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	<title>Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #93</title>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-876174</link>
		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I had no idea otto binder wrote a avengers prose novel. I bet that is the only marvel related thing he wrote since he mostly worked for dc and before that at fawcet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not quite true.  Binder did some work for Timely/Marvel in the &#039;40s, where he cocreated Miss America and Captain Wonder (recently revived in &lt;i&gt;The Twelve&lt;/i&gt;) and wrote the occasional story for Cap, Subby, the All-Winners Squad, et al. In fact he worked for pretty much every company around back then: Quality Comics (where he cocreated Kid Eternity), MLJ/Archie, Gold Key, etc.  Having created Fawcett&#039;s Mary Marvel, DC&#039;s Supergirl &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Marvel&#039;s Miss America is definitely nothing to sneeze at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I had no idea otto binder wrote a avengers prose novel. I bet that is the only marvel related thing he wrote since he mostly worked for dc and before that at fawcet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not quite true.  Binder did some work for Timely/Marvel in the &#8217;40s, where he cocreated Miss America and Captain Wonder (recently revived in <i>The Twelve</i>) and wrote the occasional story for Cap, Subby, the All-Winners Squad, et al. In fact he worked for pretty much every company around back then: Quality Comics (where he cocreated Kid Eternity), MLJ/Archie, Gold Key, etc.  Having created Fawcett&#8217;s Mary Marvel, DC&#8217;s Supergirl <i>and</i> Marvel&#8217;s Miss America is definitely nothing to sneeze at.</p>
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		<title>By: macsnafu</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-876173</link>
		<dc:creator>macsnafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know they had any Marvel prose novels in the 60&#039;s.  The earliest ones I knew about were the Marvel Novel Series from the late 70&#039;s, which I though were pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know they had any Marvel prose novels in the 60&#8242;s.  The earliest ones I knew about were the Marvel Novel Series from the late 70&#8242;s, which I though were pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powers</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-838669</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;....stainless steel slotted tubes were inserted into the marrow [of his bones]....&quot;  Jesus Christ!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.stainless steel slotted tubes were inserted into the marrow [of his bones]&#8230;.&#8221;  Jesus Christ!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-119362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about Binder&#039;s Avengers novel: the villain was called Karzz the Conqueror, and the similarities to Marvel&#039;s Kang were unmistakable to anyone familiar with one character when they first read the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about Binder&#8217;s Avengers novel: the villain was called Karzz the Conqueror, and the similarities to Marvel&#8217;s Kang were unmistakable to anyone familiar with one character when they first read the other.</p>
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		<title>By: supafly rabbi</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-112087</link>
		<dc:creator>supafly rabbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i heard the otto binder story sucked but the cap.america one was pretty good.

Also Charles Lindberg was right!!! being against war is always good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i heard the otto binder story sucked but the cap.america one was pretty good.</p>
<p>Also Charles Lindberg was right!!! being against war is always good.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea otto binder wrote a avengers prose novel. I bet that is the only marvel related thing he wrote since he mostly worked for dc and before that at fawcet. I definitly want to check out that avengers book if i can find it (probabbly out of print).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea otto binder wrote a avengers prose novel. I bet that is the only marvel related thing he wrote since he mostly worked for dc and before that at fawcet. I definitly want to check out that avengers book if i can find it (probabbly out of print).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert McKinney</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-68056</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on a non-political track here ...

