Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed Extra: Randy Schueller's Brush With Comic History http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:37:53 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: David B. Jacobs http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-749431 David B. Jacobs Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:16:20 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-749431 Dude, how did you keep it in so long? If I were you, I'd have been boasting since the day I got the letter!!! Dude, how did you keep it in so long? If I were you, I'd have been boasting since the day I got the letter!!!

]]> By: a REAL fan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-489611 a REAL fan Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:01:53 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-489611 Spider-man 3 sucked. Spider-man 3 sucked.

]]> By: Dupe Hughes http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-115128 Dupe Hughes Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:22:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-115128 I am so proud of Randy. What a cool thing to do. I have 5 brothers who are into comics, so I am into comics also. I love Spidy. My nephews are great fans of Spider man. Way to go Randy! Dupe I am so proud of Randy. What a cool thing to do. I have 5 brothers who are into comics, so I am into comics also. I love Spidy. My nephews are great fans of Spider man.
Way to go Randy!
Dupe

]]> By: Al Bigley http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-99679 Al Bigley Sat, 26 May 2007 11:25:54 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-99679 Yes, the black-and-red Spidey outfit ran in a 1983 MARVEL AGE issue. Always dug that color scheme better than the white-and-black version. I also have tons of rejection letters from Marvel using that stationery from the 80s! Their envelopes and biz cards also had that Spidey art on them! Al Bigley Yes, the black-and-red Spidey outfit ran in a 1983 MARVEL AGE issue. Always dug that color scheme better than the white-and-black version.

I also have tons of rejection letters from Marvel using that stationery from the 80s! Their envelopes and biz cards also had that Spidey art on them!

Al Bigley

]]> By: Randy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-97288 Randy Tue, 22 May 2007 11:36:26 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-97288 Brian, I mentioned CBR in the Inside Edition story but it'll probably get cut too. Brian, I mentioned CBR in the Inside Edition story but it'll probably get cut too.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-97138 Brian Cronin Tue, 22 May 2007 05:52:34 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-97138 Yeah, the NY Post article was neat (with a photo, even!). Our mention got nipped, though. Blast you, Post editors!! :) Yeah, the NY Post article was neat (with a photo, even!).

Our mention got nipped, though. Blast you, Post editors!! :)

]]> By: Randy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-97130 Randy Tue, 22 May 2007 05:03:36 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-97130 Bill, thanks for the tip on the Gazette article. By the way, in case you guys haven't seen it, the New York Post picked up this story today. <a href='http://www.nypost.com/seven/05212007/news/nationalnews/spidey_steals_my_tights_nationalnews_reed_tucker.htm' rel="nofollow">NY York Post</a> Also, tomorrow (5/22) I'll be on Inside Edition telling the story! Thanks to folks at CBR for getting the word out on my brush with comic greatness! I owe you guys one! Bill, thanks for the tip on the Gazette article. By the way, in case you guys haven't seen it, the New York Post picked up this story today. NY York Post

Also, tomorrow (5/22) I'll be on Inside Edition telling the story!

Thanks to folks at CBR for getting the word out on my brush with comic greatness! I owe you guys one!

]]> By: Bill http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-96973 Bill Mon, 21 May 2007 20:31:52 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-96973 Randy - you might be interested in this link. Someone who no longer works for Marvel but was involved at the time says you were paid $500 (I guess memory fades) and that you should be compenstated even more. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07124/783249-254.stm Randy - you might be interested in this link. Someone who no longer works for Marvel but was involved at the time says you were paid $500 (I guess memory fades) and that you should be compenstated even more.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07124/783249-254.stm

]]> By: Randy http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-96815 Randy Mon, 21 May 2007 14:54:47 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-96815 Hey Rich, I did see that Comcast interview. I thought Frenz seemed like a great guy and I've always loved his art! If he's at all interested in discussing this, feel free to pass my email address on to him. It's ranlers@mac.com Thanks! Hey Rich,
I did see that Comcast interview. I thought Frenz seemed like a great guy and I've always loved his art! If he's at all interested in discussing this, feel free to pass my email address on to him. It's ranlers@mac.com

Thanks!

]]> By: Rich Yan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-96776 Rich Yan Mon, 21 May 2007 12:46:33 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-96776 Ron Frenz is a friend of mine and I was telling him about this. He says in the interviews he and Tom DeFalco did about the black costume leading up to the release of Spiderman 3, DeFalco credits a fan who's name has been forgotten with the creation of the black costume. (I think you can see those interviews on Comcast.com) Also apparently Jim Shooter has been saying said fan should be after Marvel for money. Ron Frenz is a friend of mine and I was telling him about this. He says in the interviews he and Tom DeFalco did about the black costume leading up to the release of Spiderman 3, DeFalco credits a fan who's name has been forgotten with the creation of the black costume. (I think you can see those interviews on Comcast.com) Also apparently Jim Shooter has been saying said fan should be after Marvel for money.

]]> By: John http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-95981 John Sat, 19 May 2007 06:29:35 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-95981 I don't think they're still using this design, but the back of DC's stationary used to have a stack of DC heroes standing atop of one another's shoulders. When you held the stationary up to the light, it looked like the hero at the top (Wonder Woman, I think) was holding up the DC Bullet printed on the front side. Very neat. I don't think they're still using this design, but the back of DC's stationary used to have a stack of DC heroes standing atop of one another's shoulders. When you held the stationary up to the light, it looked like the hero at the top (Wonder Woman, I think) was holding up the DC Bullet printed on the front side. Very neat.

