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	<title>Comments on: Cronin Theory of Comics - Chuck Austen: Harbinger</title>
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		<title>By: RHJunior</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHJunior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yet sales remained the same&quot;?

Isn&#039;t that another way of saying that the company &lt;I&gt;has not been growing?&lt;/I&gt;
Or, perhaps, that you can&#039;t sink any lower?

It was said better by someone else: 

&quot;Being unafraid to do something unpopular or refusing to do something just because everyone else is pressuring you to is admirable-- if you&#039;re in high school and we&#039;re talking about smoking or dating the ugly girl. When we&#039;re talking about running a business and producing a commodity, ignoring what people want is just colossally dumb.&quot; ---Scott Sharkey, 1Up.com, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3142621&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Memoirs of an Urban Vigilante&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Yet sales remained the same"?</p>
<p>Isn't that another way of saying that the company <i>has not been growing?</i><br />
Or, perhaps, that you can't sink any lower?</p>
<p>It was said better by someone else: </p>
<p>"Being unafraid to do something unpopular or refusing to do something just because everyone else is pressuring you to is admirable-- if you're in high school and we're talking about smoking or dating the ugly girl. When we're talking about running a business and producing a commodity, ignoring what people want is just colossally dumb." ---Scott Sharkey, 1Up.com, <a href="http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3142621" rel="nofollow">"Memoirs of an Urban Vigilante"</a></p>
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		<title>By: JJ Utley</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Utley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brian when he says Austen took this to an extreme never seen before. As Brian says:

&quot;In Avengers, characters would act dramatically different than they did from, say, two-three issues earlier. In Action Comics, Lana Lang would be trying to break up Clark and Loisâ€™ marriage out of nowhere, and Lois would be acting like an astonishing bitch to make such a separation seem possible&quot;

I must admit, this drove me mad and I can only say that I think of this as poor writing. The reason I think this is because a good writer will create great stories without sacrificing all that has gone before. When Bendis &#039;created&#039; the New Avengers he was a little more clever, basing his stories on what HAD happened in the past (although, arguably, with a different slant on things) and built upon those changes he made. Austen just made changes whenever he felt like it regardless of what even he had writen before! That&#039;s why Marvel and DC had to clamp down on him and eventually Austen left. I don&#039;t think Austen led the way - I think he was a &#039;cautionary tale&#039; of what not to do.
As for comic book sales - I think the majority of comic book readers just buy comics no matter how bad they get. They need their &#039;fix&#039; of adventure. Prankster got it right when he said:

&quot;Too many people are treating comics like newspapers: â€œI donâ€™t like whatâ€™s happening, but I need to stay informed!â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brian when he says Austen took this to an extreme never seen before. As Brian says:</p>
<p>"In Avengers, characters would act dramatically different than they did from, say, two-three issues earlier. In Action Comics, Lana Lang would be trying to break up Clark and Loisâ€™ marriage out of nowhere, and Lois would be acting like an astonishing bitch to make such a separation seem possible"</p>
<p>I must admit, this drove me mad and I can only say that I think of this as poor writing. The reason I think this is because a good writer will create great stories without sacrificing all that has gone before. When Bendis 'created' the New Avengers he was a little more clever, basing his stories on what HAD happened in the past (although, arguably, with a different slant on things) and built upon those changes he made. Austen just made changes whenever he felt like it regardless of what even he had writen before! That's why Marvel and DC had to clamp down on him and eventually Austen left. I don't think Austen led the way - I think he was a 'cautionary tale' of what not to do.<br />
As for comic book sales - I think the majority of comic book readers just buy comics no matter how bad they get. They need their 'fix' of adventure. Prankster got it right when he said:</p>
<p>"Too many people are treating comics like newspapers: â€œI donâ€™t like whatâ€™s happening, but I need to stay informed!â€</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Venue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Venue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austen was not the first to use this &quot;Algebraic approach&quot;. Many other writers in the past have twisted established characters to attain their plot goals - trouble is, they usually just disappeared off the scene after a while (a bit like Mr Austen - what has happened to him, anyway?)

But, back to the point - I think that although Austen wasn&#039;t the first to use this &quot;Algebraic approach&quot; he probably WAS the first to be widely noticed (but not necessarily liked!) by fans of the comic book media whose tastes, over time, have changed dramatically. Also, the fact that we have the Internet now means that we are talking (and &#039;publicising&#039;) our views and drawing peoples attention to writers as never before. And, let&#039;s face it, Austen certainly got a lot people taliking about him, whether he wanted to or not! Because of this change in taste, Millar and Bendis have risen to the challenge and run with it.