Anybody think the two Cap books look a lot like those Doc Savage novels from the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on a non-political track here &#8230;</p>
<p>Anybody think the two Cap books look a lot like those Doc Savage novels from the same time?</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-67412</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blah blah blah, rhetoric, indignant, BLAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah blah blah, rhetoric, indignant, BLAH!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-67397</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Apology accepted (although I deny that being wrong when you&#039;re telling somebody else that THEY are wrong is not something to apologize for; why is it when somebody is &quot;Pure D&quot;---and conclusively proven to be---wrong TO me, being wrong is nothing to care about, but when I&#039;m wrong---or merely can&#039;t provide the proof that I&#039;m right---I&#039;m supposed to shout my supposed error to the hills? It&#039;s been that way all my life and I hate it!). And I again make my apology for not giving you a decent time to respond. The actual points I meant to make were that it was quite ironic that the Code seal was inadvertently left off an issue that had a Code--oriented controversy about its content, and that it was funny that Brian had posted a scan of the wrong cover, given that his intent was to demonstrate the missing Code seal---that&#039;s irrefutable---and in that era, Marvel&#039;s direct distribution copies didn&#039;t carry it at all (THAT, I admit, is an error that was no big deal in the sense that Brian didn&#039;t need to apologize for it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Apology accepted (although I deny that being wrong when you&#8217;re telling somebody else that THEY are wrong is not something to apologize for; why is it when somebody is &#8220;Pure D&#8221;&#8212;and conclusively proven to be&#8212;wrong TO me, being wrong is nothing to care about, but when I&#8217;m wrong&#8212;or merely can&#8217;t provide the proof that I&#8217;m right&#8212;I&#8217;m supposed to shout my supposed error to the hills? It&#8217;s been that way all my life and I hate it!). And I again make my apology for not giving you a decent time to respond. The actual points I meant to make were that it was quite ironic that the Code seal was inadvertently left off an issue that had a Code&#8211;oriented controversy about its content, and that it was funny that Brian had posted a scan of the wrong cover, given that his intent was to demonstrate the missing Code seal&#8212;that&#8217;s irrefutable&#8212;and in that era, Marvel&#8217;s direct distribution copies didn&#8217;t carry it at all (THAT, I admit, is an error that was no big deal in the sense that Brian didn&#8217;t need to apologize for it).</p>
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		<title>By: John Hall</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-2/#comment-66624</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Ted. I usually just stop by when the new Urban Legends go up, so I didn&#039;t see your reply. Anyway, guy, I am sorry, not for being wrong (because whatever, being wrong isn&#039;t a big deal) - but I was way too mean to you, even had I been right. My sincerest apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Ted. I usually just stop by when the new Urban Legends go up, so I didn&#8217;t see your reply. Anyway, guy, I am sorry, not for being wrong (because whatever, being wrong isn&#8217;t a big deal) &#8211; but I was way too mean to you, even had I been right. My sincerest apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that they included a high-tech &quot;TELE-VISION&quot; screen in the German bunker.  For 1941, that was far out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that they included a high-tech &#8220;TELE-VISION&#8221; screen in the German bunker.  For 1941, that was far out.</p>
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		<title>By: Alonso</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-1/#comment-66498</link>
		<dc:creator>Alonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someone just knows the answer to this outright or myabe it&#039;s been covered. I don&#039;t even think there&#039;s a myth in here...

In Paul Smith&#039;s second issue of X-Men/Alpha Flight, I swear that&#039;s Barry Windsor Smith inking on a hanful of pages (pages 35-39), even though only Bob Wiacek is in the credits. Let me know if anyone has any thoughts or knowledge on this. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone just knows the answer to this outright or myabe it&#8217;s been covered. I don&#8217;t even think there&#8217;s a myth in here&#8230;</p>
<p>In Paul Smith&#8217;s second issue of X-Men/Alpha Flight, I swear that&#8217;s Barry Windsor Smith inking on a hanful of pages (pages 35-39), even though only Bob Wiacek is in the credits. Let me know if anyone has any thoughts or knowledge on this. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-1/#comment-65654</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: &quot;You may want to give him more than 24 hours to respond.&quot;

Absolutely right. That very thing occurred to me after I had gotten off the computer yesterday, and I apologize to John for my impatience. I probably won&#039;t be able to check at all tomorrow, just for the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: &#8220;You may want to give him more than 24 hours to respond.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely right. That very thing occurred to me after I had gotten off the computer yesterday, and I apologize to John for my impatience. I probably won&#8217;t be able to check at all tomorrow, just for the record.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Hagen</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-1/#comment-65395</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Hagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude!!!  The Avengers Battle The Earth Wrecker!!!  My 2nd grade teacher had that book on the shelves, and I remember reading it for a book report!  I wasn&#039;t sure if it was real, but there it is... That cover is burned into my memory.  Now where in the world can I dig up a copy of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude!!!  The Avengers Battle The Earth Wrecker!!!  My 2nd grade teacher had that book on the shelves, and I remember reading it for a book report!  I wasn&#8217;t sure if it was real, but there it is&#8230; That cover is burned into my memory.  Now where in the world can I dig up a copy of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Black</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-1/#comment-65326</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to give him more than 24 hours to respond.

