Comments on: Birds of Prey #100 - Opening Up The Game http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:18:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jbrnilpbza http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-114596 jbrnilpbza Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:38:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-114596 Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! rukekxujpfxksy Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! rukekxujpfxksy

]]> By: Lex http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15538 Lex Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:33:18 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15538 I really enjoyed both stories. I love the new direction and I thought all the characters were great (including Sin). I really enjoyed both stories. I love the new direction and I thought all the characters were great (including Sin).

]]> By: Sean Whitmore http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15506 Sean Whitmore Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:17:35 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15506 I understand the real-world reason for it, but is there any in-story reason that Oracle chooses only female heroes for her missions? It seems kinda ridiculous. SEAN I understand the real-world reason for it, but is there any in-story reason that Oracle chooses only female heroes for her missions? It seems kinda ridiculous.

SEAN

]]> By: adam barnett http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15460 adam barnett Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:02:09 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15460 I'm a late entry in the BoP fan club, but after reading a couple of Simone TPB's, I'm hooked. This book is better than it has a right to be, and I'm lapping up every issue with a spoon like the salivating dog I am. I'm a late entry in the BoP fan club, but after reading a couple of Simone TPB's, I'm hooked. This book is better than it has a right to be, and I'm lapping up every issue with a spoon like the salivating dog I am.

]]> By: Jason http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15427 Jason Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:45:23 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15427 Maybe I'm biased, but I don't think Gail can do anything wrong. I like Sin...she's cute and a potential time bomb waiting to go off. If we wait a few years, there will probably be a brawl between her and the Crime Doctor's daughter, the one under Lady Shiva's wing. As for the new Birds, it's a good mix. We have a fan favorite in Manhunter, a Charlton-based character (Judomaster), a Fouth World chick (Big Barda, rockin' the trashy look this month), and Huntress and Lady Blackhawk retaining their roles. Is Gypsy still on the team? Maybe she's invisible. I'm guessing the annoying "Batgirl" from the past few issues is some sort of BoP-based imp. And I'm thinking the new Spy Smasher isn't an outright villian...just somebody who can give Oracle a rough time. Maybe I'm biased, but I don't think Gail can do anything wrong. I like Sin...she's cute and a potential time bomb waiting to go off. If we wait a few years, there will probably be a brawl between her and the Crime Doctor's daughter, the one under Lady Shiva's wing.

As for the new Birds, it's a good mix. We have a fan favorite in Manhunter, a Charlton-based character (Judomaster), a Fouth World chick (Big Barda, rockin' the trashy look this month), and Huntress and Lady Blackhawk retaining their roles. Is Gypsy still on the team? Maybe she's invisible. I'm guessing the annoying "Batgirl" from the past few issues is some sort of BoP-based imp. And I'm thinking the new Spy Smasher isn't an outright villian...just somebody who can give Oracle a rough time.

]]> By: Ye Olde Iowa http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15213 Ye Olde Iowa Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:56:04 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15213 No way Michael. I also loved the backup and thought it was the better of the two, though both were quite strong (I have a review up at the Newsarama review boards of the entire issue, which was my pick for book of the week). I really like the new status quo and I'm interested to see Gail write Kate Spencer/Manhunter. What really shined for me in this issue, though, was Gail and Tony Bedard's handling of Dinah in the backup. The origin and relationship between Black Canary and Green Arrow was really well done, especially with the reference to The Longbow Hunters, which could have ramifications on Dinah's new motherly role. No way Michael. I also loved the backup and thought it was the better of the two, though both were quite strong (I have a review up at the Newsarama review boards of the entire issue, which was my pick for book of the week). I really like the new status quo and I'm interested to see Gail write Kate Spencer/Manhunter. What really shined for me in this issue, though, was Gail and Tony Bedard's handling of Dinah in the backup. The origin and relationship between Black Canary and Green Arrow was really well done, especially with the reference to The Longbow Hunters, which could have ramifications on Dinah's new motherly role.

