Comments on: Saturday's Scattershot Sequels http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:10:58 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11431 John Seavey Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:21:20 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11431 The easiest way to get the price down on comics? Sell more copies. The more copies you sell, the lower the profit per copy has to be to make the same amount of money. This all gets back to the point I've been practically screaming in everyone's face for months now, that comic books have to find ways to sell themselves outside of the Direct Market, because (all together now) the current comics marketing plan is to wait for someone to walk into a store demanding their product, then sell it to them. The easiest way to get the price down on comics? Sell more copies. The more copies you sell, the lower the profit per copy has to be to make the same amount of money. This all gets back to the point I've been practically screaming in everyone's face for months now, that comic books have to find ways to sell themselves outside of the Direct Market, because (all together now) the current comics marketing plan is to wait for someone to walk into a store demanding their product, then sell it to them.

]]> By: veghead http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11215 veghead Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:46:17 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11215 I thought the first episode of Heroes was a disaster, the second was brilliant,and the others just so-so. There's nothing new for comic fans, but at least it's better than Misfits of Science. I'm just happy to have something to watch on Monday nights after, what, a decade long drought. I thought the first episode of Heroes was a disaster, the second was brilliant,and the others just so-so. There's nothing new for comic fans, but at least it's better than Misfits of Science.

I'm just happy to have something to watch on Monday nights after, what, a decade long drought.

]]> By: Greg Hatcher http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11196 Greg Hatcher Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:17:56 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11196 <strong>Steve Flack said …What book was that reprint of “Legion of Monsters” and “Spider-Man meets Brother VooDoo”? I feel I need it.</strong> Marvel Milestones. It actually has that same Marvel Premiere cover. Steve Flack said …What book was that reprint of “Legion of Monsters” and “Spider-Man meets Brother VooDoo”? I feel I need it.

Marvel Milestones. It actually has that same Marvel Premiere cover.

]]> By: Steve Flack http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11184 Steve Flack Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:55:07 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11184 What book was that reprint of "Legion of Monsters" and "Spider-Man meets Brother VooDoo"? I feel I need it. -Steve! What book was that reprint of "Legion of Monsters" and "Spider-Man meets Brother VooDoo"? I feel I need it.

-Steve!

]]> By: David C http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11161 David C Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:58:03 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11161 I was pleasantly shocked to see that Legion of Monsters reprint. I had that book when I was a kid, and always hoped we'd see more Legion of Monsters stories, but I guess that never happened. I was pleasantly shocked to see that Legion of Monsters reprint. I had that book when I was a kid, and always hoped we'd see more Legion of Monsters stories, but I guess that never happened.

]]> By: Grant http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11149 Grant Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:26:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11149 "As an actual piece of FICTION, I’m not in love with it but I don’t hate it either, I just want it to, you know, get on with it. But I am endlessly fascinated with the way it’s apparently being marketed, it’s so clearly aimed right at us. Rolled out at the San Diego Con. Online graphic novel tie-in. Geek shout-outs and namechecking in the dialogue. For fans of my generation, being so shamelessly courted and sucked up to by a major TV network is frankly disconcerting." Maybe that's why I don't like it. It feels like I'm being relentlessly pandered to. That and the shoddy writing and acting. "As an actual piece of FICTION, I’m not in love with it but I don’t hate it either, I just want it to, you know, get on with it. But I am endlessly fascinated with the way it’s apparently being marketed, it’s so clearly aimed right at us. Rolled out at the San Diego Con. Online graphic novel tie-in. Geek shout-outs and namechecking in the dialogue. For fans of my generation, being so shamelessly courted and sucked up to by a major TV network is frankly disconcerting."

Maybe that's why I don't like it. It feels like I'm being relentlessly pandered to.

That and the shoddy writing and acting.

]]> By: Greg Hatcher http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11108 Greg Hatcher Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:49:02 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11108 <b>Grant said …"Am I the only comic fan that thinks Heroes kind of sucks?"</b> I imagine now that you've gone ahead and asked there will be lots more chiming in. I don't actually think it SUCKS. I wish it would move faster and get somewhere. Which is something I say about a lot of mainstream superhero books, which led to the a-ha moment that, my God, this really is modern comics on TV. As an actual piece of FICTION, I'm not in love with it but I don't hate it either, I just want it to, you know, get on with it. But I am endlessly fascinated with the way it's apparently being marketed, it's so clearly aimed right at us. Rolled out at the San Diego Con. Online graphic novel tie-in. Geek shout-outs and namechecking in the dialogue. For fans of my generation, being so shamelessly courted and sucked up to by a major TV network is frankly disconcerting. Grant said …"Am I the only comic fan that thinks Heroes kind of sucks?"

I imagine now that you've gone ahead and asked there will be lots more chiming in.

I don't actually think it SUCKS. I wish it would move faster and get somewhere. Which is something I say about a lot of mainstream superhero books, which led to the a-ha moment that, my God, this really is modern comics on TV.

As an actual piece of FICTION, I'm not in love with it but I don't hate it either, I just want it to, you know, get on with it. But I am endlessly fascinated with the way it's apparently being marketed, it's so clearly aimed right at us. Rolled out at the San Diego Con. Online graphic novel tie-in. Geek shout-outs and namechecking in the dialogue. For fans of my generation, being so shamelessly courted and sucked up to by a major TV network is frankly disconcerting.

