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I second that. I think Brubaker put together a pretty cool story. I didn't think it was received so poorly, but I wasn't part of fandom on the internet at that point.
And those back up stories with Pete Woods were great, too.

You can count me in on this one. I picked up the premiere hardcover and really liked it. It was a cool story that, despite being a major retcon, actually made some sense in the context of things. Plus, the new characters were pretty memorable and it opened up the door for a cool miniseries somewhere down the road featuring a more in-depth look at the second X-Men team.

I have to agree. I usually hate big retcons, but somehow this one worked.

I didn't hate the story but I'm pretty much starting to hate the characters that have come out of it, both being insanely powerful - something I can't abide in my heroes/villains!

Ed Brubaker is great! He takes the most WRONG ideas you could have at Marvel (ressurect Bucky, show the third Summers brother) and creats great stories around them!
I don't know how he does it, but I'm all for that!

Besides, I'd always wanted to see Cyclops kick that bald patronizing manipulator out of the mansion. Yeah, I know how fanboyish is that, but I loved it anyway.

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Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

i kinda hoped that gambit was the 3rd summers brother...

maybe there'll be a do-over in house of m 2: revenge of the scarlet's twitch

It really wasn't that bad, it's just that Scott Lobdell beat this PROF X IS BAD dead horse over ten years ago. Still, it set off a good run on the current title.

I feel Brubaker's "Prof X is bad" story worked better than the one that Joss Whedon was doing in AXM at about the same time.

I bet it's one of those stories that worked collected better than monthly, which is how I read it.

I bet that Bru's current X-Men arc will be the same way, actually.

I kind of liked it too. The art, in particular, was quite good.

However, I think the story was fundamentally a letdown in that introducing a bunch of new characters rather than having Vulcan really be some existing character with some hidden backstory was really kind of cheap. But even if the climax was kind of lame, getting there was entertaining.

It's hard for me to care much about the X-Men these days, but I will probably check out "Decline and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire" when it comes out as a TPB.

"Ed Brubaker is great! He takes the most WRONG ideas you could have at Marvel (ressurect Bucky, show the third Summers brother) and creats great stories around them!"

Was the third brother Adam X?
Or did they drop that one?
And if they dropped it, what the hell is the issue with Adam X and Cyclop's grandfather about?

Why the hell do the comics and movies conspire against Professor Xavier? Were they really all just unable to find a way to make the character work as a good guy. I want to read this story, despite the implications for Charlie, because it can't be any worse than the trainwreck that was X3.

Adam X (Full name? Adam X The X-Treme. yeah, wow) was pretty much dropped. He was GOING to be the third Smothers Brother, but then no one cared about him ever.

I liked the backup stories better than the main one. That sort of look back is something I'd like to see peppered around more books, rather than just in the service of their intended story...

"Adam X (Full name? Adam X The X-Treme. yeah, wow) was pretty much dropped. He was GOING to be the third Smothers Brother, but then no one cared about him ever."

Great, now you've got me imagining Cyclops and Havok doing the "Mom always liked you best" routine. (The one with the bicycle and the cart, that is.)

Not many people know that Havok is actually a yo-yo expert...

So nobody else saw it as an extended and authorized Mary Sue story? "Oh, I'm the most powerful and the best X-Man even though I've just been invented and I can defeat all the characters that have been around for years, and I have the moral high ground above them, having been betrayed by them"?

I say it's spinach, and to hell with it.

Dang it - I thought I was being contentious! Good job, Bully, stepping up for the people who don't like it!

All your problems apply. It was still enjoyable. But you're right, and what makes it worse is that Brubaker created TWO omnipotent mutants - Vulcan and Darwin. Silly, as I pointed out. But still a pretty good story.

Powerful does not equal omnipotent. Vulcan is not all-powerful, just powerful. Aren't good villains supposed to be stronger than the heroes?

So far, he seems pretty all-powerful to me, Ian. And Darwin is, if possible, even more all-powerful. And this trend isn't just in the villains department with regard to mutants anymore, either. Emma used to be a nice dependable telepath. Now she has the diamond skin. What the crap? I just want mutants with one specific power that doesn't allow them to adapt to every situation and become more and more powerful. It's silly.

"I just want mutants with one specific power that doesn’t allow them to adapt to every situation and become more and more powerful. It’s silly."

Says the guy who loves Rogue. Make up your mind, man.

Rogue's mutant power is very specific. I never liked the fact that she stole Ms. Marvel's powers and could fly and have super-strength. And whenever she uses her very specific mutant power, she experiences a lot of horrible stuff that makes it less likely she will use it. If, whenver Vulcan used his power, something bad happened as well, that would be okay.

Rogue's specific power is to steal other powers. Come on.

And if it really made it any less likely she'd use it, she wouldn't have used it so many times.

"I just want mutants with one specific power that doesn’t allow them to adapt to every situation and become more and more powerful. It’s silly."

You don't want your mutants evolving?