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How do we choose the comics we read?
- by Greg Burgas
- in General
Friday, February 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 AM EST
Updated: Friday, February 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 AM EST
I have, according to some people, terrible taste in comics. That’s fine, though - it’s not their money I’m spending! They hold this opinion despite the fact that “good” and “bad” are pretty much purely subjective. I rarely make fun of people who have, according to me, terrible taste in comics (I make fun of publishers for publishing them, but that’s a whole different thing). If you think Rob Liefeld is the greatest artist in the history of the medium, well, you’re wrong, but what the hell. We can break down why a comic is good or bad, but ultimately, it’s one person’s opinion. There are actually people who have read more comics than I ever could who don’t think Watchmen is all that good. There are actually far smarter people than I who don’t think Shakespeare is all that good, either. So what? I think they’re missing out, but what the hell do I know?
This pure subjectivity about comics is NOT what this post is about, however. It got me thinking about how we choose the comics we read, which helps explain why we like and dislike certain comics. And I came up with some criteria that I have for choosing comics. I think these criteria are pretty universal, and the importance you place in each of them probably influences the comics you buy.  So let’s take a look.
I’m ranking mine in order of most important to least important, for me. Yours may vary.
1. The subject matter. This is the most important thing for me when I’m choosing what to read, or what to watch on television, or what to see in the movies (when I go to the movies, which is very rarely). When I decide what to buy at the comic book store, this is what I’m thinking about first. I’ve mentioned before that I don’t like autobiographies. I just don’t. Therefore, I’m probably never going to read Blankets. Well, maybe I will, because I will read autobiographies if everyone says they’re the greatest thing in the world. It took a long time for me to read Fun Home, even though it was praised to the heavens. Now, I liked Fun Home, but that’s because it was excellently done. That doesn’t mean I’m going to run out and purchase every autobiographical coming-of-age story I can find. I’m just not interested. Similarly, I’m not really that big on zombies and vampires. I don’t care how good The Walking Dead is, really. I might check it out some day, but I’m not dying to read it.  Rex Mundi is a book I like a lot, partly because of the subject matter. It’s historical, it’s alternate history, and it deals with the Grail legend. I’m not as big into the Grail stuff as I am the alternate history, but it’s a nice draw. Some people have mentioned that they don’t like Rex Mundi not because it’s bad, but because they don’t like the subject matter. That’s perfectly fine. It’s not for everyone. That doesn’t make it bad. Or good, for that matter.
A lot of the very good graphic novels I’ve read over the past two years are not because of the talent involved (although that played a part, but for most of these, I didn’t know much about the talent involved) but because of the subject matter: Different Ugliness, Different Madness (a story of two damaged people finding solace in each other); Capote in Kansas (the story of Truman Capote researching In Cold Blood); Nil: A Land Beyond Belief (a very funny and bizarre political satire); Cyclone Bill and the Tall Tales (a story about the disappearance of a rock and roll icon); The Nightmarist (an examination of the nature of reality); Brownsville (Jewish mobsters in the 1930s); The Lone and Level Sands (the story of Exodus told from Pharoah’s point of view); American Born Chinese (a wry observation of racism and immigration and peer pressure); The Drowners (a psychological drama about a murdered girl); Sudden Gravity (a creepy tale set in a mental institution). Very few of these (Duncan Rouleau on The Nightmarist and Greg Ruth on Sudden Gravity are the two big exceptions) hooked me because of the talent involved. Graphic novels aren’t the only place I look at subject matter - I also base a lot of my monthly purchases on it. I like old-school adventure with a historical twist, so I bought Captain Gravity and the Power of the Vril, which had good talent involved (Joshua Dysart and Sal Velluto) but was far more interesting to me because of the subject. If you aren’t interested at all in Jewish mobsters from the 1930s, than you probably won’t enjoy Brownsville, no matter how well it’s done (and it’s done well). If you don’t like Nazis and mystical creatures, then you probably won’t like Captain Gravity, no matter how well it’s done (and it’s done well). C’est la vie.
2. The writer. The writer, far more than the artist, is my second most important criterion for choosing a book. I follow writers (and sometimes artists) and check out the books they’re doing because of their track records. Once I get to know a certain writer and I’m confident in their abilities in different genres of the medium (some writers are only good at one thing, while others have only one good idea), I will follow them around. Back in the late 1990s, I started reading Strange Kiss because Warren Ellis wrote it. I would never have known about it if it hadn’t been for the people at my old comics shoppe in Portland, who knew I liked Ellis and suggested it. I certainly don’t like everything Avatar publishes, nor everything Ellis writes, but that’s one example of me following a writer to something I might have missed.  I don’t read everything my favorites write, but if it’s by Morrison, or Ellis, or Ennis, or Moore, or Joe Casey, or John Ostrander, or Brian K. Vaughan, or even some old favorites like Doug Moench, I’m going to give it a look. That’s not to say I will love it - I remain unconvinced that Invisibles is any good, although I’ve only read it once, and I was planning on dropping The Boys before Paul Levitz got a hold of it and shat himself over the contents and killed it, and I’m just not interested in Lost Girls - but I will be far more interested in checking the project out if it’s a writer with a good track record. As long-time readers know, I’m much more interested in the writing part of comics than the art, so the writer plays a big part in whether I buy something or not.
