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Friday Retail Therapy
When the going gets tough? The tough go shopping.
You may recall that we had one of Steve Miner's one-day shows here last weekend. Ostensibly this was one of our informal field trips for the Cartooning Class, but as it turned out, none of the kids made it. That made it 0 for 2 on recent outings as far as students were concerned. Pity.
Except this time, I had Julie with me. And extra cash.
So we--
... well, we went nuts, really. We blew all sorts of dough on all sorts of things.
We rationalized it as being something we deserved, we've had a lot of aggravating personal stuff and medical crap to deal with over the last few weeks, and so on and so on... but the truth is, we just don't have a lot of sales resistance. And there was a lot of good stuff to be had.
Here's the thing. My wife is not a shopper. She's a browser. She loves to look at things and chat up the dealers and poke through all the quarter boxes for hours at a time. But, left on her own, rarely will she purchase anything over a dollar. She has no interest at all in getting anything for herself, she's not acquisitive in that sense.
But if I'm there WITH her... Julie morphs into a shopping ENABLER. "Oh, come on, honey. When are you going to ever see that book again? You should just get it."
Dealers love this, as you may well imagine. "Yeah, how can you pass it up, mister? If the missus approves..."
Julie just likes seeing people who are happy. Scoring cool old books makes me happy; selling books makes dealers happy; and being surrounded by happy people makes Julie happy. Result: we accumulate old books and comics the way clothes dryers accumulate lint.
Even so, this was a bit of a spree, even for us. My wife rationalized it this way: "You can write about them in your column."
Which is all the excuse I needed, and so here is an accounting of our loot, interspersed with the usual rambling anecdotes and commentary and so on.
In fairness, it didn't really start at the show. It started the day before, when we had some time to kill before seeing a movie and we wandered into Half-Price Books down in the Southcenter Mall. Julie wanted some Ellery Queen and she left me poking through the comics. And there was an amazing unbroken run of the 80's Hawkman; the Shadow War mini-series, the one-shot Special, and then the first year or so of the monthly that followed it up, for thirty-two cents each. Seventeen books in all. Total cash outlay -- maybe six bucks with tax.

I don't know that you'd really call me a Hawkman fan; I'm almost a Hawk-fan though. I have a vague affection for the basic concept, and so I guess I fall into that gray area of readers that would buy a Hawk series if it was good, but that doesn't happen often enough to suit me. (My friend Kurt Mitchell and I have often killed a large hunk of an evening talking about how to fix Hawkman.) I suppose you can trace my affection for the character to my childhood love of the original Birdman cartoons.
Pause for digression. This may well be yet another of Hatcher's maybe-you-had-to-be-there geezer things, but... You have to understand, all those 60's Alex Toth adventure toons for Hanna-Barbera -- Herculoids, Space Ghost, Mightor, Birdman and the Galaxy Trio, all of them -- they were pure adrenaline. They were six-minute shorts and at least four-and-a-half of those minutes involved the hero breaking stuff or blowing it up. Wall-to-wall violence. That was their great charm. Space Ghost, the template for all the rest, was practically the Dirty Harry of outer space in his original incarnation. Typically, the big guy would end a battle by hurling Brak or Metallus or whoever into a flaming energy vortex, and when the screaming died down, intone "A fitting ending for his kind!" and that would be that.
Of course, once parents got wind of this, it was all over; they were so appalled and threw such a fit that all sorts of restrictions were promptly put into place by the networks, which is why nobody ever threw a punch on Super Friends. But for one glorious season, '67-'68 I think it was, you had hours of these explosive animated superheroics, most of them designed by Alex Toth working out of the Hanna-Barbera studios. I know most of you reading this are thinking, "Wait a minute -- Harvey Birdman? That wimp? Huh?" but when I talk about Birdman, I mean this guy.

The human avatar of the sun god Ra, that came screaming out of the sky to blast evildoers into their component atoms.

Of course, I knew about Hawkman too, from the same Saturday-morning season -- the Hawkman shorts rotating through the middle of The Superman-Aquaman Hour.

