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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-693705</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Donâ€™t forget that Marvel, from their Western comics of the fifties and sixties, already owned a character called Ghost Rider.&quot;

You know until I read that I hadn&#039;t made any connection between the original &#039;ghost rider on horseback&#039; in the movie and the comic book character of the same name...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donâ€™t forget that Marvel, from their Western comics of the fifties and sixties, already owned a character called Ghost Rider.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know until I read that I hadn&#8217;t made any connection between the original &#8216;ghost rider on horseback&#8217; in the movie and the comic book character of the same name&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wimted</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-96722</link>
		<dc:creator>Wimted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 09:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been looking myself into the Superman story, and I found 12 German Ehapa-publishing albums, which were also printed in Dutch. Research gave me this: 

German Ehapa Album # 1 (1982) ==&gt; US:  Superman Spectacular #1 (1982)
German Ehapa Album # 2 (1982) ==&gt; US: Superman # 387 (1983)  &amp; Action Comics # 547 (1983)
German Ehapa Album # 3 (1982) ==&gt; US: Action Comics # 548 (1983) &amp; Action Comics # 549 (1983)
German Ehapa Album # 4 (1982) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 1 (1983)
German Ehapa Album # 5 (1983) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 2 (1984)
German Ehapa Album # 6 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 7 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 8 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 9 (1984) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 10 (1984) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 11 (1985) ==&gt; US: unknown
German Ehapa Album # 12 (1985) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 3 (1985) 

For a cover-overview see my page: http://www.superman-comics.nl/e/eaf.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been looking myself into the Superman story, and I found 12 German Ehapa-publishing albums, which were also printed in Dutch. Research gave me this: </p>
<p>German Ehapa Album # 1 (1982) ==&gt; US:  Superman Spectacular #1 (1982)<br />
German Ehapa Album # 2 (1982) ==&gt; US: Superman # 387 (1983)  &amp; Action Comics # 547 (1983)<br />
German Ehapa Album # 3 (1982) ==&gt; US: Action Comics # 548 (1983) &amp; Action Comics # 549 (1983)<br />
German Ehapa Album # 4 (1982) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 1 (1983)<br />
German Ehapa Album # 5 (1983) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 2 (1984)<br />
German Ehapa Album # 6 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 7 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 8 (1983) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 9 (1984) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 10 (1984) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 11 (1985) ==&gt; US: unknown<br />
German Ehapa Album # 12 (1985) ==&gt; US: Superman Special # 3 (1985) </p>
<p>For a cover-overview see my page: <a href="http://www.superman-comics.nl/e/eaf.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.superman-comics.nl/e/eaf.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nom De Plume</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-75201</link>
		<dc:creator>Nom De Plume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The colossus thing is weird. Claremont wasn&#039;t allowed to resurrect Psylocke because of the rule, but the rule was used primarily to shield the end of GM&#039;s NXM run, but he wasn&#039;t allowe to use two recently dead characters. But then, after he&#039;d gone the character returns and ead is dead no longer applies. It&#039;s like a circle of madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The colossus thing is weird. Claremont wasn&#8217;t allowed to resurrect Psylocke because of the rule, but the rule was used primarily to shield the end of GM&#8217;s NXM run, but he wasn&#8217;t allowe to use two recently dead characters. But then, after he&#8217;d gone the character returns and ead is dead no longer applies. It&#8217;s like a circle of madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider supernatural origin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-54804</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider supernatural origin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite some contrary claims by Thomas, Ploog and apparently Englehart, the truth is that Gary Friedrich created the tormented antihero complete with motorcycle, leather garb, flaming skull and the &quot;jusifiable&quot; pact with the devil, etc. two years before he took the prepackaged hero to Marvel and cut a deal for them to go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite some contrary claims by Thomas, Ploog and apparently Englehart, the truth is that Gary Friedrich created the tormented antihero complete with motorcycle, leather garb, flaming skull and the &#8220;jusifiable&#8221; pact with the devil, etc. two years before he took the prepackaged hero to Marvel and cut a deal for them to go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider Maniac</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-46225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so excited with the new Ghost Rider movie that&#039;s comming out. I&#039;ve always been a fan of the Ghost Rider comic. Have you guys ever checked out GhostRiderWasHere.com? I just can&#039;t wait to see the movie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so excited with the new Ghost Rider movie that&#8217;s comming out. I&#8217;ve always been a fan of the Ghost Rider comic. Have you guys ever checked out GhostRiderWasHere.com? I just can&#8217;t wait to see the movie!</p>
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		<title>By: the-knight-owl</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-46142</link>
		<dc:creator>the-knight-owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in the U.S., Super Juniors were a set of four vinyl toys in the shape of a baby Superman, baby Batman, baby Wonder Woman and baby Robin.  I have owned Batman and Robin at different times and I wish I still had them for my toddler today.  There were adorable, standing maybe 6&quot; high, with cute, childlike faces and bodies but wearing fairly accurate costumes of their adult counterparts.  These items came out around 1979 or so and you can still see them today in the ads in comics from that time (look for Mego ads).    I have also seen the Super Jrs advertized in some of those 1970s ads as being &#039;plush&#039;, but I have never seen these fabric versions in person.  

