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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-102221</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Loren! Thanks for putting the effort into actually finding an example. I knew there were some, but I was too lazy to find them. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Loren! Thanks for putting the effort into actually finding an example. I knew there were some, but I was too lazy to find them. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Loren</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-102202</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do not believe there would be any untenable precedent set at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know if there are other examples, but over on the CSBG board I pointed out that DC changed the cover to Adventures of Superman #629 after its solicitation (featuring bathroom voyeur Superman) caused a bit of controversy.

And that didn&#039;t set a bad precedent.  In fact, the change barely got noticed.  DC didn&#039;t slide into changing lots of covers because of every little complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do not believe there would be any untenable precedent set at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't know if there are other examples, but over on the CSBG board I pointed out that DC changed the cover to Adventures of Superman #629 after its solicitation (featuring bathroom voyeur Superman) caused a bit of controversy.</p>
<p>And that didn't set a bad precedent.  In fact, the change barely got noticed.  DC didn't slide into changing lots of covers because of every little complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-101950</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you can&#039;t judge a book by its cover, even if it does make for an entertaining couple of posts every month.

Whether or not the comic is any good, though, is irrelevant. I just don&#039;t like the idea of the blogosphere taking offence at something and then assuming the cover should be changed because we don&#039;t like it, when we make up such a small sample of the audience (hell, most of us DON&#039;T make up part of the Heroes for Hire audience). Seems uncool to let the moral minority choose for the majority and all that, even if those people have the best interests of the industry at heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you can't judge a book by its cover, even if it does make for an entertaining couple of posts every month.</p>
<p>Whether or not the comic is any good, though, is irrelevant. I just don't like the idea of the blogosphere taking offence at something and then assuming the cover should be changed because we don't like it, when we make up such a small sample of the audience (hell, most of us DON'T make up part of the Heroes for Hire audience). Seems uncool to let the moral minority choose for the majority and all that, even if those people have the best interests of the industry at heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hickey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-101910</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it seems fairly simple.
Marvel have the *right* to publish anything they want, no matter how degrading to anyone - right? They could publish Klan propaganda, bestial porn, whatever, and they would be within their rights to do so.
Marvel also, however, are a company, not an individual. Their primary purpose is to make money. If that cover were to lose them one more sale than it would gain them, then they would be within their rights - in fact it would be their duty to their shareholders - to replace the cover with one that would sell more. So it wouldn&#039;t be any kind of censorship - self- or other - but a recognition of the realities of the marketplace.
Now I would argue that, even if this cover gains sales of this issue, it, and covers like it, are going to lose sales overall, for Marvel *and* their competitors. Things like this put off many women from even entering a comic shop. Pandering to an audience of horny adolescents too scared to buy real pornography (let alone meet a real woman) at the expense of 50% of the population seems to me to be a losing proposition.
I want comic shops to be places where *everyone* feels welcome, so more people will buy comics, so fewer comic shops and companies will close, so I can still get the comics *I* want to read. I think that covers like this are very, very likely to be counterproductive in that respect.

Plus, the name of this blog is &#039;Comics Should Be Good&#039;. Does that look like the cover of a good comic to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it seems fairly simple.<br />
Marvel have the *right* to publish anything they want, no matter how degrading to anyone - right? They could publish Klan propaganda, bestial porn, whatever, and they would be within their rights to do so.<br />
Marvel also, however, are a company, not an individual. Their primary purpose is to make money. If that cover were to lose them one more sale than it would gain them, then they would be within their rights - in fact it would be their duty to their shareholders - to replace the cover with one that would sell more. So it wouldn't be any kind of censorship - self- or other - but a recognition of the realities of the marketplace.<br />
Now I would argue that, even if this cover gains sales of this issue, it, and covers like it, are going to lose sales overall, for Marvel *and* their competitors. Things like this put off many women from even entering a comic shop. Pandering to an audience of horny adolescents too scared to buy real pornography (let alone meet a real woman) at the expense of 50% of the population seems to me to be a losing proposition.<br />
I want comic shops to be places where *everyone* feels welcome, so more people will buy comics, so fewer comic shops and companies will close, so I can still get the comics *I* want to read. I think that covers like this are very, very likely to be counterproductive in that respect.</p>
<p>Plus, the name of this blog is 'Comics Should Be Good'. Does that look like the cover of a good comic to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-101868</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 09:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If Marvel pulled this cover they would indeed get on a slippery slope for reasons already explained in these comments. &lt;/blockquote&gt; I completely disagree.

