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Snark Free Corner for 5/28

Welcome to the latest installment of your breath of snark free air!

Special Memorial Day edition!!

Enjoy!

COOL COMIC THING

Normally, war breaks families apart, but in one case, it brought a family together.

I am, of course, talking about the Kuberts, and Sgt. Rock #394.

Father Joe Kubert for years was not only one of the best WAR artists in the comic book industry, but just flat out one of the best artists in the comic book industry PERIOD.

In this 1984 issue of the comic Kubert is probably most associated with, Sgt. Rock, there were, for the first time in comic history, three Kuberts all in one book.

The issue was edited by Joe, and he supplied the following strong cover.

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The main story was by Robert Kanigher (duh!) and drawn by Adrian Gonzales.

The second story, however, was drawn AND scripted by Adam Kubert, just shy of his 25th birthday!

The last story was written and inked by Ron Wagner, and pencilled by Andy Kubert.

After that issue, both Kuberts began to get work (in various capacities) for the next couple of years until the early 90s, when both brothers became two of Marvel's most popular artists (and when the Image migration occurred, they may very well have been Marvel's two MOST popular artists!).

Cool, huh?

COVER THEME GAME

As always, here is the game. I show three covers. They all have something in common, whether it be a character, a trait all three characters share, locale, creator, SOMEthing. And it isn't something obvious like "They all have prices!" "They all have logos!" "They all feature a man!" etc.

In addition, please note that you must have some familiarity with comic book history to correctly guess these comics. You cannot guess the connective theme just by looking at the covers solely, you must have some knowledge beyond just the covers.

Good luck! A cool point to the first person to figure it out!

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SNARK FREE CHALLENGE

In a street fight set in 1944, who wins - Sgt. Rock or Sgt. Fury?

THE COVER GAME

This week's game is as follows...

Name me a cover (and remember, only one cover per commenter) like the following cover (and NOT COUNTING the following cover) that actually features Easy Company member Jackie Johnson.

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Good luck!

WHO IS IT?

Remember, tell me who it is and what number clue gave it away!

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3. This characters's last name could be defined as meaning "a hard substance composed of mineral that can consist in particulate form or in large form."
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5. This character took over in Our Fighting Forces from the characters Gunner and Sarge (and Pooch).

Who is it?

Well, that's it for this installment of Snark Free Corner.

Hope you had fun!

Happy Memorial Day! And thank you to all the troops out there!

  • Posted on May 28, 2007 @ 08:37 PM

23 Comments

Sgt. Rock wins the street fight. He would just keep pounding until there was nothing left to pound.

Rock beats Fury. Fury didn't become a cool badass until he was a spy in the 60's. Rock's *origin story* involves beating the snot out of Nazis with his fists. And he only got tougher from there.

Oh, and very clever "Who is it?" I got it with #4, but only because I was researching today's Reason! Don't want to spoil the game for anyone, though. I mean, I "work" here, and everything.

Okay, I'm going out on the proverbial limb here, but on the cover challenge, is it because Cobra is the featured enemy?

As for who would win between Rock and Fury... I gotta go with Rock. He's stronger and has better peripheral vision.

Got the "Who is it" with #3 for sure, but suspected it given the apparent theme. ;)

Then guess it, Mason! :) Always fun to be the first one to get it right!

Here's a fun fact about GI Joe. This may be common knowledge, but I was never much into the show in my younger days, but here goes.

Destro was never a member of Cobra. He was an international arms dealer who just happened to hang out with Cobra. Plus, he totally had a thing with the Baroness. I mean, how cool is Destro, right?

The obvious answer to "who is it?" is Sgt. Rock, but that's too obvious. And I haven't read any war comics (well, except for some current ones, like The Other Side and DMZ and Pride of Baghdad) so I don't know any of the characters Rock served with. But I'm guessing one of them had to have a mineral-like last name.

hmmm. Sgt. Rock beats Fury? What if Fury used a rolled up newspaper? Doesn't paper beat Rock?

hmmm. Sgt. Rock beats Fury? What if Fury used a rolled up newspaper? Doesn’t paper beat Rock?

Well done.

cover theme game:

all 3 covers are about gi joe insertion into enemy territory. though i would say that bolivia (or whatever the country was called in #61)was not exactly enemy territory, but it was quote a war zone for the joes.

next guess, and i say guess is that a carnival/circus plays a big part of the story in each episode.

and what does it say about me that i know more about gi joe stories than superhero lore....

Andrew Collins

May 28, 2007 at 10:16 pm

I only recently got back into G.I. Joe via the Devil's Due series, but I think the theme above is that all 3 covers feature DEAD Joe's- Quick Kick, Doc, and Sneak Peek.

I only recently got back into G.I. Joe via the Devil’s Due series, but I think the theme above is that all 3 covers feature DEAD Joe’s- Quick Kick, Doc, and Sneak Peek.

Close enough, Andrew!