There was also one issue of those square little DC Digest books featuring the Super Jrs in a Christmas story complete with Santa Claus -- it was OK (not as cute as the X-Babies if you ask me!).  It came out around 1981 or so.  English language.  Bought it right at the grocery store back in the day.  Never saw them appear again.    

I thought these were some sort of licensing experiment that went nowhere and I never heard of the European versions of these things until now.  Now I&#039;ve got something else to collect and translate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in the U.S., Super Juniors were a set of four vinyl toys in the shape of a baby Superman, baby Batman, baby Wonder Woman and baby Robin.  I have owned Batman and Robin at different times and I wish I still had them for my toddler today.  There were adorable, standing maybe 6&#8243; high, with cute, childlike faces and bodies but wearing fairly accurate costumes of their adult counterparts.  These items came out around 1979 or so and you can still see them today in the ads in comics from that time (look for Mego ads).    I have also seen the Super Jrs advertized in some of those 1970s ads as being &#8216;plush&#8217;, but I have never seen these fabric versions in person.  </p>
<p>There was also one issue of those square little DC Digest books featuring the Super Jrs in a Christmas story complete with Santa Claus &#8212; it was OK (not as cute as the X-Babies if you ask me!).  It came out around 1981 or so.  English language.  Bought it right at the grocery store back in the day.  Never saw them appear again.    </p>
<p>I thought these were some sort of licensing experiment that went nowhere and I never heard of the European versions of these things until now.  Now I&#8217;ve got something else to collect and translate!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-43373</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The links for #85 all lead back to #84, as of 9 am Central, Saturday the 20th

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The links for #85 all lead back to #84, as of 9 am Central, Saturday the 20th</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-43167</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œName another comic where the lead character had his head cut off.â€

Was it the first or the second issue of the revival of &quot;The Question&quot; where he was just flat out killed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œName another comic where the lead character had his head cut off.â€</p>
<p>Was it the first or the second issue of the revival of &#8220;The Question&#8221; where he was just flat out killed?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Mills</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-42659</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It DID change publishersâ€”or at least imprintsâ€”when he got back to his own time and it became a more or less â€œnormalâ€ private eye series, shortly before it seemed to disappear.&#039;

Yeah, the company changed their name after a year and a half or so, &quot;re-launching&quot; all the titles mid-stream with new #1&#039;s. It was the sort of thing that desperate companies did in the 90&#039;s to artificially generate interest and hopefully inflate sales.

It was stupid. But then, the powers-that-were were basically idiots anyway, and never listened to us lowly editorial types.

