Comments on: I Like Superheroes, But...* (Part 1 in a possible series; no guarantees) http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:59:31 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Hefner http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-50686 John Hefner Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:51:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-50686 I urge you to check out the DAREDEVIL Director's Cut. It is utterly amazing what a few cut scenes and thirty minutes extra footage can do to a movie. The uncut version of DD is easily, *easily* as good as the first SPIDER-MAN movie. Of course, I say that as someone who thinks the first SPIDER-MAN movie is great but flawed like crazy. Seriously, check out the DD Director's Cut. It actually made me happy to buy and own. That's no small thing, especially considering the version that reached theatres. I urge you to check out the DAREDEVIL Director's Cut. It is utterly amazing what a few cut scenes and thirty minutes extra footage can do to a movie. The uncut version of DD is easily, *easily* as good as the first SPIDER-MAN movie.

Of course, I say that as someone who thinks the first SPIDER-MAN movie is great but flawed like crazy.

Seriously, check out the DD Director's Cut. It actually made me happy to buy and own. That's no small thing, especially considering the version that reached theatres.

]]> By: Apodaca http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-47746 Apodaca Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:27:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-47746 "It isn’t exactly anything new, and it certainly isn’t mind-blowing (what is these days?)" The Venture Brothers Tom Goes to the Mayor "It isn’t exactly anything new, and it certainly isn’t mind-blowing (what is these days?)"

The Venture Brothers
Tom Goes to the Mayor

]]> By: ninjawookie http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-47101 ninjawookie Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:43:17 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-47101 so you didn't see batman begins then? Also Catwoman was better than Elektra, because it divorced itself from having anything to do with the comic book. so you didn't see batman begins then?

Also Catwoman was better than Elektra, because it divorced itself from having anything to do with the comic book.

]]> By: stealthwise http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-47011 stealthwise Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:38:35 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-47011 Holy crap, your post is almost word for word what I've been thinking since having a conversation with my wife about why I don't care much to see superhero stuff anymore. I don't care about the stuff coming out, I don't care about Heroes, and I just don't care just because something's a superhero movie. Though I did see Spider-man 7 times in the theatre, despite how crappy it was. Holy crap, your post is almost word for word what I've been thinking since having a conversation with my wife about why I don't care much to see superhero stuff anymore. I don't care about the stuff coming out, I don't care about Heroes, and I just don't care just because something's a superhero movie.

Though I did see Spider-man 7 times in the theatre, despite how crappy it was.

]]> By: StocDred http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46985 StocDred Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:38:48 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46985 What drives me crazy about Heroes is all the people watching/loving it who would never ever deign to pick up an actual comic book. Our beloved medium is, physically, its own worst enemy. What drives me crazy about Heroes is all the people watching/loving it who would never ever deign to pick up an actual comic book.

Our beloved medium is, physically, its own worst enemy.

]]> By: Bill Reed http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46947 Bill Reed Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:18:43 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46947 <blockquote>Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick?</blockquote> If Edgar Wright is still the director when it comes out, then I probably will. Anyway, I love superheroes. They're just rarely done *right.* Heroes looks like crap. Ghost Rider looks like all the bits with dialogue will be crap. I'm even tentative with my excitement for Spidey 3, because of the huge plot it seems to have, and I love Sam Raimi. As for comics... yeah. The good ones are good, the bad ones are spectacularly awful, and the mediocre ones are not worth looking at. I demand excellence.

Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick?

If Edgar Wright is still the director when it comes out, then I probably will.

Anyway, I love superheroes. They're just rarely done *right.*

Heroes looks like crap. Ghost Rider looks like all the bits with dialogue will be crap. I'm even tentative with my excitement for Spidey 3, because of the huge plot it seems to have, and I love Sam Raimi.

As for comics... yeah. The good ones are good, the bad ones are spectacularly awful, and the mediocre ones are not worth looking at. I demand excellence.

]]> By: Bry http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46908 Bry Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:27:44 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46908 I do agree with a lot you said here. Then again, I can barely get excited about super heroes in actual <i>comic books</i> these days. (Aside from All-Star Superman, of course, which is mind-blowingly awesome in every way.) I watched about 20-25 minutes of the first "Heroes" episode before I turned it off out of boredom, and I haven't bothered tuning in again. On the flipside, I am excited for Spider-Man 3 and TMNT, and will definitely watch Iron Man - Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark is goddamn inspired casting. I do agree with a lot you said here. Then again, I can barely get excited about super heroes in actual comic books these days. (Aside from All-Star Superman, of course, which is mind-blowingly awesome in every way.)

I watched about 20-25 minutes of the first "Heroes" episode before I turned it off out of boredom, and I haven't bothered tuning in again.

