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		<title>By: sackett</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-398143</link>
		<dc:creator>sackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Tom Watson and Jman</description>
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		<title>By: J-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The demand for â€œcontinuityâ€ is a fanboy-placed boil on superhero books. It should be ignored whenever it can be.&quot;--Yeah, I&#039;m tired of characters who have a concrete backstory, and develop over the years.  Get rid of that.  Let&#039;s have endless Issue #1s, and characters who never age, and who have the same adventure over and over again, because they never accumulate a backstory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The demand for â€œcontinuityâ€ is a fanboy-placed boil on superhero books. It should be ignored whenever it can be."--Yeah, I'm tired of characters who have a concrete backstory, and develop over the years.  Get rid of that.  Let's have endless Issue #1s, and characters who never age, and who have the same adventure over and over again, because they never accumulate a backstory.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Behrens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Behrens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A feature article about Tim Sale (with quotes from Loeb) about &quot;Heroes&quot; and their comics work, from today&#039;s Chicago Tribune: 

http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/mmx-0517salemay17,1,3621815.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A feature article about Tim Sale (with quotes from Loeb) about "Heroes" and their comics work, from today's Chicago Tribune: </p>
<p><a href="http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/mmx-0517salemay17,1,3621815.story" rel="nofollow">http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/mmx-0517salemay17,1,3621815.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Poehler</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-94099</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Poehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was wondering: is the Jeff Loeb that works on the Heroes TV show the same man who wrote Batman: The Long Halloween?&quot;

Yes.  A Google search would have told you that in five seconds, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I was wondering: is the Jeff Loeb that works on the Heroes TV show the same man who wrote Batman: The Long Halloween?"</p>
<p>Yes.  A Google search would have told you that in five seconds, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Thenodrin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-91291</link>
		<dc:creator>Thenodrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would this be a good place to ask about an UL?  Maybe it isn&#039;t an Urban Legend, it is possible that it is just me being dense.  But, I was wondering: is the Jeff Loeb that works on the Heroes TV show the same man who wrote Batman: The Long Halloween?

Theno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would this be a good place to ask about an UL?  Maybe it isn't an Urban Legend, it is possible that it is just me being dense.  But, I was wondering: is the Jeff Loeb that works on the Heroes TV show the same man who wrote Batman: The Long Halloween?</p>
<p>Theno</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having also seen the dentist audition, his acting skills were pretty non-existent. He basically acted like a &quot;tough guy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having also seen the dentist audition, his acting skills were pretty non-existent. He basically acted like a "tough guy."</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-89788</link>
		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;According to The Making of Superman: The Movie by David Michael Petrou(a good read for fans of the film-check your local used bookstore or eBay), Alexander Salkind wanted a famous actor in the title role. He actually wanted Robert Redford as Superman. Redford turned Salkind down, as did his second choice, Paul Newman. After casting Marlon Brando and Gege Hackman, just about every actor in town from Steve McQueen to Clint Eastwood was considered. After many days of fruitless searching, Christopher Reeve was called and the rest is history.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I read somewhere that James Caan was lined up to play him at one point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>According to The Making of Superman: The Movie by David Michael Petrou(a good read for fans of the film-check your local used bookstore or eBay), Alexander Salkind wanted a famous actor in the title role. He actually wanted Robert Redford as Superman. Redford turned Salkind down, as did his second choice, Paul Newman. After casting Marlon Brando and Gege Hackman, just about every actor in town from Steve McQueen to Clint Eastwood was considered. After many days of fruitless searching, Christopher Reeve was called and the rest is history.</p></blockquote>
<p>I read somewhere that James Caan was lined up to play him at one point</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-89587</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s awesome! Did he seem like a good actor at all?</description>
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		<title>By: LtMarvel</title>
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		<dc:creator>LtMarvel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, there was the dentist audition on History Channel&#039;s &quot;The Amazing Story of Superman&quot; last night.  He had curly black hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, there was the dentist audition on History Channel's "The Amazing Story of Superman" last night.  He had curly black hair.</p>
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		<title>By: jrnewto</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-89423</link>
		<dc:creator>jrnewto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to recall a writer, who left Marvel to work on a major Hollywood animated cartoon, proposing a story making Eros a villain far more threatening than Thanos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to recall a writer, who left Marvel to work on a major Hollywood animated cartoon, proposing a story making Eros a villain far more threatening than Thanos.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in my childhood, I always loved Venom.