So, I wouldn&#039;t give Austen too much credit - it had all been done before but Chuck just happened to be in the right place at the right time, as tastes were changing. I would say the Bendis has done more to develop this &quot;Algebraic approach&quot; than most writers - so, what will happen next? Are people becoming bored with this approach? Is there scope to keep it fresh and develop it in different ways? How many times can you twist things just to fit a plot? I really don&#039;t know. Time will tell I suppose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austen was not the first to use this "Algebraic approach". Many other writers in the past have twisted established characters to attain their plot goals - trouble is, they usually just disappeared off the scene after a while (a bit like Mr Austen - what has happened to him, anyway?)</p>
<p>But, back to the point - I think that although Austen wasn't the first to use this "Algebraic approach" he probably WAS the first to be widely noticed (but not necessarily liked!) by fans of the comic book media whose tastes, over time, have changed dramatically. Also, the fact that we have the Internet now means that we are talking (and 'publicising') our views and drawing peoples attention to writers as never before. And, let's face it, Austen certainly got a lot people taliking about him, whether he wanted to or not! Because of this change in taste, Millar and Bendis have risen to the challenge and run with it.</p>
<p>So, I wouldn't give Austen too much credit - it had all been done before but Chuck just happened to be in the right place at the right time, as tastes were changing. I would say the Bendis has done more to develop this "Algebraic approach" than most writers - so, what will happen next? Are people becoming bored with this approach? Is there scope to keep it fresh and develop it in different ways? How many times can you twist things just to fit a plot? I really don't know. Time will tell I suppose!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, nothing in this piece suggests that one cannot enjoy the works of any of those three writers.

Heck, of the three, Millar and Bendis have written many good comics.

The piece merely states that Chuck Austen was the first writer to do what Bendis and Millar (and others) later did - which is the whole &quot;I want C (plot) to happen, and I want B (inciting incident) to be the cause, and I will change A (character) however I have to to make that happen&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, nothing in this piece suggests that one cannot enjoy the works of any of those three writers.</p>
<p>Heck, of the three, Millar and Bendis have written many good comics.</p>
<p>The piece merely states that Chuck Austen was the first writer to do what Bendis and Millar (and others) later did - which is the whole "I want C (plot) to happen, and I want B (inciting incident) to be the cause, and I will change A (character) however I have to to make that happen" thing.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, calm down.  Isn&#039;t it time to let some of this go?  Comics fans don&#039;t like you.  It&#039;s not the end of the world.  

For the record, I liked your X-men just fine and thought your Jimmy Olsen mini was VERY solid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, calm down.  Isn't it time to let some of this go?  Comics fans don't like you.  It's not the end of the world.  </p>
<p>For the record, I liked your X-men just fine and thought your Jimmy Olsen mini was VERY solid.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Easter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Easter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cronin, if people like Chuck Austen, Brian Michael Bendis, and/or Mark Millar then leave them be.  Why is it you must do this pissing contest where you brag how great Grant Morrison is and how terrible every other writer is?  Do you know how much disrespect this site and you as reviewer/columnist get?  I have seen many other boards talk about what a joke CBR is and it&#039;s no wonder.  You guys flame everyone who doesn&#039;t agree with your biased opinions and gang up on some one when they speak out against you.  Well, newsflash, no one takes you guys seriously.  No one takes this site seriously.  And frankly you are a joke of a reviewer and an online columnist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cronin, if people like Chuck Austen, Brian Michael Bendis, and/or Mark Millar then leave them be.  Why is it you must do this pissing contest where you brag how great Grant Morrison is and how terrible every other writer is?  Do you know how much disrespect this site and you as reviewer/columnist get?  I have seen many other boards talk about what a joke CBR is and it's no wonder.  You guys flame everyone who doesn't agree with your biased opinions and gang up on some one when they speak out against you.  Well, newsflash, no one takes you guys seriously.  No one takes this site seriously.  And frankly you are a joke of a reviewer and an online columnist.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to concur that Bendis, and to a lesser extent Millar, are much more responsible for this than Austen.  Nobody really LOVES Chuck Austen.  But there are some rabid fans of Bendis and Millar.  That&#039;s why their influence is so much greater, and so much more powerful, than that of Chuck Austen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to concur that Bendis, and to a lesser extent Millar, are much more responsible for this than Austen.  Nobody really LOVES Chuck Austen.  But there are some rabid fans of Bendis and Millar.  That's why their influence is so much greater, and so much more powerful, than that of Chuck Austen.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that writers have been &quot;messing&quot; with characterizations of characters for years, but it was almost always minor characters (like Richard Fisk in Daredevil) or done gradually (Wally West, Sue Storm, Janet Van Dyne).

