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Jumping On Points for Two Comics That Will Not Die (Part 1)
- by Brad Curran
- in General
 Today I am taking a look at two ongoings that could very well make the claim that they are the Matt Hardy of comics, Manhunter and Spider-Girl. Both have escaped the hangman's noose of cancellation multiple times due to passionate fan bases who pounded the figurative pavement online to keep them alive (which is sort of applicable to Matt's career, even if there's no equivalent for the whole Edge and Lita thing that I can think of). Despite their passionate fan bases, stardom remains beyond their grasp. And, given their constant struggles, you have to ask yourself; maybe they don't deserve to be doing any better, or be in the big leagues at all. That's something I'm going to be considering along with accessibility when I look at the latest issue of both comics. The Amazing Spider-Girl #4 by DeFalco, Frenz, Buscema, et al., Marvel Comics
I have a lot of snark for this comic. I mean, it's bursting at the seems. I look at that creative team and think, "Yes, because nothing says credible portrayl of a teenage girl like Tom DeFalco, Ron Frenz, and Sal Freakin' Buscema!" I look at the title and think "Do they really think adding an adjective is going to increase sales?" I remember reading actually reading this comic for awhile, many years back (because that passionate fanbase had sold me when I was looking to get in to comics, and because my local grocery store carried it), and eventually dropping it because it was so subplot heavy, I remember coming up with the phrase "slower than Bendis" to describe it. So yeah, I was going in expecting to not like this too much. But it wasn't that bad.
It wasn't that good, mind you. And the snark just keeps coming with the issue's main antagonist, Mad Dog, who in theory is a really cool idea (a bounty hunter who uses all of the gadgets he took as trophies off of Spider-Man villains), but in practice is rendered to look like a middle aged Kirby-Tech tourist from Minnesota or something. That didn't endear me to the book. And it's still so incredibly old school that there are something like 36 ongoing subplots or so taking up space in the book. Also, and this could be my rampant sexism at work here, Mayday just isn't as compelling a character as her dear old dad. Maybe it's because I've seen this routine before, but I just don't care about her the way I do the various incarnations of teenage Peter Parker. I will fully cop to the fact that, since she is not a put upon nerd, her set up isn't the same. I mean, she's running for student council, for god's sake; Peter never managed that.
All of that aside, this is a fairly accessible comic, in the way that any Tom DeFalco written comic is. The plot and characters are elaborated on through the dialogue and narration (and thank god, he's dropped the second person narrative in the captions since I last read this title). DeFalco's refined his style enough that the exposition is fairly natural, or at least not as forced as it would have been in, say, his '80s Spider-Man run with Frenz. The story so far page helps a lot, too.
Even the art is better than I anticipated. I usually find Frenz about as dynamic as Ned Flander's breakfast, but having a Buscema to ink your work does wonders, as it looks a lot beter than I remember it being when the art was the other reason I stopped reading this years ago.
Over all, this is a comic that's old school enough to be accessible, but probably too old school to really reach a bigger audience, I think. In a lot of ways, I think it's more old school than the old school comics it's clearly emulating; it copies all the tropes of Lee/Ditko/Romita Spider-Man without any of their verve, imagination, or wit. It's steak without sizzle, vanilla ice cream without sprinkles; competently done, but dull, and almost too inoffensive. I find it sort of comforting that, in this day and age of Civil Wars and Ultimizations and what not, that Tom DeFalco can have his own little corner to play in and advance the continuity of the long dead M2 line of comics, with this and Avengers Next. But that doesn't mean I actually like the comics, or think that there isn't a decent reason that they keep getting almost cancelled beyond the fact that Joe Quesada's a jerk or whatever. But if you're desperate for solid teen age superheroics but want something that's (sort of) more modern than the various Essentials and Masterworks of better material out there; if you are desperate for Bronze Age Marvel storytelling; or you just want to support the last Marvel Editor in Chief to laugh at himself, then you can jump in to this comic pretty easily.
Next: Part two, where I look at Manhunter. This is being serialized because, well, dinner's on, and I have priorities, damn it.
- Posted on January 14, 2007 @ 05:00 PM






13 Comments
Bill Reed
January 14, 2007 at 5:11 pm
The latest issue of Spider-Girl is hilarious because Mad Dog is actually Mad Dog Rassitano, member of Code BLUE, who showed up way back during DeFalco's Thor run. There's some nepotistic continuity for you.
