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	<title>Comments on: Friday on the Cutting Edge of Long Ago</title>
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		<title>By: Jono11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jono11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My, what an intolerable view of comics you have.  Your disdain for &quot;genre pieces&quot; and &quot;nerd pandering&quot; is almost impossible to wade through.  I enjoy the more refined side of comics as much as anyone else, but does reading superhero comics really make me such a retard?  I&#039;ve read comics for a long time.  And as much as I love the non-superhero stuff, I have to deny your first paragraph: I have not reached the point where I&#039;m too cool and too hip and too adult for superheroes.  They&#039;re still great fun.  It&#039;s too bad you&#039;re too hip to have fun, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, what an intolerable view of comics you have.  Your disdain for &#8220;genre pieces&#8221; and &#8220;nerd pandering&#8221; is almost impossible to wade through.  I enjoy the more refined side of comics as much as anyone else, but does reading superhero comics really make me such a retard?  I&#8217;ve read comics for a long time.  And as much as I love the non-superhero stuff, I have to deny your first paragraph: I have not reached the point where I&#8217;m too cool and too hip and too adult for superheroes.  They&#8217;re still great fun.  It&#8217;s too bad you&#8217;re too hip to have fun, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/02/09/friday-on-the-cutting-edge-of-long-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-52075</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...a few of us remember Weird Heroes. Talked about it here a couple of weeks ago.&quot;

My word, Greg, that&#039;s the last time I judge one of your columns by the intro paragraph on the home page and skip it. Sorry. I had several of those books (still have &quot;Mission: Impossible,&quot; sort of; it&#039;s a replacement copy obtained in the late 70s), but had completely forgotten about the Challengers novel. First I&#039;ve heard that those Maggin/Superman novels were so good. Indeed, the story at the time was that they WERE exploiting the films and the only reason neither was a novelization was that the amount of money Mario Puzo would have had to be paid was prohibitive. But again, no more skipping over, and my apologies for having done so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;a few of us remember Weird Heroes. Talked about it here a couple of weeks ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>My word, Greg, that&#8217;s the last time I judge one of your columns by the intro paragraph on the home page and skip it. Sorry. I had several of those books (still have &#8220;Mission: Impossible,&#8221; sort of; it&#8217;s a replacement copy obtained in the late 70s), but had completely forgotten about the Challengers novel. First I&#8217;ve heard that those Maggin/Superman novels were so good. Indeed, the story at the time was that they WERE exploiting the films and the only reason neither was a novelization was that the amount of money Mario Puzo would have had to be paid was prohibitive. But again, no more skipping over, and my apologies for having done so.</p>
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		<title>By: MacQuarrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacQuarrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Land&#039;s &quot;photo referencing&quot; (aside from his slavish tracing rather than referencing) is that he doesn&#039;t &quot;cast real world actors as characters&quot;; he picks photos for the pose and traces them, so that Jean Grey might be Elisa Cuthbert in one panel, Tara Reid in the next, Paris Hilton or Anna Kournikova in the third, some anonymous pornstar in the fourth... Despite the &quot;photorealism&quot; his characters have to be identified by their costumes as surely as characters from the Golden Age. It&#039;s all superficial, surface details with no foundation.

