Comments on: 365 Reasons to Love Comics #92 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:40:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jesse http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76379 Jesse Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:46:46 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76379 Moore was attempting superhero deconstruction, and back in the 80's that was a novel approach. Also, the man is (and was) a talent of epic proportions. When you combine those two things, you're going to get all sorts of acclaim and imitators. Sadly, there are a lot of people in comics who still think it's clever to deconstruct heroes twenty years later, not to mention few of them have anything resembling Alan Moore's talent. So what you end up with is a mess of neurotic heroes existing in nihilistic stories that are just as bad as the one-dimensional hero vs. villain stories they claim to be so much smarter than. Moore was attempting superhero deconstruction, and back in the 80's that was a novel approach. Also, the man is (and was) a talent of epic proportions. When you combine those two things, you're going to get all sorts of acclaim and imitators. Sadly, there are a lot of people in comics who still think it's clever to deconstruct heroes twenty years later, not to mention few of them have anything resembling Alan Moore's talent. So what you end up with is a mess of neurotic heroes existing in nihilistic stories that are just as bad as the one-dimensional hero vs. villain stories they claim to be so much smarter than.

]]> By: sean http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76346 sean Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:41:26 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76346 And also 'Miracleman'. And also 'Miracleman'.

]]> By: sean http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76342 sean Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:37:41 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76342 "Moore gets lumped in as part of the origin of G&G because of the first, Rorshach-narrated, issue, and the later Rorshach-in-prison issue." I don't know, 'The Killing Joke' is kinda gritty too. "Moore gets lumped in as part of the origin of G&G because of the first, Rorshach-narrated, issue, and the later Rorshach-in-prison issue."

I don't know, 'The Killing Joke' is kinda gritty too.

]]> By: Jacob T. Levy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76324 Jacob T. Levy Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:54:06 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76324 I think the problem was typically more everyone trying to be Miller than everyone trying to be Moore. Moore gets lumped in as part of the origin of G&G because of the first, Rorshach-narrated, issue, and the later Rorshach-in-prison issue. But Watchmen had lots of different tones and points of view, and Nite-Owl and Laurie are more straightforwardly the protagonists than Rorshach is. A lot of 90s Vertigo consisted of Moore-wannabes, but that was mixed in with Gaiman-wannabes and other stuff too, and didn't ever seem to me like a terrible problem the way G&G did. I think the problem was typically more everyone trying to be Miller than everyone trying to be Moore. Moore gets lumped in as part of the origin of G&G because of the first, Rorshach-narrated, issue, and the later Rorshach-in-prison issue. But Watchmen had lots of different tones and points of view, and Nite-Owl and Laurie are more straightforwardly the protagonists than Rorshach is.

A lot of 90s Vertigo consisted of Moore-wannabes, but that was mixed in with Gaiman-wannabes and other stuff too, and didn't ever seem to me like a terrible problem the way G&G did.

]]> By: Matt http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76083 Matt Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:32:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76083 I've only just discovered Watchmen (and hell, Alan Moore) this year. Perhaps some of the best comics work ever. -M I've only just discovered Watchmen (and hell, Alan Moore) this year.

Perhaps some of the best comics work ever.

-M

]]> By: Michael http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76069 Michael Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:59:35 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76069 "Fortunately, we seem to have gotten past the every-writer-tries-to-be-Alan-Moore phase," Oh, if only this were true. "Fortunately, we seem to have gotten past the every-writer-tries-to-be-Alan-Moore phase,"

Oh, if only this were true.

]]> By: Tyson http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76050 Tyson Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:08:33 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76050 <blockquote>He’s absolutely fascinating, and yet I don’t even think he’s the most interesting character in the novel.</blockquote> That's what made <i>Watchmen</i> so good - every character is really interesting. My favorite scene in the book is where he confronts Rorschach at the end and Rorschach tears off his mask - love both those characters. I've seen more than one person say that <i>Watchmen</i> is both the best comic book ever, and the worst thing to happen to comics. Fortunately, we seem to have gotten past the every-writer-tries-to-be-Alan-Moore phase, and we can just enjoy Watchmen for what it is - a brilliant book.

He’s absolutely fascinating, and yet I don’t even think he’s the most interesting character in the novel.

That's what made Watchmen so good - every character is really interesting. My favorite scene in the book is where he confronts Rorschach at the end and Rorschach tears off his mask - love both those characters.

I've seen more than one person say that Watchmen is both the best comic book ever, and the worst thing to happen to comics. Fortunately, we seem to have gotten past the every-writer-tries-to-be-Alan-Moore phase, and we can just enjoy Watchmen for what it is - a brilliant book.

