Comments on: Snark Free Corner for 7/9 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:44:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Russell H http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-135694 Russell H Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:43:17 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-135694 They didn't need to undo any of it. They didn’t need to undo any of it.

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-131510 John Seavey Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:32:57 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-131510 JLA. I've said it before and I'll say it again--a good run on a title is one where they don't _need_ to undo everything you did two issues later. JLA. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again–a good run on a title is one where they don’t _need_ to undo everything you did two issues later.

]]> By: FunkyGreenJerusalem http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-130598 FunkyGreenJerusalem Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:17:37 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-130598 <blockquote>The New X-men run was seriously hampered by the arrival of Igor Kordey on art , and a final arc which, basically seemed to make very little sense , except possibly to a long term reader.</blockquote> The final arc was just a 'Days Of Future Past' style story, but with Morrison making the bleak future more interesting. If you read his run from the start, you had everything you needed to know for it to make sense. Hell, it's how they defeat the villain, Sublime, who was the villain behind everything that happened in his run.

The New X-men run was seriously hampered by the arrival of Igor Kordey on art , and a final arc which, basically seemed to make very little sense , except possibly to a long term reader.

The final arc was just a ‘Days Of Future Past’ style story, but with Morrison making the bleak future more interesting. If you read his run from the start, you had everything you needed to know for it to make sense.
Hell, it’s how they defeat the villain, Sublime, who was the villain behind everything that happened in his run.

]]> By: Lothor http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129935 Lothor Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:53:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129935 How about Bereet? She first appeared in Rampaging Hulk (1st series) 1 and first showed up on the cover of Incredible Hulk 287. Sure, Rampaging was retconned out of continuity upon her reappearance, but still... Same first appearance/first cover recurring villains: Wendigo first appears in and on the cover of 162; Zzzaxx in/on 166, Glob in/on 121. Just off the top of my head. How about Bereet? She first appeared in Rampaging Hulk (1st series) 1 and first showed up on the cover of Incredible Hulk 287. Sure, Rampaging was retconned out of continuity upon her reappearance, but still…

Same first appearance/first cover recurring villains: Wendigo first appears in and on the cover of 162; Zzzaxx in/on 166, Glob in/on 121. Just off the top of my head.

]]> By: FunkyGreenJerusalem http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129812 FunkyGreenJerusalem Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:56:13 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129812 New X-Men was better than JLA. JLA was some damn good superhero comics, butt they didn't do too much beyond that, where as New X-Men was a new take/re-envisioning on the concept, but one that incorporated the past. JLA was enjoyable, but New X-Men left one going 'What can he possibly do next???'. It's a shame they undid everything he was did straight after (and also that the other 'main' X-book was written by a very poor writer like Austen, and Casey doing a career worst). New X-Men was better than JLA.

JLA was some damn good superhero comics, butt they didn’t do too much beyond that, where as New X-Men was a new take/re-envisioning on the concept, but one that incorporated the past.
JLA was enjoyable, but New X-Men left one going ‘What can he possibly do next???’.
It’s a shame they undid everything he was did straight after (and also that the other ‘main’ X-book was written by a very poor writer like Austen, and Casey doing a career worst).

]]> By: M Bloom http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129596 M Bloom Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:28:39 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129596 "Bloom - he means X-Men volume 2, not X-Men which later became Uncanny." Ah, mea culpa. That's my own fault for trying to read too soon after waking up. But to vindicate myself: X-Men #30, Cyclops and Jean Grey's wedding (even if you can't really tell which of the generic Andy Kubert-drawn guys with brown hair is Iceman, you know he's one of them). “Bloom – he means X-Men volume 2, not X-Men which later became Uncanny.”

Ah, mea culpa. That’s my own fault for trying to read too soon after waking up.

But to vindicate myself: X-Men #30, Cyclops and Jean Grey’s wedding (even if you can’t really tell which of the generic Andy Kubert-drawn guys with brown hair is Iceman, you know he’s one of them).

]]> By: Bill Reed http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129573 Bill Reed Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:04:44 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129573 I've never actually read all of JLA, so I have to say NXM. And it made the X-Men readable, which is a spectacular feat. Kanjar Ro suspected on 3 and 4. He's one of my favorite alien baddies. I’ve never actually read all of JLA, so I have to say NXM. And it made the X-Men readable, which is a spectacular feat.

Kanjar Ro suspected on 3 and 4. He’s one of my favorite alien baddies.

]]> By: Omar Karindu http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129506 Omar Karindu Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:36:28 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129506 Cover game: Spectacular Spider-Man (first comic series) #199. Curiously, despite all 5 original X-Men guest-starring in Spectacular #197-9, only this final issue features all five. Cover game: Spectacular Spider-Man (first comic series) #199. Curiously, despite all 5 original X-Men guest-starring in Spectacular #197-9, only this final issue features all five.

]]> By: Apodaca http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129497 Apodaca Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:28:03 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129497 Writing-wise (because that is what Brian asked), I'd say New X-Men was the better run. There were at least four or five subplots going on at any given time, and he really made an effort to EVOLVE as many characters as possible. I can't even count the number of times I was reading that book and yelling "Holy shit!" in awe. Writing-wise (because that is what Brian asked), I’d say New X-Men was the better run. There were at least four or five subplots going on at any given time, and he really made an effort to EVOLVE as many characters as possible.

I can’t even count the number of times I was reading that book and yelling “Holy shit!” in awe.