Those were fun, but on TV Hawkman was rather bloodless compared to Birdman. Birdman had a secret headquarters in a mountain, blasters, a glowing energy-shield, and the attitude of Charles Bronson in Death Wish. Hawkman drove around in a spaceship that looked like it was being piloted with my grandma's 10-key adding machine, his only weapon was a club (well, okay, a mace, but still) and he never even hit anybody with the damn thing. Plus he was a lot stiffer and slower-moving than Birdman. At the tender age of six, I couldn't tell exactly why Filmation's cartoons always looked crappier than Hanna-Barbera's, but I knew it was true.
In comics, though, it was a different story. Birdman rotated through Gold Key's Super TV Heroes and had rather pedestrian adventures.

The book had that vague 'off' feeling that I often got from the Gold Key super-hero books... it wasn't enough like the TV show to be satisfying and it had nowhere near the power of the Marvel and DC books.
The comics Hawkman was better. Especially the reprints with the Joe Kubert artwork. I could get behind those. When Kubert drew the Hawks, they had power. Majesty, even. But still... the stories weren't really doing it for me. With Hawkman it was always the visuals. I loved drawing him -- my fifth-grade notebooks had lots of Hawkman doodles. But the stories were, too often, just plain dull. Why couldn't we get more moments like in the origin story, where the villainous shapechanger Byth turned into a dinosaur and the Hawks beat him by putting on pointy brass knuckles (a helpful footnote explained it was called a "cestus") and flying up to hit him in his giant snarling lizard face?

Now THAT was bad-ass. Even the TV Birdman might not have had the balls for that.
....so, anyway. All this rambling reminiscence is by way of explaining why I was willing to take a chance on 80's Hawkman. I'd missed it the first time around, thinking it was the same old dullness, but in the intervening years I'd read enough about what Tony Isabella had been trying to do with the revival that I was interested. Particularly in how he tried to fix what Kurt and I have always thought was the biggest problem with the Silver Age Hawkman -- Thanagar.
I love Hawkman, but I hate the Thanagar origin. It doesn't make sense on any level. Two cops chase an alien supercrook to earth in a spaceship armed with rayguns and a mind-reading device, and then they ignore all this alien tech they brought with them and spend the next 20 pages trying to catch this super-powered alien with clubs and big nets. Worse, the reason they decide to keep hanging around Earth after they catch the guy is to study our police methods. The raygun-armed, telepathy-machine-owning cops who can fly want to see how we do it? Learn police work from the DC Silver Age police that couldn't even catch the Turtle Man? Even at the age of seven I knew that was stupid.
Geoff Johns, with the current version, handled the Thanagar problem by dumping it completely and doing the Golden Age reincarnated-Egyptian Hawkman instead, with just a couple of brief nods in Thanagar's direction; an elegant solution. Tony Isabella's solutions to the same questions aren't quite as good but I did like the attempt a lot. He manages to explain a lot of the contradictions in the Silver Age origin story, or at least acknowledge they exist, and he picks up on the idea that the Absorbacon is actually a pretty scary device and runs with it. The mini-series reads fine on its own but it also sets up a really nice premise and story springboard, and insures the basic series conflict is one where Hawkman and Hawkwoman can't just phone the JLA and take care of it over the weekend. Plus, he has the Hawks acting like actual married people which always gets points from me.
Sadly, when Isabella left the book it suffered a little, the Mishkin-written issues don't feel nearly as personal; but the books Isabella wrote are worth picking up, especially the original four-issue mini-series revival, Shadow War of Hawkman.

The art from Rich Howell is nice too. I especially liked it when Alfredo Alcala was inking it, that combination evoked the Kubert look without actually imitating it. I certainly enjoyed these books six dollars' worth, at any rate. Particularly when Byth showed up around nine issues into the regular monthly. (And if you want to see Hawkman and Hawkgirl punch dinosaur-Byth in the face with their nasty spiked Roman-gladiator brass knucks, the upcoming Hawkman Showcase will have that one. I swear I'm not making it up.)
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That rambled a bit more than I intended, so I'll try to keep the rest of the accounting short. (No promises, though.)
When we were actually at the show and decided we were having a shopping day, the first thing Julie asked me was, "Do you see our guy here?"
"Our guy" is Art Mallonee, who actually deals only peripherally in comics. Art's booth is a wonderland: he carries original Oz hardcovers, Big Little Books, movie and TV publicity one-sheets, and rare old pulp magazines and paperbacks, along with obscure old comics. No matter how stern and budget-minded we try to be, we invariably end up dropping a huge wad of cash at Art's table because his entire STOCK is comprised of stuff about which my wife can say, "oh, but if you don't get it today then when are you ever going to see it again?"
I found one of the old Gold Key Lone Ranger reprint books I didn't have, for three dollars, and foolishly thought I was done. I told Art, "I think I'll take this one."
Art's great gift is not salesmanship, exactly, but rather what retailers call 'upselling.' He has an uncanny knack for getting you to add stuff to your total. Art saw my piddling little three-dollar reprint Ranger and said, "Oh, hey, you know I've got some other Lone Ranger books here." He dug around in the back of the booth and pulled this out of its mylar sleeve:

