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Comic Book Cheers and Jeers for 7/16

Here are a bunch of cheers and jeers from me, mostly having to do with this week’s new releases!

There will most likely be some spoilers…otherwise, enjoy!

CHEERS to a new Martha Washington comic book coming out.

JEERS to the new Martha Washington comic book basically being a promo for the upcoming trade release of Martha Washington.

CHEERS, though, to Martha Washington as a whole. Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons rule.

JEERS to the killer in Stormwatch PHD #9. Granted, Christos Gage gave himself some breathing room by specifically noting that the killer’s mental faculties might have been compromised a bit, but even so, it seemed pretty silly to see this character go the extremes that took place in the issue. “No, I just meant to nicely lobotomize him! I didn’t know that might hurt him!” Silly.

CHEERS to the frenetic pace of the second part of the Sinestro Corps storyline in the Green Lantern books.

JEERS to the amount of times Hal Jordan is referred to as the greatest Green Lantern in the latest issue. I think it was about 112 times.

CHEERS to the idea that at least we all know that Parallax is a temporary thing, and that’s made pretty clear IN the comic, too.

JEERS to the latest issue of Veronica, which makes promises on the cover about Veronica’s secrets being exposed, but only the opening story really uses the idea to any good effect.

CHEERS to Mike Allred for trying to draw pretty much every other panel in the latest Madman in the style of a different artist.

JEERS to the actual finished project, which really didn’t read all that well. But identifying the artists he is homaging is fun!!

CHEERS to the artwork on the interiors of Consumed #1, the latest comic from Platinum Studios. Dennis Budd and Joe Caramanga do a great job.

JEERS to the artwork on the exterior of Consumed #1. I don’t mind Joe Linser’s proclivity for posteriors that much, really, so long as it makes some sense. The cover of Consumed, however, does NOT feature a…ahem…zoftig woman, and yet, there she is on the cover drawn that way.

CHEERS to the title of the second Nextwave hardcover – “I Kick Your Face.”

JEERS to the entire concept of the “Gamma Corps.” Rarely do you see a more blatant “yeah, this is for this crossover, and you’ll probably never see these characters again” comic than this one.

CHEERS to Yanick Paquette’s Psylocke in the latest Ultimate X-Men.

JEERS to most of the rest of the issue. Seriously, Ultimate Stryfe and Ultimate Zero now? LAME!!

CHEERS to Burnout in the latest Gen13 getting more character development by Gail Simone in one issue than Burnout got in years of old Gen13 comics.

JEERS, though, for the “rasta” part of Burnout’s origin. I get that Simone specifically has Burnout point out that things didn’t change for him as soon as he heard Bob Marley on the radio – but that’s basically the gist of the plot. He hears Bob Marley and is almost instantly transformed. Seemed quite silly, which was out of place in a dramatic flashback sequence to Burnout’s youth.

CHEERS to the nice character work Geoff Johns did in the latest Justice Society of America with Citizen Steel and his family. Quite cute.

JEERS to how long we’ve had to wait for this issue of Nexus!!

CHEERS to the latest Nexus, which may actually have been worth the wait!!

JEERS to the introduction in the latest Superman of Squad K. I think the idea of a government team designed around stopping Superman when/if he ever becomes controlled by an outside force is a good one, but it seems out of place in the middle of the big Arion storyline in Superman.

CHEERS to Denise Mina’s Hellblazer, which is now completely available in trades. Yay!

That’s all for now! Maybe I’ll add a few more before Wednesday!!

32 Comments

gotta peek inside ultimate x-men to see what you mean about psylocke but i will not be buying it…seriously thing they need to start from scratch with ult x-men now, it’s beyond bad

Squad K . . . didn’t Busiek create a “Cadre K” at Marvel?

Hear, hear on the cheers & jeers for Martha Washington and Madman. The latter is really vexing me: I love the artwork and have fond memories of the Allred’s earlier work on the character, but I’m not sure how much longer I want to keep buying what is essentially a serialized “Art of Madman” coffee table book.

I would add:

CHEERS to Stormwatch: PHD as a whole. I have little knowledge and zero attachment to the Wildstorm universe outside of Planetary, but I’m really enjoying this title. The reveal this issue was a little weak, but far from a dealbreaker for me.

