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What I bought - 20 December 2006
So every week, I go into the comic book shoppe, and I think there's no way I can spend a lot of money. And then, I walk out with a pile of books heavier than my one-year-old. I blame the proprietor. It's like the crack, man! And he's the pusher! Who's with me?
But you know - I loves me the comics, man. I loves them so.
Catwoman #62 by Will Pfeifer, David López, and Alvaro López. $2.99, DC.
When did Will Pfeifer get so good at writing comic books? I know he's been doing it for a while, and when I ran across him, he's always seemed perfectly competent, but he's been writing Catwoman for a while now (almost two years) and each issue is better than the last. And they started out pretty dang good! Every issue I read, I think, "Wow - how can he top this?" And then he does. Each. Freakin'. Issue. Now, you may think this makes Catwoman the greatest comic book ever. Well, it's not. But it is a very damned good one, and you're doing yourself a disservice if you're not reading it. A disservice, say I!
Take this issue. After the crazed events of the Film Freak arc, we needed a breather. Yes, it's a talking heads issue! Do Selina and Holly and Slam play baseball, like the Claremont X-Men of old, and bond over sports? Well, no they do not, but Selina, obviously, has some 'splainin' to do, and we get the full story of her tryst with Sam and the conception of Helena and the resolution to the whole One Year Later stuff and what happened after she shot Black Mask in the face. There are many surprises, including one I should have seen coming, right? Did I miss something? I'm not going to spoil the ending, but for some reason, I missed it, and now I have to go back and re-read the previous issues. It's very possible I'm just the dumbest person in the world.
Anyway, it's a marvelous issue - full of tenderness and brutality and sacrifice and hope. Pfeifer, for whatever reason, has been allowed by the powers-that-be at DC to build this story slowly, spanning issues far beyond the standard "six-issue written-for-the-trade" crapola that infects so many titles, and therefore we get powerful issues like this one, that link back to so many other stories and events that have come before. Sure, it doesn't "fit" into a good trade paperback, but it's a much richer reading experience. Or it could be just me. Some of my favorite titles right now - this one, X-Factor, She-Hulk, Rex Mundi, Fables (the last three of which also came out this week) - do this very well. They reward long-time readers with great character development and long-running stories, and they are very nice to read and appreciate.
So this issue wraps up a bunch of long-running plots in this book. Next issue we begin something new. I imagine the consequences of Selina's actions will continue to haunt her, and that's just fine with me. It should be fine for everyone!
Catwoman: the best book you're probably not reading. Put down that copy of Justice Society and buy this instead!
Checkmate #9 by Greg Rucka and Jesus Saiz. $2.99, DC.
Speaking of good DC books you're probably not reading, Checkmate isn't the greatest book, but it's a very interesting book that will probably read better in the trades. I've been buying Queen & Country in the trades, and that works well, so this probably does too. That's not to say I'm going to stop buying the individual issues, but if you're waiting for the trades, I can't fault you.
Anyway, the nice thing about this book, as I've mentioned before, is that it takes place squarely in the DC Universe but is a pure espionage book, and since Rucka does that kind of thing well, it's interesting to read. I like when writers try to make the loser bad guys of the DCU more threatening, and although Kobra has had its moments in the past, Rucka is presenting them as more of a threat than they've been for a while, so even though we still get the goofy "Faith to the Kali Yuga!" crap, they still have a sense of menace about them.  Rucka also brings us a pseudo-crossover with Shadowpact, which is nice. Not that I love Shadowpact, but it's neat to see these things as just a natural part of the DCU. And of course Checkmate would know how to get in touch with them! And there's a mention of the D.E.O. - where's Cameron Chase, Rucka?!?!?
There's quite a bit to like about this comic. It's not perfect, because the cast of characters is still too big and each issue re-introduces them awkwardly. Or, as I have pointed out recently (see above), I just might be the dumbest person in the world. But I'm still digging it. It can get better, but it's doing fine right now.
Criminal #3 by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips. $2.99, Marvel.
Hey, look! It's the next issue of the greatest comic book this world has ever seen or ever will see! You know it's true!
Okay, so I'm being a bit sarcastic. I'm just surprised by the outpouring of critical acclaim this seems to be getting, because although I like it, it's not like Brubaker and Phillips are re-inventing the wheel here. I mean, it's a good book, but it's far from the greatest thing ever. Daredevil is better. Sleeper was better. Uncanny X-Men is not. But still.
I mean, last issue the heist went to shit. Shocking! In this issue, Leo takes Greta to his grandfather's farm to recuperate, and the bad guys beat the bushes to find them. Let's see ... might Leo and Greta find some companionship in each other's arms? Might bringing Ivan to a place where there's a briefcase full of smack lead to something really, really bad? If you answered "yes" to either of these questions, well, you're not really making any great leaps, are you?