3. The artist. This is far less important to me than the writer is, but it’s still third on the list. If it’s bad art but decent writing, I can deal with it. If it’s lousy writing with nice art, I’m probably not sticking around. That said, I will check things out based solely on art, but the selection of artists that I follow is much smaller. The most recent example I can think of is when Bill Sienkiewicz did the Black Widow mini-series, and he didn’t even do all the issues. I love Sienkiewicz, though, and checked the series out because of his presence. It turns out the two series were good, but I might not have checked them out if not for Sienkiewicz’s involvement. I have bought some back issues solely on the artist - I mentioned the first few issues of The Shadow, which I bought because Sienkiewicz drew them, and I bought the first five issues of The Maze Agency because Adam Hughes drew them, Camelot 3000 because Brian Bolland drew it, and The Hiketeia because J. G. Jones drew it. There were other reasons, of course - Mike Barr wrote The Maze Agency and Camelot 3000, and Greg Rucka wrote The Hiketeia - but it was primarily the art that drew me.
4. The characters.  Characters are what the Big Two rely on to keep their aging audience, and for the most part, it must work. I don’t think it’s a very good reason to read a comic book, but I admit I still base some of my purchasing decisions on it. Back in the day, when I first started buying comics, I was much more beholden to certain characters than I am now. I began with Batman and Spider-Man, and shortly thereafter added the X-Men, and stuck with those characters through some bad comics. I first got Amazing Spider-Man when Michelinie was writing and McFarlane was drawing. Then Larsen took over the drawing, then Bagley, and the issues got progressively worse. I don’t blame the artists; I just can’t remember who was writing them and categorize them primarily by the art. I finally dropped the book around #350, which was about 20 issues (or more) after I should have. I stuck with Batman and Detective through the earthquake, which was not a good story line. I kept on with Uncanny X-Men through about 25-30 issues of Chuck Austen writing it, which are some of the most painful comics I’ve ever paid money for.  Yes, I’m stupid.  But the characters in comics - especially the superheroes - are so interesting and fun to read, I understand the lure they have. I freely admit that my love of the new Moon Knight series stems partly from my love of the character.  I still think it’s a good comic, but I recognize that if you don’t like Moon Knight, you’re probably not going to be as enthusiastic about it as I am. I stuck with Moon Knight through some pretty shitty comics, too. His third series, which ran about five years, was really no good after about the 30th issue, but I hung on until the end, when Stephen Platt’s art was simply horrible. I like to think I’ve gotten better, and will drop the book if it goes down in quality. I refuse to buy New Excalibur even though Dazzler is in it, after all, and Dazzler is another one of my favorite characters.
Unfortunately, DC and Marvel know the fascination their fan base has with certain characters, and therefore they keep recycling them in poorly-written and poorly-drawn comics just because they know a certain percentage of people will buy them no matter what.  That’s sad, because even though I love certain characters (where’s my “Looker-rises-from-the-dead-and-kicks-ass” mini-series, DC?), I’d rather not see them if the creative team is going to be shitty. I might be in the minority, because it seems to me that the minute a “long-forgotten” character reappears, the fan base gushes, no matter how good it is.  The latest incarnation of the JLA is a case in point. I guess a lot of people like it, because it’s selling well, but are they buying it because they really want to like a Justice League title, or because it’s a good comic book? I personally think it stinks. Are the people who are buying it just so happy to have a JLA that they’re overlooking that fact? I’m not saying that’s true, but I do wonder about it. I’d like to give the fans the benefit of the doubt, but from reading some of the reactions to relaunches over the past few years, it seems like people are so excited about a certain character showing up (Red Tornado! Yay!) that they’ll but it no matter the quality. Like I wrote, I do this too. I can’t be the only one, can I?
5. Favorable reviews. I often read reviews just to find out what the book is about, because then I can base my decision to buy it on Criterion #1. Whether someone bashes or gushes about a book doesn’t often influence me, because I recognize that everyone has their own tastes. But occasionally, someone whose opinions I respect likes something, or the reviews are so overwhelmingly favorable, that I will go out and buy the book. I bought Fun Home based on the love it was getting. I bought Deogratias because Guy liked it, and usually he has pretty good taste. It’s not an overwhelming reason to buy a book, but it comes into play.