Austen was notable in that he took the stars of the book and did the whole Algebraic approach with them. That was a rarity, and it was something that was picked up immediately by the rest of Marvel and DC, hence Austen being singled out as the harbinger of what Bendis and Millar LATER did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that writers have been "messing" with characterizations of characters for years, but it was almost always minor characters (like Richard Fisk in Daredevil) or done gradually (Wally West, Sue Storm, Janet Van Dyne).</p>
<p>Austen was notable in that he took the stars of the book and did the whole Algebraic approach with them. That was a rarity, and it was something that was picked up immediately by the rest of Marvel and DC, hence Austen being singled out as the harbinger of what Bendis and Millar LATER did.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t understand why Brian is crediting this approach as a Chuck Austen creation.  I think Bendis and Millar are the modern fathers of this style.  Just look at Bendis Daredevil for example, with things like the Richard Fisk characterization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don't understand why Brian is crediting this approach as a Chuck Austen creation.  I think Bendis and Millar are the modern fathers of this style.  Just look at Bendis Daredevil for example, with things like the Richard Fisk characterization.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there was anything that Chuck Austen&#039;s X-Men and Avengers runs weren&#039;t, it&#039;s fun. They were all centered around characters treating each other meanly and being lying scummy bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was anything that Chuck Austen's X-Men and Avengers runs weren't, it's fun. They were all centered around characters treating each other meanly and being lying scummy bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: TF_loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>TF_loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite enjoyed his X-men and Avengers runs. Not great but fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite enjoyed his X-men and Avengers runs. Not great but fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Bully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;He also drew a 2-parter for Scott McCloudâ€™s Zot that was pretty spiffy too. &lt;/I&gt;

Holy cow, I loved that...that&#039;s the &lt;I&gt;same&lt;/I&gt; Chuck Austen?

&lt;I&gt;What the heck happened to him?!?&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He also drew a 2-parter for Scott McCloudâ€™s Zot that was pretty spiffy too. </i></p>
<p>Holy cow, I loved that...that's the <i>same</i> Chuck Austen?</p>
<p><i>What the heck happened to him?!?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mantistotem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantistotem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 06:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that what&#039;s happening now with Marvel and DC is a slightly different equation. Instead of it being Plot Dependant, it&#039;s now Event Dependant.

Both companies are so invested in Big Events, and their flash-in-the-pan sales boosts, that they&#039;ll destroy any character to make it happen.

Did Civil War make any sense? Nope. Did it treat characters or readers with any respect? Nope. Was it a concept that they could hype and market? Oh yeah. 

Even the plots of Big Events are screwed up and all over the place, trying to keep the Event chugging along. As much as we bemoan the various character assasinations, even plots and stoytelling engines are being sacrificed to the gods of marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that what's happening now with Marvel and DC is a slightly different equation. Instead of it being Plot Dependant, it's now Event Dependant.</p>
<p>Both companies are so invested in Big Events, and their flash-in-the-pan sales boosts, that they'll destroy any character to make it happen.</p>
<p>Did Civil War make any sense? Nope. Did it treat characters or readers with any respect? Nope. Was it a concept that they could hype and market? Oh yeah. </p>
<p>Even the plots of Big Events are screwed up and all over the place, trying to keep the Event chugging along. As much as we bemoan the various character assasinations, even plots and stoytelling engines are being sacrificed to the gods of marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Whitmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Whitmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His work was flawed, and never as good on the series he did later. But I liked it better than Morrisonâ€™s New X-Men. Seemed to me Morrison was just rehashing old stories in a new style. Left me cold. Least Austen was taking risks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s so much evil and wrong in that quote, I can&#039;t believe the universe allowed it to come into existence. I&#039;m surprised a black hole didn&#039;t open up and suck the letters right off the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His work was flawed, and never as good on the series he did later. But I liked it better than Morrisonâ€™s New X-Men. Seemed to me Morrison was just rehashing old stories in a new style. Left me cold. Least Austen was taking risks.</p></blockquote>
<p>There's so much evil and wrong in that quote, I can't believe the universe allowed it to come into existence. I'm surprised a black hole didn't open up and suck the letters right off the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never read Austin&#039;s run on the X-men, but I beg to differ with mtdeeley, above:

