Comments on: Archie Comics – The Good, The Weird and the Ugly http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:54:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Anthony Strand http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-124035 Anthony Strand Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:14:03 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-124035 Speaking as a Midwesterner (North Dakota), I can say that a lot of kids around here still go to summer camp. I never did, but a lot of my friends went every year. Speaking as a Midwesterner (North Dakota), I can say that a lot of kids around here still go to summer camp. I never did, but a lot of my friends went every year.

]]> By: Bret http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123719 Bret Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:34:44 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123719 Archie looks like Jimmy Olson. Is Archie the Jimmy Olson of earth whatever number Archie world is? And is Reggie its Superman? Archie looks like Jimmy Olson.

Is Archie the Jimmy Olson of earth whatever number Archie world is?

And is Reggie its Superman?

]]> By: km http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123472 km Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:26:08 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123472 <blockquote>This story does not have to be awful.</blockquote> Oh, I agree the execution could've been improved some (the chicken-clucking thing is henious) but the basic outlines are entirely typical of the genre. Sadly, yes, the traditional story does involve the smitten girl acting like a complete moron right up until the 'bad boy' does something either illegal or life-threatening.

This story does not have to be awful.

Oh, I agree the execution could’ve been improved some (the chicken-clucking thing is henious) but the basic outlines are entirely typical of the genre. Sadly, yes, the traditional story does involve the smitten girl acting like a complete moron right up until the ‘bad boy’ does something either illegal or life-threatening.

]]> By: Bill Reed http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123426 Bill Reed Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:34:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123426 This is why I love this blog. Screw Countdown and World War Hulk and all that-- we've got Archie Comics to review! Keep being awesome, Mr. Cronin. This is why I love this blog. Screw Countdown and World War Hulk and all that– we’ve got Archie Comics to review!

Keep being awesome, Mr. Cronin.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123400 Brian Cronin Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:03:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123400 But PLENTY of Archie's group of writers could tell this story well. Dan Parent, Kathleen Webb, Barbara Slate, Craig Boldman. This story does not have to be awful. But PLENTY of Archie’s group of writers could tell this story well.

Dan Parent, Kathleen Webb, Barbara Slate, Craig Boldman.

This story does not have to be awful.

]]> By: km http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123391 km Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:47:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123391 If anyone's interested in the new-look Riverdale gang (except, weirdly enough, Mr.Weatherbee) here are samples from scans_daily: http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3644990.html I agree that the guys turned out well, or at least more imaginatively, than the girls. The only big flaw in the Archie redesign is that - as the SD gang points out - in Riverdale 'freckles' apparently = 'nasty skin condition'. As for the story...yes, well, don't want to say I told you so, but...:) Seriously, the Archie comics just don't do the kind of wha-oh! whacky! cutting-edge innovation changing that story up would require. If anyone’s interested in the new-look Riverdale gang (except, weirdly enough, Mr.Weatherbee) here are samples from scans_daily:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3644990.html

I agree that the guys turned out well, or at least more imaginatively, than the girls. The only big flaw in the Archie redesign is that – as the SD gang points out – in Riverdale ‘freckles’ apparently = ‘nasty skin condition’.

As for the story…yes, well, don’t want to say I told you so, but…:) Seriously, the Archie comics just don’t do the kind of wha-oh! whacky! cutting-edge innovation changing that story up would require.

]]> By: Tom Russell http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123368 Tom Russell Sun, 01 Jul 2007 17:16:08 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123368 One problem with the token minority characters in the Archie stories is that they remain just that. They have no real strong, distinguishing personalities-- not even archetypical ones. They're all just "nice" people who fit in and have an eccentric hobby. The creators are afraid to give them any kind of negative personality traits, for fear of reproach. The strongest characters in Riverdale are those that have negative personality traits-- Reggie is an egotist and a jerk, Moose is a big dumb jock. If Raj Patel had a Reggie-style personality, it would make a lot of people angry, i.e.: "why is the Indian guy the villain?" If Jughead Jones was black instead of white, there would be so much flak-- really, Jughead is a white Steppen Fetchit: lazy, shiftless, always eating. And let's be thankful Dilton isn't the Asian kid! I'm not saying that I want to see a black character with those kind of personality traits-- but that in trying to be "diverse" and "with-it" without offending anyone, the end result is bland characterizations-- just another token minority character, which is, in its own way, just as offensive. One problem with the token minority characters in the Archie stories is that they remain just that. They have no real strong, distinguishing personalities– not even archetypical ones. They’re all just “nice” people who fit in and have an eccentric hobby. The creators are afraid to give them any kind of negative personality traits, for fear of reproach.

The strongest characters in Riverdale are those that have negative personality traits– Reggie is an egotist and a jerk, Moose is a big dumb jock. If Raj Patel had a Reggie-style personality, it would make a lot of people angry, i.e.: “why is the Indian guy the villain?”

If Jughead Jones was black instead of white, there would be so much flak– really, Jughead is a white Steppen Fetchit: lazy, shiftless, always eating. And let’s be thankful Dilton isn’t the Asian kid!

I’m not saying that I want to see a black character with those kind of personality traits– but that in trying to be “diverse” and “with-it” without offending anyone, the end result is bland characterizations– just another token minority character, which is, in its own way, just as offensive.

]]> By: Michael http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123352 Michael Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:43:41 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123352 Yeah, I was gonna say, "The Indian kid is into filmmaking? Does he do inappropriate production numbers?" Also, do kids really still go to summer camp? I thought that was one of those things that fell out of vogue that's still perpetrated by "family" entertainment produced by out-of-touch Boomers. Yeah, I was gonna say, “The Indian kid is into filmmaking? Does he do inappropriate production numbers?”

Also, do kids really still go to summer camp? I thought that was one of those things that fell out of vogue that’s still perpetrated by “family” entertainment produced by out-of-touch Boomers.

]]> By: Aaron Kashtan http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-123343 Aaron Kashtan Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:25:30 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/01/archie-comics-the-good-the-weird-and-the-ugly/#comment-123343 So his parents are a doctor and a scientist, and his hobby is filmmaking? That seems kind of stereotyped. So his parents are a doctor and a scientist, and his hobby is filmmaking? That seems kind of stereotyped.

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