John Seavey
January 14, 2007 at 6:28 pm
I'm the opposite from you, really: I think it's surprising this comic isn't selling better. Not that I think it's much better than you do; I just think the flaws you pointed out are flaws that are big to "comics fans", the people who read lots of comics and participate in fan culture, but that are assets to casual readers and younger readers. If a copy of this, and a copy of the latest issue of New Avengers, were distributed to every American under the age of 18, with the question, "Which would you be more likely to buy another issue of?" I think that comics readers would be disturbed to find out how very much of a minority they are.
The Mutt
January 14, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Hee! So who is the Al Snow of comics?
Brad
January 15, 2007 at 11:55 am
I'd have to figure out who the Mick Foley is of comics, and then see who they torment ceaselessly to figure that one out.
Brad
January 15, 2007 at 11:59 am
That's an interesting point, John, and given that I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was doing well in digests (which is why it survived one of the cancellations), I think its strengths as an entry level/casual fan comic are probably greater than I'm giving it credit for. I don't have any problem with that kind of storytelling, either; I just think DeFalco and Frenz are kind of boring. They did create Silver Sable, if I remember correctly, though, so that's something.
Edward Liu
January 15, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Vaguely related to John's point, I always felt that Spider-Girl has everything that all the "Why aren't comics FUN any more?" whiner crowd asks for when asked to define "fun," and yet few if any of them ever seem to be buying or reading Spider-Girl. That leads me to think that either they still don't know about it after all this time or what they're asking for is not really what they want. Or that they really need to append "with Batman or Spider-Man" after the "comics" part in their question.
Bryan
January 15, 2007 at 5:04 pm
If comic book message boards have taught me anything, it's that once a pro wrestler's name shows up in the text, it's not going to be worth reading the rest of what is written. This article did not prove otherwise. Between the snark and the "wrote this in less time than it takes to read" feel of it, this is the first time I've read something on this site that made me think "This is not a good, well-thought out or interesting take." I'm kinda bummed out now.
Bully
January 15, 2007 at 8:50 pm
If a copy of this, and a copy of the latest issue of New Avengers, were distributed to every American under the age of 18, with the question, “Which would you be more likely to buy another issue of?â€
Realistically, though, John, the answer to this is "neither."
SwanShadow
January 16, 2007 at 1:43 am
Edward, I'm a member of that "wish comics were more fun" crowd you mention, but I 'm the one who actually reads -- and, more importantly, supports with my dollars -- books like Spider-Girl and Avengers Next.
Do I want every comic in my LCS to be exactly like them? Well, no. But I'm glad at least a few books like this still survive. I appreciate creators like DeFalco, Frenz, Buscema, et al., who are willing to go against the popular grain and cater to those of us who enjoy a little old-school superhero romp once a month. Good on 'em, I say.
The Mutt
January 16, 2007 at 6:46 am
I nominate Nick Fury as the Mick Foley of comics. They both suceeded in in switching from one type of character to another. Nick from Sgt to Spy; Mick from Texas Tough Guy to Demented Freak Show. Nick and Mick both have the same superpower too: "I'm Tougher than you". They both work better in a supporting role. Their second incarnation had the better costumes. They both lost a piece of their heads in combat.
What about Dude Love, you say? Two words for ya: David Hasselhoff.
Evan Waters
January 16, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I've been following ASG since the reboot, and it is close to the sort of stuff what I like. It hasn't wowed me to the point where I must absolutely buy it and encourage others to grab it off shelves, but it's a solid, well-done title that I'll continue to support unless it starts getting dull.
Jeff Albertson
January 17, 2007 at 11:09 am
I don't want every book to be like Spider-Girl, but it's good to have at least one book out there with the old Marvel spirit.
The subplot heavy style makes me look forward to each issue, whereas styles like decompression make me not want to buy an individual issue, and make the trades disappointing, in that they are discrete stories that give no sense of character progression - which was a big part of the appeal of the Marvel Universe way back when.
Anyway, I'm glad to see Marvel still giving it a shot, and expect to buy it as long as Tom DeFalco is writing it.
mfbinc
January 25, 2007 at 12:25 am
Mad Dog Rassitano is not some" middle aged Kirby-Tech tourist from Minnesota or something." He's actually based on and looks just like a middle aged comic book store owner from Pittsburgh(with a slight tweak to his last name). I know because I shop there and the owner made a big deal about it and bought a million copies. Of course we all got a kick out of it(and bought more than one copy).