However, Phillips continues to do a fine job with the art, and Brubaker's writing is compelling, even though it's a bit predictable. The key in stories like this is not to surprise us, but to make the little things matter, and when Leo speaks to Greta about her scars, it's a beautiful moment. It's those kinds of things that make this a nice comic. The plot is still moving along nicely, and even though it's predictable, I still don't quite know how, or if, Leo is going to get out of it. So there's that.
Don't get me wrong - I enjoy this book a lot. I'm just a little surprised by the critical humping it's been getting. Is it indicative of how lousy the Big Two are? Possibly.
Elephantmen #5 by Richard Starkings and Moritat. $2.99, Image.
Uh-oh. Richard Starkings has been sending me every issue of Elephantmen in the hopes that, like the crack, I will become addicted. I have been enjoying the series, enough to recommend it but not enough to make the commitment to buy it. But damn, if this issue isn't the best one yet. Damn you, Richard Starkings!
This is a very good issue. It follows thematically on the heels of the zero issue (which I reviewed here) in that it shows the Elephantmen leaving the Mappo compound by train and what happened next. Yes, there's a fight like there is on the cover. The hippo (Hip Flask) and the rhino (Obadiah Horn) have a disagreement about how Obadiah is treating some of the other animals on the train - Hip Flask thinks they need to stop picking on the weaker animals, while Obadiah is all about the "survival of the strongest" thing. Meanwhile, Ebony Hide, who is actually an elephantman, almost kills one of the humans in the compound, who keeps calling him a monkey. The human is rescued by a camelman (whose name is, of course, Joe), who helps get him to safety. In the present, we see the consequences of both the fight and the camel's compassion, and it sets up future storylines very well.
The pace of the comic has been a bit slow, but with the last couple of issues, it's picked up a bit, and although Starkings still isn't in a hurry to get anywhere, it's good to see that he's fitting each piece into a grander tapestry. Instead of relying on not-really-earned sentiment to help us identify with the Elephantmen, we're actually getting to know who they are through their actions and their personalities, and this is making them much more sympathetic or, in the case of Obadiah, frightening. It's nicely done, and it's part of the reason why this book is more enjoyable now. Moritat's art is not as sketchy as it has been occasionally in past issues, and the bloody scenes are truly horrific. A very good issue all around.
If you haven't been buying this comic, track down the zero issue and this one. They are both worth your time and money.
Fables #56 by Bill Willingham, Mark Buckingham, Steve Leialoha, and Andrew Pepoy. $3.50, DC/Vertigo.
Listen. You know this is a great book. I know it's a great book. Do I really need to say anything else? Really?
Well, it's a Christmas issue. Willingham manages to write a pretty much stand-alone story that still ties into the greater storyline. If you just pick this up because you love Christmas comics, I don't think you'll be disappointed, although you might wonder what's up with Santa and Ambrose and the girl who kisses the frog. But that scene is does so well you don't need to know how it ties into the greater storyline - you can just enjoy it for what it is, and perhaps be intrigued enough to pick up subsequent issues. Otherwise, it's a Christmas story. And although it's not exactly heart-warming, it does show the tight connections between the Fables and how Bigby is trying to be a good husband and father even though it's against his nature. There's a lot going on, even though it appears to be a simple Christmas tale!
I don't know. There's a lot of little touches, like Boy Blue and Rose Red learning how to fly a magic carpet, but what's important is that Fables continues to be excellent. And I feel sad for you if you don't read it. Why do you deprive yourself of excellent comics?
Hard-Boiled Comics Featuring Billy Blackburn, P.I. #2 (of 4) by Steve Earnhart and Rudolf Montemayor OR Ulises Carpintero. $2.99, Goodbum Studios.
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Steve Earnhart sent me both of these in the mail, and that was very nice of him. I'm pretty sure I'm getting a copy next week when it comes out, unless my comic shoppe missed it when I ordered it, so we'll see. Why did I get both issues? I'll bring that up below.
I read a review online really ripping the first issue of this, which I enjoyed (yes, the pictures are all gone at that link - that was back when I didn't know what I was doing, and I haven't had time to correct them). Now, it wasn't a perfect comic, and when I read the bad review, I kept thinking that the reviewer was absolutely correct about his objections to the book. But I still liked the book. Why? Was it because Earnhart sent me a copy for free? Possibly, although I like to think I have a bit more integrity than that. The reason I liked the first issue (which was, even I admit, riddled with clichés) is because it works despite the clichés. Earnhart has a lot to work on in regards to dialogue, but it's not like he's a comic book veteran. We let people who have been in the industry for years off the hook when it comes to clunky dialogue, and we're going to bash a newcomer for it? And, despite the dialogue, Earnhart is passionate about this book, and it shows on the page. He is having oodles of fun writing these outlandish and stereotypical characters, and that goes a long way to overcoming the book's shortcomings. Again, for 3 dollars, I'd rather read a flawed book that is done with love and joy than a flawed book that has no soul. Some people would rather spend their 3 dollars on Justice League of America. Brad Meltzer's dialogue is just as goofy as this dialogue, and he doesn't appear to be having as much fun.
