Comments on: Beanworld, Larry Marder and Me. A Formal Complaint. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:35:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Doctor Clu http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-67767 Doctor Clu Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:12:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-67767 I got an issue from a friend of mine. Checked it out, and loved it. :D I have a few strange comic book loves that I would like to see more of. Mainly so I can revisit old "friends" and see how they did. DC had the "Tangent" comic line which was a fun comic line in 1997 and 1998. They left their version of the Atom, Flash, Manhunter, Joker, Plastic Man, and Phantom (remember that in the tangent world only the name is familiar) of the Secret Six (the Tangent Justice League basically) apparently dead and defeated at the hands of the Ultra-Humanite. And they left no indication of what the actual outcome was for ten years. Finally last year in Infinate Crisis, we see them scrambling to save people on their world, and later in Ion this year it is shown they are still alive, though kinda in stasis. I can not tell you how HAPPY I was see them!! I was just elated. But so often these comics with great stories leave us hanging for whatever reason. I have to admit though, the world of Tangent and Beanworld are common in one way.. they INSPIRE THE IMAGINATION. In a way, do we really want it all spelled out to us? Isn't it sometimes more fun to imagine, to finally break down and maybe write your own story on how it ended? I know I have. :) Anyway, getting into Beanworld now, and just love it. I got an issue from a friend of mine. Checked it out, and loved it. :D

I have a few strange comic book loves that I would like to see more of. Mainly so I can revisit old "friends" and see how they did.

DC had the "Tangent" comic line which was a fun comic line in 1997 and 1998. They left their version of the Atom, Flash, Manhunter, Joker, Plastic Man, and Phantom (remember that in the tangent world only the name is familiar) of the Secret Six (the Tangent Justice League basically) apparently dead and defeated at the hands of the Ultra-Humanite. And they left no indication of what the actual outcome was for ten years. Finally last year in Infinate Crisis, we see them scrambling to save people on their world, and later in Ion this year it is shown they are still alive, though kinda in stasis. I can not tell you how HAPPY I was see them!! I was just elated. But so often these comics with great stories leave us hanging for whatever reason. I have to admit though, the world of Tangent and Beanworld are common in one way.. they INSPIRE THE IMAGINATION. In a way, do we really want it all spelled out to us? Isn't it sometimes more fun to imagine, to finally break down and maybe write your own story on how it ended? I know I have. :)

Anyway, getting into Beanworld now, and just love it.

]]> By: John http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-59222 John Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:33:20 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-59222 Beanworld was really something else. The first issue I got was #12, quickly filled in the back issues (though I never got #1, and read it only in the collection) and waited shaking with anxiety for each future issue. I loved it so much, poring over the letter columns, trying to figure everything out, trying to draw it all...god, I could barely deal with it. I agree - I don't think he owes us anything, but it would be really nice if he would make a statement to the thousands of people that followed it for all those years. It was a really great thing that pushed people in many directions...even if he doesn't care about it anymore or for whatever reason isn't going to continue it, he should know how huge it was for some of us that did buy it. Beanworld was really something else. The first issue I got was #12, quickly filled in the back issues (though I never got #1, and read it only in the collection) and waited shaking with anxiety for each future issue. I loved it so much, poring over the letter columns, trying to figure everything out, trying to draw it all...god, I could barely deal with it.

I agree - I don't think he owes us anything, but it would be really nice if he would make a statement to the thousands of people that followed it for all those years. It was a really great thing that pushed people in many directions...even if he doesn't care about it anymore or for whatever reason isn't going to continue it, he should know how huge it was for some of us that did buy it.

]]> By: rToady http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-57628 rToady Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:38:10 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-57628 You are absolutely 100% right, Mark. The beanworld changed the way I saw comics, and art in general.The whole thing is just baffling. If I knew how to get hold of Marder you can bet your ass I would, if only, as you say, to hear him tell me to "Fuck off, I don't give a shit about those beans anymore!" Which would be fair. You are absolutely 100% right, Mark. The beanworld changed the way I saw comics, and art in general.The whole thing is just baffling. If I knew how to get hold of Marder you can bet your ass I would, if only, as you say, to hear him tell me to "Fuck off, I don't give a shit about those beans anymore!" Which would be fair.

]]> By: Jason Turner http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-44216 Jason Turner Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:46:12 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-44216 That is cool that you reposted this Brian, and that you wrote it in the first place Mark. And hey look at all these other people agreeing! In my rereading of the series this week, I have gotten to issue 19, and already in the letter pages there are shadows looming, as Mr. Marder doesn't manage to go bi-monthly, there are references to lower sales, and he gets distracted from his Life Work by a gig helping comic stores market themselves... Today I imagined him working away on Beanworld out of the public eye, and it would one day appear like Marcel Duchamp with Given: 1 The Waterfall, 2. The Illuminating Gas. That is cool that you reposted this Brian, and that you wrote it in the first place Mark. And hey look at all these other people agreeing!