When Gil Kane or Gulacy did it, Coburn stayed Coburn throughout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Land&#8217;s &#8220;photo referencing&#8221; (aside from his slavish tracing rather than referencing) is that he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;cast real world actors as characters&#8221;; he picks photos for the pose and traces them, so that Jean Grey might be Elisa Cuthbert in one panel, Tara Reid in the next, Paris Hilton or Anna Kournikova in the third, some anonymous pornstar in the fourth&#8230; Despite the &#8220;photorealism&#8221; his characters have to be identified by their costumes as surely as characters from the Golden Age. It&#8217;s all superficial, surface details with no foundation.</p>
<p>When Gil Kane or Gulacy did it, Coburn stayed Coburn throughout.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, a few of us remember &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Weird Heroes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Talked about it &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/19/friday-browsing-the-drugstore-spinner-rack/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; a couple of weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, a few of us remember <em><strong>Weird Heroes</strong></em>. Talked about it <strong><a href="http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/19/friday-browsing-the-drugstore-spinner-rack/">here</a></strong> a couple of weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting/ironic that, after some comments about comic artists&#039; photo--referencing there was discussion of McGregor &amp; Gulacy&#039;s &quot;Sabre,&quot; as Gulacy did the photo--referencing work I&#039;m most familiar with, &quot;casting&quot; real world actors as characters in some serials he drew for Warren&#039;s &quot;Eerie&quot; b/w mag toward the end of its run. I especially remember him---I assume it was Paul&#039;s decision, since these works had varying writers---making James Coburn the hero in one story, and while I can&#039;t remember who she was at this date, at the time I recognized the leading lady as well (during proofreading, Susan George popped into my mind; maybe it was her). Some of that material would probably read well today (if I&#039;m not looking at the past through rose--colored glasses), and maybe somebody should reprint it, but probably as comics rather than graphic novels.

As for the late Byron Preiss, I really liked his paperback book series, &quot;Weird Heroes&quot; (if I&#039;m remembering that title right), eight volumes, I believe, most collecting short works but a scattered few were novels, all illustrated. Features included debuts of his own Gutz (again, if I&#039;m...) and Philip Jose Farmer&#039;s Greatheart Silver, as well as a character created by the same team that re--reinvented DC&#039;s Paul Kirk, Manhunter (after the Simon/Kirby team reinvented him in the 40s), Archie Goodwin (R.I.P., guy) and Walt Simonson. I have only a vague memory of the name being Stalker, and am wide open to correction there. He was half Native American, the illegitimate offspring of the wife an &quot;Indian Agent.&quot; Wish I still had my copies. Anybody else remember these things, and if so, fondly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting/ironic that, after some comments about comic artists&#8217; photo&#8211;referencing there was discussion of McGregor &amp; Gulacy&#8217;s &#8220;Sabre,&#8221; as Gulacy did the photo&#8211;referencing work I&#8217;m most familiar with, &#8220;casting&#8221; real world actors as characters in some serials he drew for Warren&#8217;s &#8220;Eerie&#8221; b/w mag toward the end of its run. I especially remember him&#8212;I assume it was Paul&#8217;s decision, since these works had varying writers&#8212;making James Coburn the hero in one story, and while I can&#8217;t remember who she was at this date, at the time I recognized the leading lady as well (during proofreading, Susan George popped into my mind; maybe it was her). Some of that material would probably read well today (if I&#8217;m not looking at the past through rose&#8211;colored glasses), and maybe somebody should reprint it, but probably as comics rather than graphic novels.</p>
<p>As for the late Byron Preiss, I really liked his paperback book series, &#8220;Weird Heroes&#8221; (if I&#8217;m remembering that title right), eight volumes, I believe, most collecting short works but a scattered few were novels, all illustrated. Features included debuts of his own Gutz (again, if I&#8217;m&#8230;) and Philip Jose Farmer&#8217;s Greatheart Silver, as well as a character created by the same team that re&#8211;reinvented DC&#8217;s Paul Kirk, Manhunter (after the Simon/Kirby team reinvented him in the 40s), Archie Goodwin (R.I.P., guy) and Walt Simonson. I have only a vague memory of the name being Stalker, and am wide open to correction there. He was half Native American, the illegitimate offspring of the wife an &#8220;Indian Agent.&#8221; Wish I still had my copies. Anybody else remember these things, and if so, fondly?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eclipse Comics did indeed produce the six issue Star*Reach Classics reprint, although as I recall all of issue six was devoted to a single Craig P Russell story.

The Sacred And The Profance was printed in book form by Eclipse, but it was not a collection of the serial as printed in Star*Reach. Instead, it was a collection of the revamped serial that Motter and Stacy produced for Epic Illustrated (in full color). The Scared And The Profane is one of my favorite comic serials, which is why I know.