6. The company that publishes the comic. I hope people don’t base their buying decisions on this, because it’s kind of a sad reason. The reason it’s on my list is because, for a few of the smaller publishers, I’m more willing to check out something they put out based on their track record. Archaia Studios Press has a good track record with me, so I will pay a little more attention to something they publish. It won’t trump the other things on this list, but it’s a small factor. When it becomes a larger factor is when it becomes silly. A lot of blogs, it seems, are devoted to DC minutiae. I have no idea if the people writing those blogs are buying DC exclusively because they just love the characters so much, or if they’re buying Marvel books but just choosing not to blog about them. If it’s the former, that’s a bad sign. DC or Marvel would love that, because then you feel the obsessive desire to track down every single book that ties into, oh, I don’t know, Infinite Crisis, just because DC thinks you should. I’ve actually read blogs on which the writer says they don’t buy Marvel books. I don’t get that. Is the Geoff Johns who wrote Avengers any different from the Geoff Johns who wrote JSA? I don’t read either book, so I can’t say. I think DC has a richer history than Marvel, so that might be a reason, but to ignore one entire company seems silly. Again, I do this a little, but not with regard to the Big Two.
So those are my criteria. They vary, of course - sometimes I will buy something by a writer I like even though I don’t think the book’s subject matter doesn’t sound like something I like, just to give it a try. But generally, this is how I pick what comics I buy. I’m interested in how people choose their comics, because just as some people cannot believe why I “waste” money on some things and don’t buy other stuff, I wonder the same thing about others. How can you not buy The Middleman? Why on earth would you skip Planetary? To each his or her own, I guess.
What’s your criteria? How do you choose which comics you read?  Sound off, people - that’s what we’re here for!






28 Comments
J. Paul
February 2, 2007 at 9:48 am
Honestly, my only criteria is the characters. If I have any interest in the featured character(s) I’ll pick something up. If it turns out that the story and/or art is horrific I tend to drop the book after a couple of issues. If I only have a sligth interest in the character(s) I’ll just wait for trade, which will sometimes turn me on to something that really grabs my interest like Fables, Y the Last Man, Walking Dead, Ultimate Spider-Man, Lucifer, Invincible and Powers.
Joe Rice
February 2, 2007 at 10:10 am
Interesting. I’m going to post about the falsehood of pure subjectivity in a bit, but I’d like to address your actual main points here first. As a reader, to me, I choose a comic based on mostly the writer, sometimes the artist, and often by review/recommendation from a reliable source. As a kid, I followed characters, but I really couldn’t give a crap about them anymore. Likewise, subject matter used to be a criteria but as I’ve aged, my care for content got dwarfed by my care for form.
I’ll be posting soon, I hope, about the ancilliary point you get wrong here.
Scott King
February 2, 2007 at 10:40 am
I follow writers. It doesn’t matter to me who the characters are as long as the guy writting them is someone I’m enjoy.
Tom Russell
February 2, 2007 at 10:45 am
I agree with you and use most of your criteria, basically in that order. There are two other concerns, though:
1, Money. I’m more likely to get a comic that’s $1.99 than one that’s $2.50 or more.
2, Panel Count. Flipping through the pages, I’m more likely to get something that has six to eight panels a page. I’m not saying I want the page to be cluttered or anything. But if half the book is made up of splash pages or just a couple of panels, I’m probably not going to pick it up. Sure, they’re pretty, but they don’t tell the story as well.
This is probably why I always enjoyed Ditko more than Kirby. I mean, Kirby’s great, but if I pay twenty bucks for a Ditko trade and twenty for a Kirby, I’m going to have at least a third more story with Ditko.
Of course, Kirby– and big panels– are much better for action, and Ditko– and tiny panels– are much better for mood. I enjoy both, but I’m cheap and I like to feel like I’m getting some bang for my buck.
ryan day
February 2, 2007 at 11:05 am
I mostly follow writers, though that’s tempered with with subject matter - I’ll try most of Warren Ellis’ creator-owned work, but don’t usually bother with his corporate superheroes.
There are only a couple artists I’ll buy a book for: Quitely, Williams… Mike Allred, I guess, but that’s usually a writer/artist thing; I couldn’t bring myself to pick up the issue of Fables he just did.
And the concept figures in there somewhere - I’m more likely to pick up a random science fiction book than a random superhero one. And of course, it’s easier for a good, unknown artist to draw me into a book than a good, unknown writer.
Matthew E
February 2, 2007 at 11:12 am
For me it’s mostly characters. Out of the books I get regularly, why am I getting them? Let’s see…
I tried The Spirit because I kept hearing about how great Cooke is supposed to be, and how great the Spirit himself is supposed to be, and both of those things turned out to be true.
I tried Blue Beetle because I thought, what the heck, it might be good, and it turned out to be good.
I tried The All-New Atom because the preview in Brave New World was pretty fun, and the regular series itself also turned out to be pretty fun.
I’m getting 52 because it’s an experiment that hasn’t been tried before, and I want to see how that works out.
I tried JLA because of the characters, and I like it okay, but not enough to keep getting it once the JSA crossover is over.