Specifically, they all feature Joes killed in the same issue (#109), the infamous "Let's kill a bunch of Joes because, hey, it's the 90s and soldiers die, right?" issue where seven Joes (who were being held as prisoners) were mercilessly killed off, including Doc, Quick Kick and Lt. Falcon.

Cover game:

Sgt. Rock Special #6:
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=47088&zoom=4

Ironically, a reprint of the very same story. Johnson gets no respect!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

Oh, and Nick Fury is cool, but on a street fight Rock ALWAYS wins!

Howevr, he wouldn't beat up Fury, since he would never hurt a brother in arms. Just a couple of punches to sober Fury up.

On the other hand, it they were fighting on the field, with guns and tactics, Fury, a Special Forces soldier, would have the upper hand.

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

I actually come to the opposite conclusion as Hunter. In a street fight, Fury wins. For one thing, I believe Fury actually grew up "on the streets," getting into street fights and such, didn't he? Plus, Rock's attitude would be "Knock it off, war's over!"

I've always seen Fury as the kind of guy who "needs" to fight, and would (and did) seek out opportunities to keep shootin' bad guys. Rock, if he survived the war, would just go back to civilian life and be one of those guys who never talks about what he did in the war.

"Close enough, Andrew!

Specifically, they all feature Joes killed in the same issue (#109), the infamous “Let’s kill a bunch of Joes because, hey, it’s the 90s and soldiers die, right?” issue where seven Joes (who were being held as prisoners) were mercilessly killed off, including Doc, Quick Kick and Lt. Falcon."

I don't think that's correct. I'm 99% sure Lt. Falcon survives that. Sneak-peak died, but in issue 113.

My thought is that Fury wins. Because the only way these two guys would be fighting was if Rock was out of his mind with anger/grief, and Fury was trying to put him down to keep him from doing something he'd regret later. Which gives Fury the upper hand, because he'd have a cool head and be able to use his wits. It'd be a heckuva fight, though, because Rock ain't the type of guy to go down easy...I see it as the sort of thing that'd last a while, before Fury finally hit Rock with enough haymakers that his legs folded up. And when Rock wakes up, he's actually grateful that Fury did what needed to be done.

Andrew Collins

May 29, 2007 at 9:43 am

Brian & Mike said:
"“Close enough, Andrew!

Specifically, they all feature Joes killed in the same issue (#109), the infamous “Let’s kill a bunch of Joes because, hey, it’s the 90s and soldiers die, right?” issue where seven Joes (who were being held as prisoners) were mercilessly killed off, including Doc, Quick Kick and Lt. Falcon.”

I don’t think that’s correct. I’m 99% sure Lt. Falcon survives that. Sneak-peak died, but in issue 113."

I stopped reading the Marvel series sometime around issue #75, so I missed out on the whole mass slaughter storyline. I remember the hype it received at the time though. Is Falcon dead? I noticed he hasn't been mentioned in the DD series at all (at least not that I can remember). If he is alive, it's odd he wouldn't be by his brother Flint after Lady Jaye's death.

they killed quick kick!?!?

where's an interrobang when you need one?

seriously, and doc too?

wtf?

i gave up on the title after issue 79 or 80 so i was not privy to this travesty, but i am morbidly curious to read issue 109. is it a multipart story or just a one and done issue?

Joshua Cochran

May 29, 2007 at 2:17 pm

Fury wins vs. Rock. He lost his eye when he caught a freakin' potato masher thrown at him, then tossing it back at the Nazi scum (and proceeded to catch the blast anyway when it detonated early), which suggests a lot of stones and, more importantly in a street fight, quick reflexes. True, Fury's cooler as a super-spy than a soldier, but this is the guy that thinks he can tell guys like Wolverine and the Thing what to do. He's crazy. I think those give him the edge.
Plus, in '44, did Fury still HAVE his eye?

Quick Kick and Doc died, I believe, because they had to have SOME popular characters die if people were going to pay attention to their mass slaughter.

Doc was the roughest, as, well, the dude was a freakin' MEDIC!

#109 is part two of a two-part story, but it all ties together to the longest (and bloodiest) battle in Joe history, which took place from, like, #106-114.

And yeah, I was wrong about Falcon. Luckily, Sneak Peek was on the same cover, so "Dead Joes" still fits. :)

The Joes who were killed in #109 were:

Doc, Crankcase, Heavymetal, Thunder, Breaker, Crazylegs and Quick Kick

Rock vs. Fury..

Nah. Can't call it. Rock is slightly tougher, but he also functions in a more realistic world. Fury's more of a cartoon character, with all the inherent advantages that grants.

Now I want to see Fury pull out a giant anvil from his back pocket in a fight!

I don't like to look these things up, but this appears to be dying out without anybody identifying the "who is it?" out loud, so I did a little research, lest it drive me crazy. It looks like the answer is Sgt. Rock's little brother: "Larry Rock, the Fighting Devil Dog".

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