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		<title>By: entzauberung</title>
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		<dc:creator>entzauberung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get this map of Latveria? All the ones IÂ´ve seen places it somewhere in the Balkans. (Your map makes more sense though, as most things and people in Latveria seems to have German names).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did you get this map of Latveria? All the ones IÂ´ve seen places it somewhere in the Balkans. (Your map makes more sense though, as most things and people in Latveria seems to have German names).</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t get the fanboy hatred for Hudlin&#039;s Black Panther. What&#039;s wrong with a book&#039;s hero being a super-competent badass? Hell, it&#039;s worth $3 a month just to find out &lt;b&gt;how&lt;/b&gt; he&#039;s going to beat the unbeatable guys every time. That&#039;s cool. That&#039;s exciting. At a time when my budget has me dropping books like Tyson in the third, BP has earned a solidly secure spot on my pull-list.

They did Batman like that for a decade, but no one&#039;s imposing an idiotic emotional handicap on T&#039;Challa. They break his back and replace him with a kid, though, I&#039;m out. 

And the first issue of the new series is the best travel guide ANY comicbook country has received.

I wouldn&#039;t put Khandaq on the list, not because of some grudge I have against Johns (because that would be petty and childish) but because the country doesn&#039;t have much going for it. Johns gave us a good idea for a country, and it&#039;s being picked up on now, but since the story wasn&#039;t set in Khandaq, we haven&#039;t gotten to see much of it.

Sierra Gordo is definitely owed a spot somewhere on that list. Maybe an honorable mention? 5 1/2?

I&#039;d almost include Symkaria, since it borders Latveria but is at constant peace with it, and its entire national economy rests entirely on Silver Sable&#039;s bounty hunting skills. Now THAT&#039;s a goofy gem of an idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don't get the fanboy hatred for Hudlin's Black Panther. What's wrong with a book's hero being a super-competent badass? Hell, it's worth $3 a month just to find out <b>how</b> he's going to beat the unbeatable guys every time. That's cool. That's exciting. At a time when my budget has me dropping books like Tyson in the third, BP has earned a solidly secure spot on my pull-list.</p>
<p>They did Batman like that for a decade, but no one's imposing an idiotic emotional handicap on T'Challa. They break his back and replace him with a kid, though, I'm out. </p>
<p>And the first issue of the new series is the best travel guide ANY comicbook country has received.</p>
<p>I wouldn't put Khandaq on the list, not because of some grudge I have against Johns (because that would be petty and childish) but because the country doesn't have much going for it. Johns gave us a good idea for a country, and it's being picked up on now, but since the story wasn't set in Khandaq, we haven't gotten to see much of it.</p>
<p>Sierra Gordo is definitely owed a spot somewhere on that list. Maybe an honorable mention? 5 1/2?</p>
<p>I'd almost include Symkaria, since it borders Latveria but is at constant peace with it, and its entire national economy rests entirely on Silver Sable's bounty hunting skills. Now THAT's a goofy gem of an idea...</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Australia is fictional, then I&#039;m fictional.

If that&#039;s the case I want you all too protest to the company publishing the adventures I appear in and get me a better plotter, who gives me a new direction.

(Not Judd Winnick though).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Australia is fictional, then I'm fictional.</p>
<p>If that's the case I want you all too protest to the company publishing the adventures I appear in and get me a better plotter, who gives me a new direction.</p>
<p>(Not Judd Winnick though).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Kashtan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Kashtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The country of Rio Frio was made up for Love &amp; Rockets. I think there was also another made-up country in Jaime&#039;s early stories, but I&#039;m too lazy to check.

Palomar doesn&#039;t really count as a fictional country, because Beto has never identified what country it&#039;s in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country of Rio Frio was made up for Love &amp; Rockets. I think there was also another made-up country in Jaime's early stories, but I'm too lazy to check.</p>
<p>Palomar doesn't really count as a fictional country, because Beto has never identified what country it's in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHen Marvel UK reprinted all the Silver Age material in the 70s, they were very sensitive about the anti-communist stuff (and there was tons of it), and tried to tone it down by changing all references to Russia to &quot;Bodavia&quot;.

That&#039;s the best fictional country in comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHen Marvel UK reprinted all the Silver Age material in the 70s, they were very sensitive about the anti-communist stuff (and there was tons of it), and tried to tone it down by changing all references to Russia to "Bodavia".</p>
<p>That's the best fictional country in comics.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the Savage Land not count because it wasn&#039;t a country? Because that&#039;s a pretty important piece of real estate...but it has no ruler.