In my rereading of the series this week, I have gotten to issue 19, and already in the letter pages there are shadows looming, as Mr. Marder doesn't manage to go bi-monthly, there are references to lower sales, and he gets distracted from his Life Work by a gig helping comic stores market themselves...

Today I imagined him working away on Beanworld out of the public eye, and it would one day appear like Marcel Duchamp with Given: 1 The Waterfall, 2. The Illuminating Gas.

]]> By: Stephane Bura http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-44121 Stephane Bura Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:11:13 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-44121 Btw, Chad, I suspected the influence of TOTB in your beautifully lean "Monkey, Ninja, Pirate, Robot". Cool :) (if I'm not totally wrong) Btw, Chad, I suspected the influence of TOTB in your beautifully lean "Monkey, Ninja, Pirate, Robot".

Cool :) (if I'm not totally wrong)

]]> By: Stephane Bura http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-44119 Stephane Bura Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:05:42 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-44119 Great post. Even if I'm not that angry ;) it totally reflects how I feel about TOTB and what this comics means to me. Every year or so, I scout the web hoping to find news that the Beanworld is back. Since there are some hardcore fans here, here's some secret about the Beanworld that (I expect) very few people know about. I'm the proud winner of one of the Do-It-Yourself Beanworld contests and I received a certificate. It's a drawing that (possibly) hints at the future of the beans and the nature of the Float Factor: The beans will build stairs in the sky with the mystery pods. Yeah, not knowing more is killing me too. Great post.
Even if I'm not that angry ;) it totally reflects how I feel about TOTB and what this comics means to me. Every year or so, I scout the web hoping to find news that the Beanworld is back.

Since there are some hardcore fans here, here's some secret about the Beanworld that (I expect) very few people know about. I'm the proud winner of one of the Do-It-Yourself Beanworld contests and I received a certificate. It's a drawing that (possibly) hints at the future of the beans and the nature of the Float Factor: The beans will build stairs in the sky with the mystery pods.

Yeah, not knowing more is killing me too.

]]> By: David Akers http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43988 David Akers Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:50:23 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43988 Okay, I did some searching and it was beanpress@aol.com, like is shown on the Beanweb (www.proaxis.com/~half/BeanWeb/home.html). -David Okay, I did some searching and it was beanpress@aol.com, like is shown on the Beanweb (www.proaxis.com/~half/BeanWeb/home.html).

-David

]]> By: David Akers http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43987 David Akers Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:47:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43987 I think it was something like beanworld@aol.com. Another thing that should be mentioned is that when he released a bunch of the ashcans he kept talking about "Float Factor," the new Beanworld he was working on that still hasn't seen either the light of day or the ink of printer. And those ashcans came out not long after the Asylum issues. -David I think it was something like beanworld@aol.com.

Another thing that should be mentioned is that when he released a bunch of the ashcans he kept talking about "Float Factor," the new Beanworld he was working on that still hasn't seen either the light of day or the ink of printer. And those ashcans came out not long after the Asylum issues.

-David

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43944 MarkAndrew Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:31:46 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43944 Also, the Spawn.com message boards went down the *second* I tried to register. (Thinking that, y'know, maybe L. M. hangs out there.) I'm not saying there's a conspiracy or anything, mind. Nope. I AM saying I'm really, really glad my job doesn't entail my talking to Spawn fans very often. Also, the Spawn.com message boards went down the *second* I tried to register. (Thinking that, y'know, maybe L. M. hangs out there.)

I'm not saying there's a conspiracy or anything, mind.

Nope.

I AM saying I'm really, really glad my job doesn't entail my talking to Spawn fans very often.

]]> By: Evan Waters http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43943 Evan Waters Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:25:36 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43943 I don't think he owes us new Beanworld, but an explanation as to the lack of new Beanworld would be nice. If it's just "I can't make a living off of this" or even "I'm finally out of ideas and don't think I can do it justice anymore", that's fine. I don't think he owes us new Beanworld, but an explanation as to the lack of new Beanworld would be nice. If it's just "I can't make a living off of this" or even "I'm finally out of ideas and don't think I can do it justice anymore", that's fine.

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43938 MarkAndrew Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:06:54 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43938 Hey David. What E-mail did you use? I e-mailed him when I originally wrote this thread (year 'r so ago) but didn't get a response. (I think the e-mail itself was returned-to-sendered.) And then I just gave up, 'cause lazy. Wonder if it was the same one? But since this post is back I'll try some 'o the paper-mail addresses I found on the Beanworld website. Anyone else got any contact info? Hey David.

What E-mail did you use? I e-mailed him when I originally wrote this thread (year 'r so ago) but didn't get a response. (I think the e-mail itself was returned-to-sendered.)

And then I just gave up, 'cause lazy.

Wonder if it was the same one?

But since this post is back I'll try some 'o the paper-mail addresses I found on the Beanworld website.