Glad you enjoyed the series. Of all the Tekno/Big Entertainment titles, I think it was arguably the most consistent, quality-wise. We all worked extra-hard on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It DID change publishersâ€”or at least imprintsâ€”when he got back to his own time and it became a more or less â€œnormalâ€ private eye series, shortly before it seemed to disappear.&#8217;</p>
<p>Yeah, the company changed their name after a year and a half or so, &#8220;re-launching&#8221; all the titles mid-stream with new #1&#8242;s. It was the sort of thing that desperate companies did in the 90&#8242;s to artificially generate interest and hopefully inflate sales.</p>
<p>It was stupid. But then, the powers-that-were were basically idiots anyway, and never listened to us lowly editorial types.</p>
<p>Glad you enjoyed the series. Of all the Tekno/Big Entertainment titles, I think it was arguably the most consistent, quality-wise. We all worked extra-hard on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-42113</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Mills:

WOW! I liked that series, but it suddenly became virtually impossible to find, at least in Dallas. When visiting a comic shop somewhere else, there it was, still being published. Surprised me. It DID change publishers---or at least imprints---when he got back to his own time and it became a more or less &quot;normal&quot; private eye series, shortly before it seemed to disappear. But anyway, I liked it. My compliments on the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Mills:</p>
<p>WOW! I liked that series, but it suddenly became virtually impossible to find, at least in Dallas. When visiting a comic shop somewhere else, there it was, still being published. Surprised me. It DID change publishers&#8212;or at least imprints&#8212;when he got back to his own time and it became a more or less &#8220;normal&#8221; private eye series, shortly before it seemed to disappear. But anyway, I liked it. My compliments on the work.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Mills</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-42012</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Name another comic where the lead character had his head cut off.&quot;

I can.

Not that anybody remembers or read it, but in the 1996 series MICKEY SPILLANE&#039;S MIKE DANGER from Tekno*Comix, writer Max Collins had the hero&#039;s head cut off and plugged into a computer. An issue or so later, it was grafted onto a cloned body.

Why do I remember? Well, I edited that series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Name another comic where the lead character had his head cut off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can.</p>
<p>Not that anybody remembers or read it, but in the 1996 series MICKEY SPILLANE&#8217;S MIKE DANGER from Tekno*Comix, writer Max Collins had the hero&#8217;s head cut off and plugged into a computer. An issue or so later, it was grafted onto a cloned body.</p>
<p>Why do I remember? Well, I edited that series.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-41235</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:

You indicate that nobody seems to remember just how Ghost Rider became supernatural. This is pure speculation, I admit, but I&#039;ll bet you&#039;ll agree that it makes a lot of sense: As the visual look of the character was being developed, an artist drew him wearing a helmet that was &quot;painted&quot; to look like a skull, and that appearance put a whole new slant on the concept. Ask those who are still around and it may spark memories. At worst, they&#039;ll say, &quot;No, that&#039;s not how it happened.&quot; Worth a try, though, you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:</p>
<p>You indicate that nobody seems to remember just how Ghost Rider became supernatural. This is pure speculation, I admit, but I&#8217;ll bet you&#8217;ll agree that it makes a lot of sense: As the visual look of the character was being developed, an artist drew him wearing a helmet that was &#8220;painted&#8221; to look like a skull, and that appearance put a whole new slant on the concept. Ask those who are still around and it may spark memories. At worst, they&#8217;ll say, &#8220;No, that&#8217;s not how it happened.&#8221; Worth a try, though, you think?</p>
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		<title>By: jrnewto</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-41010</link>
		<dc:creator>jrnewto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Englehart claims co-creator credit for Ghost Rider.  A fan-boy at the time, it was one of his earliest times of contributing to Marvel.