And what about Aquiria?

...you know. Steve Engelhart&#039;s run on Fantastic Four, home of the villain Fasaud......

...never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the Savage Land not count because it wasn't a country? Because that's a pretty important piece of real estate...but it has no ruler.</p>
<p>And what about Aquiria?</p>
<p>...you know. Steve Engelhart's run on Fantastic Four, home of the villain Fasaud......</p>
<p>...never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonar&#039;s country was Modora...

Then there&#039;s also Vlatavia, home of Count Vertigo and Markovia, home of Geo Force from the Outsiders.  I wonder if they were each elected into the European Union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonar's country was Modora...</p>
<p>Then there's also Vlatavia, home of Count Vertigo and Markovia, home of Geo Force from the Outsiders.  I wonder if they were each elected into the European Union.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You donâ€™t critisize Egypt for whats happening in Sudan do you?&quot;

Er, actually, yes, when you consider how obstructionist many of the African Union powers have been, for various reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"You donâ€™t critisize Egypt for whats happening in Sudan do you?"</p>
<p>Er, actually, yes, when you consider how obstructionist many of the African Union powers have been, for various reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: eqdoktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>eqdoktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia&#039;s inclusion in this list makes it a classic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia's inclusion in this list makes it a classic!</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moose n squirrel-

I disagree that Wakanda&#039;s history has to involve being ravaged by colonial powers.  Ethiopia famously avoided and defeated colonization during the scramble for Africa.  Now it has had to deal with poverty and other issues that weren&#039;t the result of European powers, but its own internal leaders and problems (that have been influenced by external forces, but that gets complex).  But I don&#039;t see why a fictional African nation can&#039;t work off the idea of remaining independent and be a resource-rich, technologically-advanced state.  

I don&#039;t read the Black Panther comic so I don&#039;t know if this is/was explored, but it would be interesting to see if Wakanda has/had similar or even greater influence than Ethiopia has had in Africa and abroad.  For instance, during African decolonization, several African countries adopted the colors of the Ethiopian flag in their own, Rastafarianism obviously formed around worship of Haile Selassie, and the African Union is headquarted in Addis Ababa, amongst other things.  Even if Wakanda is isolationist, I would expect it would be very influential to other African countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moose n squirrel-</p>
<p>I disagree that Wakanda's history has to involve being ravaged by colonial powers.  Ethiopia famously avoided and defeated colonization during the scramble for Africa.  Now it has had to deal with poverty and other issues that weren't the result of European powers, but its own internal leaders and problems (that have been influenced by external forces, but that gets complex).  But I don't see why a fictional African nation can't work off the idea of remaining independent and be a resource-rich, technologically-advanced state.  </p>
<p>I don't read the Black Panther comic so I don't know if this is/was explored, but it would be interesting to see if Wakanda has/had similar or even greater influence than Ethiopia has had in Africa and abroad.  For instance, during African decolonization, several African countries adopted the colors of the Ethiopian flag in their own, Rastafarianism obviously formed around worship of Haile Selassie, and the African Union is headquarted in Addis Ababa, amongst other things.  Even if Wakanda is isolationist, I would expect it would be very influential to other African countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think an interesting premise would be if Wakanda was just like every other African country &lt;i&gt;except&lt;/i&gt; it had kept the &quot;first world&quot; at bay. With that one essential change, see how it affects the continent at large. That would be interesting. Instead, Wakanda bears no resemblance to any extant African nation and may as well be on Mars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think an interesting premise would be if Wakanda was just like every other African country <i>except</i> it had kept the "first world" at bay. With that one essential change, see how it affects the continent at large. That would be interesting. Instead, Wakanda bears no resemblance to any extant African nation and may as well be on Mars.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, sorry - that should be &#039;Bangalla&#039; - I misspelt it (two different ways!) in my post, above.

Stone the crows, mate!

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sorry - that should be 'Bangalla' - I misspelt it (two different ways!) in my post, above.</p>
<p>Stone the crows, mate!</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Chrism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long before Wakanda there was Bengala, the peaceful, prosperous, democratic African state that is home to the Phantom.

Bangala is interesting because it has changed over the course of the Phantom comic&#039;s long publication to reflect the times. At first (this is going back to the 1930s and 40s) it was a colony (originally an island near Java, IIRC), and the Phantom&#039;s adventures often involved members of the colonial military. It&#039;s all very vague as to who the colonial power is (presumably Britain or the US), but the reader can fill in these blanks themselves. Nowdays Bangala is a model democracy, but there&#039;s still the occasion coup or invasion that the Phantom and his pal, President Luanda, have to put down.