I know I'm damning with faint praise, but this really is an enjoyable book. Issue #1 came out a while ago, so it takes us a few pages to get back into the story, and the opening few pages, with Cynthia Torchsong ranting about how her plan to destroy her husband has gone awry, are a bit confusing (I honestly can't remember who she's talking to, even though we get a reminder later in the issue), but once we get back to Billy Blackburn and his "business partner" Knux finding the disc that they are searching for, the story once again picks up steam. We finally meet the elusive (and whorish) Torchsong daughter, Crystal (another stereotype!), and Billy figures out that Cynthia is somehow involved in the blackmail plot, and Hammerhead the Shark-Man does awful things to many people (but they're fun awful things, because he's so gleeful in his mayhem), and the Killer Clown shows up again and also does awful things. It's so over-the-top you have to chuckle.
So why two copies? Well, the one on the right up there is the variant, with art by Ulises Carpintero, who was supposed to be the regular artist on the mini-series. Montemayor is presumably the artist now, which is kind of strange - two issue of a mini-series, three artists! Anyway, the variant does not just have a different cover - it's a completely different comic book, with the same script but totally different art. It's fascinating, because everything is similar, but there are different "camera" angles and a different vibe to the whole thing. Carpintero's art is reminiscent of Eduardo Risso's, which unfortunately isn't a good thing, because it looks a little too reminiscent. Montemayor's is much rougher, which suits the subject matter better, and his Hammerhead looks better, too. But it's still very neat to look at both issues and compare the artistic choices. I hope Montemayor is on for the duration!
Anyway, you could do a LOT worse than this comic, despite some of its problems. There's nothing very original about it, but it has a lot of verve and style that make it very fun to read. It's bloody, offensive, silly, and occasionally icky. But its insanity works for it, and makes it more compelling than a lot of other books you can find on the shelves. It will be out on the shelves next week, so if you see it lying around, you might want to pick it up. You may not like it, but you definitely will not be bored.
She-Hulk #14 by Dan Slott, Rick Burchett, and Cliff Rathburn. $2.99, Marvel.
This week's Marvel issues felt a bit hefty. Did anyone else notice it? I checked, and they were still 3 dollars - nothing super-sized or anything. But the advertisements - oh my dear sweet Baby Jeebus. Let's have fun with this, like Paul O'Brien sometimes does!
Four pages of story. Yay! Ad. One story page. Ad. One story page. Ad. One story page. Ad. Ad. One story page. Double-page ad (that annoying Nissan guy who lived in the car for a week). One story page. Ad. One story page. Ad. One story page. Ad. Two story pages! Double-page ad. One story page. Ad. Ad. One story page. Double-page ad. One story page. Ad. Double-page ad (for the Superman DVD - in a Marvel book?). One story page. Ad.  Double-page spread (when Andy jumps off the Empire State Building). Double-page ad. One story page. Ad.  Ad. One story page. Ad. One story page. Letters page.
Check that out. After the first four pages, there are only two consecutive pages once without ads. There's a double-page spread thrown in there as well, but that sort of counts as one page. There are FIVE double-page advertisements, and thrice two advertisements follow each other, or one more time than the actual story (I'm ignoring the first four pages, because they're the "hook"). Here is what is possibly the worst thing: Seven advertisement are for Marvel-related products, including three for comics - Wolverine #50, Thunderbolts #110, and that Kaare Andrews Spider-Man abomination. So Marvel is paying ... who? themselves? to advertise their products? If there's one thing I really cannot stand in my comics, it's advertisements for other comics. I mean, if I went through the effort to get this, I should know about other ones, right? Dear Lord.
It really did ruin my enjoyment of the issue, which is actually a sweet story about Awesome Andy trying to figure out what to do with his life now that Mallory isn't his honey anymore. He needs to figure out who he really is, and so flies away and out of the book (let's hope for only a little while, because Slott has done some nice things with the character). Oh, and Jen gets drafted. This Superhuman Registration Act is really, really stupid. I mean, it's nice that Slott is trying to work with it, but it's really, really stupid.
I guess Marvel is doing this so they won't have to raise the price of their books. But DC doesn't have as many ads. What's up, Marvel? It's really annoying.
Rex Mundi #3 by Arvid Nelson and Juan Ferreyra. $2.99, Dark Horse.