I do not believe there would be any untenable precedent set at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Marvel pulled this cover they would indeed get on a slippery slope for reasons already explained in these comments. </p></blockquote>
<p> I completely disagree.</p>
<p>I do not believe there would be any untenable precedent set at all.</p>
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		<title>By: J To The AAP</title>
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		<dc:creator>J To The AAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 07:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marvel pulled this cover they would indeed get on a slippery slope for reasons already explained in these comments. If you don&#039;t like the cover or even feel offended by it a boycot actually isn&#039;t a bad idea, a dip in sales would make a far stronger statement then &#039;public outcry&#039; on the web.

But I don&#039;t think any of the people feeling offended by this were buying Heroes for Hire in the first place so it probably wouldn&#039;t make much of a dent. Basically, it&#039;s a shitty comic with a shitty cover, but nobody&#039;s twisting your arm or forcing you to like it. Just don&#039;t buy it if you don&#039;t like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marvel pulled this cover they would indeed get on a slippery slope for reasons already explained in these comments. If you don't like the cover or even feel offended by it a boycot actually isn't a bad idea, a dip in sales would make a far stronger statement then 'public outcry' on the web.</p>
<p>But I don't think any of the people feeling offended by this were buying Heroes for Hire in the first place so it probably wouldn't make much of a dent. Basically, it's a shitty comic with a shitty cover, but nobody's twisting your arm or forcing you to like it. Just don't buy it if you don't like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-101704</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 00:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynxara, did you actually read the comments in which the word &#039;censorship&#039; was used, or did you just see the word by itself and decide to go on your rant? Through this entire discussion, nobody had made any of this personal, and then you come in with your whole &quot;reflects very poorly on the intelligence&quot; spiel. Debate my point, not my intelligence, which isn&#039;t in question, thanks very much.

Self-censorship was only brought up to illustrate how changing the cover may be considered a form of censorship- as in a lesser form of the type practiced during the time of the Comics Code, when writers and artists would censor themselves for fear of the Code, and I&#039;d love to see you tell those folks that it&#039;s not a word.

It wasn&#039;t a &quot;OH MY GOD THIS IS CENSORSHIP WE&#039;RE ALL DOOMED!&quot; thing, and there was no &quot;outcry&quot; whatsoever. Like T. said, the outcry/overreaction is coming from the people who were offended by the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynxara, did you actually read the comments in which the word 'censorship' was used, or did you just see the word by itself and decide to go on your rant? Through this entire discussion, nobody had made any of this personal, and then you come in with your whole "reflects very poorly on the intelligence" spiel. Debate my point, not my intelligence, which isn't in question, thanks very much.</p>
<p>Self-censorship was only brought up to illustrate how changing the cover may be considered a form of censorship- as in a lesser form of the type practiced during the time of the Comics Code, when writers and artists would censor themselves for fear of the Code, and I'd love to see you tell those folks that it's not a word.</p>
<p>It wasn't a "OH MY GOD THIS IS CENSORSHIP WE'RE ALL DOOMED!" thing, and there was no "outcry" whatsoever. Like T. said, the outcry/overreaction is coming from the people who were offended by the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-2/#comment-101658</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Godwinâ€™s Law was instated to make people stop bringing up the Nazis in shallow and ridiculous situations, by humiliating them with how ludicrous their own overreacting was. We need a similar internet law to stop fans from pissing themselves over any possibility of something not being released or published as â€œcensorshipâ€, because seeing a serious term misused in this way is vile. Boiled Angel was a case of censorship in comics; this is just a case of Marvel being disgustingly disingenuous and skeevy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone could also argue that the offended people are actually overreacting more than the people complaining about censorship.  Search the blogosphere and Newsarama and tell me who is more vocal and livid, the &quot;This sets womankind back 100 years&quot; crowd or the &quot;this is censorship&quot; crowd.  For the people who started the controversy to begin with to now accuse dissenters of overreaction is rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Godwinâ€™s Law was instated to make people stop bringing up the Nazis in shallow and ridiculous situations, by humiliating them with how ludicrous their own overreacting was. We need a similar internet law to stop fans from pissing themselves over any possibility of something not being released or published as â€œcensorshipâ€, because seeing a serious term misused in this way is vile. Boiled Angel was a case of censorship in comics; this is just a case of Marvel being disgustingly disingenuous and skeevy. </p></blockquote>
<p>Someone could also argue that the offended people are actually overreacting more than the people complaining about censorship.  Search the blogosphere and Newsarama and tell me who is more vocal and livid, the "This sets womankind back 100 years" crowd or the "this is censorship" crowd.  For the people who started the controversy to begin with to now accuse dissenters of overreaction is rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-101589</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I canâ€™t believe people are honestly making the argument that if Marvel changes the cover itâ€™ll â€œemboldenâ€ the feminists to DESTROY ALL FUN.