I probably gasped audibly, because Art smiled the smile of a man who knows he's got a live one. "Number thirteen, from 1949," Art said slyly. "In great shape. And look here on the back, they always had these great Native American drawings." It was a head shot of an Indian chief that, according to the tiny type below, was Geronimo, an Apache Chief. Art spun it around to display the front cover again. "You can see he was still in the red shirt, it wasn't until Clayton Moore and the television show that they put him in the blue."
"Oh, you know you want it honey," said my wife, encouragingly.
"But... thirty-two dollars?" I was desperately trying to hang on to some shred of willpower.
"Half-price," Art said, instantly. "I'll go sixteen. Sixteen dollars for a genuine Golden Age original. Can't beat that."
Finally, I nodded. I'm weak.
Then Art asked Julie if she saw anything SHE liked. Now I knew we were doomed, because it didn't matter WHAT she said -- Art would have it. He's got everything.
"Oh, I just like Peanuts books," Julie said.
And as if by magic Art produced this one:

"The Peanuts stories in here have never been reprinted anywhere, this is the only place you can find them," Art said.
"Not even in the Fantagraphics books?" Julie was surprised.
"No," I agreed. "These are the ones by Dale Hale, remember, I wrote about them a while back, when you got your other Peanuts comics. These are all-original, they were never in newspapers at all."
"Tell you what, I'll go sixteen on this one too," Art said.
Julie looked doubtful. I said, with some asperity, "Oh, get something for yourself for once. It's not like you don't deserve a treat. --We'll take it."
Julie protested a little but her heart wasn't in it. So we started out to spend three dollars and dropped almost forty. That's Art.
Later at home I looked them up on the GCD. The Ranger book lists Fran Striker as writing the stories, though it's possible they were ghosted by Gaylord DuBois, I suppose; he was already doing the novels for Striker. DuBois is credited with the backup strip in the issue, featuring "Young Hawk." Overall the book is great fun -- two Ranger adventures, the Young Hawk story, and a text piece from Bill Ely, that he apparently also illustrated: "Bear Evidence," about a bear hunt gone horribly wrong. Plus, a page of fun facts about war clubs and tomahawks.
Julie's was the better deal, though. That one is absolutely pristine except for a slight age yellowing, and it has not only a new Peanuts story by Dale Hale, but also a Nancy strip by John Stanley and Hy Eisman that Julie enjoyed a great deal, and also a story with the Katzenjammer Kids (here called "The Captain and the Kids".) Even the mighty researchers of the GCD have been unable to identify who did the last story in the book. You can read more about Dell Comics and this particular hiccup in newspaper strip history, the only non-Schulz Peanuts comics ever published, here.
After we spent all that you'd think we were done, right? Well, I'd have thought so too -- but two tables down from Art was Randy's Readers Comics, the place for cheap Bronze Age goodness. Randy's booth always sweeps me away. And this time he'd brought his Marvel Magazine stock.

He had Deadly Hands of Kung Fu and The Hulk! magazines listed at a dollar each. ONE DOLLAR. These are two runs I've been picking at on eBay for the last year and a half, but not often, because you almost never see them for under ten dollars a book.
"Billy Jack by Neal Adams," Randy said, grinning. "Can't beat that."

