Comments on: Into the back issue box #13 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:12:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Greg Burgas http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-129368 Greg Burgas Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:35:07 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-129368 Yeah, Dara, I realized that a while after I posted this, but I didn't feel like going back and changing it. Thanks for keeping me honest, though! Yeah, Dara, I realized that a while after I posted this, but I didn’t feel like going back and changing it. Thanks for keeping me honest, though!

]]> By: Dara http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-129360 Dara Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:24:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-129360 I think you're confusing Jeff Butler (the artist on this Green Hornet comic) with Steven Butler (the artist on Badger. Steven is much more talented, although he also produced some crappy work on books like Marvel's Silver Sable. The thing I always hated about Now comics was their awful coloring. It's that watercolor style that just washes out all the detail in the inks. I think you’re confusing Jeff Butler (the artist on this Green Hornet comic) with Steven Butler (the artist on Badger. Steven is much more talented, although he also produced some crappy work on books like Marvel’s Silver Sable.

The thing I always hated about Now comics was their awful coloring. It’s that watercolor style that just washes out all the detail in the inks.

]]> By: Evan Waters http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-42121 Evan Waters Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:38:13 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-42121 I just can't get past how incredibly stiff the art is. Like, Greg Land-ian stiff, without the excuse of obvious tracing. I just can’t get past how incredibly stiff the art is. Like, Greg Land-ian stiff, without the excuse of obvious tracing.

]]> By: fat free milk http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41242 fat free milk Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:55:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41242 Where does one find a green trenchcoat? Probably where the Joker shops also, eh? Where does one find a green trenchcoat? Probably where the Joker shops also, eh?

]]> By: mikesensei http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41166 mikesensei Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:05:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41166 I feel ancient, too. These were not great comics. Worse than that, they kept me from reading a really great comic for over a year, namely the Jack Knight Starman. Why? Because in the Green Hornet update was full of Legacy Hero stuff that was like catnip to me: The original Green Hornet was a descendant of the (unnamed but shown) Lone Ranger; his son (nephew?) was the cool sixties TV version, and the piano-playing Paul was the next generation. But Paul was the sensitive, piano-playing kid who wanted nothing to do with the legacy, and who had a gung-ho older brother who couldn’t wait to take on the heroic mantle. The brother gets blown away his first time out, and Paul reluctantly takes over the family business. Sound familiar? But remember, this all was written before James Robinson and Tony Harris gave us their Starman. The Green Hornet reboot wasn’t written well, but it was written first. SO…when, in a few panels in Zero Hour: Crisis in Time, the weak, injured Ted Knight passes the cosmic baton... Ted: I’m done. You’ll have to take over for me, David. David: Hot Diggety! Jack: Better you than me, bro’. ...I knew where they were going to go with it. When Starman issue #0 came out, and featured David Knight getting plugged in the first few pages, I put it back on the shelf, thinking, “Why would I want to read THAT again?” Just goes to show: execution (not meaning David’s) is everything. I started reading Starman from around #18, and kicked myself for having to play catch-up through back issues and trades. I feel ancient, too. These were not great comics. Worse than that, they kept me from reading a really great comic for over a year, namely the Jack Knight Starman. Why? Because in the Green Hornet update was full of Legacy Hero stuff that was like catnip to me: The original Green Hornet was a descendant of the (unnamed but shown) Lone Ranger; his son (nephew?) was the cool sixties TV version, and the piano-playing Paul was the next generation. But Paul was the sensitive, piano-playing kid who wanted nothing to do with the legacy, and who had a gung-ho older brother who couldn’t wait to take on the heroic mantle. The brother gets blown away his first time out, and Paul reluctantly takes over the family business.

Sound familiar? But remember, this all was written before James Robinson and Tony Harris gave us their Starman. The Green Hornet reboot wasn’t written well, but it was written first. SO…when, in a few panels in Zero Hour: Crisis in Time, the weak, injured Ted Knight passes the cosmic baton…

Ted: I’m done. You’ll have to take over for me, David.
David: Hot Diggety!
Jack: Better you than me, bro’.

…I knew where they were going to go with it. When Starman issue #0 came out, and featured David Knight getting plugged in the first few pages, I put it back on the shelf, thinking, “Why would I want to read THAT again?”