WE HAVE TO DEFEND THIS ONE SHITTY COVER TO THE DEATH OR ELSE ALL BREASTS WILL BE OUTLAWED BY THE LEFTIES AND ALTERNATIVE COMIC PUBLISHERS! Iâ€™M ONLY MASTURBATING TO BLACK CAT AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT! HURGBURGLBURGHURGL! &lt;/blockquote&gt; While I agree with the basic intent of your comment (in that I don&#039;t think it really would be a big deal if Marvel changed covers), I don&#039;t think it is nice to paint the people who disagree with the assertion as folks who masturbate to pictures of Black Cat.

That&#039;s basically the mirror image of &quot;you guys are a pitchfork mob.&quot;

Doesn&#039;t really help to insult the people you&#039;re disagreeing with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I canâ€™t believe people are honestly making the argument that if Marvel changes the cover itâ€™ll â€œemboldenâ€ the feminists to DESTROY ALL FUN.</p>
<p>WE HAVE TO DEFEND THIS ONE SHITTY COVER TO THE DEATH OR ELSE ALL BREASTS WILL BE OUTLAWED BY THE LEFTIES AND ALTERNATIVE COMIC PUBLISHERS! Iâ€™M ONLY MASTURBATING TO BLACK CAT AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT! HURGBURGLBURGHURGL! </p></blockquote>
<p> While I agree with the basic intent of your comment (in that I don't think it really would be a big deal if Marvel changed covers), I don't think it is nice to paint the people who disagree with the assertion as folks who masturbate to pictures of Black Cat.</p>
<p>That's basically the mirror image of "you guys are a pitchfork mob."</p>
<p>Doesn't really help to insult the people you're disagreeing with.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynxara</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-101566</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynxara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To show up late and play devil&#039;s advocate: &quot;self-censorship&quot; is not a word, because it is not a sensible concept. The definition of censorship requires that a governing body force a creator or company to alter their output. If Congress showed up and told Marvel to change the cover or face legal consequences, that would be censorship, and it would be wrong. 

Perhaps, at best, &quot;self-censorship&quot; could be practed by a government relative to itself.Marvel cannot practice self-censorship because it is  not a legal governing body. It may, at best, make a decision that weighs the pros and cons of publishing the cover versus changing the cover. It&#039;s obvious that Marvel does not intend to change the cover, so I don&#039;t understand the outcry over supposed &quot;self-censorship&quot;.

Real censorship is a serious problem because it promises terrible legal consequences for people who speak out. Serious not in the sense of &quot;oh noes, no more naked boobs&quot;, but in the sense of losing one&#039;s life, freedom, or livelihood. To use the term &quot;censorship&quot; so cheaply in this debate is extremely shameful, and disrespectful to anyone who ever had to suffer the burden of real censorship. It reflects very poorly on the intelligence, taste, and sensibility of those who use it so loosely and disrespectfully. 