I tried JSA because of the characters and the hype from Geoff Johns fans, and I’m staying until the Starman thing is cleared up, but maybe not after that.
And I will buy anything Legion-related, because of the characters. I don’t know what I’m going to do if I’m ever faced with a Legion comic that sucks. I’d like to think I wouldn’t get it, but I probably would.
Guy LeCharles Gonzalez
February 2, 2007 at 11:37 am
Speaking strictly about comics, my criteria, in order of importance:
Writer: Though comics are collaborative mediums, as a writer myself, story comes first, so when I discover a writer whose work I really like, I’ll follow him/her pretty much wherever though, in and out of comics.
Characters / Publisher: Just like there are writers I like and will follow, there are certain characters (Batman, Moon Knight, GI Joe, Bumperboy, Amelia) and publishers (AdHouse, Archaia, Viper) to whom I feel a connection and will check out anything their associated with.
Format: I am less and less tolerant of the
floppyserial format and am buying more and more TPBs and OGNs with each passing month. Mini-series also have an advantage over an ongoing, though I’ve found myself trade-waiting on many titles I might have followed serially in the past.Subject Matter (Genre): I’m pretty open to reading anything that looks or sounds interesting, so while I find certain genres more appealing than others, it’s not a primary factor unless of the prior three is lacking.
Favorable Reviews: I love reading reviews as much as I love shelf-surfing, all in the name of coming across something I might not have checked out otherwise. Certain reviewers can be influential in getting me to [or not to] try something out, too.
Artist: I am way more tolerant of decent or substandard art than I am of the equivalent in writing. There are only a handful of artists who can get me to pick up something that hasn’t already interested me based on the other criteria, and even then, it’s no guarantee.
Greg Hatcher
February 2, 2007 at 11:57 am
Like most people have said so fat, I have your criteria but I shuffle the order a little. Writer and character come first, although I think you could argue that “character” falls under subject matter, really. Do I like urban crime stories because I like Batman or do I like Batman because I like urban crime stories? Dilemma!
When I was younger I would pick up books for a reason you didn’t list and I bet there are a lot of people out there who’d cop to this if they were honest — wanting to know what’s going on. Like the JLA are real people and you want to know how they’re getting along. Maybe that falls under ‘characters.’ But it’s how, even today, I find myself buying something like Brad Meltzer’s first JLA book even though I know in my heart that I probably will not enjoy it. I do still sometimes cave to that adolescent thing of wanting to know what the League is doing.
I’d call ‘wanting to know’ different from ‘characters,’ though, because Marvel and DC build entire marketing strategies around it. Want to know what’s going on in the Marvel Universe? Better buy everything that says “Civil War” then. How many books has DC spun out of Infinite Crisis that promise “a major change” in the status quo?
It may not affect how Greg buys his comics and I am TRYING to let that go myself, but that gossipy need-to-know urge almost drives the mainstream marketplace on its own sometimes, I think.
Scott Cederlund
February 2, 2007 at 12:11 pm
First up has to be creators, with the writers edging out artist but both are important. I’ll look at and consider a book because of the writer first.
Next is the concept– does it actually sound interesting? I’ll keep an eye on anything Matt Fraction does but, honestly, Casanova sounds like a wildly better concept than another Punisher title does. Therefore, Casanova gets my money while Punisher War Journal doesn’t.
Following that up is the buzz behind a book. This helps mostly non-Marvel/DC books. Whether in reviews, blogs or just word of mouth, what books are people excited about? Mouse Guard and Rocketo are two of the best examples of buzz books from the past couple of years. Enough people were excited about those books that I felt I had to check them out.
Lastly, history is starting to play a part in what I’m buying. Of course, this doesn’t relate to the latest Civil 52 Infinite War crossover but books like the Peanuts, Steve Canyon or EC reprints. I’m starting to get these books because I want to get into the history of the medium and find out what was going on pre-1963.
Joe Rice
February 2, 2007 at 12:16 pm
That’s the good kind of history, Scott.
Matthew E
February 2, 2007 at 12:48 pm
I agree with Greg. I’ve gotten quite a few comics over the years just to find out what’s going on. I’m going to try to do that less now, though.
Joe Rice
February 2, 2007 at 12:57 pm
Good old-school covers used to help with that. “What the hell is wrong with Superman?!?” or “Are they REALLY going to kill ______?!?”
Brad
February 2, 2007 at 1:35 pm
The wanting what’s going on thing doesn’t really register with me now that I can read spoilers for anything the minute after it goes on sale (and usually before). I barely read the Spider-Man comics when I moderated CBR’s Spidey message board, because I could follow them just fine via spoilers.