I enjoyed the Sternako Chandler book. There was a rumor that Dark Horse was going to reprint it but that never happened.

Personally, I would really like to see Steranko&#039;s Outland adaption reprinted. It was serialized in Heavy Metal magazine and it is probably one of my Sternako works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eclipse Comics did indeed produce the six issue Star*Reach Classics reprint, although as I recall all of issue six was devoted to a single Craig P Russell story.</p>
<p>The Sacred And The Profance was printed in book form by Eclipse, but it was not a collection of the serial as printed in Star*Reach. Instead, it was a collection of the revamped serial that Motter and Stacy produced for Epic Illustrated (in full color). The Scared And The Profane is one of my favorite comic serials, which is why I know.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the Sternako Chandler book. There was a rumor that Dark Horse was going to reprint it but that never happened.</p>
<p>Personally, I would really like to see Steranko&#8217;s Outland adaption reprinted. It was serialized in Heavy Metal magazine and it is probably one of my Sternako works.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And McGregor was determined to prove that comics could be Adult, they could Do It All, and as a result he tried to cram in everything he could think of.&quot;

I like reading McGregor.
Even if I don&#039;t like the story, I like the experience of reading him.
Just looking at it and seeing how close he got to being the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And McGregor was determined to prove that comics could be Adult, they could Do It All, and as a result he tried to cram in everything he could think of.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like reading McGregor.<br />
Even if I don&#8217;t like the story, I like the experience of reading him.<br />
Just looking at it and seeing how close he got to being the one.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/02/09/friday-on-the-cutting-edge-of-long-ago/comment-page-1/#comment-50843</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can someone tell me what Don McGregorâ€™s &lt;em&gt;Sabre&lt;/em&gt; was about, and which meaty issues of the day McGregor tackles within it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A noble, passionate man in a fractured, feudalistic dystopian future America fights to retain his individuality and freedom against a corrupt and decadent  authority... but still must, in the end, walk away from the woman he loves and the unborn child of his that she is carrying. &quot;Why does it COST so much to take a STAND??&quot;

Plus lots of goofball SF satire stuff.... the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach you saw in a lot of late 70&#039;s science-fiction comics. Swords and rayguns, gladitorial combat arenas and clone vats. Etc. It&#039;s kind of the one-stop shop for everything that we ever saw in 70&#039;s space-opera comics. Smoosh together Kamandi and Killraven and Deathlok&#039;s worlds and you get Sabre&#039;s vile, decadent America of 2020.

In fairness, the art from Paul Gulacy is absolutely stunning, and McGregor, despite the usual over-writing, crafted a pretty fair adventure. I make fun of the book mostly because at the time we all thought it was the Next Great Leap -- there&#039;s back-cover pull-quote blurbs from Gary Groth and Ed Via about how &lt;strong&gt;Important!!&lt;/strong&gt; this book is. &quot;First graphic novel produced for the direct market.&quot; Remember, we were all obsessed with format back then, and everyone was thinking about what the book represented as a first step, as opposed to what it WAS. But it doesn&#039;t really hold up, and all our huffing and puffing about how this would break comics out of the nerd ghetto at last seems... well, as silly as it looks when I type it out.

You really have no IDEA how fixated we all were on the idea of mainstream acceptance. And McGregor was determined to prove that comics could be Adult, they could Do It All, and as a result he tried to cram in everything he could think of.

It&#039;s worth picking up, though, if you can get it cheap. I paid $3 for mine from a bargain bin and that seems about right.