Godwin&#039;s Law was instated to make people stop bringing up the Nazis in shallow and ridiculous situations, by humiliating them with how ludicrous their own overreacting was. We need a similar internet law to stop fans from pissing themselves over any possibility of something not being released or published as &quot;censorship&quot;, because seeing a serious term misused in this way is vile. Boiled Angel was a case of censorship in comics; this is just a case of Marvel being disgustingly disingenuous and skeevy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To show up late and play devil's advocate: "self-censorship" is not a word, because it is not a sensible concept. The definition of censorship requires that a governing body force a creator or company to alter their output. If Congress showed up and told Marvel to change the cover or face legal consequences, that would be censorship, and it would be wrong. </p>
<p>Perhaps, at best, "self-censorship" could be practed by a government relative to itself.Marvel cannot practice self-censorship because it is  not a legal governing body. It may, at best, make a decision that weighs the pros and cons of publishing the cover versus changing the cover. It's obvious that Marvel does not intend to change the cover, so I don't understand the outcry over supposed "self-censorship".</p>
<p>Real censorship is a serious problem because it promises terrible legal consequences for people who speak out. Serious not in the sense of "oh noes, no more naked boobs", but in the sense of losing one's life, freedom, or livelihood. To use the term "censorship" so cheaply in this debate is extremely shameful, and disrespectful to anyone who ever had to suffer the burden of real censorship. It reflects very poorly on the intelligence, taste, and sensibility of those who use it so loosely and disrespectfully. </p>
<p>Godwin's Law was instated to make people stop bringing up the Nazis in shallow and ridiculous situations, by humiliating them with how ludicrous their own overreacting was. We need a similar internet law to stop fans from pissing themselves over any possibility of something not being released or published as "censorship", because seeing a serious term misused in this way is vile. Boiled Angel was a case of censorship in comics; this is just a case of Marvel being disgustingly disingenuous and skeevy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-101498</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, Sgt Pepper. And as far as the all-ages thing goes, I still think that&#039;s a good point, Mike, but if a kid recognises this as &#039;tentacle porn&#039;, it&#039;s probably too late for them anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, Sgt Pepper. And as far as the all-ages thing goes, I still think that's a good point, Mike, but if a kid recognises this as 'tentacle porn', it's probably too late for them anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-101488</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian said:
&quot;Like I said to Rohan, Andrew, itâ€™s simply a matter of poor timing. The Heroes for Hire cover just happened to follow the Mary Jane statue very closely, time-wise.&quot;

I don&#039;t disagree with you there, it does seem to be coming out at just the right time to pick up where the MJ controversy left off. I guess I&#039;m just suffering from &quot;controversy burnout.&quot; It seems to take one thing, no matter how slight, to set someone off and that always snowballs into something bigger than it needs to be. (This applies to life outside of comics these days too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian said:<br />
"Like I said to Rohan, Andrew, itâ€™s simply a matter of poor timing. The Heroes for Hire cover just happened to follow the Mary Jane statue very closely, time-wise."</p>
<p>I don't disagree with you there, it does seem to be coming out at just the right time to pick up where the MJ controversy left off. I guess I'm just suffering from "controversy burnout." It seems to take one thing, no matter how slight, to set someone off and that always snowballs into something bigger than it needs to be. (This applies to life outside of comics these days too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paperghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paperghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact that black cat was revealed to have been raped in that kevin smith story adds at least 10 &quot;oh dear&quot; points to this cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact that black cat was revealed to have been raped in that kevin smith story adds at least 10 "oh dear" points to this cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McGee</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/05/27/528-curious-cat-asks/comment-page-1/#comment-101483</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were it not for the age appropriate label, the complaints might still be there -- that&#039;s called criticism, and it&#039;s actually okay -- but I doubt the calls to pull the cover would be. I think it&#039;s less a suggestion that the cover is inappropriate period, for anyone, ever, than it is that the cover is inappropriate for this particular book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were it not for the age appropriate label, the complaints might still be there -- that's called criticism, and it's actually okay -- but I doubt the calls to pull the cover would be. I think it's less a suggestion that the cover is inappropriate period, for anyone, ever, than it is that the cover is inappropriate for this particular book.</p>
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		<title>By: joffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe people are honestly making the argument that if Marvel changes the cover it&#039;ll &quot;embolden&quot; the feminists to DESTROY ALL FUN.