Lots of things get revealed in this issue, as Julien and Genevieve poke around Rennes-le-Chateau in southern France in their continuing search for the Holy Grail. Genevieve is still secretly reporting to the Duke of Lorraine, and in a church in the village she tells what they're doing to a mysterious person with a weird voice (or at least weird caption boxes). The man tells her they're looking for the tomb of Clovis II, the "greatest of the Merovingian kings," and that when they find it, she needs to destroy it. She says she'll do it as long as they don't hurt Julien. Meanwhile, Julien finds an old woman who was a friend of Father Marin, Julien's mentor who was murdered in the first issue of the series. She helps him by telling him that the Grail castle was actually the seat of the Merovingian kings, who became the dukes of Lorraine, and that's what they're looking for. As they begin their hunt for the castle, we see that they are being followed by an old foe thought long dead (it's a comic book, after all, and people are always coming back from the grave). It appears he was the man who heard Genevieve's "confession." He's a nasty piece of work, too, which makes me think that he has no intention of letting Julien live, despite his assurances to Genevieve. Meanwhile, the war continues, with things not going well for France. But the Duke of Lorraine continues onward, not unlike a certain American president and a certain war against Muslims ...
As usual, this is yet another book I can't really review too well, because I like it so much. Plus, it's so involved that I can't really recommend picking up any single issue. Nelson helpfully provides footnotes to issues when certain things happen, and Dark Horse has released the Image issues in trade (I think they're all out, but the last one might not be on shelves yet). The story continues to evolve nicely, and Ferreyra's art is more beautiful in this issue than it has been in the first two issues, and I wonder how much the abrupt cancellation of Emissary has allowed him to focus more on this. Possibly not at all, depending on when he drew this! But the art is really an integral part of what makes this book so wonderful, and it's getting better and better (which, considering it started off well, is impressive).
I probably mentioned this the last time Nelson brought him up, but Clovis II was NOT the "greatest of the Merovingian kings." Read more about him here. He ruled from A.D. 639-657, but was only six when he came to the throne, meaning he was barely in his twenties when he died. His wife, Balthild, was far more powerful and influential. Nelson COULD mean the founder of the dynasty, Clovis I, who united France and converted the country to Christianity, but why then does he persist on calling him Clovis II? Beats me. Yes, I'm nitpicking. I wrote my freakin' Masters thesis on the Merovingians - let me flash my arcane knowledge occasionally!
Okay, moving on. It's a good book. Buy the trades and hop on board!
Union Jack #1-4 by Christos Gage, Mike Perkins, and Andrew Hennessy. $2.99, Marvel.
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I read the first two issues of this mini-series, which was enough to convince me to get the other two, and although it's not the greatest mini-series in the world, it is entertaining. Union Jack is conscripted when R.A.I.D. - Radically Advanced Ideas in Destruction, and yes, nobody comes up with dumber acronyms than Marvel writers! - plans an attack on London using a Weapon of Mass Destruction and several C-list villains. UJ is teamed with Contessa Allegra Valentina de la Fontaine of S.H.I.E.L.D. fame, Sabra, and a new Arabian Knight to fight the bad guys. His superior tells him that no one else is available. Not even Excalibur! The four of them fight the bad guys, beat them up, and come up against a big ol' robot that looks like a toy, to be honest. But it's powerful! I wonder if they defeat it?
The action aspects of this book aren't really where it gets interesting. I have mentioned before about the interaction between Sabra and Arabian Knight, who obviously don't like each other. Unfortunately, it never goes too far beyond just a minor plot point, which is a shame. I did like how even at the end, neither person can really overcome their hatred and prejudice to accept the other, even though they respect the warrior aspect of their foe. More interesting is the puppet master behind it all, because although it's a perfectly comic-booky kind of thing, it does tie in a bit with how the real world works. Gage gives us a heroic ending, but it would have been far more interesting if the villain "got away with it," and that's what I thought was going to happen. The deus ex machina at the very end is a bit silly, but it doesn't change that this is a neat little political thriller that doesn't get into the subtleties of ruling with as much, uh, subtlety as Ex Machina, but still more than a lot of books you could name. In the end, it's an good comic about being a hero to the working class, because no one is a hero to them. The incident where the English worker gives Union Jack the "stiff upper lip" speech is a bit goofy, but Gage's heart is in the right place, and it's a fine sentiment. It would have been nice to see a bit more of it and less of, say, the giant robot, but that's okay.
The trade is probably worth it. The story zips along, and Perkins' art is very nice. It's not a great comic, but it is a pretty good one.
Wasteland #5 by Antony Johnston and Christopher Mitten. $2.99, Oni Press.
I've been sticking with this title not because it's so very brilliant, but because it's intriguing and there are plenty of possibilities beyond Johnston just ripping off post-Apocalyptic movies. And, as I've mentioned before, I'm far more willing to give books like this more time than books from the Big Boys. And I've enjoyed the first four issues, so that makes it easier. This issue, despite that rather ugly cover, is probably the best one yet, so I have a feeling my patience is going to be rewarded as Johnston gets his feet set and starts to get us more involved in this world. This issue is basically an action-packed fest, but our heroes still learn some things, like what's going on in the wagon they're not allowed into (and which already got one of their number killed) and what Michael knew about it. We also get some more information about the Lord Founder and his cult, which makes the city of Newbegin more interesting. So far the scenes in the city have been kind of clunky, but they too, are getting better as we learn more about them.