...and yeah, I&#039;ve read a lot of junk, but you have to remember, I&#039;ve been reading these things for forty years, and you kind of have to have a taste for junk culture in the first place if you love comics enough to write about them. So it&#039;s not really a burden. Besides, I read fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can someone tell me what Don McGregorâ€™s <em>Sabre</em> was about, and which meaty issues of the day McGregor tackles within it?</p></blockquote>
<p>A noble, passionate man in a fractured, feudalistic dystopian future America fights to retain his individuality and freedom against a corrupt and decadent  authority&#8230; but still must, in the end, walk away from the woman he loves and the unborn child of his that she is carrying. &#8220;Why does it COST so much to take a STAND??&#8221;</p>
<p>Plus lots of goofball SF satire stuff&#8230;. the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach you saw in a lot of late 70&#8242;s science-fiction comics. Swords and rayguns, gladitorial combat arenas and clone vats. Etc. It&#8217;s kind of the one-stop shop for everything that we ever saw in 70&#8242;s space-opera comics. Smoosh together Kamandi and Killraven and Deathlok&#8217;s worlds and you get Sabre&#8217;s vile, decadent America of 2020.</p>
<p>In fairness, the art from Paul Gulacy is absolutely stunning, and McGregor, despite the usual over-writing, crafted a pretty fair adventure. I make fun of the book mostly because at the time we all thought it was the Next Great Leap &#8212; there&#8217;s back-cover pull-quote blurbs from Gary Groth and Ed Via about how <strong>Important!!</strong> this book is. &#8220;First graphic novel produced for the direct market.&#8221; Remember, we were all obsessed with format back then, and everyone was thinking about what the book represented as a first step, as opposed to what it WAS. But it doesn&#8217;t really hold up, and all our huffing and puffing about how this would break comics out of the nerd ghetto at last seems&#8230; well, as silly as it looks when I type it out.</p>
<p>You really have no IDEA how fixated we all were on the idea of mainstream acceptance. And McGregor was determined to prove that comics could be Adult, they could Do It All, and as a result he tried to cram in everything he could think of.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth picking up, though, if you can get it cheap. I paid $3 for mine from a bargain bin and that seems about right.</p>
<p>&#8230;and yeah, I&#8217;ve read a lot of junk, but you have to remember, I&#8217;ve been reading these things for forty years, and you kind of have to have a taste for junk culture in the first place if you love comics enough to write about them. So it&#8217;s not really a burden. Besides, I read fast.</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone tell me what Don Mcgregor&#039;s Sabre was about, and which meaty issues of the day Mcgregor tackles within it?

He looks like a pirate, the girl looks &#039;modern&#039;, there&#039;s a castle and a futuristic city.
It confuses me.

As for the other stuff, sometimes I wish I&#039;d read everything Greg Hatcher has.
But then I realise how much bad he must have read to be able to bring us the good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone tell me what Don Mcgregor&#8217;s Sabre was about, and which meaty issues of the day Mcgregor tackles within it?</p>
<p>He looks like a pirate, the girl looks &#8216;modern&#8217;, there&#8217;s a castle and a futuristic city.<br />
It confuses me.</p>
<p>As for the other stuff, sometimes I wish I&#8217;d read everything Greg Hatcher has.<br />
But then I realise how much bad he must have read to be able to bring us the good.</p>
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		<title>By: tricia s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>tricia s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read &quot;The Upturned Stone&quot; in this one issue of Heavy Metal? It brillantly mixes adolescent humor without overdoing it with horror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read &#8220;The Upturned Stone&#8221; in this one issue of Heavy Metal? It brillantly mixes adolescent humor without overdoing it with horror.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jog has a good review of Empire (from almost exactly two years ago!) here:

http://joglikescomics.blogspot.com/2005/02/old-stuff-from-todays-stars-part-1-of.html