WE HAVE TO DEFEND THIS ONE SHITTY COVER TO THE DEATH OR ELSE ALL BREASTS WILL BE OUTLAWED BY THE LEFTIES AND ALTERNATIVE COMIC PUBLISHERS! I&#039;M ONLY MASTURBATING TO BLACK CAT AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT! HURGBURGLBURGHURGL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't believe people are honestly making the argument that if Marvel changes the cover it'll "embolden" the feminists to DESTROY ALL FUN.</p>
<p>WE HAVE TO DEFEND THIS ONE SHITTY COVER TO THE DEATH OR ELSE ALL BREASTS WILL BE OUTLAWED BY THE LEFTIES AND ALTERNATIVE COMIC PUBLISHERS! I'M ONLY MASTURBATING TO BLACK CAT AS A POLITICAL STATEMENT! HURGBURGLBURGHURGL!</p>
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		<title>By: sgt pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the only complaint I&#039;d read about were the age-appropriate issue, then I&#039;d agree with you.  However, that&#039;s not the only complaint I&#039;m reading (and definitely not the main one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the only complaint I'd read about were the age-appropriate issue, then I'd agree with you.  However, that's not the only complaint I'm reading (and definitely not the main one).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again -- not the same argument. The biggest excesses of Morrison, Ennis, Powell, et al, take place under mature readers banners. To be honest, if a group of concerned mothers DID get upset about the cover of this book, they would be well within their rights to do so -- because Marvel has explicitly promised that the book is safe for their kids to read. There is a huge gulf of difference between expressing a concern over a book that is supposed to appropriate for kids and isn&#039;t, and a book that promises to be appropriate for nobody, and is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again -- not the same argument. The biggest excesses of Morrison, Ennis, Powell, et al, take place under mature readers banners. To be honest, if a group of concerned mothers DID get upset about the cover of this book, they would be well within their rights to do so -- because Marvel has explicitly promised that the book is safe for their kids to read. There is a huge gulf of difference between expressing a concern over a book that is supposed to appropriate for kids and isn't, and a book that promises to be appropriate for nobody, and is.</p>
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		<title>By: sgt pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, what I see on the blogosphere (not the complaining, but the apparent letter writing campaigns to Marvel) doesn&#039;t seem too much different from a group of concerned mothers who want to protect the children.  If such a group of mothers started such a campaign and alerted the media to the drug content of some of Morrison&#039;s work, or the bizarre outrageousness of all of Ennis&#039;s or Powell&#039;s work, and started calling for the compaines to change the content of those books, we&#039;d all be going apeshit and defending comic book companies&#039; rights to keep on putting bizarre and arguably tasteless stuff out there.  It&#039;s not for everyone, but some of us freaks like Morrison and Ennis and Powell.

If some people like cartoon super-hero almost porn, then who are we to say that they can&#039;t (or shouldn&#039;t) have it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, what I see on the blogosphere (not the complaining, but the apparent letter writing campaigns to Marvel) doesn't seem too much different from a group of concerned mothers who want to protect the children.  If such a group of mothers started such a campaign and alerted the media to the drug content of some of Morrison's work, or the bizarre outrageousness of all of Ennis's or Powell's work, and started calling for the compaines to change the content of those books, we'd all be going apeshit and defending comic book companies' rights to keep on putting bizarre and arguably tasteless stuff out there.  It's not for everyone, but some of us freaks like Morrison and Ennis and Powell.</p>
<p>If some people like cartoon super-hero almost porn, then who are we to say that they can't (or shouldn't) have it?</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyGreenJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyGreenJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That Marvel is willing to defend the cover, or at least not condemn it as poor judgment, makes me wonder how seriously they take their own ratings.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They don&#039;t.
When it launched, around the same time as their own ratings system did, the Ultimate line was meant to be all ages, and was rated as such.
By issue five of Ultimate X-Men, people were being called bastards, we saw a post-coital couple duck under the covers for some more, and then one memeber of that couple threaten to stick a candlestick up the other one&#039;s arse, as well as lots of violence.
All fine for teen readers, no argument, butt not exactly all ages.
Marvel&#039;s rating system has nothing to do with the content of the book, just how they want to rate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That Marvel is willing to defend the cover, or at least not condemn it as poor judgment, makes me wonder how seriously they take their own ratings.</p></blockquote>
<p>They don't.<br />
When it launched, around the same time as their own ratings system did, the Ultimate line was meant to be all ages, and was rated as such.<br />
By issue five of Ultimate X-Men, people were being called bastards, we saw a post-coital couple duck under the covers for some more, and then one memeber of that couple threaten to stick a candlestick up the other one's arse, as well as lots of violence.<br />
All fine for teen readers, no argument, butt not exactly all ages.<br />
Marvel's rating system has nothing to do with the content of the book, just how they want to rate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 06:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said to Rohan, Andrew, it&#039;s simply a matter of poor timing. The Heroes for Hire cover just happened to follow the Mary Jane statue very closely, time-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said to Rohan, Andrew, it's simply a matter of poor timing. The Heroes for Hire cover just happened to follow the Mary Jane statue very closely, time-wise.</p>
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