I must have the most readable face ever; dealers can always tell when I'm overcome with temptation. "You sure can't."
I surrendered to the impulse. After all, as Julie says, when were we ever going to see these again?
We dropped twenty-two bucks there. Put a huge dent in the Hulk want list, and damn near cleaned up the Deadly Hands list. I've written about both books at some length in this space before and so I won't go through it all again. But I was a very happy man, if for no other reason than finally getting the first chapter of "Swordquest." I've been waiting thirty-some years to read that one.
So that was our shopping spree. A couple of quick footnotes to it -- when we got home, there was more loot to be had in the mail. My deep-discounted pulp replicas had arrived -- the new Shadow and the new Doc Savage.

I already own a great many of these stories in the old 70's Bantam and Pyramid paperback editions, so I couldn't in good conscience spend the money on new editions of books I already had, no matter how lovingly re-created. But these were stories I hadn't read and didn't own, and when I saw them on Amazon for a third of the list price it was an automatic reflex to order them.

I mention them here mostly to plug them because I'd love for this venture to be a success -- the books are gorgeous, and there's lots of new material, too. The Doc reprint pictured not only has a great intro by Peter David (well, I thought it was great, probably because he reminisced about how he encountered Doc -- on the drugstore spinner rack in the 60's, same as I did) but there's also a terrific historical piece by Will Murray, with lots of cool photos of Lester Dent. Recommended, especially since they are taking a "Best Of", greatest-hits approach with how they choose the tales to reprint, rather than just doing them in chronological order... so you get right to the good stuff.
And now we have lots to read. I got a column out of it, and with Julie convalescing at home for the next month, she says that she is going to really get caught up on HER reading.
As a housekeeping note, I should add that my wife got all puddled up seeing all the well-wishes extended here in last week's comments. "Bless you all," she says, but adds, "I felt kind of bad for Trevor, you gave him such a great review and nobody cared. People should talk about the books, not me."
So, thanks again to everyone who expressed get-well wishes. Know that we are doing quite a bit better, all medical prognoses are good, and, you know, feel free to talk about the books, okay?
See you next week.
- Posted on March 2, 2007 @ 08:02 PM