]]> By: Michael http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15150 Michael Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:47:17 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15150 I guess Andrew and I are the only two people who liked the backup. I guess Andrew and I are the only two people who liked the backup.

]]> By: Patrick Hamilton http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15131 Patrick Hamilton Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:13:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15131 Whoo-hoo! I got cool points! As for the continuity issues between BoP and Meltzer's JLA, I find it interesting that a brief point in JLA #1 was getting Ollie to babysit Roy's daughter Lian, but no one mentioned Dinah's "child." Not having read BoP, I don't know if this has been taken care of (perhaps she has a really good day/night care), but it might show a little lack of coordination between the titles. Whoo-hoo! I got cool points! As for the continuity issues between BoP and Meltzer's JLA, I find it interesting that a brief point in JLA #1 was getting Ollie to babysit Roy's daughter Lian, but no one mentioned Dinah's "child." Not having read BoP, I don't know if this has been taken care of (perhaps she has a really good day/night care), but it might show a little lack of coordination between the titles.

]]> By: R.Nav http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-15110 R.Nav Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:40:25 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-15110 I like the new status quo for the Birds. And really, anything that reminds me of M.A.S.K. is a good thing. Here's to hoping the hotel unfolds into a missle base or whatever. Actually, I'm kidding about the M.A.S.K. thing. But I really did enjoy the comic. Take it with a grain of salt, because I like Sin as well, mainly because of the burden of motherhood it gives Dinah. And yes, it doesn't sync up with Berad Metzer's JLA.. but I recall people were complaining that his last JLA story didn't exactly sync up with the rest of the DC universe either. And hey, who knows when the story actually takes place.. after all, 4 issues and the Trinity are still sitting around a table. I like the new status quo for the Birds. And really, anything that reminds me of M.A.S.K. is a good thing. Here's to hoping the hotel unfolds into a missle base or whatever.

Actually, I'm kidding about the M.A.S.K. thing. But I really did enjoy the comic. Take it with a grain of salt, because I like Sin as well, mainly because of the burden of motherhood it gives Dinah. And yes, it doesn't sync up with Berad Metzer's JLA.. but I recall people were complaining that his last JLA story didn't exactly sync up with the rest of the DC universe either. And hey, who knows when the story actually takes place.. after all, 4 issues and the Trinity are still sitting around a table.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14824 Brian Cronin Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:44:45 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14824 Yay, Patrick!! Yes, Justice League America #100 opened with a very similar opening as Birds of Prey #100, with various superheroes being offered JLA communicators. The issue also ends with a dramatic (re)introduction, which also sorta reminded me of this issue, but really, the opening was the main thing Yay, Patrick!!

Yes, Justice League America #100 opened with a very similar opening as Birds of Prey #100, with various superheroes being offered JLA communicators.

The issue also ends with a dramatic (re)introduction, which also sorta reminded me of this issue, but really, the opening was the main thing

]]> By: Conor E http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14695 Conor E Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:38:44 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14695 I agree, Dinah running around in the JLA just kills the drama of her supposed "retirement". I agree, Dinah running around in the JLA just kills the drama of her supposed "retirement".

]]> By: DanLarkin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14682 DanLarkin Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:28:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14682 I liked this issue better than the most recent bunch. I'm happy to see Barda in a book again, and this new Judomistress might be interesting for a little while. I don't mind the idea of Sin, but I find her dialogue pretty grating. Plus, after Simone eventually leaves the book, it's inevitable that she will eventually a.)be killed off b.) get kidnapped and/or c.) turn evil, and I'm not looking forward to that. Count me in favor of restoring the Ollie/Dinah relationship. It's one of the few comic book romances that actually worked to improve both characters. Green Arrow and Canary are both much more interesting when they're with each other. I liked this issue better than the most recent bunch. I'm happy to see Barda in a book again, and this new Judomistress might be interesting for a little while.