On the flipside, I am excited for Spider-Man 3 and TMNT, and will definitely watch Iron Man - Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark is goddamn inspired casting.

]]> By: Ian http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46829 Ian Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:38:43 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46829 Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick? That depends on a lot of things, the least of which being the character. Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick?

That depends on a lot of things, the least of which being the character.

]]> By: Rebis http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46821 Rebis Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:06:26 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46821 Well, it isn't really fair to judge superhero depictions in other media by the hilariously bad Catwoman. As a metaphor, "car wreck of a film" doesn't begin to describe it. "Exploding Zeppelin" is more like it. (But hey, unlike most of the other unfortunates who saw it, I did get paid to sit through it.) Superman Returns wasn't flawless by any means but it was overall enjoyable and waaaay better than X-3. But the first two Spidey films and Batman Begins are easily the best of the recent crop. Well, it isn't really fair to judge superhero depictions in other media by the hilariously bad Catwoman. As a metaphor, "car wreck of a film" doesn't begin to describe it. "Exploding Zeppelin" is more like it. (But hey, unlike most of the other unfortunates who saw it, I did get paid to sit through it.)

Superman Returns wasn't flawless by any means but it was overall enjoyable and waaaay better than X-3. But the first two Spidey films and Batman Begins are easily the best of the recent crop.

]]> By: Lamson http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46813 Lamson Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:25:23 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46813 Based on the previews, Ghost Rider looks like it will make Catwoman look like Citizen Kane. Talk about bad - and that's just the look of Nic Cage's hair! I think that what really needs to happen is somebody needs to tell Marvel to SLOW down. Just because they have a bazillion characters does not mean they all deserve a movie. Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick? Based on the previews, Ghost Rider looks like it will make Catwoman look like Citizen Kane. Talk about bad - and that's just the look of Nic Cage's hair!

I think that what really needs to happen is somebody needs to tell Marvel to SLOW down. Just because they have a bazillion characters does not mean they all deserve a movie. Seriously, how many people are going to plunk down 10 bucks for an Ant Man flick?

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46776 John Seavey Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:03:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46776 'Heroes' has the Ninth Doctor. Have I mentioned that while I, like you, only like superheroes conditionally, I have an absolute pure and perfect love for 'Doctor Who' and cannot view anything even tangentially associated with it with anything other than a child's adoration? Um, except for 'Fear Her', from season two of the new series. As to superhero movies...yeah, I'd agree, I'm not going to see them for their own sake. But I will be seeing 'Ghost Rider', because I really like the core concept of "man sells soul to devil to save foster dad, becomes demon biker, redeemed by love of girlfriend into becoming superhero", and I think that it might be better with a fresh start than with all the baggage of the comics. Plus, flaming skull-headed biker looks freaking awesome with modern FX technology. :) Oh, and X3 was pretty good, BTW; it was just that it wasn't great like the other two so the fans kinda dissed it. But it's worth a rental. (Like you, though, I couldn't be bothered to see 'Superman Returns'. And I thought 'Batman Begins' kinda sucked.) 'Heroes' has the Ninth Doctor. Have I mentioned that while I, like you, only like superheroes conditionally, I have an absolute pure and perfect love for 'Doctor Who' and cannot view anything even tangentially associated with it with anything other than a child's adoration?

Um, except for 'Fear Her', from season two of the new series.

As to superhero movies...yeah, I'd agree, I'm not going to see them for their own sake. But I will be seeing 'Ghost Rider', because I really like the core concept of "man sells soul to devil to save foster dad, becomes demon biker, redeemed by love of girlfriend into becoming superhero", and I think that it might be better with a fresh start than with all the baggage of the comics. Plus, flaming skull-headed biker looks freaking awesome with modern FX technology. :)

Oh, and X3 was pretty good, BTW; it was just that it wasn't great like the other two so the fans kinda dissed it. But it's worth a rental. (Like you, though, I couldn't be bothered to see 'Superman Returns'. And I thought 'Batman Begins' kinda sucked.)

]]> By: Tyler http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46770 Tyler Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:32:02 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46770 Not to derail the discussion but, since you mentioned it, those Ghost Rider trailers look like shit sandwich. Of all the ways to play it (straight action, horror, supernatural thriller), I'm a little disappointed they decided on "campy." Not to derail the discussion but, since you mentioned it, those Ghost Rider trailers look like shit sandwich. Of all the ways to play it (straight action, horror, supernatural thriller), I'm a little disappointed they decided on "campy."