My main three criteria are creators, subject matter, buzz and characters. I’ll buy anything my favorite creators do, I’m more willing to try comics by unknown quantities that sound interesting and have good reviews, and I do have favorite characters whose stories I am more likely to be interested in if they are not terrible than I am with stories of similar quality featuring characters I don’t give a crap about (I’d read a decent Spider-Man comic before I’d read a decent Spawn one; and, if I’m being honest, I’d read a good Spidey comic before I’d read a good indie/small press book). I’m not big on autobio/confessional stories, at least in comics, but like Greg, I’ll read a really well reviewed one. I actually borrowed Pesepolis from another teacher’s bookshelf.
Format and history of the medium are in there; I want to read the clssic strips and comics that are considered part of the “canon”. I don’t seperate form from creators, because I mostly admire creators for their formal skills. I do have to say that there are many excellently made comics I have no interest in reading at the moment (Chris Ware’s work comes to mind). Now I have to read Joe’s thing, because I am fascinated with subjectivity, and his take on is usually interesting.
Mark Engblom
February 2, 2007 at 1:35 pm
I choose comics primarily based on characters I like, or *may* like based on my preferences for similar characters. Occasionally I’ll follow a writer around from book to book, but that’s pretty rare…especially now that I’m growing tired of the “rock star creator” mentality the Big Two have fostered, and don’t wish to feed into it.
Apodaca
February 2, 2007 at 4:15 pm
I can’t believe how many people will follow certain characters. Especially people like Spider-Man, who have been portrayed so many different ways, you have to wonder which character they’re following and what makes them think that’s who they’ll be getting?
Tim Callahan
February 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm
I just can’t believe some people would rank subject matter or characters before the writer. The writer is where it ALL starts. It’s the only thing that matters.
Choosing a comic book because you like a character is like selecting a work of literature because you really like a noun. “Yeah, I’m a big fan of the noun ’sidewalk,’ and this book seems to use that word a lot, so it must be good.” That kind of logic makes no sense.
MoggIntellect
February 2, 2007 at 5:01 pm
“I just can’t believe some people would rank subject matter or characters before the writer. The writer is where it ALL starts. It’s the only thing that matters.
Choosing a comic book because you like a character is like selecting a work of literature because you really like a noun. ‘Yeah, I’m a big fan of the noun “sidewalk,” and this book seems to use that word a lot, so it must be good.’ That kind of logic makes no sense.”
Comparing a character to a noun really doesn’t make logical sense to me either.
Greg Hatcher
February 2, 2007 at 5:35 pm
But that’s how people FIND writers. We’re not talking about how you decide if you LIKE something — or *I* wasn’t, anyway — I was talking about what prompts the buying impulse.
Sometimes you buy a book because you have a vague notion what it’s about and you are intrigued by that, not because you’ve read stuff by that guy before. In comics, sometimes that means you’re risking two or three dollars on stuff from a guy who’s disappointed you before because you want to know what he’s going to do with a premise that SHOULD be bulletproof. The thing that makes that last part embarrassing is because in my experience I don’t think the disappointing guy’s ever pulled it off and I’m out three bucks. Hence, trying to quit. But I thought it belonged on the list of things that trigger a buying impulse.
Kieron Gillen
February 2, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Honestly?
1) Is it critically discussed?
This so comes from being a journalist/critic/whatever. If something is being talked about in comics conversation, as long as it’s something which sounds worth having an opinion on, I’ll buy it. It could be a story about the isolation of dogs in Newfoundland scrap-yards. If enough people say it’s worth buying, I’ll buy it. Not that because they say it’s worth buying - but rather that I know I want my own opinion on it.
2) Writers.
Clearly, this can be writer/artist. What matters is who has the ultimate direction in the exercise - in fact, with some artists, even if someone else is writing, in terms of a work of final art, they still have the final say. If it’s someone who’s worldview I’m interested in, I’m in. If it’s someone who I’m really interested in, they have to go some to make me not buy it.
3) Is it interesting?
Which sounds utterly brain-dead, but is really the final core of things. Certain comics scream energy - even if I hadn’t heard of The Nightly News, it’s immediately sommething different from a look at it. And part of me will be slightly bewildered that something that looks this interesting hasn’t been discussed more widely - see point 1 - but it’ll still gather by cash fairly easily.
4) Am I rich? Am I bored?
If i have spare change in my pocket, and want to buy something to distract myself from the horror of existence, I won’t leave a shop without buying something. That’s why I walked in there in the first place, after all. In which case, anything goes. Comics Slut, looking for trouble.
KG
MarkAndrew
February 2, 2007 at 6:42 pm
BUNCH of different reasoms, no particular order:
1) Genre. I’ll buy any comic with pirates and dinosaurs in it. I know what I like.
2) Format. In the superhero milleu, specifically, that means team-up books. I’ve bought stuff by, like Gerry Conway and late period Carmine Infantino, ’cause it’s a team-up book and I like team-up books. I’m actually trying to collect ‘em all, though I grantcha it’s a couple-year-long project. (There’s… I think… 641 of them.)
3) Concept. Is it an idea I think is cool? (This might be # 1) The incredible journey with killer cyborgs? Awesome! The Justice League with characters from Victorian literature? I’m there. A memoir about growing up in a funeral home? Interesting. All over that.