Mitten's art continues to be a star of the book, even though my basic concern with his art - that all the people look the same - continues to vex me. The fight scenes, however, are fantastic, and the Dwellers are nicely grotesque. Mitten really shines with everything BUT the people - his landscapes are wonderful, and the machinery of the caravan is clunky and brutal. It's nice to see someone doing such nice detail in every part of the panel.
Oh, and no ads. At least in the story part. At the end, yeah. Including an ad for Phonogram (published by Image) and Wormwood (published by IDW). So that's weird. But still - 3 dollars for a good story NOT disturbed by pages and pages of advertisements. You have to love that!
MINI-SERIES I BOUGHT BUT DID NOT READ.
The Lone Ranger #3 (of 6) by Brett Matthews and Sergio Cariello. $2.99, Dynamite Entertainment.
Hey, if you don't believe me when I tell you this is a cool series, believe Greg Hatcher. He thinks it's pretty darned cool, too. Two Gregs agree: it's a cool series. How can you go wrong?
Omega Men #3 (of 6) by Andersen Gabrych and Henry Flint. $2.99, DC.
I read somewhere that this and Mystery in Space are subtly leading into a bigger mini-series, which would piss me off something fierce. Please don't piss me off, DC! PLEASE!!!!!
7 Brothers #3 (of 5) by Garth Ennis and Jeevan King. $2.99, Virgin Comics.
Boy, I just don't like that cover at all. Blech. It's still a good series, though. The guy who works at my local comics shoppe says that Virgin comics have greater print runs than even the big titles from DC, like 52 and JLA. What does this mean? Is anyone buying the other titles? I'm just curious, because they just started with the comics, and I wonder if they will last with all this saturation.
So that's it for this week. Good Christmas reading! Chime in with your opinions - if you dare!!!!
- Posted on December 22, 2006 @ 08:45 AM






30 Comments
Matt D
December 22, 2006 at 9:00 am
I think that House Ads are generally a good thing. We make the mistake of thinking that we of the internet are the majority of people who buy comics, but it generally turns out that we're not, not even in the least. There might be some people out there who have no idea a low visibility (but still very good, mind you) comic like Thunderbolts is going to be getting such an overhaul.
As for Pfiefer, I've been pushing him since HERO came out. I think he's the most underrated guy in the big two (as opposed to the guy with most potential which would be Aguirre-Sacasa).
Paperghost
December 22, 2006 at 10:05 am
With regards adverts - I considered Buying Superman Confidential until this happened. Looks like thats another comic I won't be buying. Bah
Rebis
December 22, 2006 at 10:07 am
All I have to add is: You are so right on about Catwoman and Pfiefer. Of course you're right that it's not the "greatest ever," but it is great indeed. As superhero comics go, it's one of my faves of all time, and I never even used to buy Catwoman at all! I hopped at on One Year Later (the only comic I tried and stuck with because of that stunt). It's surely my favorite "big two" comic right now.
Well, aside from "52," which I read first every week, except for when I discover an issue of "All-Star Superman," which I read first every three months or so when it comes out. But those books are both anomalies. Indeed, "ASS" might just BE the greatest ever. Furthermore I acknowledge "52" is not at all a great book, but it is good, and fun and WEEKLY, and I'm a sucker for serial storytelling so I am really enjoying it, no matter how much sniping it takes here in CSBG Land.
Conor E
December 22, 2006 at 10:15 am
"It really did ruin my enjoyment of the issue"
Wow, I guess my mutant power is ignoring ads, half the time I don't even realize it was packed with ads until I literally go back and count the pages. I can understand annoyance, but "ruined"? Bloody hell.
Kieron Gillen
December 22, 2006 at 10:24 am
There's an ad for Wasteland in the back of every issue of Phonogram too. Antony and I were having a cheery Ad swap, and Image and Oni were cool with it.
KG
Guy LeCharles Gonzalez
December 22, 2006 at 10:39 am
Another thing about house ads is that they're often needed to balance the books, which are usually printed in 8-, 16- or 32-page forms, depending on the printer. Figure a 22-page story in the normal 32-page format requires 10 pages of ads (of whatever extras) and if Marvel's sales reps happen to sell 12 pages in a particular month, they need at least two more pages to be able to print the book.
Retailers may complain about the additional weight, and fans about the intrusiveness, but until there's a massive shift to waiting for the trade that noticeably affects orders for the individual issues, you're not going to see less ads any time soon.