Then I found out he was kind of a dumb villain. My poor childhood dreams...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in my childhood, I always loved Venom.</p>
<p>Then I found out he was kind of a dumb villain. My poor childhood dreams...</p>
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		<title>By: SanctumSanctorumComix</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-89313</link>
		<dc:creator>SanctumSanctorumComix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 17:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a weirdo piece of Comic Urban Legend oddness...
(This came to me awhile ago, but I finally addressed it in the &quot;Elf with a Gun&quot; &quot;Reasons to Love Comics&quot; post)


Why is it that J.M. DeMatties (who was the writer who came up with the whole convoluted â€œTribunal/Time Agents/Elfâ€ thing) seems to have a track record of being the last writer on about a billion comic titles (from several companies) when the title gets the AX.

I can think of quite a few (past and recent) instances, including that particular run of The Defenders.

Knowing how spiritual the man and his writing can be, could he be a (not-so) Grim reaper, helping to usher those soon-to-be-departed comic titles across to the &quot;other side&quot;?

Seems like something Mulder, Scully and Cronin should look into.

ThanX!

~P~
P-TOR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a weirdo piece of Comic Urban Legend oddness...<br />
(This came to me awhile ago, but I finally addressed it in the "Elf with a Gun" "Reasons to Love Comics" post)</p>
<p>Why is it that J.M. DeMatties (who was the writer who came up with the whole convoluted â€œTribunal/Time Agents/Elfâ€ thing) seems to have a track record of being the last writer on about a billion comic titles (from several companies) when the title gets the AX.</p>
<p>I can think of quite a few (past and recent) instances, including that particular run of The Defenders.</p>
<p>Knowing how spiritual the man and his writing can be, could he be a (not-so) Grim reaper, helping to usher those soon-to-be-departed comic titles across to the "other side"?</p>
<p>Seems like something Mulder, Scully and Cronin should look into.</p>
<p>ThanX!</p>
<p>~P~<br />
P-TOR</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Dobalena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Dobalena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 05:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dentist audition is also on Superman movie DVD, both the 2001 pressing and recent 2006 set I believe.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Watson</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-88942</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 21:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TWG: &#039;The demand for â€œcontinuityâ€ is a fanboy-placed boil on superhero books. It should be ignored whenever it can be.&quot; 

Hardly. With superhero features, the writer has one helluva suspension of disbelief to accomplish going in. Being reasonably consistent with what his predecessors have done (not necessarily slavishly faithful to the smallest details, mind you) is a very good step in that direction. When he 100% contradicts something that the previous writer on the series wrote just a few months earlier, he makes it quite hard. Worse, many of those writers who ignored earlier stories complain loudly when THEIR work is subsequently disregarded. Their attitude is, to borrow from Benjamin Franklin, &quot;Continuity is always sacrosanct in the first person, such as &#039;MY continuity.&#039; It is only in the third person, &#039;THEIR continuity,&#039; that it becomes bullshit.&quot; To say that ignoring the earlier works should be mandatory is absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TWG: 'The demand for â€œcontinuityâ€ is a fanboy-placed boil on superhero books. It should be ignored whenever it can be." </p>
<p>Hardly. With superhero features, the writer has one helluva suspension of disbelief to accomplish going in. Being reasonably consistent with what his predecessors have done (not necessarily slavishly faithful to the smallest details, mind you) is a very good step in that direction. When he 100% contradicts something that the previous writer on the series wrote just a few months earlier, he makes it quite hard. Worse, many of those writers who ignored earlier stories complain loudly when THEIR work is subsequently disregarded. Their attitude is, to borrow from Benjamin Franklin, "Continuity is always sacrosanct in the first person, such as 'MY continuity.' It is only in the third person, 'THEIR continuity,' that it becomes bullshit." To say that ignoring the earlier works should be mandatory is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/03/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-101/comment-page-1/#comment-88734</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for writing in, Randy! I edited the piece to include your name!</description>
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		<title>By: Quentin Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is I think there&#039;s a few fans that can write Spider-man better than a certain guy who works at Marvel right now. 