4) Writer/Artist. Probably artist over writer, ’cause I don’t impulse buy ’cause I flip through the book and like the writing. Unless it’s a comedy.
But there’s both that I follow, although the majority of my favorite creators do both. There’s some folks who’s stuff I’ll buy when they’re doing either. Say, Chynna Clugston whatever-her-name-is-nowadays or Joe Kubert.
5) Reviewers making a good case for “THis is good.” Or stuff that people with good taste like.
6) Price. Ohhhh yeah. I’ve walked away with 16 bucks wortha comics out of the three-fer-a-buck box.
(And THAT was being selective.)
7) Characters. I like Spider-man and Wonder Woman and Daredevil, but I don’t gotta have there every appearance. But there’s a few B-listers I’ll buy anything they show up in. Hoppy the Marvel Bunny, Stegron the Dinosaur Man, Klarion the Witch Boy.
John Seavey
February 2, 2007 at 6:49 pm
I follow the writer now, but when I was younger, I followed the characters–and I gotta say, it bothers me ever so slightly that “following the characters” is seen by this column (and indeed, this blog) as a) a purchasing impulse primarily popular among aging and nostalgic fanboys, and thus something to be looked down upon, and b) a bad business strategy of Marvel and DC, and something they should be ashamed of.
I’ll answer a) with, “Really, it’s the exact opposite. It’s the young, new audience of kids who haven’t yet developed an interest in how different writers treat the same characters who go straight for the title because it’s got, say, ‘Spider-Man’ in it–and it’s telling that DC and Marvel now promote writers and artists just as heavily, if not moreso, than they do their stable of characters. It’s because new readers aren’t getting into comics. Your point of entry into these things tends to be familiarity, and there’s nothing wrong or shameful about seeing the ‘Spider-Man’ movie and wondering what the fuss is about.”
As to b), one of the dumbest things Marvel and DC have done, from a business standpoint, is promoted creative teams as a point of interest over their characters, from the simple point of view that they don’t own creative teams. If you promote a stable of young, hip, hot artists as the best thing about Marvel and what makes Marvel comics worth reading, and then they all jump ship and form their own company (y’know, hypothetically speaking, of course) you’ve just essentially told everyone, “Go read our competitors’ books!” DC and Marvel are trapped having to pay out very large sums to their creative teams because they’ve set up a system in which people follow those creative teams–the writers and artists are, in effect, holding them hostage. Now, I’m not going to insist that DC and Marvel go back to oppressing creators, and I’d hate to see big companies profit at the expense of the people who made the characters they use, but there has to be a happy medium, and DC and Marvel should ultimately do what’s smartest for them, which is promote the assets they have and can rely on rather than fickle individuals who go from one company to another every few years.
Does this mean that Marvel should go to a policy of “print any old crap with Spider-Man’s picture on it?” Of course not. They should be selling quality product. But they should be making sure that people are interested in Spider-Man, above and beyond the person who’s writing and drawing his adventures. Because that person is going to be gone in five years, but Spider-Man will still be around.
Greg Burgas
February 2, 2007 at 7:40 pm
John: you make good points. I don’t think it’s BAD business practice by DC and Marvel, I just said it was unfortunate. Because I think that they are RELYING on the familiarity without worrying about the quality of the books. I may be wrong.
As for your contention about new readers, I agree. Like I said, I got into comics because of the characters, not because of who was writing or drawing. Some people hate Starlin as the writer of Batman. He wrote it when I started buying the books, and I didn’t care - it was frickin’ Batman, for crying out loud! My point was that these days, that’s less of a concern, and I think for anyone who is already involved in comics, it’s unfortunate if THAT’S the biggest reason you follow a book. It’s not the worst thing to do, but it allows DC and Marvel to get away with publishing crap because they know it will find an audience. If a kid today starts reading a Spider-Man comic because he or she loves Spider-Man, that’s great. But sooner or later they’re going to realize that the comic sucks (I’m just using Spider-Man as an example, because I don’t read the books, so they might be awesome). DC and Marvel then count on the familiarity to keep the book going.
Da Fug
February 2, 2007 at 7:46 pm
1) Critical acclaim/Buzz/Eisner Award winner — Almost the sole reason I read anything as a person in my early 30s. Are people saying it’s good? I wanna read it.
2) Writer — I might check out less favored works if the writer is critically acclaimed. Anything Moore, Morrison, Miller, etc.
3) Does the Library have it? — Almost listed this first since it’s the defining criteria for me. But I won’t read EVERY comic just because the library has it. I don’t purchase any comics anymore. The whole “collecting” part of my former hobby is alien to me. If the library doesn’t have it, I don’t read it. And it really kills me that they don’t have the entire Bone saga yet. Must check out inter-library loans.