He argues that it&#039;s an early version of the &quot;widescreen&quot; style of comics art that&#039;s been so popular in the early 21st century.  Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jog has a good review of Empire (from almost exactly two years ago!) here:</p>
<p><a href="http://joglikescomics.blogspot.com/2005/02/old-stuff-from-todays-stars-part-1-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://joglikescomics.blogspot.com/2005/02/old-stuff-from-todays-stars-part-1-of.html</a></p>
<p>He argues that it&#8217;s an early version of the &#8220;widescreen&#8221; style of comics art that&#8217;s been so popular in the early 21st century.  Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™ve seen a â€œBest ofâ€ Star*Reach mini-series (First Comics?). Would that contain most of the worthwhile stuff from the series or should I really seek out the originals?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, not MOST. Some. It only ran six issues, from Eclipse. I think those reprints concentrated mostly on the shorter pieces; the idea was, I think, to collect the longer serials in trade. &quot;Sacred and the Profane&quot; got a nice trade paperback collection, and I think some of Russell&#039;s stuff was redone for &lt;em&gt;Night Music.&lt;/em&gt; Not sure, though. Beyond that I couldn&#039;t tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™ve seen a â€œBest ofâ€ Star*Reach mini-series (First Comics?). Would that contain most of the worthwhile stuff from the series or should I really seek out the originals?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, not MOST. Some. It only ran six issues, from Eclipse. I think those reprints concentrated mostly on the shorter pieces; the idea was, I think, to collect the longer serials in trade. &#8220;Sacred and the Profane&#8221; got a nice trade paperback collection, and I think some of Russell&#8217;s stuff was redone for <em>Night Music.</em> Not sure, though. Beyond that I couldn&#8217;t tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Schamberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Schamberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Tree kicks so much ass.  It&#039;s a horrible shame it&#039;s not in print.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Procopio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Procopio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen a &quot;Best of&quot; Star*Reach mini-series (First Comics?). Would that contain most of the worthwhile stuff from the series or should I really seek out the originals?

Thanks...

Joe

P.S. Nice piece by the way!</description>
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<p>Thanks&#8230;</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<p>P.S. Nice piece by the way!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was really interesting.  I&#039;m fairly well versed in the undergrounds of the seventies, but I knew almost nothin&#039; about the more... genre-oriented grown-up comics between Witzend and Raw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was really interesting.  I&#8217;m fairly well versed in the undergrounds of the seventies, but I knew almost nothin&#8217; about the more&#8230; genre-oriented grown-up comics between Witzend and Raw.</p>
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		<title>By: mikesensei</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesensei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderful overview. As a kid, I bought both the &quot;Starfawn&quot; and &quot;Chandler&quot; issues of Fiction Illustrated when they came out--they&#039;re still packed away somewhere--proud to be able to enjoy such &quot;adult&quot; fare. Steranko&#039;s Chandler, along with seeing &quot;The Maltese Falcon&quot; on TV, were a gateway drug that got me reading all of Hammett and Chandler on one hand, and tracking down back issues of &quot;Nick Fury, Agent of Shield&quot; and &quot;X-Men&quot; on the other. In retrospect, your point about the early experiments being too tied to genre fiction is a good one. 

Around the same age, I sampled the Warren magazines: There was some good work in the horror mags, but it was their Spirit reprints that won my heart.

I was (and am) a huge comics fan, but even so, as a raging-hormones male adoescent, I found that there was no good reason to wade through Heavy Metal since I knew where my older brother stashed his Playboys. They seemed to be going after the same audience.

Years later, &quot;RAW&quot; was a revalation. Not all of it &quot;worked&quot; for me, but the stuff that did--and I&#039;m not only talking about &quot;Maus&quot; here--was mind-blowing.