19 Comments
Bill Reed
March 2, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Your wife is awesome.
And man, lots of good stuff in this column... ack.
Birdman *is* cooler than Hawkman. The reason I love the new Harvey Birdman so much is because I remember the old Birdman, along with all the other Hanna-Barbera superheroes. Space Ghost, Herculoids, Galaxy Trio (thank you, I can never remember their name), Shazzan, Atom Ant, Dynomutt, Captain Caveman, the Impossibles, Mightor... Back in the glorious 90's, when Cartoon Network was the greatest channel of all time, they had Superhero Saturdays, and I ate these shows up. Let's not forget later material like Thundarr the Barbarian (well, that was Ruby-Spears, but, you know) and my honest-to-God favorite cartoon, the 70's Godzilla animated series. Hanna Barbera was a wonderful, glorious thing, and I miss watching all their cartoons. Loved Captain Planet and SWAT Kats too in the 90's. The good ol' days...
That Cartoon Super-Heroes book looks lovely, and I want one. Ha. I don't think I've heard of Young Samson and Goliath, so that's neat.
Billy Jack? For a dollar? Hot damn, I wish I was there, man. Marvel should really bring back some kind of Kung-Fu title. Shang Chi, at least, needs a small coat of revamp and a sprig of nostalgic joy.
FunkyGreenJerusalem
March 2, 2007 at 10:53 pm
"Billy Jack? For a dollar? Hot damn, I wish I was there, man. Marvel should really bring back some kind of Kung-Fu title. Shang Chi, at least, needs a small coat of revamp and a sprig of nostalgic joy. "
They've got an Iron Fist title out at the moment.
Bill Reed
March 2, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Yeah, and I'm the only person in the world who doesn't think it's all that hot. And, like... Fraction! Aja! Severin! Heath! But, nope, not doing it for me.
Paperghost
March 2, 2007 at 11:27 pm
What I've never got about Hawkman - well, apart from the whole thing - is why some Egyptian God type thing chose to be reincarnated on some other planet somewhere.
Anyone?
FunkyGreenJerusalem
March 2, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Well, they're giving you what you say you want.
Here's the catch though - if this title fails, it will be decided that Kung Fu titles don't work, and you'll have to wait years until the next attempt.
So you'll have to buy multiple copies of this one so that they decide to do more.
Then you just have to hope that the other Kung Fu books aren't like this one.
(Did anyone else hate it when Scott Lobdell and Carlos Pacheo had Shang Chi in X-men? Man that sucked - Shang Chi did nothing, hell nobody did anything. They all just talked. Occasionally they flew to another location, but then they just talked there as well. What the hell?)
Fortress Keeper
March 2, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Some nice purchases there, and I'm totally with you on the old Alex Toth super-heroes. Nearly every episode of everything ended with a huge explosion!
Greg Hatcher
March 3, 2007 at 12:35 am
You'd have to ask Geoff Johns. My guess? He had to provide some sort of nod to Thanagar so everyone would shut up about it, and that seemed easiest.
You want an in-story reason, I suspect, though. There you go beyond my reach, I can't even come up with a plausible-sounding piece of doubletalk for you. Post-Hawkworld Hawkman continuity was such a nightmare, especially after Zero Hour -- still is, I don't think they ever really fixed it -- that the only viable option left is to ignore it and start over.
Except the modern marketplace will not accept that. You have to give an explanation. That was actually what prompted me to pick up the JSA "Return of Hawkman" trade in the first place, I was really curious to see the solution. I ended up liking the book way more than I thought I was going to, largely because "get rid of Thanagar and the SF angle" was number one on Kurt's and my own list of Hawkman fixes.
Really I think Johns had the best take on the character since the 40's. Crusading archaeologist and winged warrior. The mythology of the past collides with the present. It should be a book about exotic ruins and ancient curses and wizards and sorcery and stuff. Conan with wings and living in New Orleans. That's a Hawk book I could really get into.
Cei-U!
March 3, 2007 at 9:10 am
Hey, Greg, do me a favor. If Art Mallonee is set up at Emerald City, point him out to me!
Greg Hatcher
March 3, 2007 at 9:33 am
That was one of the first things Julie asked him, actually, Kurt. He'll be there. He promised to have more Gold Key Lone Ranger, too. I'm so doomed.
Perry Holley
March 3, 2007 at 11:17 am
Hulk magazine issues for a buck? I'm sooooo jealous (especially for the ones with the Dominic Fortune backup stories).
Oh, and tell Julie to get plenty of rest; hopefully the recovery period will go smoothly.
P.S. Greg, I absolutely *adored* "The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril", possibly the most fun I've had reading a book in quite some time. Thanks for pluggin it a couple of weeks ago.
Loren
March 3, 2007 at 12:49 pm
I'll give it a shot. In JLU, Hawkman was the reincarnation of an ancient Egyptian ruler, but the ruler in question was in fact a stranded Thanagarian who was worshipped by the Egyptians. Just apply that origin to the regular DCU. If he was a Thanagarian to begin with, then it's understandable that after generations of being reincarnated on Earth, his soul would eventually find its way back to his home planet.
I don't know if this would confict with the existing backstory of the DCU Prince Khufu, but it seems plausible enough to me.
Incidentally, a similar schtick was used on "Lois & Clark," where it was revealed that Kal-El had had multiple past lives on Earth, so the 'Last Kryptonian' was actually a reincarnated human.
Ted Watson
March 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Concerning the reincarnation thing on TV's "Lois &