Angel was most certainly NOT a hardass in his original incarnation: he was a millionaire, and his time in the original X-men series, as well as the Defenders, and into X-factor, showed him as more of a softie than, say, Cyclops.  You could make an argument that he had been turned into a hardass by the ArcAngel transformation, perhaps, but that&#039;s not an &quot;always were&quot; sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never read Austin's run on the X-men, but I beg to differ with mtdeeley, above:</p>
<p>Angel was most certainly NOT a hardass in his original incarnation: he was a millionaire, and his time in the original X-men series, as well as the Defenders, and into X-factor, showed him as more of a softie than, say, Cyclops.  You could make an argument that he had been turned into a hardass by the ArcAngel transformation, perhaps, but that's not an "always were" sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I never realized it before, but that entire Algebraic approach is precisely why I hate (Hate, HATE) Teen Titans.
I was a YJ fan and despised how everyones characterization changed in a month or two.

Never really saw it as &quot;Chuck Austen Style&quot; but it does fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I never realized it before, but that entire Algebraic approach is precisely why I hate (Hate, HATE) Teen Titans.<br />
I was a YJ fan and despised how everyones characterization changed in a month or two.</p>
<p>Never really saw it as "Chuck Austen Style" but it does fit.</p>
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		<title>By: mtdeeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>mtdeeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I thought Austen was good on Uncanny X-men.  His cast was primarily made up of lesser-known or second-tier X-Men without a lot of established continuity.  Angel was a hard-ass, Iceman was a joker, just like they always were.  Husk and Juggernaut were taken in new directions that seemd natural for them.  (Though the Husk-Angel romance was weird.  And them having sex flying over Husk&#039;s mother should not have happened.)  And I always liked Stacy X.  Plus, Austen&#039;s soap-opera style of writing seemed perfect for &quot;All My Mutants&quot;.  

His work was flawed, and never as good on the series he did later.  But I liked it better than Morrison&#039;s New X-Men.  Seemed to me Morrison was just rehashing old stories in a new style.  Left me cold.  Least Austen was taking risks.  

And if your head hasn&#039;t exploded yet, I also liked &quot;Worldwatch&quot;, his very short-lived self-published series with Norm Rapmund about amoral superheroes who eventually destroyed themselves.  And walked around naked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I thought Austen was good on Uncanny X-men.  His cast was primarily made up of lesser-known or second-tier X-Men without a lot of established continuity.  Angel was a hard-ass, Iceman was a joker, just like they always were.  Husk and Juggernaut were taken in new directions that seemd natural for them.  (Though the Husk-Angel romance was weird.  And them having sex flying over Husk's mother should not have happened.)  And I always liked Stacy X.  Plus, Austen's soap-opera style of writing seemed perfect for "All My Mutants".  </p>
<p>His work was flawed, and never as good on the series he did later.  But I liked it better than Morrison's New X-Men.  Seemed to me Morrison was just rehashing old stories in a new style.  Left me cold.  Least Austen was taking risks.  </p>
<p>And if your head hasn't exploded yet, I also liked "Worldwatch", his very short-lived self-published series with Norm Rapmund about amoral superheroes who eventually destroyed themselves.  And walked around naked.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the â€˜algebraic approach to comicsâ€™ is as recent a development as you make it out to be.

See for example any 70&#039;s Cary Bates comic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the â€˜algebraic approach to comicsâ€™ is as recent a development as you make it out to be.</p>
<p>See for example any 70's Cary Bates comic.</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I want C (plot) to happen, and I want B (inciting incident) to be the cause, and I will change A (character) however I have to to make that happen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&quot;And I&#039;ll call it a &#039;secondary mutation,&#039; so I can put Emma Frost into the Colossus role.&quot;

Oh, wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I want C (plot) to happen, and I want B (inciting incident) to be the cause, and I will change A (character) however I have to to make that happen.</p></blockquote>
<p>"And I'll call it a 'secondary mutation,' so I can put Emma Frost into the Colossus role."</p>
<p>Oh, wait...</p>
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		<title>By: RHJunior</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHJunior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of COURSE sales remained the same. They&#039;ve already run off all but the most diehard, pathetically desperate fans--- the ones for whom even a Craptacular issue of Spider-Man or Superman is (for now) still better than none at all. The ones that, like eternally disappointed fans of an eternally bad baseball team, keep coming back in the blind, glassy-eyed hope that maybe THIS issue won&#039;t suck as bad as they expect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of COURSE sales remained the same. They've already run off all but the most diehard, pathetically desperate fans--- the ones for whom even a Craptacular issue of Spider-Man or Superman is (for now) still better than none at all. The ones that, like eternally disappointed fans of an eternally bad baseball team, keep coming back in the blind, glassy-eyed hope that maybe THIS issue won't suck as bad as they expect...</p>
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