Bengala definitely deserves the spot occupied by Australia on the list. 

(I might add I say that as an Australian. True, there is a heavily fictional Australia that occasionally turns up in comics - ie the Australia that produced Captain &#039;yer bike!&#039; Boomerang - but more recently the version we&#039;ve seen, eg in 52, is only lightly fictional. That is to say, lots of people do actually say &#039;g&#039;day&#039; and &#039;mate&#039;. )

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long before Wakanda there was Bengala, the peaceful, prosperous, democratic African state that is home to the Phantom.</p>
<p>Bangala is interesting because it has changed over the course of the Phantom comic's long publication to reflect the times. At first (this is going back to the 1930s and 40s) it was a colony (originally an island near Java, IIRC), and the Phantom's adventures often involved members of the colonial military. It's all very vague as to who the colonial power is (presumably Britain or the US), but the reader can fill in these blanks themselves. Nowdays Bangala is a model democracy, but there's still the occasion coup or invasion that the Phantom and his pal, President Luanda, have to put down.</p>
<p>Bengala definitely deserves the spot occupied by Australia on the list. </p>
<p>(I might add I say that as an Australian. True, there is a heavily fictional Australia that occasionally turns up in comics - ie the Australia that produced Captain 'yer bike!' Boomerang - but more recently the version we've seen, eg in 52, is only lightly fictional. That is to say, lots of people do actually say 'g'day' and 'mate'. )</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: stephen cade</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen cade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kooey Kooey Kooey was robbed!&quot;

Agreed--in spades!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Kooey Kooey Kooey was robbed!"</p>
<p>Agreed--in spades!</p>
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		<title>By: moose n squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>moose n squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the post Loren links to is pretty great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the post Loren links to is pretty great.</p>
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		<title>By: moose n squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>moose n squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Iâ€™d prefer it the other way, written as a more realistic African country that just happens to be doing well because it avoided being ravaged by colonial powers.&lt;/em&gt;

But the reality of Africa is that it &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; been ravaged by colonial powers. Any realistic presentation of Wakanda would have to be as a nation that has had to overcome a history of European imperialism and the corrupt local governments left in its wake. Now, I&#039;d be interested in reading a comic like that, but the fact is Hudlin isn&#039;t remotely interested in writing it. He&#039;s writing wish-fulfillment dressed up as gritty realism. That grotesque stylistic clash is what irritates me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Iâ€™d prefer it the other way, written as a more realistic African country that just happens to be doing well because it avoided being ravaged by colonial powers.</em></p>
<p>But the reality of Africa is that it <em>has</em> been ravaged by colonial powers. Any realistic presentation of Wakanda would have to be as a nation that has had to overcome a history of European imperialism and the corrupt local governments left in its wake. Now, I'd be interested in reading a comic like that, but the fact is Hudlin isn't remotely interested in writing it. He's writing wish-fulfillment dressed up as gritty realism. That grotesque stylistic clash is what irritates me.</p>
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		<title>By: del gorky</title>
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		<dc:creator>del gorky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody loves Markovia like I do.  Must stop typing to cry now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody loves Markovia like I do.  Must stop typing to cry now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, Loren.</description>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the Savage Land is a country.  It&#039;s just a place.

But if it counts somehow, then I at least want to give a nod to Dinosaur Island.

As for Wakanda, I&#039;ve had my fair share to say in the past elsewhere.  And the realism/fantasy conflict was the subject of what might be my favorite bit: &lt;a href=&quot;http://comicfacts.blogspot.com/2005/08/guns-germs-and-vibranium.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guns, Germs, and Vibranium&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the Savage Land is a country.  It's just a place.</p>
<p>But if it counts somehow, then I at least want to give a nod to Dinosaur Island.</p>
<p>As for Wakanda, I've had my fair share to say in the past elsewhere.  And the realism/fantasy conflict was the subject of what might be my favorite bit: <a href="http://comicfacts.blogspot.com/2005/08/guns-germs-and-vibranium.html" rel="nofollow">Guns, Germs, and Vibranium</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those GI Joe fans among us, what about Sierra Gordo?  That country was the home of many great Joe stories from the Hamma run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those GI Joe fans among us, what about Sierra Gordo?  That country was the home of many great Joe stories from the Hamma run.</p>
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