradict what we were told in the story and what we were told repeatedly by DC Editorial (no multiverse, no Earth-2). The place to lay the groundwork to bring back Earth-2 was not to change the IC collection but to do so in the book where Earth-2 will reappear (presumably, considering JLA #0, in JLA).

But Dweeze, the JLA title is kind of buisy right now, with three issues of the holy trinity sitting around and voting on members. That subplot probably won’t wrap up until issue 5 or so and whose to say if they’ll have room for the Earth-2 plot by then. They might want to order pizza and that’s a 6 issue story arc right there!

“And Bone’s readership is what compared to Infinite Crisis?”

A heck of a lot more for one thing.

The first 20 issues went through multiple printings and a series of paperbacks that went through multiple printings.
Enough so that they were repackaged the series as both hardcovers and softcovers that carried the banner “Sold in over 30 countries”. These are where the first revamp happened when Smith expanded the story in some sections with additional art, changed dialogue and scenes shifted.
Both HC and TPB’s were continiously in print for about 8 years before being replaced by the one volume edition, which was again revamped with with additional art, changed dialogue and scenes shifted. The first printings of both sold within days of being released and second printings had to be rushed to retailers.

I haven’t seen the recoloured Scholastic printings sold in schools so I don’t know if any further revmping has happened, however, the entire Bone saga has been in print continiuosly for many years and several different formats, so, yes, I’d say it sold more than Infinite Crisis…Particularly now with the Scholastic deal.

moose n squirrel

October 12, 2006 at 5:16 pm

INFINITE CRISIS … was certainly the best comic book on the stands when it was being published

I’d ask you what you were smoking at the time, but clearly you managed to find a copy of the special, limited edition polybagged-with-a-free-vial-of-crack variant.

The whole thing just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Infinite Crisis was, for me, a huge dissapointment. It didn’t have a point.

Honestly, if the ultimate purpose of IC was to bring back Earth-2, or some form of a multiverse….. they couldn’t have written a more confusing and convoluted and disorganized story than they did.

And really…. all these dialogue changes implying the importance and existence of Earth-2???? I mean WTF? It’s like the whole Earth-2 thing was an afterthought!

Sort a like DC saying ” Oops….. oh, no big deal…. we’ll just go back and change the dialogue in IC to justify the fact that we have changed our minds again….but we won’t admit to that…. we’ll say that we always intended it to be this way.”

There is certainly evidence to the contrary.

If parts of the story of IC were to be a mystery, then one would expect that it be solved. But it would appear that DC’s answer to the mess called IC is to change the dialogue in order to make the Earth-2 connection more clear.

But why not do it that way in the first place?

Is this DC’s new commercial policy? Write a big event story that suggests one direction for a story…. but then change that very same story when the trade comes out.

It’s looks like DC wanted the Earth-2 revelation to come out with Justice League #1…. and so they hid the fact in the original pages of IC. And now that the cat’s out of the bag, they want to change the content of IC to make reference to Earth-2???

My god what a disaster.

The mess that IC has become is truly sad. Clearly it was a rush job both in the writing and the art…. and all to justify meeting a deadline date for the first issue of “52″. It really makes one appreciate Marvel’s decision to delay the shipping of many of their titles so that they could do Civil War justice.

Over time, the creative disaster and giant F-U to fans that has defined DC’s handling of IC will undoubtedly be gradually forgotten as time passes….

….. but what will not change is the fact that my memory of the experience of reading IC will never be redeemed. For me it was terrible and the knowledge that they have backtracked on both art and dialogue only magnifies the creative failure (albeit commercial success).

Paperghost said:
“Question: was it ever explained why the new blue beetle was able to see brother eye? or how booster knew he’d be able to do this? That’s been bugging me – ahaha – for ages.”

Blue Beetle #7 explains why he could see Brother Eye. I won’t spoil it, but it has to do with the Scarab Beetle’s true origins.

As for IC, reading it in a ‘script’ format like this, I realize for the first time just how horrible the dialogue is. Cheesy as hell. Ugh, I’m glad I decided to not double dip and buy the hardcover…

“For tomorrow!” just about made me cry angry man tears of sadness. Bah.

thanks for the beetle heads up though :)

I hate finding this out–because now I do have to buy the f’ing hardcover, since I’m trying to compile a reference work on IC (among other things) and need to see the changes first-hand.

Wonder if the softcover will be the same as the hardcover, or if they’ll change it further? “What did you think I was going to do? I was going to give him this free souvenir sword for visiting the Justice League satellite!”

And I already did the “X shoots first” joke months ago, when this was first announced. :)

I’m waiting for the ultra mega mega edition where they stitch in all the mini series and countdown along with any other relevant stuffage. THAT, i’d pay for. i think.

You know, it’s kind of funny. Me and a friend were joking about how the Guardians can’t seem to do anything right the first time (Manhunters, Parallax, GL Corps, etc.), and thinking about it, it seems like the DC heroes as a whole can’t, either (two Crises to get it right?). Maybe they’re just an extention of their creators!

Where in JLA #1 were there hints dropped about Earth 2 coming back? I hope it wasn’t something obvious. I think maybe I was just too bored reading it to notice anything like that.

JLA #0, not #1.

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