I think the focus was on the Captain America comic, not the Uncanny X-Men issue. I think the latter just served as a piece of secondary evidence, so pointing out that the inclusion of the direct distribution version fo the issue and saying it proved absolutely nothing was just nit picking.

The legend wasn&#039;t focused on issue 137 of Uncanny, it&#039;s just an interesting tidbit, so you pointing out the problems of the direct distribution version (in your words), &quot;proves absolutely nothing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to give him more than 24 hours to respond.</p>
<p>I think the focus was on the Captain America comic, not the Uncanny X-Men issue. I think the latter just served as a piece of secondary evidence, so pointing out that the inclusion of the direct distribution version fo the issue and saying it proved absolutely nothing was just nit picking.</p>
<p>The legend wasn&#8217;t focused on issue 137 of Uncanny, it&#8217;s just an interesting tidbit, so you pointing out the problems of the direct distribution version (in your words), &#8220;proves absolutely nothing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. John Hall hasn&#039;t had a thing to say. No apology for his gross misreading of my first post here and/or his rude and unjustifiable comments about me, nor any attempt at a defense of either/refutation of my response to him. I&#039;d say the latter is impossible and he&#039;s too arrogant to do the former, so he just drops it. Much more lacking in civility and fairness than anything I&#039;ve done that has been so characterized. (I continue to find further more--or--less technical errors in my earlier posts here, and apologize for THEM. I especially again apologize for losing track of which feature I was on and saying &quot;Greg&quot; instead of &quot;Brian.&quot; Forgot I had moved from &quot;Fridays...&quot; to CBUL, you see.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. John Hall hasn&#8217;t had a thing to say. No apology for his gross misreading of my first post here and/or his rude and unjustifiable comments about me, nor any attempt at a defense of either/refutation of my response to him. I&#8217;d say the latter is impossible and he&#8217;s too arrogant to do the former, so he just drops it. Much more lacking in civility and fairness than anything I&#8217;ve done that has been so characterized. (I continue to find further more&#8211;or&#8211;less technical errors in my earlier posts here, and apologize for THEM. I especially again apologize for losing track of which feature I was on and saying &#8220;Greg&#8221; instead of &#8220;Brian.&#8221; Forgot I had moved from &#8220;Fridays&#8230;&#8221; to CBUL, you see.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, way I saw it, if Joe Simon was okay with Kirby being considered co-creator of Captain America (which he certainly seemed to be in his book), then it was good enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, way I saw it, if Joe Simon was okay with Kirby being considered co-creator of Captain America (which he certainly seemed to be in his book), then it was good enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Coville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Coville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Captain America&#039;s creation, Joe Simon made a sketch of Captain America character and showed it to Martin Goodman and got approval on it. Simon was also the writer of the series. So as the guy that came up with the costume and origin/character he is considered to be the characters sole creator. A lot of this is in Les Daniels book Five Fabulous Decades of Marvel. 

Jack Kirby did pencil the first 10 issues, with Simon helping out here and there and inking. Some people think Kirby should be considered co-creator.
IIRC Simon sued Marvel for Captain America while Kirby was working there in the late 60s, Marvel pitted the two against each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Captain America&#8217;s creation, Joe Simon made a sketch of Captain America character and showed it to Martin Goodman and got approval on it. Simon was also the writer of the series. So as the guy that came up with the costume and origin/character he is considered to be the characters sole creator. A lot of this is in Les Daniels book Five Fabulous Decades of Marvel. </p>
<p>Jack Kirby did pencil the first 10 issues, with Simon helping out here and there and inking. Some people think Kirby should be considered co-creator.<br />
IIRC Simon sued Marvel for Captain America while Kirby was working there in the late 60s, Marvel pitted the two against each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarathos</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/03/08/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-93/comment-page-1/#comment-65087</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarathos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, nuke187, but I don&#039;t know where to begin finding a common point of reference between us when you believe that steel tariffs are &quot;capitalist&quot; and that Bush is a multilateral negotiator.  I can&#039;t even imagine your definition of &quot;Marxist,&quot; except possibly &quot;someone I don&#039;t like.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, nuke187, but I don&#8217;t know where to begin finding a common point of reference between us when you believe that steel tariffs are &#8220;capitalist&#8221; and that Bush is a multilateral negotiator.  I can&#8217;t even imagine your definition of &#8220;Marxist,&#8221; except possibly &#8220;someone I don&#8217;t like.&#8221;</p>
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