His story goes that Gary Friedrich and Mike Ploog and Roy Thomas were in the Bullpen&#039;s one office (it had been Stan&#039;s). They were trying to make the new character work, but there were problems. Steve was either called in for a fresh perspective or wandered in on his own, and joined the discussion. They ran things up, down, and backwards, and he was able to contribute â€“ which is why, since he was still new, he saw it more as a fan-boy&#039;s dream date than anything else.  Steve suggests that whilst the events happened like this, he can&#039;t swear that it was Gary and Mike and Roy in the room. Mike&#039;s the dimmest in his mind, and it could have been Stan instead of Roy, though he doesnâ€™t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Englehart claims co-creator credit for Ghost Rider.  A fan-boy at the time, it was one of his earliest times of contributing to Marvel.</p>
<p>His story goes that Gary Friedrich and Mike Ploog and Roy Thomas were in the Bullpen&#8217;s one office (it had been Stan&#8217;s). They were trying to make the new character work, but there were problems. Steve was either called in for a fresh perspective or wandered in on his own, and joined the discussion. They ran things up, down, and backwards, and he was able to contribute â€“ which is why, since he was still new, he saw it more as a fan-boy&#8217;s dream date than anything else.  Steve suggests that whilst the events happened like this, he can&#8217;t swear that it was Gary and Mike and Roy in the room. Mike&#8217;s the dimmest in his mind, and it could have been Stan instead of Roy, though he doesnâ€™t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Ununnilium</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-37999</link>
		<dc:creator>Ununnilium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I read part of that Hell-Rider comic somewhere online, and it was terrible - the &quot;OMG we&#039;re adult!&quot; attitude of the 90s, filtered through the style of the 70s.

&quot;Obviously, the storylines must have evolved since the initial ideas were formulated, I donâ€™t think he had a Cyclops/Colossus romance plannedâ€¦&quot;

I dunno, I wouldn&#039;t put it past him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I read part of that Hell-Rider comic somewhere online, and it was terrible &#8211; the &#8220;OMG we&#8217;re adult!&#8221; attitude of the 90s, filtered through the style of the 70s.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously, the storylines must have evolved since the initial ideas were formulated, I donâ€™t think he had a Cyclops/Colossus romance plannedâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>I dunno, I wouldn&#8217;t put it past him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-37857</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say that I wondered about the word &quot;Astrologist,&quot; but didn&#039;t doubt it as it seemed a plausible error to make, in the event that it wasn&#039;t an obscure but officially acceptable alternative to astrologer. So don&#039;t kick yourself, DanCJ. And it doesn&#039;t turn up anything in the GCD, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say that I wondered about the word &#8220;Astrologist,&#8221; but didn&#8217;t doubt it as it seemed a plausible error to make, in the event that it wasn&#8217;t an obscure but officially acceptable alternative to astrologer. So don&#8217;t kick yourself, DanCJ. And it doesn&#8217;t turn up anything in the GCD, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-37852</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks about the Marvel/Shadow graphic novel guys. Glad to know I&#039;m not imagining it (like I apparently was with the last page of Warlord #2) or didn&#039;t just misread it. Not even sure which would have been worse. But, again, thanks guys (or gals, as the case may be; pardon my sexism!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks about the Marvel/Shadow graphic novel guys. Glad to know I&#8217;m not imagining it (like I apparently was with the last page of Warlord #2) or didn&#8217;t just misread it. Not even sure which would have been worse. But, again, thanks guys (or gals, as the case may be; pardon my sexism!).</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember hearing Marv Wolfman say at a convention in the &#039;80s that a big chunk of DC&#039;s business came from foreign sales and that books like Sugar and Spike were still going strong there even though they hadn&#039;t been published in North America in years. More recently, I remember someone (maybe it was Paul Levitz) say that a large amount of their market was actually Germany. Then there are characters like the Super Jrs (kind of like a Muppet Babies version of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman only it actually pre-dates Muppet Babies) which are so obscure I can&#039;t even find a reference to them online, but I know from European friends that this was a popular DC-licensed series in the &#039;70s (or at least popular enough to get their attention).