]]> By: Jacob T. Levy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76043 Jacob T. Levy Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:50:20 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76043 All the times I've read and reread Watchmen, and stared at the gorgeousness of issue 4, and sat slack-jawed at all the internal references and allusions and formal symmetries of the whole series, and I've never before noticed the Comedian smiley-face carved into the Martian landscape. Damn. All the times I've read and reread Watchmen, and stared at the gorgeousness of issue 4, and sat slack-jawed at all the internal references and allusions and formal symmetries of the whole series, and I've never before noticed the Comedian smiley-face carved into the Martian landscape. Damn.

]]> By: Jason http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76039 Jason Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:26:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76039 I think Dr. Doom can be squeezed into one of the remaining 273 days, especially when the new F4 movie gets released. I picked up a copy of <i>Stan Lee Meets Doctor Doom</i> over the weekend, and the reprint story was damn good. Venoms may come and go, but Doom's practically immortal. Getting back on topic...I'm ashamed that I didn't think of Jon. And I don't think "Everybody Wang Chung tonight!" was needed...for the first superman in his universe, Dr. Manhattan wasn't really that well endowed. I think Dr. Doom can be squeezed into one of the remaining 273 days, especially when the new F4 movie gets released. I picked up a copy of Stan Lee Meets Doctor Doom over the weekend, and the reprint story was damn good. Venoms may come and go, but Doom's practically immortal.

Getting back on topic...I'm ashamed that I didn't think of Jon. And I don't think "Everybody Wang Chung tonight!" was needed...for the first superman in his universe, Dr. Manhattan wasn't really that well endowed.

]]> By: Rebis http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76016 Rebis Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:38:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76016 Huzzah, Bill! Those three pages of Watchmen are my favorite sequence, too. I once made color xeroxes of them and had them mounted for a friend as a present. I'm not convinced she really appreciated it, but what the hell. I'm a little concerned about the Watchmen movie ... But crossing my fingers ... Huzzah, Bill! Those three pages of Watchmen are my favorite sequence, too. I once made color xeroxes of them and had them mounted for a friend as a present. I'm not convinced she really appreciated it, but what the hell.

I'm a little concerned about the Watchmen movie ... But crossing my fingers ...

]]> By: Bill Reed http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76014 Bill Reed Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:35:25 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76014 <blockquote>You probably wrote this already a million times but if Watchmen is your second favorite comic, what’s your first?</blockquote> Flex Mentallo! Woo. As for Doom and Fate: Really, I just don't think they're that cool. I'd rather see a list populated with fun characters like Dr. 13 and Dr. Bong than overrated and obvious ones like Doom and Fate. Sorry. Part of writing this column, however, is finding the awesomeness in a concept that may go overlooked, however... so there's always a chance they'll show up later. There are 273 days left. Or so. I can't count.

You probably wrote this already a million times but if Watchmen is your second favorite comic, what’s your first?

Flex Mentallo! Woo.

As for Doom and Fate: Really, I just don't think they're that cool. I'd rather see a list populated with fun characters like Dr. 13 and Dr. Bong than overrated and obvious ones like Doom and Fate. Sorry.

Part of writing this column, however, is finding the awesomeness in a concept that may go overlooked, however... so there's always a chance they'll show up later. There are 273 days left. Or so. I can't count.

]]> By: Tom Russell http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76012 Tom Russell Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:29:05 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76012 I think Dr. Doom has been irrepably damaged by the Fantastic Four movie, to the point where he is no longer so cool and menacing. I think Dr. Doom has been irrepably damaged by the Fantastic Four movie, to the point where he is no longer so cool and menacing.

]]> By: Cambert http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76010 Cambert Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:20:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76010 Did I miss Doctor Doom or something? Was he already done before Doctor week? That is the only answer not to have included him. Did I miss Doctor Doom or something? Was he already done before Doctor week? That is the only answer not to have included him.

]]> By: Mark http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-76008 Mark Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:18:12 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-76008 You probably wrote this already a million times but if Watchmen is your second favorite comic, what's your first? You probably wrote this already a million times but if Watchmen is your second favorite comic, what's your first?

]]> By: hifidigitalboy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/comment-page-1/#comment-75998 hifidigitalboy Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:48:45 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/04/02/365-reasons-to-love-comics-92/#comment-75998 Ummm... did I miss something or was Dr. Fate severely overlooked? Please tell me you are going to talk about him sometime this year. Ummm... did I miss something or was Dr. Fate severely overlooked? Please tell me you are going to talk about him sometime this year.

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