I don't mind the idea of Sin, but I find her dialogue pretty grating. Plus, after Simone eventually leaves the book, it's inevitable that she will eventually a.)be killed off b.) get kidnapped and/or c.) turn evil, and I'm not looking forward to that.

Count me in favor of restoring the Ollie/Dinah relationship. It's one of the few comic book romances that actually worked to improve both characters. Green Arrow and Canary are both much more interesting when they're with each other.

]]> By: Andrew Collins http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14664 Andrew Collins Mon, 20 Nov 2006 02:59:34 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14664 Personally, I liked the backup story a bit more than the lead, despite the inclusion of Kate Spencer/Manhunter, who's one of my favorites. The new 'villain' introduced seemed a bit too much. I thought Maria Hill already cornered the market on "Superbitch Secret Agent" over in Civil War? Though I'm holding out total judgment on her until I see more than 2-3 pages of her. But as for the back-up, I think Sin works as a nice foil for Dinah. One of the big plot points back in Mike Grell's Green Arrow was Dinah being unwilling to have children, so I think this is an interesting bit of growth for her character. And as for Dinah & Ollie getting back together, I'm all for it! Growing up in the 1970's and 80's, Green Arrow & Black Canary were as synonymous for me as Superman & Lois Lane. I always liked them as a couple. Writers just made the mistake of writing Dinah as too much of a passive girlfriend who was usually relegated to calming Ollie down from one of his rants and that was about it. Grell was one of the first writers to really show her breaking free from that mold and asserting herself more. Chuck Dixon continued that and Gail Simone has really run with developing her into her own woman. Some people may complain that putting her back in a relationship undoes some of that gained independence, but I am all the more interested to see what kind of dynamic they have now with her being much more defined. Of course, this is all just fanboy speculation right now, but that's my two cents about how I feel on the matter. :) Also, does anyone else find Dinah's stance in BoP about concentrating on family kind of contradicted by her running around with the new JLA...? Personally, I liked the backup story a bit more than the lead, despite the inclusion of Kate Spencer/Manhunter, who's one of my favorites. The new 'villain' introduced seemed a bit too much. I thought Maria Hill already cornered the market on "Superbitch Secret Agent" over in Civil War? Though I'm holding out total judgment on her until I see more than 2-3 pages of her.

But as for the back-up, I think Sin works as a nice foil for Dinah. One of the big plot points back in Mike Grell's Green Arrow was Dinah being unwilling to have children, so I think this is an interesting bit of growth for her character.

And as for Dinah & Ollie getting back together, I'm all for it! Growing up in the 1970's and 80's, Green Arrow & Black Canary were as synonymous for me as Superman & Lois Lane. I always liked them as a couple. Writers just made the mistake of writing Dinah as too much of a passive girlfriend who was usually relegated to calming Ollie down from one of his rants and that was about it. Grell was one of the first writers to really show her breaking free from that mold and asserting herself more. Chuck Dixon continued that and Gail Simone has really run with developing her into her own woman. Some people may complain that putting her back in a relationship undoes some of that gained independence, but I am all the more interested to see what kind of dynamic they have now with her being much more defined. Of course, this is all just fanboy speculation right now, but that's my two cents about how I feel on the matter. :)

Also, does anyone else find Dinah's stance in BoP about concentrating on family kind of contradicted by her running around with the new JLA...?

]]> By: Patrick Hamilton http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14567 Patrick Hamilton Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:45:09 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14567 Said expansion of the membership perhaps why you think it fits? Sorry for the second message; slippery "enter" finger. Patrick H Said expansion of the membership perhaps why you think it fits? Sorry for the second message; slippery "enter" finger.

Patrick H

]]> By: Patrick Hamilton http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-14566 Patrick Hamilton Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:44:00 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2006/11/19/birds-of-prey-100-opening-up-the-game/#comment-14566 Isn't it from Justice League America #100, where they basically made every hero a member? Patrick H. Isn't it from Justice League America #100, where they basically made every hero a member?

Patrick H.

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