]]> By: Anonymous http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-95884 Anonymous Sat, 19 May 2007 03:01:41 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-95884 maluco vai paputaquiparil cuzao viado puta maluco vai paputaquiparil cuzao viado puta

]]> By: J To The AAP http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-95189 J To The AAP Fri, 18 May 2007 07:52:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-95189 That might be the coolest stationary <i>ever</i>. Als, kudos to Randy, th ecostume still looks cool, even in b&w. That might be the coolest stationary ever.

Als, kudos to Randy, th ecostume still looks cool, even in b&w.

]]> By: Bill Reed http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-95099 Bill Reed Fri, 18 May 2007 04:29:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-95099 I totally think you're worthy enough to be recognized in the pages of comics history, Randy. I totally think you're worthy enough to be recognized in the pages of comics history, Randy.

]]> By: Bully http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94932 Bully Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:09 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94932 I do remember artwork of the black costume in <I>Marvel Age</I> that I believe used the black and red color scheme, although I don't have it on hand to double-check. I'm pretty sure this was <I>before</I> Secret Wars started. I do remember artwork of the black costume in Marvel Age that I believe used the black and red color scheme, although I don't have it on hand to double-check. I'm pretty sure this was before Secret Wars started.

]]> By: Paperghost http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94737 Paperghost Thu, 17 May 2007 17:26:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94737 "Hasbro’s had Mr. Potatohead! For some reason the bank always put a hold on them." Be thankful they didn't print Monopoly money on them! "Hasbro’s had Mr. Potatohead! For some reason the bank always put a hold on them."

Be thankful they didn't print Monopoly money on them!

]]> By: Rich Yan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94647 Rich Yan Thu, 17 May 2007 14:26:42 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94647 I did a little work for Marvel and their checks also has Spidey on them. Always raised an eyebrow at the bank. Hasbro's had Mr. Potatohead! For some reason the bank always put a hold on them. I did a little work for Marvel and their checks also has Spidey on them. Always raised an eyebrow at the bank. Hasbro's had Mr. Potatohead! For some reason the bank always put a hold on them.

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94604 John Seavey Thu, 17 May 2007 13:28:57 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94604 I hadn't heard the "designed by a fan" part, but I did see some original sketches for the black costume, and it was, as Randy mentioned, originally black and red instead of black and white. And I gotta say, it's a shame that printing technology didn't allow them to go with that, because it's actually a much better look than the black and white costume. I hadn't heard the "designed by a fan" part, but I did see some original sketches for the black costume, and it was, as Randy mentioned, originally black and red instead of black and white. And I gotta say, it's a shame that printing technology didn't allow them to go with that, because it's actually a much better look than the black and white costume.

]]> By: AnthonyF http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94577 AnthonyF Thu, 17 May 2007 12:53:59 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94577 I enjoyed the original Black Costume storyline in ASM and wasn't aware of "a fan's" involvement until the Comic Book Urban Legends article. Randy, Thanks for coming forward! I'd be neat to see your story as an extra on the Spider-man 3 DVD, or as a "What If". I enjoyed the original Black Costume storyline in ASM and wasn't aware of "a fan's" involvement until the Comic Book Urban Legends article.

Randy, Thanks for coming forward! I'd be neat to see your story as an extra on the Spider-man 3 DVD, or as a "What If".

]]> By: ThePerfessor http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/comment-page-1/#comment-94571 ThePerfessor Thu, 17 May 2007 12:47:14 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/16/randy-schuellers-brush-with-comic-history/#comment-94571 Just to add one more link in this story. Back in the ‘80s and early ‘90s I was working as a freelance journalist in the comics industry. The part of the story that I had heard about the black suit at the time was that Jim Shooter was pitching to whatever toy company had been making Marvel toys at the time, and was hoping to set up a new line of Secret Wars II toys. Only at the pitch meeting, the execs were not so much interested. Apparently, they felt that the toy line would simply be the same figures they had produced last time, and were about to pass. Shooter then told them that if they wanted to produce the new toys, they would have exclusive access to Spidey’s new costume. Well, the thought of a new Spider-Man costume truly excited these guys, and they agreed to the license. Whereupon, Shooter returned to Marvel and was reputed to have said, “Somebody needs to design a new costume for Spider-Man, because I’ve just sold it.” All of which is not to say that Randy Schueller’s story isn’t true, but perhaps the reason that they went with his idea for a new costume (or his design), was because of this meeting that Shooter just had. Just to add one more link in this story. Back in the ‘80s and early ‘90s I was working as a freelance journalist in the comics industry. The part of the story that I had heard about the black suit at the time was that Jim Shooter was pitching to whatever toy company had been making Marvel toys at the time, and was hoping to set up a new line of Secret Wars II toys. Only at the pitch meeting, the execs were not so much interested.

Apparently, they felt that the toy line would simply be the same figures they had produced last time, and were about to pass. Shooter then told them that if they wanted to produce the new toys, they would have exclusive access to Spidey’s new costume. Well, the thought of a new Spider-Man costume truly excited these guys, and they agreed to the license. Whereupon, Shooter returned to Marvel and was reputed to have said, “Somebody needs to design a new costume for Spider-Man, because I’ve just sold it.”

All of which is not to say that Randy Schueller’s story isn’t true, but perhaps the reason that they went with his idea for a new costume (or his design), was because of this meeting that Shooter just had.

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