I distinctly recall when I first heard about the Marvel lawsuit, which was also the first time I even remotely heard about Plasmer, and which then led me to actually look into the premise of the Plasmer comic (mainly, to see if it was just the NAME Marvel was objecting to, or if it seemed like the Defiant comic could be confused based on the content as well).

My reaction was basically along the lines of "Jesus, Defiant should sue Marvel for having such a crappy comic and then connecting the two in the minds of the public."

Of course, my second thought was that Defiant was utterly screwed, since there was no way they were going to survive a legal war with Marvel, whether or not they were in the right. And between the lawsuit costs and the losses they suffered from the Warriors of Plasm #0 trading card fiasco, it's so not surprising that the whole thing tanked.

It's a shame, since I was hoping that the Shooter/Lapham team could help recapture some of the magic of the early Valiant run, but it was not to be.

>>> I get a tingle of perverse glee every time I remember that Cyborg Superman is Reed Richards.

I love the fact that HE actually noticed the parallels between him and Reed in one of the Marvel/DC crossovers.

>>> Just the one. When they took Cyborg Superman to STAR labs for testing, they found that his metal parts were indeed Kryptonian in origin - it turned out that was became he’d constructed his body using some bit of Krypton tech that he’d lucked into finding. Baby Kal’s rocket, maybe?

Yes, he basically found the "birthing matrix" that Superman came to Earth in (a sort of artificial womb that was basically the Byrne version of the rocketship that brought the baby, which got retconned back out by Waid), and used its technology to alter himself so he'd have the same DNA as Superman and the cyborg parts would register as Kryptonian.

jae lee, before he became tim bradstreet.

Craig Folsom

No Mans Land would have a similar political fallout.

Yeah, that was my number one problem with the entire premise of the storyline... then a few years later we had the whole Hurricane Katrina debacle, and suddenly "No Man's Land" seemed a hell of a lot more plausible, sad to say.

Marvel still has had some of the best multi-issue plots. Fatal Attractions was badass, Age of Apocolypse was badass and the Grant Morrison New X-Men was badass. Sadly they follow those plots with lots of really bad story arcs.

I just wish the big 2 would stop trying to re-create those types of events. ie: House of M. I think titles like X-Men would have kept making great stories if writer's didn't have to work within the constraints of movie properties and licensing. Bravo to Marvel if they actually keep Captain America dead for more then 12 issues..... if they make a movie they have to bring him back to not confuse things of course. Sadly I was starting to like Captain America for the first time ever.

cool urban legend stuff though.

-michael

I missed out on the Collosus turning towards Magneto bit as I had gotten burned out on the X-men for while (not for long). I bought X-men 25 and Wolverine 75 from a friend of mine along with the first 3 issues of Gen 13. I know have the other two of that series just recently. Come to think of it.... where is J Scott Campbell? Did he fall off the Earth or something?

Speaking as someone who read that story as a kid, I didn’t find it hard to understand at all. Everything remotely important was explained. And besides, “continuty” wasn’t the dirty word back then that it apparantly is now. People expected comics to have a history.

We're both speaking as someone who read that story as a kid, so that's a moot point.

I don't know what your continuity remark is in reference to.

As far as whether or not the whole Death/Funeral/Return thing was difficult to understand, it never bothered me. There was a lot of exposition, so you didn't have to be a particularly smart kid to follow it, even if you were only buying select parts of the story.

Speaking as someone who read that story as a kid, I didn't find it hard to understand at all. Everything remotely important was explained. And besides, "continuty" wasn't the dirty word back then that it apparantly is now. People expected comics to have a history.

I'm all but certain that's true, Harras mentioning it in several interviews, saying he was sitting in on a writer's meeting for the cartoon, someone pitched having a time-travller kill Xavier, and he asked thme to hold off on it so the book could do it first.

"Man, Marvel UK sucked, didn’t it?"

I'll second that, and not just for it's roots in the Doctor Who comic. Pendragon was decent as well.

Actually, it was Coast City. This helped lead to Hal Jordan going nuts and killing the Green Lantern Corps.

Unless you were trying to get into New Orleans in the first days after Katrina...