I&#039;ve always gotten a sense that one of the main reasons DC has been able to do comics for such a tiny market as the direct market world became over the past 25 years is that the profit from sales in foreign, non-English speaking markets is actually quite stronger than we realize. (And DC may be the only publisher outside of Disney to really benefit from this) It&#039;s one of the largely untold stories about DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember hearing Marv Wolfman say at a convention in the &#8217;80s that a big chunk of DC&#8217;s business came from foreign sales and that books like Sugar and Spike were still going strong there even though they hadn&#8217;t been published in North America in years. More recently, I remember someone (maybe it was Paul Levitz) say that a large amount of their market was actually Germany. Then there are characters like the Super Jrs (kind of like a Muppet Babies version of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman only it actually pre-dates Muppet Babies) which are so obscure I can&#8217;t even find a reference to them online, but I know from European friends that this was a popular DC-licensed series in the &#8217;70s (or at least popular enough to get their attention).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always gotten a sense that one of the main reasons DC has been able to do comics for such a tiny market as the direct market world became over the past 25 years is that the profit from sales in foreign, non-English speaking markets is actually quite stronger than we realize. (And DC may be the only publisher outside of Disney to really benefit from this) It&#8217;s one of the largely untold stories about DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-2/#comment-37753</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the Helfer/Baker Shadow...I always heard (so it would be great if Brian could examine it one Friday) that Conde Nast objected to &#039;updating&#039; it to the 1980s and the dark, satirical tone. Which is a shame as I loved that series-- it was risky and dangerous and funny in ways that I think probably overstepped the mark for a licensed character, but it made great comics. The cyborg Shadow was part of an ongoing storyline that was actually quite interesting and I was disappointed it was never wrapped up.

My hardback copy of Hitler&#039;s Astrologer also seems to have a missing page...that&#039;s also something worth investigating for this column. Hey Brian, how about an &#039;all Shadow&#039; column-- add Jerry Siegel&#039;s awful Archie version from the 60s and you&#039;re good to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Helfer/Baker Shadow&#8230;I always heard (so it would be great if Brian could examine it one Friday) that Conde Nast objected to &#8216;updating&#8217; it to the 1980s and the dark, satirical tone. Which is a shame as I loved that series&#8211; it was risky and dangerous and funny in ways that I think probably overstepped the mark for a licensed character, but it made great comics. The cyborg Shadow was part of an ongoing storyline that was actually quite interesting and I was disappointed it was never wrapped up.</p>
<p>My hardback copy of Hitler&#8217;s Astrologer also seems to have a missing page&#8230;that&#8217;s also something worth investigating for this column. Hey Brian, how about an &#8216;all Shadow&#8217; column&#8211; add Jerry Siegel&#8217;s awful Archie version from the 60s and you&#8217;re good to go!</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 19:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got it a bit wrong - It&#039;s Hitler&#039;s Astrologer (come to think of it I don&#039;t think Astologist is a real word).

I see what you mean.  The last panel in the book just has the caption &quot;NEW YORK CITY; V.E. DAY, 1945.&quot; and doesn&#039;t seem to relate to anything else.  I just checked Google and found someone else asking about it here http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/dennyoneil/?frames=n;read=1761&amp;expand=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got it a bit wrong &#8211; It&#8217;s Hitler&#8217;s Astrologer (come to think of it I don&#8217;t think Astologist is a real word).</p>
<p>I see what you mean.  The last panel in the book just has the caption &#8220;NEW YORK CITY; V.E. DAY, 1945.&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t seem to relate to anything else.  I just checked Google and found someone else asking about it here <a href="http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/dennyoneil/?frames=n;read=1761&amp;expand=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/dennyoneil/?frames=n;read=1761&amp;expand=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/04/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-84/comment-page-1/#comment-37578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DanCJ:

Looking forward to reading your findings. Thanks in advance. &quot;Hitler&#039;s Astrologist&quot; eh? I&#039;ll try that in the GCD&#039;s search engine....No, no luck that way, either. Didn&#039;t really expect any, of course, but no harm in trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DanCJ:</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading your findings. Thanks in advance. &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s Astrologist&#8221; eh? I&#8217;ll try that in the GCD&#8217;s search engine&#8230;.No, no luck that way, either. Didn&#8217;t really expect any, of course, but no harm in trying.</p>
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