Greg Burgas
December 22, 2006 at 11:17 am
Guy - I know that the ads aren't going away, and I understand the economics of it, and that's all fine. I do wonder why DC doesn't need as many ads, but that's something for them to answer! What bugs me is the way the ads break up the story - I would rather have them clustered together in the center of the book rather than one page of story, then an ad, then one page, and so on. It's frustrating reading a page and then getting hit in the face with an ad. I wish the books were structured better to make the story and advertisements blend better. Of course, if you're Conor, you don't notice them! Usually I don't, Conor, but every once in a while, it really starts to bug me.
I had forgotten about the ad for Wasteland in Phonogram, Kieron. That's neat that Image and Oni were fine with it - it's good to sell more comics, whether they're from your company or not!
Matt D
December 22, 2006 at 11:38 am
Joe Q would say: DC is owned by WB/Time Warner/etc and can toss money around a lot more, I imagine.
Anonymous
December 22, 2006 at 1:19 pm
I haven't picked up Superman Confidential, but I had that same experience with the last issue of Teen Titans. There was a comic under there SOMEWHERE! I had a hard time telling though, because they were multiple pack-in items (including glasses...for something...I refused to even pay attention what they were for...) that the comic was lost in all that mess. And it weighed just about the same as a trade papaerback. MOST of the time, ads don't bother me, except when Marvel screws up and puts an ad in the middleof a 2-page spread or when DC decides to triple the size and weight of one of their books. I know they need money but you gotta draw the line somewhere...
Antony Johnston
December 22, 2006 at 1:29 pm
And the ad for WORMWOOD is there because Ben does our covers. You did notice that, right?
Apodaca
December 22, 2006 at 1:54 pm
"We let people who have been in the industry for years off the hook when it comes to clunky dialogue, and we’re going to bash a newcomer for it?"
What's this 'we' stuff? I don't let anybody off the hook for clunky dialogue, especially if they've been in the industry for years.
We should criticize everybody who writes crappily.
Greg Burgas
December 22, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Antony - I know WHY the ad for Wormwood is there, I was just surprised because it's published by a different company. I don't know the ins and outs of creator-owned stuff as opposed to company-owned, so it was a pleasant surprise.
Dan - We let creators off the hook all the time! Of course we criticize, and that's what we should do, but I didn't see anyone not buying Infinite Crisis because of the lame dialogue, which is what I meant by "letting them off the hook." I suppose I should have said "It's not a reason to NOT buy Hard-Boiled Comics," because there is plenty of other stuff to recommend it, even though the dialogue does need to get better.
Antony Johnston
December 22, 2006 at 3:54 pm
The "ins and outs" differ from company to company and even book to book, but yeah, Oni are pretty good about that sort of thing. A rising tide lifts all boats, and all that
Apodaca
December 22, 2006 at 4:48 pm
"but I didn’t see anyone not buying Infinite Crisis because of the lame dialogue"
Hello? There are plenty of us who didn't even touch Infinite Crisis. For reasons including the lame dialogue.
Greg Burgas
December 22, 2006 at 6:25 pm
You didn't buy it, and I didn't buy it. But a bunch of people read it, bashed the stupidity of it, and kept buying it. Yes, that's stupid, but they did it. They did it!!!!!
JR
December 22, 2006 at 8:33 pm
"The guy who works at my local comics shoppe says that Virgin comics have greater print runs than even the big titles from DC, like 52 and JLA. What does this mean? Is anyone buying the other titles? "
I've been buying Ramayan 3392 AD, which is gorgeously illustrated though the writing needs work but seems to be getting a little better as they go along (which seems to be a common complaint about the Virgin Comics releases).
From my understanding, they've been doing large print runs in order to cater primarily to international markets (India in particular) rather than just focusing on the American direct market. I vaguely remember reading that they've reportedly been doing mid-list Marvel/DC numbers in India? For the life of me I don't recall where I read that though.
Tom Foss
December 22, 2006 at 8:49 pm
I missed it too, Greg. So we're both the dumbest people alive.
winterteeth
December 22, 2006 at 11:25 pm
FYI- Chase is in almost every issue of Manhunter and they are about to kick off a storyline that ties into the original Chase series where Cameron confronts the man who killed her father. It really is quite a fun book.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
December 22, 2006 at 11:40 pm
- I picked up the first Rex Mundi trade Greg, because you and those who read it seem passionate. I got just to the end of the first issue, which was alright, didn't grab me as great as you say though, when a whole chunk of the pages from the middle fell out.
I've exchanged it, but it's gone to the bottom of my trade pile right now (which has been pushed aside as I plough through Richard Dawkins latest book).
I think I like the art better in the later trades, from what I saw.
Also seems to be quite a few pages without dialouge coming up. I don't like that in action books, not sure how I feel about it in a mystery book.
-Should I check out this She Hulk business? I'm intrigued, but it came out when I was boycotting Marvel for their homophobic comments/policies, so I haven't tried it out.