I love these kinds of posts--keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful overview. As a kid, I bought both the &#8220;Starfawn&#8221; and &#8220;Chandler&#8221; issues of Fiction Illustrated when they came out&#8211;they&#8217;re still packed away somewhere&#8211;proud to be able to enjoy such &#8220;adult&#8221; fare. Steranko&#8217;s Chandler, along with seeing &#8220;The Maltese Falcon&#8221; on TV, were a gateway drug that got me reading all of Hammett and Chandler on one hand, and tracking down back issues of &#8220;Nick Fury, Agent of Shield&#8221; and &#8220;X-Men&#8221; on the other. In retrospect, your point about the early experiments being too tied to genre fiction is a good one. </p>
<p>Around the same age, I sampled the Warren magazines: There was some good work in the horror mags, but it was their Spirit reprints that won my heart.</p>
<p>I was (and am) a huge comics fan, but even so, as a raging-hormones male adoescent, I found that there was no good reason to wade through Heavy Metal since I knew where my older brother stashed his Playboys. They seemed to be going after the same audience.</p>
<p>Years later, &#8220;RAW&#8221; was a revalation. Not all of it &#8220;worked&#8221; for me, but the stuff that did&#8211;and I&#8217;m not only talking about &#8220;Maus&#8221; here&#8211;was mind-blowing.</p>
<p>I love these kinds of posts&#8211;keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Hatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shucks, fellas, pick a Holmes pastiche you like better and slide it in there; but I think the point stands. I picked Laurie King because I think her Mary Russell books are more &lt;em&gt;ambitious,&lt;/em&gt; in lit&#039;ry terms, than most Holmes pastiches. But you certainly could say the same about Carole Nelson Douglas or Nicholas Meyer or Michael Chabon or Sena Naslund or Michael Dibdin or about half a dozen others. What I was getting at was the idea of a pastiche that&#039;s AIMING higher than the originals, as opposed to merely trying to copy them.

None of which is a slam on Doyle, by the way. I&#039;m as big a Holmes geek as I am a comics geek. But I&#039;m surprised there are so many of us reading this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shucks, fellas, pick a Holmes pastiche you like better and slide it in there; but I think the point stands. I picked Laurie King because I think her Mary Russell books are more <em>ambitious,</em> in lit&#8217;ry terms, than most Holmes pastiches. But you certainly could say the same about Carole Nelson Douglas or Nicholas Meyer or Michael Chabon or Sena Naslund or Michael Dibdin or about half a dozen others. What I was getting at was the idea of a pastiche that&#8217;s AIMING higher than the originals, as opposed to merely trying to copy them.</p>
<p>None of which is a slam on Doyle, by the way. I&#8217;m as big a Holmes geek as I am a comics geek. But I&#8217;m surprised there are so many of us reading this.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Whoa, whoa. Careful there. Laurie Kingâ€™s novels do not qualify as pastiches that â€œrise above the source material.â€ Not by a long shot. If any one Sherlock Holmes pastiche has the chance, itâ€™s Nicholas Meyersâ€™ The Seven Per-Cent Solution. But Conan Doyleâ€™s original works stand on their own as excellent writing.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t care for Laurie King&#039;s stuff myself. Nicholas Meyers is okay. My Holmes pastiche of choice is the Irene Adler series by Carole Nelson Douglas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whoa, whoa. Careful there. Laurie Kingâ€™s novels do not qualify as pastiches that â€œrise above the source material.â€ Not by a long shot. If any one Sherlock Holmes pastiche has the chance, itâ€™s Nicholas Meyersâ€™ The Seven Per-Cent Solution. But Conan Doyleâ€™s original works stand on their own as excellent writing.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care for Laurie King&#8217;s stuff myself. Nicholas Meyers is okay. My Holmes pastiche of choice is the Irene Adler series by Carole Nelson Douglas.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, whoa.  Careful there.  Laurie King&#039;s novels do not qualify as pastiches that &quot;rise above the source material.&quot;  Not by a long shot.  If any one Sherlock Holmes pastiche has the chance, it&#039;s Nicholas Meyers&#039; The Seven Per-Cent Solution.  But Conan Doyle&#039;s original works stand on their own as excellent writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, whoa.  Careful there.  Laurie King&#8217;s novels do not qualify as pastiches that &#8220;rise above the source material.&#8221;  Not by a long shot.  If any one Sherlock Holmes pastiche has the chance, it&#8217;s Nicholas Meyers&#8217; The Seven Per-Cent Solution.  But Conan Doyle&#8217;s original works stand on their own as excellent writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  T beat me to it.  Damn you, T!!!!!</description>
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