But what it did best, was make shining knight very cool. He had great scenes in it.

I remember a video out at the time called "The Comic Book Greats" that had Stan Lee interviewing Liefeld and McFarlane and had them create characters 'on the spot' and do something in the 'Marvel style'.

To Rob's credit, he does hunker down and actually DRAW something (albeit a bit too Cable-ish) while Todd mainly talks and jokes a lot with Stan and doesn't accomplish a whole lot.

It was during the course of that video where Liefeld created Overkill, so the three-way joint credit seems reasonable given that all gentlemen were present when the character was born.

To this day I wonder if Rob and Todd knew at the time the video was made that they were going to be leaving Marvel soon.

I'm sorry but that is an incredibly dense statement. The implication is CLEARLY that other black people are NOT a credit to their race in Streak's eyes.

Yeah, that is pretty dopey. I don't even know what the theme of the character is just by the picture. It's not like it's the next Cable or anything. Cable is still around.

Did they really make 80,000 a month, the top Marvel artists?

McFarlane said he made 2 million all added up when he left Marvel.

That image for the cover (which was shown in a Marvel Age issue, I believe calling him none other than Cable) was identical to the leaping image shown in the pages of issue 1 of youngblood. It didn't even look redrawn. (probably re inked though)

BTW, it should be noted that Liefeld had already debuted Cougar as a member of Youngblood some years before, in an ad that showed up in some Megaton comics. If memory serves, it looked much more like the Cougar he would eventually use for his Image Youngblood.

Also, I disagree that the Streak was racist. The comment, "You're a credit to your people," is NOT a racist comment at all ... rather it is an honest compliment from an open-minded man (did he ever imply he looked down on GL?) who lives in a racist society. My mouth fell open when I heard that line, because I thought it was an immensily gutsy thing for the writers to put in ... that IS how people talked in the 50's.

Sorry guys, the guy in the west coast avengers picture is Puma an old spider-man villain.

Puma is ALSO in the picture. He is standing in front of Hulk. Cougar is behind the Hulk, next to Cable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_(comics)
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Puma

Wumpus, on the commentary track for "Legends," Bruce Timm said the kid was named for Roy Thomas and Don Thompson, who ran the Comics Buyer's Guide with his wife Maggie. (Don died but I think Maggie is still with CBG.)
Timm said one of the ideas of the episode was that if Roy Thomas had those kinds of mental powers and survived a nuclear war, that Golden Age/JSA world is the one he would create. I think Timm hit the nail right on the head but based only on reading articles he has written (I've never met the guy) I think Thomas is a little prickly and doesn't have the sense of humor about himself he thinks he does so I wonder what he made of the "tribute."

He acts like the character has made him millions of dollars or something.

What's so funny to me about the image guys is they were making millions at Marvel.

They were giving the authority to write the books like X-men, X-force and Spiderman. Marvel essentially let them write and draw whatever they wanted and paid them $80,000 + per MONTH!

They just didn't want to do the work. To me that sums up Image comics. They hid behind character ownership, but the reality was they had salaries, royalties and all the freedom in the world.... but Marvel had the nerve to ask that they turn in work on a regular basis!

Marvel kicked Louise Simonson off of New Mutants after five years and let Liefeld "write" it.

Marvel was soooo into Jim Lee they were starting to phase Claremont out of the X-men titles that he had written for 17 years.

MacFarlane didn't like taking scripts from Micheline so Marvel gave him his own book to write.

Those guys are lazy, pure and simple.

I'm sure rip off characters like Cougar are making liefeld tons of cash....LOL....what a joke.

Sorry about the rant, I just hate that guy Liefeld

or not

http://adlo.dreamers.com/estudios/comparativas.htm

Funny stuff...

...and your welcome for the Cougar thing, guys:)

Has there ever been a more successful commerical artist that couldn't draw basic anatomy?