4) Nostalgia/Character/What’s going on with… Gotham Earthquake + Clone Saga = enough superheroes for me! But still, with all the buzz about HUSH and JMS, I still wanted to see if I still had any affection for Batman and Spidey. Nice reads, but really can’t put up with the spandex soap operas anymore (except in occasional small doses). Like someone else said, “what’s going on with” can be satisfied solely with the internet if one chooses to do so.
Genre is almost completely irrelevant when it comes to comics and films for me. I’ll try anything if it has critical acclaim. But I can understand only being in the mood for certain kinds of material. After reading the first volume of Peaches, I would be a little wary of picking up comics aimed solely at the young female audience, but would still try it if the library had it and it was critically acclaimed.
Art would have to really interfere with storytelling for me to care about it whatsoever. I probably just have a really poorly trained eye when it comes to art. I have some preferences when it comes to art. But I would never choose a comic based on the artist (anymore anyway).
Dave
February 2, 2007 at 9:45 pm
These are my main criteria in order of importance. In the absence of one, I will move down to the next one, and so on.
1. Writer - there are certain authors that will get me to buy at least one issue of anything at this point, namely Ennis, Carey, Ellis, and Matt Wagner. There are plenty of other authors that will get me to look at a series and make it far more likely to buy it, such as Morrison, Brubaker or BKV, but they’re not at the point yet where I’ll buy anything by them. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a comic author to grab my attention, as I bought both Richard K. Morgan’s Black Widow and Daniel Knauf’s Iron Man based off the strength of their respective work in cyberpunk novels and TV.
2. Characters/Universe - Certain characters and premises are inherently more appealing to me. For example, given the choice, I will be far more likely to purchase Mike Carey on X-Men than Mike Carey on Wetworks, and I’m more likely to buy a Wildstorm relaunch like Wetworks or The Authority than I am to buy a DC relaunch like JLA or The Flash. However, most of my established character preferences are due to the work of writers I follow.
3. Presentation/Concept - when looking for new series to get into, I’m more likely to go with something with a unique artistic style or story concept that grabs my attention, with recent examples being Jonathan Hickman’s The Nightly News and Ben Templesmith’s Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse. I’ll be more likely to go for something offbeat or blackly humorous than something earnest or autobiographical, so when it comes to stuff like indies, I’d much rather read Eightball or Hate than Blankets.
4. Reviews - If I see something I wouldn’t normally check out getting good reviews from peers or on the internet, I’ll be more likely to look into it. Recent examples of this include Moon Knight, The Killer, and the Hector Plasm one-shot.
5. Artist - Though I tend to be far more motivated by writer, there are a few comics I’ve gotten into based mainly off of the artist, a good example being most of Steve Dillon’s post-Punisher Marvel work. Another example would be the complete series of Wolverine/Havok: Meltdown I picked up for $8 at a con recently based solely off of the prospect of John J. Muth and Kent Williams sharing art duties.
There’s other factors in what I buy, but these are probably the main criteria.
Aaron C
February 3, 2007 at 4:59 am
Great topic btw,
Because of tight budget I don’t buy much these days, so as above I have a few different criteria,
1. Subject matter and genre. Before I buy I want to know that the subject will interest me. ie Religion, thats how I tried Lucifer, Rex Mundi, Preacher, Light Brigade, original Battle Pope etc.
2. Writer, you need to have experienced the writer before you can pick this first, so the above has to come first. Now after reading for some time and established a familiarity with a lot of writers this becomes more important, ie I wouldn’t have picked up Fell if not for Warren Ellis.
3. Character, I know that its frowned upon here but I buy Amazing Spider-man and Conan on a monthly basis. As discussed above; to know whats going on, familiarity, (to keep my run going), and I generally enjoy most issues. That doesn’t mean I will pick up any other title with the character in it, but I will read the solicits and reviews to see if they sound interesting.
4. Reviews, I like to follow the review boards and after having done so for some time, I have found a number that can influence me into looking into something. Greg, Savage Critics, Fourth Rail crew etc.
5. Publisher, I generally like to check out Vertigo stuff.
6. Artist, not so much these days, but I do enjoy nice art, and will check out stories by classic Vertigo artists ie Gross, Snejbjerg, Dillon etc. I also think Hitch can draw.
Lynxara
February 3, 2007 at 5:25 am
I’ve got say: picking writers or artists over each other when it comes to comics has always struck me as complete madness. The medium is defined as a synthesis of story and art, and to give the plot and dialogue primary over the visual and storytelling just seems utterly point-missing. If good writing is all you want, then there’s no reason not to just read a novel.
When I want to see a pleasant alchemy of story and visual, not hampered by run-time constrictions of TV or movies, then I go to comics. Any comic I read must completely interest me on the writing and visual level, or to me it is simply a malformed, failed comic; at best, interesting in its failure.
To be honest, interesting art and writing is all that I require. Sometimes reviews will sway me that something may be of interest to me, though I care more about what the review says than whether it’s favorable or not. A truly well-written review can let you clearly know if a book would interest you even if the overall review is ambivalent or negative.