]]> By: Scavenger http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129424 Scavenger Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:39:06 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129424 Roger: I don't think you can say that Wolverine is a Hulk supporting cast member. Roger: I don’t think you can say that Wolverine is a Hulk supporting cast member.

]]> By: James http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129336 James Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:09:22 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129336 I'd agree that the Pantheon absolutely count. The merged Hulk/Pantheon stories were the high mark of Peter David's writing on the Hulk. One great thing about the Pantheon was that David chose to introduce them into the book slowly, member by member, as a developing subplot - Perseus first shows up in #368 (also Dale Keown's first issue on pencils), and their backstory and reasons for pursuing the Hulk aren't fully revealed until #381 (over a year later). As a kid, wanting to know who these people were and enjoying the slow ride David was taking with their story hooked me on the title. I’d agree that the Pantheon absolutely count. The merged Hulk/Pantheon stories were the high mark of Peter David’s writing on the Hulk.

One great thing about the Pantheon was that David chose to introduce them into the book slowly, member by member, as a developing subplot – Perseus first shows up in #368 (also Dale Keown’s first issue on pencils), and their backstory and reasons for pursuing the Hulk aren’t fully revealed until #381 (over a year later). As a kid, wanting to know who these people were and enjoying the slow ride David was taking with their story hooked me on the title.

]]> By: Dan (other Dan) http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129308 Dan (other Dan) Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:27:46 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129308 That last Hulk issue has a great bit with Rick Jones trying to get Marlo brought back to life. Dr. Strange says it's impossible; Rick replies, 'Let's take a straw poll--I've been dead before, so have you. Wong?' 'Um, yes.' 'So come on, Doc!' It's a neat little inversion of convention, in which all the baggage of death in comics is used to further the story. That last Hulk issue has a great bit with Rick Jones trying to get Marlo brought back to life. Dr. Strange says it’s impossible; Rick replies, ‘Let’s take a straw poll–I’ve been dead before, so have you. Wong?’ ‘Um, yes.’ ‘So come on, Doc!’

It’s a neat little inversion of convention, in which all the baggage of death in comics is used to further the story.

]]> By: Rogers Cadenhead http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129294 Rogers Cadenhead Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:11:37 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129294 There was one other minor character who debuted on a Hulk cover, one issue after his first appearance in the preceding issue. http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/6797_18203_9.jpg There was one other minor character who debuted on a Hulk cover, one issue after his first appearance in the preceding issue.

http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/news_images/6797_18203_9.jpg

]]> By: ATOM HOTEP http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129287 ATOM HOTEP Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:52:15 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129287 Morrison didn't ignore the legacy of the last JLA series, he specifically addressed it by making the JLA good again, instead of an Avengers clone with crummy "real world" problems. I'm glad he had the gall to make a good comic rather than a comic that concerned itself with specifically addressing continuity issues. Morrison didn’t ignore the legacy of the last JLA series, he specifically addressed it by making the JLA good again, instead of an Avengers clone with crummy “real world” problems. I’m glad he had the gall to make a good comic rather than a comic that concerned itself with specifically addressing continuity issues.

]]> By: Tom from West Chester http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129285 Tom from West Chester Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:49:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129285 Cover game- X-men #200, unless the cover game requires that the original X-men be on the cover all by their lonesomes. Cover game- X-men #200, unless the cover game requires that the original X-men be on the cover all by their lonesomes.

]]> By: Scavenger http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129284 Scavenger Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:48:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129284 Bully...only by ignoring..if not actively spitting...on the legacy left by those who came before him. Bully…only by ignoring..if not actively spitting…on the legacy left by those who came before him.

]]> By: Scavenger http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129282 Scavenger Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:47:18 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129282 I had Kanjar Ro at 4...cuz I just watched the episode:) Hulk #381 (http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/comics/comic-show.asp?Id=tih2&Issue=381) First cover appearance of the Pantheon, who I'd say are as much supporting cast as Jim Wilson. I had Kanjar Ro at 4…cuz I just watched the episode:)

Hulk #381 (http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/comics/comic-show.asp?Id=tih2&Issue=381)
First cover appearance of the Pantheon, who I’d say are as much supporting cast as Jim Wilson.

]]> By: Bully http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129281 Bully Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:47:09 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129281 <I>JLA</I> wins if only because unlike Marvel, DC didn't freakin' run away from the promises and the energy that Morrison started in <I>JLA</I> two seconds after he left the book. Ahem. In other words, the company allowed him to have more of a lasting legacy on that team. JLA wins if only because unlike Marvel, DC didn’t freakin’ run away from the promises and the energy that Morrison started in JLA two seconds after he left the book.

Ahem. In other words, the company allowed him to have more of a lasting legacy on that team.

]]> By: sean http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129240 sean Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:46:10 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129240 Bloom - he means X-Men volume 2, not X-Men which later became Uncanny. Does he have to be Angel, or can it be any incarnation of Warren Worthington? Bloom – he means X-Men volume 2, not X-Men which later became Uncanny.

Does he have to be Angel, or can it be any incarnation of Warren Worthington?

]]> By: Matthew Lazorwitz http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/comment-page-1/#comment-129191 Matthew Lazorwitz Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:24:51 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/07/09/snark-free-corner-for-79/#comment-129191 Cover game: X-Men #200 (the Finch cover). Cover game: X-Men #200 (the Finch cover).

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