]]> By: Paul Newell http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11105 Paul Newell Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:52:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11105 Legion of Monsters? Bah! DC had the Legion of SUPER-Monsters in 1963. Legion of Monsters? Bah!

DC had the Legion of SUPER-Monsters in 1963.

]]> By: Grant http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11093 Grant Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:21:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11093 Am I the only comic fan that thinks Heroes kind of sucks? Am I the only comic fan that thinks Heroes kind of sucks?

]]> By: Ian http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11091 Ian Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:10:08 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11091 "randy said … Just a goofy thought… Everybody seems to think the price of single issues is inappropriate for the amount of material we are getting these days, especially with decompressed stories. Why not go back to pulp paper and four-color presses for the floppies and do high-end printing on the graphic novels? " Easy, because sales would plummet. You would have to have some sort of illegal collusion to get all the companies to do it, and if you couldn't get them to do that, then sales on the cheap books would go way down because the lower price would mean fewer orders on the part of the retailers (because they would be making less off of them). Also, you'd have to recolor or possibly reink pages if you're going from one-format to the other. It would just add more cost. Also, the reason why they don't do more ads has been explained time and time again. They need companies interested in buying the ads. Remember when Marvel did more ads about a year ago and how many people complained that there were ads every other page? That didn't work out too well. Oh, and the TV=magazines (not 'floppies') and DVDs=TPBs, doesn't quite work because you have to factor in reruns, other channel airings, iTunes, and syndication. "randy said …

Just a goofy thought…

Everybody seems to think the price of single issues is inappropriate for the amount of material we are getting these days, especially with decompressed stories. Why not go back to pulp paper and four-color presses for the floppies and do high-end printing on the graphic novels? "

Easy, because sales would plummet. You would have to have some sort of illegal collusion to get all the companies to do it, and if you couldn't get them to do that, then sales on the cheap books would go way down because the lower price would mean fewer orders on the part of the retailers (because they would be making less off of them). Also, you'd have to recolor or possibly reink pages if you're going from one-format to the other. It would just add more cost.

Also, the reason why they don't do more ads has been explained time and time again. They need companies interested in buying the ads. Remember when Marvel did more ads about a year ago and how many people complained that there were ads every other page? That didn't work out too well.

Oh, and the TV=magazines (not 'floppies') and DVDs=TPBs, doesn't quite work because you have to factor in reruns, other channel airings, iTunes, and syndication.

]]> By: Lynxara http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11085 Lynxara Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:05:47 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11085 "Spider-Man! He's DEFYING us!" It's not that Moondog is about to slit that woman's throat that bothers Brother Voodoo. It's not even fact that Moondog is giving voodoo a bad name by using his power to pick on a politically explosive target like an upper-class white women. No, Moondog won't stop when a pair of superheroes tell him to knock it off. Uppity bastard! "Spider-Man! He's DEFYING us!"

It's not that Moondog is about to slit that woman's throat that bothers Brother Voodoo. It's not even fact that Moondog is giving voodoo a bad name by using his power to pick on a politically explosive target like an upper-class white women.

No, Moondog won't stop when a pair of superheroes tell him to knock it off. Uppity bastard!

]]> By: randy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11083 randy Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:06:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11083 Just a goofy thought... Everybody seems to think the price of single issues is inappropriate for the amount of material we are getting these days, especially with decompressed stories. Why not go back to pulp paper and four-color presses for the floppies and do high-end printing on the graphic novels? Just a goofy thought...

Everybody seems to think the price of single issues is inappropriate for the amount of material we are getting these days, especially with decompressed stories. Why not go back to pulp paper and four-color presses for the floppies and do high-end printing on the graphic novels?

]]> By: Bryan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11069 Bryan Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:38:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11069 I wonder if that Spider-Man/Brother VooDoo cover is <i>the</i> commission Fred Hembeck is anxiously waiting to do. I wonder if that Spider-Man/Brother VooDoo cover is the commission Fred Hembeck is anxiously waiting to do.

]]> By: carpboy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11040 carpboy Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:18:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11040 I came <i>this</i> close to picking up a copy of Essential Tomb of Dracula v2 a few months back, hoping that in it's reprinting of Giant-Size Dracula #1, it would reprint the Stan Lee-written five-pager <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/1631980.html" rel="nofollow">"On With the Dance"</a>. Sadly, it was not to be. Hell, I'd love to see an Essential Atlas Horror. I came this close to picking up a copy of Essential Tomb of Dracula v2 a few months back, hoping that in it's reprinting of Giant-Size Dracula #1, it would reprint the Stan Lee-written five-pager "On With the Dance". Sadly, it was not to be.

Hell, I'd love to see an Essential Atlas Horror.

]]> By: DCD http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-11037 DCD Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:19:06 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/10/21/saturdays-scattershot-sequels/#comment-11037 Wow, great cover. I really think Brother Overdramatically State The Obvious needed a larger role in Civil War. "Captain America! Iron Man is strafing us with DEADLY RAYS!" "I CAN...Yes. I can see that. Thank you." Wow, great cover. I really think Brother Overdramatically State The Obvious needed a larger role in Civil War.

"Captain America! Iron Man is strafing us with DEADLY RAYS!"

"I CAN...Yes. I can see that. Thank you."

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