Clark," I didn't like that episode for the very reason that THAT didn't make any sense to me.
Just for the record, the original '60s "Herculoids" show, unlike the others but like "Shazzan" and "Young Samson" seen on that comic cover, consisted of two even--length cartoons, rather than three six--minute shorts. The '70s revival, combined with new Space Ghost and Galaxy Trio toons (as well as Space Kidettes segments that were in the Jetsons style of humor design and may have been all '60s reruns) during the original Star Wars craze, were shorter. THAT version even had cross--overs/team--ups.
I talked about the '80s Hawkman series on one of Brian's Urban Legends boards, but will repeat it here. Despite having categorically promised the readers he would explain why the Thanagarian absorbacon did not work on Police Commissioner Emmett, Tony Isabella quit the book without doing so, and this was also just as HIS Shadow War plot was approaching its climax. His successors never addressed the Emmett question. In the letter column, the editor said Tony's departure was because the writer felt he had done all he wanted to do with the series, which, obviously, was a LIE! There was no comment on this in subsequent letters there, or, to my surprise at the time, in the "Amazing Heroes" 'zine, my chosen comics news source then. Never understood this situation, but speculated on the CBUL board that there was some understanding throughout organized fandom at the time to say nothing. Anybody got a better explanation?
Bob Haney Prime
March 3, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Look dad, re Hawkman, two swinging words: Joe Kubert. Without the Kube, Hawkman's nowheresville. They should just keep reprinting those terrific tomes until the surface of the earth is covered with them. Then there'd be world peace because everyone would be reading the weirdest, greatest weirdest stuff ever drawn. Well, looking at the pictures anyway. Or suffocated by them so, like, world peace, right?
Re Birdman and the other Toth madness on TV. If you weren't there, you missed staring at the square tube of miracles.
Latersville.
(Greg, best to your wife and you.)
Greg Hatcher
March 5, 2007 at 8:44 am
Well, I suppose I should put my money where my mouth is.... but I glanced at it at the shop and it didn't look like very much fun, to be honest.
The thing that made the kung fu books fun -- in my opinion, anyway -- was their relative isolation. Shang-Chi, especially, spent most of his career doing his own thing in his own little chop-socky corner of the MU, and when he crossed over it was either A) in other people's books or B) with other kung fu guys like Iron Fist or the White Tiger. There were only one or two exceptions I can remember off the top of my head, the Dr. Doom story being the only big one.
I'm really not interested in a new book that would have to be jammed in to all this Civil War Initiative crap. Really that's what put me off Iron Fist, the certainty that it would have all this unnecessary continuity crap shoehorned into it. If it turns out I'm wrong, hell, I'll probably pick it up then. But for one thing I am trying to go trade-only, and for another, bigger thing, the burning need to be in-continuity is, to my mind, the single biggest liability on Eternals and White Tiger, two other books that I otherwise like quite a bit. But it feels like every so often they pause to do their Contractually-Obligated Continuity Acknowledgment Page and that really gets on my nerves.
The original Iron Fist, and then later Power Man and Iron Fist, worked best when it was in its own bubble. I really think more superhero books should be conscientious about staying in their own weight class. What I remember most about Shang-Chi meeting Spider-Man or Dr. Doom back in the day is how ridiculous it was and how much it didn't work. At their best, the Marvel kung fu books were all about NON-superhero adventure -- like Milton Caniff's "Terry and the Pirates" with a 70's James Bond spin.
david brothers
March 5, 2007 at 11:28 am
You're in luck, Greg! the new Iron Fist is in its own bubble, beyond slight mentions of Civil War that boil down to (an organic) "My ex-girlfriend is using my old team's name to hunt down our friends? SUCK!" Luke Cage showed up for an issue, too, and they had a great talk.
David Aja's art is incredible, and Brubaker and Fraction are doing an awesome job with the book. Self-contained and they're telling a great story.
Also, John Severin and Russ Heath have done flashback sequences in a couple issues. You cannot turn that down!
Fabio
March 5, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Well, I have Repel in paperback. I have Resurrection Day in paperback and in a old argentine edition. But I didn't resist the temptation of buy this one reprint when I see at a lower price (they are some of expensives to me).
I confess, I'm a fan of the original owner of the Fortress of Solitude.
Pól Rua
March 5, 2007 at 11:51 pm
I'm loving the new Doc/Shadow reprints, and by thunder, I'm getting even the ones I already own.
I can't help it.
As a kid, my earliest comic book influences, alongside Speed Racer and The Thunderbirds, were the Hanna Barbera superheroes. As I was reading your piece, I could hear the old Birdman theme in my head. That steady driving brass, building to the inevitable explosion and shot after shot of bad guys just getting the crap blown out of 'em.
Awesome.
As you say, pure adrenaline.
And Birdman was definitely my favourite of the bunch.
Pól Rua
March 5, 2007 at 11:53 pm
As for justifying Thanagarians in the Golden Age Hawkman origin, nothing could be easier.
Von Danieken? Chariots of the Gods?
The Thanagarians visited Ancient Egypt. Piece of cake.
Why Johns has to muddle it up so much is beyond me.
Oh, no, that's right.
It's because he's Geoff Johns.
punk.
Dale Hale
March 14, 2007 at 8:34 am
Hey, Greg....thanks for the mention. Yes, I'm still alive and kicking. Dale Hale
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