Should I start with the first trade, or is the relaunch a better jumping on point?
- I musn't have been paying attention - I always thought you were underwhelmed with Catwoman. Or maybe that was just me after I read the name Film Freak.
-Wastelands looks good. The combination of hte old PC game Fallout and Stephen Kings early Dark Tower got me into the whole post-apocalyptic world scenario (particuarly desert settings), and I've liked nearly all of what I've read from Antony Johnston, so I can't wait for the trade. Shame he's not putting in the text pages from the book into it. Maybe they'll release them as a seperate book when there's enough? That would surely be agreat idea that would make lots of money for the creators! (I say knowing full well one of them reads this blog/posts here)
-Anyone know if any of the Virgin books are must reads? I saw some of the art from most of them on Newsarama, and though I'm not usually art driven in my choices, it was pretty enough to make me think I'll be picking some of them up in trade.
"It’s very possible I’m just the dumbest person in the world."
That's what Tom Beland says.
Bald Steve
December 22, 2006 at 11:43 pm
Dude - THANKS for the review!!! Very cool words indeed, as I definitely need to know what's working and what is not for people who read HBC (wait 'til ya read #3 if you like the dialog paired-down). I really am having a blast outting this thing together and it really thrills me to see that it's coming across on the page.
As far as artists go, Rudolf is around for the long haul, and his work in upcoming installments is just jaw-dropping. Brutality and mayhem on a hilarious scale. The variant was shipped in a 1-in-15 ratio, so some shops will get it and some won't. Funny you mentioned Risso, as Ulises was his start pupil.
Thanks again, and have an awesome holiday!
-Bald Steve
Antony Johnston
December 23, 2006 at 4:56 am
@FGJ:
"Maybe they’ll release them as a seperate book when there’s enough? That would surely be agreat idea that would make lots of money for the creators!"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahaha. Ha. Ha.
Only if you buy a few thousand copies yourself, Funky
Greg Burgas
December 23, 2006 at 7:30 am
Good questions, FGJ. That sucks about the Rex Mundi trade - why oh why can't the binding for comics be as professional as other books? There's not a lot of pages without dialogue (you'll have to forgive me; it's been a while since the early issues came out), but there is a good chunk of one issue that is a chase scene, so the lack of dialogue doesn't matter, and it doesn't last that long. The biggest problem with Rex Mundi is that it DOESN'T grab you right away, so you might not know if you like it or not until you read several issues. And that's an investment, I know.
For me, the first series of She-Hulk is pretty essential, because the second series pretty much follows along from it. And it's just as good as this series has been.
I've been enjoying Catwoman the entire time Pfeifer has been writing it, even though early in the run I was not as impressed as I am now. For the first year he was doing just enough to keep me buying it, getting a little better each issue, and since the OYL jump he's been doing much better with it. So it might have seemed like I was underwhelmed, but that's because for a while it wasn't amazing, just good solid comics. Recently it's been getting better exponentially.
The only Virgin book I get is 7 Brothers, so I can't help you there.
And yes, I'm sure Beland would agree!
Thanks for the info, winterteeth. Good to see Chase showing up somewhere! Damn, I keep forgetting to go buy Manhunter and at least form an opinion. To the comic shoppe!
Steve - despite my reservations, it's a fun book. It's brutal, but fun. There's no reason for people not to at least check it out!
Why no text pieces, Antony? I'm curious. I assume it has to do with the economics of the whole thing, but that's a shame.
Antony Johnston
December 23, 2006 at 8:40 am
@Greg: Partly economics, and partly a way of rewarding the people who support the book in its monthly format. It's an extra bonus for those loyal readers, along with the issue covers and letters pages.
Nothing in the WALKING THE DUST pieces is strictly necessary to enjoy the comic story, but for readers who are into the series enough to buy the monthlies, it's a cool way of delving a bit deeper into the world.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
December 23, 2006 at 10:44 pm
"Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahaha. Ha. Ha.
Only if you buy a few thousand copies yourself, Funky"
Damn you cynical old hands!
It's like you're saying a text book based on a sci-fi series not from the (ironically called) 'big two' doesn't have a chance!
What happened to the days just after the 90's when everyone thought they'd make Image founders kind of money, and would release more sourcebooks/pin up books than they did issues of their series?
"It’s an extra bonus for those loyal readers, along with the issue covers and letters pages.
Nothing in the WALKING THE DUST pieces is strictly necessary to enjoy the comic story, but for readers who are into the series enough to buy the monthlies, it’s a cool way of delving a bit deeper into the world."
I can see where your're coming from, wanting to make a living and all by getting a return on the monthlies, however being the kinda guy who only buys trades*, I'm a little dissapointed.
I really like worlds that are fleshed out - and feel as though they don't just exist for the story - and I like having somthing more to read after the story proper.