Just goes to show: execution (not meaning David’s) is everything. I started reading Starman from around #18, and kicked myself for having to play catch-up through back issues and trades.

]]> By: Greg Hatcher http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41161 Greg Hatcher Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:27:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41161 You guys make me feel really ancient sometimes. I actually bought this book when it came out; the idea was that this was the third generation of the Green Hornet. First was Britt Reid and Ikano Kato, in the 1940's (radio show) the second was Britt Reid II and Hayashi Kato (60's TV show) and the third was the comic book. The book coasted for about a year on the goodwill of those of us who loved the Hornet and wanted a comic to succeed, and also because the book had amazing, amazing covers. Greg managed to bird-dog one of the few really awful ones here, but mostly you had extraordinary paintings from guys like Dave Dorman and Steranko and Neal Adams. The licensor threw a fit about Mishi Kato, by the way, saying the new Kato couldn't be a girl, and so she was promptly written out and her new male cousin introduced. So the apartment thing went nowhere... but it probably was supposed to. It was canceled a couple of months after this, then revived with Chuck Dixon writing. He did a much better job, and one of the first things he did was get rid of that horrible car. But I think Now comics had the same kind of gladly-pay-you-Tuesday attitude that a lot of new comics companies seem to suffer from and as soon as people stopped getting paid the talented folks all fled. Believe it or not, I think the Hornet was their biggest hit. Mostly because of idiots like me that kept hoping it would get good. I've learned since then to only actually spend the money if I LIKE a book. But I was young and foolish then. You guys make me feel really ancient sometimes. I actually bought this book when it came out; the idea was that this was the third generation of the Green Hornet. First was Britt Reid and Ikano Kato, in the 1940′s (radio show) the second was Britt Reid II and Hayashi Kato (60′s TV show) and the third was the comic book.

The book coasted for about a year on the goodwill of those of us who loved the Hornet and wanted a comic to succeed, and also because the book had amazing, amazing covers. Greg managed to bird-dog one of the few really awful ones here, but mostly you had extraordinary paintings from guys like Dave Dorman and Steranko and Neal Adams. The licensor threw a fit about Mishi Kato, by the way, saying the new Kato couldn’t be a girl, and so she was promptly written out and her new male cousin introduced. So the apartment thing went nowhere… but it probably was supposed to.

It was canceled a couple of months after this, then revived with Chuck Dixon writing. He did a much better job, and one of the first things he did was get rid of that horrible car. But I think Now comics had the same kind of gladly-pay-you-Tuesday attitude that a lot of new comics companies seem to suffer from and as soon as people stopped getting paid the talented folks all fled.

Believe it or not, I think the Hornet was their biggest hit. Mostly because of idiots like me that kept hoping it would get good. I’ve learned since then to only actually spend the money if I LIKE a book. But I was young and foolish then.

]]> By: SallyP http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41157 SallyP Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:40:01 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41157 Excuse me, but why is Hal Jordan running around in a green trenchcoat and a hat? It's not a good look, and hides your best asset (heh heh) And what kind of sicko eats while playing the piano? Excuse me, but why is Hal Jordan running around in a green trenchcoat and a hat? It’s not a good look, and hides your best asset (heh heh)

And what kind of sicko eats while playing the piano?

]]> By: DinoMike http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41151 DinoMike Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:05:56 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41151 OK, to make things even worse... the 60s Hornet rode around in a customized Chrysler Imperial limo. THESE rejects are riding around in a ripoff of the "Knight 4000" from the "Knight Rider 2000" movie. Who ordered extra cheese? OK, to make things even worse… the 60s Hornet rode around in a customized Chrysler Imperial limo.

THESE rejects are riding around in a ripoff of the “Knight 4000″ from the “Knight Rider 2000″ movie.

Who ordered extra cheese?

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/comment-page-1/#comment-41108 John Seavey Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:02:31 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/14/into-the-back-issue-box-13/#comment-41108 What is with Kato's hair? I mean, she must have a serious styling gel budget, or else a small portable Van de Graaf generator in her mask. Either way, it's messed up. What is with Kato’s hair? I mean, she must have a serious styling gel budget, or else a small portable Van de Graaf generator in her mask. Either way, it’s messed up.

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