Anyone else got any contact info?

]]> By: Bill D. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43902 Bill D. Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:49:45 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43902 You know, I've always said that if he's not going to ever get back to the series, they should at least finish collecting the stuff that did get published. Beanworld Vol. 5 is way up near the tippity top of my trade paperback dream list. You know, I've always said that if he's not going to ever get back to the series, they should at least finish collecting the stuff that did get published. Beanworld Vol. 5 is way up near the tippity top of my trade paperback dream list.

]]> By: David Akers http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43894 David Akers Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:19:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43894 Good luck getting a response from him through the email address. I tried that a couple years ago to get the ashcans I was missing and he never responded. And if he wouldn't respond to an actual request to *give* him money, I doubt he'll respond to a request to do actual work. And my complete set of Beanworld is one of my pride and joys. And yes, I bought every freaking trade, that's how important the series is to me. -David Good luck getting a response from him through the email address. I tried that a couple years ago to get the ashcans I was missing and he never responded. And if he wouldn't respond to an actual request to *give* him money, I doubt he'll respond to a request to do actual work.

And my complete set of Beanworld is one of my pride and joys. And yes, I bought every freaking trade, that's how important the series is to me.

-David

]]> By: Jeff Albertson http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43877 Jeff Albertson Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:49:47 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43877 Bean World, Eye of Mongombo, Hep Cats, Big Numbers, Barry Windsor-Smith Storyteller, Owl Hoots, Journey: Wardrums. Waiting for all of them. Bean World, Eye of Mongombo, Hep Cats, Big Numbers, Barry Windsor-Smith Storyteller, Owl Hoots, Journey: Wardrums.

Waiting for all of them.

]]> By: Douglas http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43865 Douglas Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:23:59 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43865 I would LOVE to see more Beanworld. Come back, Larry! All is forgiven! And by "all" I mean how long you've made us wait...! I would LOVE to see more Beanworld. Come back, Larry! All is forgiven! And by "all" I mean how long you've made us wait...!

]]> By: Chad Underkoffler http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43851 Chad Underkoffler Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:09:18 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43851 I desperately need copies of Volumes 3 and 4. Gah! CU I desperately need copies of Volumes 3 and 4.

Gah!

CU

]]> By: Beta Ray Steve http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43845 Beta Ray Steve Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:23:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43845 Twelve years? Does this make him the reigning champ of lateness? Hey Jim Lee! Don't let those ASBARTW pages fly out the door, man! Twelve years? Does this make him the reigning champ of lateness?
Hey Jim Lee! Don't let those ASBARTW pages fly out the door, man!

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43840 MarkAndrew Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:43:29 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43840 And that's another thing! While Beanworld: volume one is still fairly readily available, and there's a decent number of volume twos about, three and four are REALLY tough to find; I did a search for vol. four a few months back an' found nothing. And that's another thing! While Beanworld: volume one is still fairly readily available, and there's a decent number of volume twos about, three and four are REALLY tough to find; I did a search for vol. four a few months back an' found nothing.

]]> By: Clayton Emery http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43817 Clayton Emery Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:08:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43817 If you're going to complain about unfinished comics, you'll be here all day. Like all rejected lovers, I could strangle Ty Templeton for ditching STIG'S INFERNO (and I don't care if Klaus Whatisname died. Would Klaus have told Ty to finish the story?). And Ben Edlund for quitting THE TICK for Hollywood. And Doug Grey(?) for never finishing EYE OF MONGOMBO. And Mark Schultz for never finishing XENOZOIC TALES. And... And... And... fill in the blanks. I SUPPORTED those books, buying them faithfully and sending in encouragement, until the authors just "got a better deal" and moved on. Thanks for leaving us hanging, guys! Clayton Emery AKA Sarah Hargate Webmaster, Challengers of the Unknown http://www.challengersoftheunknown.com If you're going to complain about unfinished comics, you'll be here all day. Like all rejected lovers, I could strangle Ty Templeton for ditching STIG'S INFERNO (and I don't care if Klaus Whatisname died. Would Klaus have told Ty to finish the story?). And Ben Edlund for quitting THE TICK for Hollywood. And Doug Grey(?) for never finishing EYE OF MONGOMBO. And Mark Schultz for never finishing XENOZOIC TALES. And... And... And... fill in the blanks. I SUPPORTED those books, buying them faithfully and sending in encouragement, until the authors just "got a better deal" and moved on. Thanks for leaving us hanging, guys!

Clayton Emery AKA Sarah Hargate
Webmaster, Challengers of the Unknown
http://www.challengersoftheunknown.com

]]> By: E.D. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/comment-page-1/#comment-43816 E.D. Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:08:14 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/22/dealing-from-the-bottom-of-the-deck-beanworld-larry-marder-and-me-a-formal-complaint/#comment-43816 I'd settle for new editions of the TPBs. I'd settle for new editions of the TPBs.

]]>