I'm sure the book does flesh the world out, but I imagine as the comic tells the story, and you want as much story as possible per issue, that the text pieces add quite a lot to the texture of the world.
I guess you see it as rewarding the readers of the singles, and I feel as if it's punishing the readers of the trade.
But hey, the grass is always greener, and I'll still be picking it up.
Maybe in the 20th anniversery absolute deluxe edition you can include some of them?
Oh, will the trades be full size like the Queen & Country trades or the smaller size such as Spooked and Julius?
FunkyGreenJerusalem
December 23, 2006 at 10:53 pm
"That sucks about the Rex Mundi trade - why oh why can’t the binding for comics be as professional as other books?"
I know - it's not as if they haven't perfected the binding process.
I was shocked it happened on somthing from Dark Horse - in my experience they're quality control is pretty damn good.
Maybe it was just a faulty copy - when I get some time off work (AFTER x-mas) and burn through my pile of trades and get back to it, hopefully it will just be a pleasent reading experience.
I think even if I don't love the first trade to bits I'll pick up the next one - I flicked through a recent issue and like the current artist a lot more (although the first artist isn't bad at all).
Hell, I didn't care for the first arc in Fables at all, yet picked up the 2nd one to see what the fuss was about, and fell in love.
I'm giving that way.
"For me, the first series of She-Hulk is pretty essential, because the second series pretty much follows along from it. And it’s just as good as this series has been."
Okay.
For some reason I'm really skeptical about the series. I've no love for the character, but that doesn't mean I won't enjoy the series.
I guess it being a comedy in a law firm I keep getting an David E Kelly vibe from it (and I've already taken that trip before).
Also, although America has produced some damn good comedies/comedians, every time I hear of somthing that's hilarious, I get cautious. The first review by an American saying the US Office was better than the british one, I put down to national pride - but now that it seems to be the consensus(and Arrested Development got cancelled), I've come to the conclusion that Americans like their comedy, as they like everything else, mediocre.
(That's right, I went there).
Oh by the way, I think you should, if you haven't already, check out the GrimJack reprints from IDW. Very, very good stuff.
Great stories, and they waste no time or panel telling them.
Greg Burgas
December 24, 2006 at 7:25 am
I've been buying the GrimJack trades, yes I have! My only complaint is that they come out so damned slowly.
She-Hulk ISN'T hilarious. It's funny, but it's not meant to be a sitcom kind of book, and that's why it's pretty good. When the humor does go into sitcom territory, it's not that good, but usually it just gives us situations and the humor springs from that. But it's not laugh-out-loud funny like, to use your example, Arrested Development was (and I watched it, so don't blame me!).
Picking on the Yanks now, are we? I don't watch either version of The Office, so I can't speak to that. And the only Aussie humor I have any experience with is old D-Generation radio show tapes. Now THAT was funny!
Dave
December 24, 2006 at 7:08 pm
In defense of 7 Brothers #3, the Jevan Kang variant cover was a lot better than the Amano one. Then again, I stopped getting excited about Amano's artwork in general after being overexposed to his work by rabid Final Fantasy fans back in high school.
On the other hand, 7B #3 was the weakest issue of the series yet. I'm hoping the last 2 issues can turn it around, but I've been having some pretty big issues with the pacing of the series in general thus far.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
December 24, 2006 at 11:11 pm
"And the only Aussie humor I have any experience with is old D-Generation radio show tapes. Now THAT was funny!"
Those guys own Australian comedy.
And I mean that seriously - everything they do (except maybe Funky Squad) is both a critical and commercial success - be it scripted tv comedy, a discussion tv show, a theatre sports program or the two films they've made.
Hell, my flatmate just brought a DVD boxset of a show they made over ten years ago - still gold.
(and bizarrely, it feels timely).
FunkyGreenJerusalem
December 24, 2006 at 11:12 pm
"I’ve been buying the GrimJack trades, yes I have! My only complaint is that they come out so damned slowly."
I only just got into them, so I'm working my way through them - might slow down a bit if they are slow, I got the first three in the space of a week and a half.
Antony Johnston
December 27, 2006 at 5:51 pm
@Funky: I feel your pain, but like I said, there's nothing in the text pieces that's actually necessary to follow the story. If we really wanted to "punish" the trade readers, we'd include everything in every trade, charge $25 per book for them... then lose money hand over fist and have to close the series at issue 12 because nobody would buy it.
("Making a living"? On indie monthlies? Hahahaha, etc.)
"Maybe in the 20th anniversery absolute deluxe edition you can include some of them?"
The answer's in the question
If we *ever* somehow get to the stage of doing a 20th anniversary Absolute edition of WASTELAND, I promise right here and now that it will include everything.
"Oh, will the trades be full size like the Queen & Country trades or the smaller size such as Spooked and Julius?"
Full size. We might consider doing a digest version *as well*, but not at the cost of a full-size version.