]]> By: Zeb Aslam http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46763 Zeb Aslam Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:00:59 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46763 Maybe I'm not that jaded or something, but I like Heroes. It isn't exactly anything new, and it certainly isn't mind-blowing (what is these days?) but it's a perfectly well-written show that seems to actually be wrapping up just as many plot-points as it introduces and after Lost I really appreciate that. I agree with the above poster...Elektra was bad but I sat through the dvd rental...Catwoman was so bad that I actually couldn't even muster the will power to finish the dvd (I stopped watching about 10 minutes into it)...and that's saying something. Also, BSG is one of the best shows, period, I've ever seen much less the best sci-fi show. You not watching that means you lose cool points Curran...just saying. Maybe I'm not that jaded or something, but I like Heroes. It isn't exactly anything new, and it certainly isn't mind-blowing (what is these days?) but it's a perfectly well-written show that seems to actually be wrapping up just as many plot-points as it introduces and after Lost I really appreciate that. I agree with the above poster...Elektra was bad but I sat through the dvd rental...Catwoman was so bad that I actually couldn't even muster the will power to finish the dvd (I stopped watching about 10 minutes into it)...and that's saying something.

Also, BSG is one of the best shows, period, I've ever seen much less the best sci-fi show. You not watching that means you lose cool points Curran...just saying.

]]> By: Paperghost http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46684 Paperghost Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:42:43 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46684 I hereby demand a move to force DC into making an Ambush Bug film. Forget Batman or the doofus in the red undies, AB is what we want. There, I said it. I hereby demand a move to force DC into making an Ambush Bug film. Forget Batman or the doofus in the red undies, AB is what we want.

There, I said it.

]]> By: MarkAndrew http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46663 MarkAndrew Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:40:43 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46663 Yeah, superhero movies just aren't as awesome as they used to be. We need to bring the novelty back, which means superhero product in other media. Like sculptures made out of cheese. (I haven't Daredevil, Superman, X-men 3, Elektra, or Catwoman either. Or the second half of Spider-man II.) Yeah, superhero movies just aren't as awesome as they used to be. We need to bring the novelty back, which means superhero product in other media. Like sculptures made out of cheese.

(I haven't Daredevil, Superman, X-men 3, Elektra, or Catwoman either. Or the second half of Spider-man II.)

]]> By: Evan Waters http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46643 Evan Waters Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:12:33 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46643 I find most of the characters on HEROES too shrill. We should all aspire to be more like Super Hiro, but otherwise, everyone's too fucked up to get a grip on. And I like IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN. I find most of the characters on HEROES too shrill. We should all aspire to be more like Super Hiro, but otherwise, everyone's too fucked up to get a grip on. And I like IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN.

]]> By: Grant http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46628 Grant Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:16:39 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46628 Yeah I feel like the novelty has worn off a bit. It'd have to be something really big to get my really enthusiastic about a superhero movie. I'm looking forward to Spider-man 3 and cautiously optimistic about Iron Man and the new Fantastic Four moviel but otherwise I'm not eager to see any more properties make it to the big screen. Unless someone figures out how to make a really bitching Avengers or JLA movies. And don't get the Heroes love myself. But man Brad you are missing out on BSG. I used to be bored with sci-fi shows but BSG brought me back in. Yeah I feel like the novelty has worn off a bit. It'd have to be something really big to get my really enthusiastic about a superhero movie. I'm looking forward to Spider-man 3 and cautiously optimistic about Iron Man and the new Fantastic Four moviel but otherwise I'm not eager to see any more properties make it to the big screen.

Unless someone figures out how to make a really bitching Avengers or JLA movies.

And don't get the Heroes love myself. But man Brad you are missing out on BSG. I used to be bored with sci-fi shows but BSG brought me back in.

]]> By: Johnny Bacardi http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/comment-page-1/#comment-46622 Johnny Bacardi Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:58:42 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/30/i-like-superheroes-but-part-1-in-a-possible-series-no-guarantees/#comment-46622 <i>Elektra</i> was like <i>Citizen Kane</i> compared to that Catwoman flick... And I'm with you 100% on <i>Heroes</i>. Nothing new under <i>that</i> sun as far as I'm concerned, plus it has the look of one of those series that the writers don't have any idea how they want to end it, (because they didn't expect it to last more than six episodes anyway) so they just keep piling on crap until it becomes a convoluted mess, <i>X-Files</i> being one example... Elektra was like Citizen Kane compared to that Catwoman flick...

And I'm with you 100% on Heroes. Nothing new under that sun as far as I'm concerned, plus it has the look of one of those series that the writers don't have any idea how they want to end it, (because they didn't expect it to last more than six episodes anyway) so they just keep piling on crap until it becomes a convoluted mess, X-Files being one example...

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