His name startes with a &#039;J&#039;.

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is I think there's a few fans that can write Spider-man better than a certain guy who works at Marvel right now. </p>
<p>His name startes with a 'J'.</p>
<p> <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 16:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s easy for Grant Morrison to appear as a genius when he disregards any past continuity to tell the story he wants to tell.&quot;

Grant Morrison doesn&#039;t disregard continuity, it makes it work for him instead of being a slave to it.  Oh yeah, and he can write a good story too.

The comment by Tom DeFalco struck me as somewhat ironic as well.  Really, more than one idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Itâ€™s easy for Grant Morrison to appear as a genius when he disregards any past continuity to tell the story he wants to tell."</p>
<p>Grant Morrison doesn't disregard continuity, it makes it work for him instead of being a slave to it.  Oh yeah, and he can write a good story too.</p>
<p>The comment by Tom DeFalco struck me as somewhat ironic as well.  Really, more than one idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true. I was the fan who came up with the original idea for the black costume. (In my version it was made of the FF&#039;s unstable molecules, not an alien symbiote.) 

While I do regret that I never got my story published, it has been fun to watch what the idea has become over the years. Venom! Who would have thought? 

As the movie premiered this week I sent Tom Defalco and email to see if he remembered me. No response. That&#039;s kind of sad - I don&#039;t want any money from Marvel but I would LOVE some kind of acknowledgment that the idea came from me. They&#039;re probably afraid I&#039;ll sue or something.  

But at least the fans at CBR know the REAL secret origin of Spidey&#039;s black costume! 

PS If anyone is interested, I&#039;ve got copies of the original letters as proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's true. I was the fan who came up with the original idea for the black costume. (In my version it was made of the FF's unstable molecules, not an alien symbiote.) </p>
<p>While I do regret that I never got my story published, it has been fun to watch what the idea has become over the years. Venom! Who would have thought? </p>
<p>As the movie premiered this week I sent Tom Defalco and email to see if he remembered me. No response. That's kind of sad - I don't want any money from Marvel but I would LOVE some kind of acknowledgment that the idea came from me. They're probably afraid I'll sue or something.  </p>
<p>But at least the fans at CBR know the REAL secret origin of Spidey's black costume! </p>
<p>PS If anyone is interested, I've got copies of the original letters as proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Gharyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gharyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name of the fan who submitted the Spider-Man black costume story is Randy Schueller.  I first met him 24 years ago while I was managing a comic book shop in Park Ridge, IL.  He&#039;s the biggest Spidey fan I&#039;ve known and is thrilled that his contribution to the character is becoming known after all these years.  I&#039;ve seen the letter Jim Shooter sent him accepting the story, as well as photocopies of the check Marvel cut him in 1982 and the story itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name of the fan who submitted the Spider-Man black costume story is Randy Schueller.  I first met him 24 years ago while I was managing a comic book shop in Park Ridge, IL.  He's the biggest Spidey fan I've known and is thrilled that his contribution to the character is becoming known after all these years.  I've seen the letter Jim Shooter sent him accepting the story, as well as photocopies of the check Marvel cut him in 1982 and the story itself.</p>
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		<title>By: TWG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 14:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The demand for &quot;continuity&quot; is a fanboy-placed boil on superhero books. It should be ignored whenever it can be.</description>
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