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YouTube Can Be Good – 11/10

Another week, another two neat comic-related YouTube videos.

First, here is the latest trailer for Spider-Man 3.

Wow, pretty darn cool looking!!

Okay, the connection to comic books in tenuous here, but consarnit, I likes me some Stephen Lynch!

If you have any suggestions for future clips, let me know!

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I’m rather bored by superhero trailers that insist on that stupid “Booom” sound effect with a quick cut of action (with a fade to black), then repeat a whole bunch of times. Like we’re supposed to go OH WOW! rather than oh wow, that’s the millionth time I’ve seen someone do that.

Film looks good, though I’m seriously NOT impressed with the movie cliche that demands a bad guy absolutely HAS to be responsible for the death of a superdude’s relative. It was an interesting twist for the Batman movie back in, oh, 1989 but I can’t say it cuts the mustard these days.

” I’m seriously NOT impressed with the movie cliche that demands a bad guy absolutely HAS to be responsible for the death of a superdude’s relative”

Well with the black suit and Venom seeming to be the vocal point so far, in addition to the showdown between Harry and Peter, I suppose Sandman would just seem kind of boring in comparison to all that. So they had to add some more dramatic impact to the fights, because really, how many times can MJ be captured?

This isn’t directed at anyone in particular on these boards, but I do feel that too many people get all pissy when something in the films isn’t a complete recreation of what Stan and Jack (Ditko, Roy Thomas, Chris Claremont, or any other creator who’s done anything signifigant in comics before) did in the past. This is a film. Completly different medium with it’s own rules. The Spiderman movies are simply Sam Raimi’s interpretation of who/what Spiderman is. As long as it hits the core points of the character (power and responsibilty, tragedy, guilt, everyman quality) and plays within the rules already established within that universe I’m fine with whatever they do.

All that being said, I’ve been hard since I saw the trailer on Thursday.

“This isn’t directed at anyone in particular on these boards, but I do feel that too many people get all pissy when something in the films isn’t a complete recreation of what Stan and Jack (Ditko, Roy Thomas, Chris Claremont, or any other creator who’s done anything signifigant in comics before) did in the past. This is a film. Completly different medium with it’s own rules.”

…but with the “shock” superbadguy-killed-yo-momma/sister/whoever plot rehash, surely this isn’t so much a case of following the movie-world rules as it is hawking a tired cliche? for some reason, film-makers don’t seem to be able to trust an audience to feel grief when something bad happens in a movie via a random, non-identifiable source. so they feel the need to ram it down your throat with a twist that, really, is pretty contrived. what, the perfectly anonymous boob from the first film – that audiences had no problem with – suddenly turns out to be *this* guy over here and oh look, he just happens to be able to now turn into sand so we can have lots of “uncle ben!wrrragh! feel my left hook and watch me emote about him!” stuff.

In this case, I don’t think its so much about the film makers not sticking to the rules laid down of the comics, as it is about a superlame (and massively contrived) plot “twist”.

First off, this trailer looks SUH-WEEEEEEET. After being so underwhelemed by the Superman Returns trailer, I’m glad to have a superhero movie to look forward to again.

Second, I think the twist wwith Sandman is half decent as it was explained to me. I heard that the crook that killed Uncle Ben will turn out to be a lackey of Sandman, so it isn’t so much that Sandman is directly responsible for Ben’s death but rather is an indirect cause.

Still cliched, but not quite as bad. I have to say though, I really do think more and more that Maguire was horribly miscast. As good an actor as he is, I never ever feel like I’m watching Spider-Man, especially with that creaky voice.

“I heard that the crook that killed Uncle Ben will turn out to be a lackey of Sandman, so it isn’t so much that Sandman is directly responsible for Ben’s death but rather is an indirect cause.”

now THAT is about a zillion % better than if it somehow turned out the actual killer himself had been Sandman. I still think they should leave the uncle ben thing out of the superhero battle stuff though, as they were nailing it pretty damn good in the exchanges between Aunt May and Peter in Part 2. Throwing a villain into the mix seems somewhat unnecessary.

As for Maguire, the only time he really annoyed me in the previous films was in 2, where he’s running across the rooftops (just before he does his “Matrix leap”). The face he pulls – oh man, its just fugly. They should go back and edit it so you see the back of his head instead, because that straining, sweaty grimace put me off my dinner.

I HATE Stephen Lynch. No comedian should laugh more at their own jokes than the audience does.

This colors my view of your opinion on Joe Quesada’s band.

Stephen Lynch definitly lost comedian cred when he took the lead in the Wedding Singer on Broadway.

My only problem with the Spider-Man movies is Kirsten Dunst playing Mary Jane Watson. She doesn’t have the look or personality of MJ. I can’t think of somebody off the top of my head that would be better, but I’d have rather they went with Gwen Stacy in the first movie if they couldn’t find a good cast for MJ.

Mary Jane has a personality? Other than “wife?”

I never really thought she added much to the comics besides calling people Tiger and hurling around large quantities of forced spunkiness anyway.

Before Gwen died she was awesome, a great romantic foil, and alot of her dialogue totally stole the show. Pretty narcissistic, somewhat amoral, aspiring homewrecker, superficial and infectious…a great supporting character. Problem is, once Gwen died and the writers realized there was a gaping hole without her, Mary Jane got watered down and reformed into a pseudo-Gwen. The real Mary Jane’s been dead for decades. Now in every incarnation she’s just a weird amalgam of Gwen and the original MJ, be it in the movies, the cartoons and especially in Ultimate Spidey were she’s almost all Gwen and the only things she has in common with the original MJ are hair color and knowledge of Pete’s secret ID.

“I have to say though, I really do think more and more that Maguire was horribly miscast. As good an actor as he is, I never ever feel like I’m watching Spider-Man, especially with that creaky voice.”

I couldn’t disagree more. I think Toby Macguire is perfect casting for Spider-Man.

And the guy who plays Harry Osborn is perfect casting for if they ever do a James Dean bio-pic

Dan

James Franco already played James Dean in a biopic, you can find it at blockbuster.

For me Tobey Maguire doesn’t look anything like Pete, but that’s excusable. The voice is what really makes him wrong for the role in my opinion. It’s not a good wisecracking, snappy patter voice. I think it may be part of the reason why the movie writers give Spidey so few jokes to crack.

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