More than reviews is premise, the ‘high concept’ of the work. For instance, Bone was an homage to Barks’s high adventure done with original characters (or so it seemed to me); and I loved Barks’s comics as a child, so I began picking up Bone. As the story developed I found it a truly rich and rewarding work, but it was the premise that initially drew my interest. So, I tend to find superheroes most interesting in limited-storyline form, your Watchmen and Marvels that have definitive high concepts.
Other books I more or less judge by the strength of the premise before I move on, because I’ve long since learned that technical craft on the part of a creative team can’t redeem a deficient premise in my eyes. The high concept of a book to some degree encapsulates the story’s goals and ambitions, and so I simply find slogging through point-missing or actively disagreeable premises like The Boys a waste of time. I would much rather spend my time with Age of Bronze, or Monster, or Sandman, some other comic book that was actually about something worth talking about.
Also, I will generally give precedence to any properly structured work– say, a limited series or one shot with a properly defined beginning, middle, and end, over some godforsaken regular series whose plot events are all likely to be disrespected by later writers. A story without a true ending cannot have a truly coherent narrative, and to my mind, is not really worth reading about. Often I find myself more interested in given comics after they’ve ended (or after particular creator runs have ended), and they have some sort of actual structure worth deciphering.
Sebastian
February 6, 2007 at 7:34 am
First let me check off some of the considerations others have listed, in no particular order:
Subject matter - check
That Zombie example also works for me. I generally don’t like Horror, Crime and Spandex. Everything else goes, though I do tend to like stuff better that has at least some kind of humor in it.
Artist - check
I’m a visually oriented guy. If I can’t bear looking at the pages because I perceive the art as “bad”, then what good is the best writing? If the art is “good”, I at least have some pretty pictures to look at if the writing is only so-so. Of course those are the extremes, but generally that’s how my taste works. (I used quotation marks because I’m not a critic and I don’t want to be, but I just read that 180-comments discussion about objectivity/subjectivity).
Writer - not so much
Most of the time I don’t even notice them, because most of what I read is by artist/writers, so it’s not something I normally have to seperate out. Also see above, in that I look at the art first.
Favorable reviews - only as a last resort (or if they have lots of pictures)
I prefer to sample the work itself. If there are no sample pages for a (new) book before the preorder is due, then that’s too bad, but I won’t order it (if I’m not feeling adventurous and order on impulse, which I sometimes do).
Publisher - sometimes helpful
There are publishers (like Oni, Antarctic Press or Viz) where I’m more likely to find something to order and others (like Wildstorm, IDW, Avatar or Devil’s Due) that I can generally skip without any fears I might miss something I’d otherwise want to order.
Money - sometimes
I’m so used to small-press-pricing that I don’t really look at the $$ anymore unless the deviation from the norm is up over 50% or something. If I want it, I get it, as long as my budget still holds.
Format - not really
I have no preference in formats of presentation as far as I can tell. I read manga in bunko-format and BDs in oversized album-format and everything in between.
Concept - not as such
I fold that into subject matter.
Art style - there is that
I do tend to go for certain aesthetics. Perhaps art styles is the wrong term here. Examples of works I like sometimes don’t have anything in common in terms of style, but I suspect that they all have certain common aesthetic elements or at least a sense of innate consistency. I haven’t found the time (and interest) so far, though, to formulate that more clearly. I have listed a number of series and creators I like on my comicspace page instead.
To get those considerations into some kind of order, it’d probably be best to follow my monthly Previews order process. I live in Germany, so I have to preorder *everything* I want to buy, because 90% is stuff no retailer in their right mind would order for the racks over here (and probably in the States as well).
These are the things I check:
1) Names of running series (yes, I like to do my own pull-list instead of leaving it all to my LCS-guy). Is there a series that was so bad recently that I need to stop ordering it?
2) Names of creators (mostly artists, sometimes writers), assisted by internet sources / the blogosphere, so most of the time I know when to look for certain new projects from known names.
3) Covers or titles or descriptions that catch my interest. Which I then try to solidify by finding as many sample pages as possible on the internet… if there are none, I probably won’t order it, even if there are the most glowing text-only reviews.
4) Is my expected enjoyment worth the price-point (relative to certain industry standards)? Am I still in budget? The budget, BTW, is around $100 a month for Diamond, mostly floppies. I get my manga and trades elsewhere since Diamond’s international shipping (and the insurance, which the retailers have to hand down to the customers) doesn’t make it a viable choice for anything I can get through book market channels.
5) If I’m on the edge: how long is the series supposed to be? (Sometimes short is good, as I can’t lose too much money. Sometimes short is bad because with a monthly 3-issue mini I have to order all issues before the first one ships.)
Dan Lester
February 6, 2007 at 9:58 am
Similar to reviews but not exactly the same: I bopught Fun Home solely on the reccomendation of my local comic shop owner.