MEGA-JEERS to Dr. Strange’s “My powers won’t work in these conditions” excuse in the latest New Avengers. He can resurrect himself from his spirit form last issue and now he can’t even levitate because of high winds? Say what you will about “Superboy punch”, but at least it kept a superhero story in the realm of the fantastic. This was just a lazy limiting of a character’s abilities so the writer could create the situation he wanted.

About the only thing I can say for Mina’s run of Hellblazer was that it was slightly less awful than Azzarello’s run, but wow, it was a complete chore for me to buy and read by the end.

Empathy is the Enemy was a decent enough arc, but The Red Right Hand was a terrible conclusion and the one-off issue about Map they crammed in between was utterly incoherent even without the fact that it completely broke the flow of the story. Needless to say, next time I reread the series I’m going to be skipping directly from Carey to Diggle.

But aside from that, I really have to agree with you on Ultimate X-Men. Kirkman has basically destroyed the series so completely that the only way to salvage it is for the next writer to reveal that Kirkman’s entire run was a mass hallucination induced by that Magician kid.

Thanks for mentioning Nexus. It was soooooo awesome to be buying a new issue of my absolute favorite comic again. Well worth the wait, as you said.

What, no cheers for P-Cat, the Penitent Puss?

The Kirbydotter

July 16, 2007 at 9:49 am

I’d also like to add my Cheers for NEXUS!

Storywise, it’s better that anything that was produced during the time at Dark Horse. It looks like we are back on track! Way to go Baron! Rude rules!

I have to admit that this is my favorite feature on this blog, TV Guide be damned.

[quote]But aside from that, I really have to agree with you on Ultimate X-Men. Kirkman has basically destroyed the series so completely that the only way to salvage it is for the next writer to reveal that Kirkman’s entire run was a mass hallucination induced by that Magician kid.[/quote]

I agree! I usually love Kirkman’s stuff (Walking Dead, Wolf Man, etc.) but his X-Men was a bag of crap. I wish I could figure why it didn’t work.

It is really staggering how bad Kirkman is on Ultimate X-Men.

It’s like there was absolutely no advance warning – just out of nowhere – BAMMO – AWFULNESS!

I have to admit that this is my favorite feature on this blog, TV Guide be damned.

Thanks!

I love the artwork and have fond memories of the Allred’s earlier work on the character, but I’m not sure how much longer I want to keep buying what is essentially a serialized “Art of Madman” coffee table book.

Funny, that’s the only reason I’m buying the book. Allred’s never been much of a writer and the dialogue in this series has been really awkward and forced. It feels like the kind of thing a high school student writes as a play for english class.

But the art is beautiful. And that’s all I’m looking for in this series.

I must say it is shocking how Kirkman can go from Invincible down to Walking Dead ALLL the way down to Ultimate X-Men.

“JEERS to the amount of times Hal Jordan is referred to as the greatest Green Lantern in the latest issue. I think it was about 112 times.”

I like Geoff Johns. He’s one of my favorite writers currently working in comics. That said, it’s obvious he has a man-crush of unprecedented proportions on Hal Jordan. He loves the guy so much he can’t help but gush over and over and over about how freaking awesome he is (while conveniently overlooking things like the fact that Hal is insanely boring when not in GL mode or the fact that Kyle Rayner, in spite of not being Hal, is actually competent).

“Ultimate Stryfe”? OK, yeah, that’s a little scary, creative-bankruptcy-wise. Is it even possible to have an Ultimate version of a ’90′s comic character?

Just want to chime in and add my own dismay to Kirkman’s Ultimate X-men. I haven’t read the book for quite a few issues, but no amount of, “it’s not as bad as it was…” can convince me to look at that book again. Let down of the century.

Nitz the Bloody

July 16, 2007 at 5:37 pm

I actually like Ultimate X-Men, albeit in the same way one would watch a train crash– perverse amusement. In my mind, Ultimate X-Men ( like most of the other Ultimate Books ) was ruined the moment its original creative team left, and every creative team since has just been throwing s**t against the wall to see what sticks. The only thing that makes Kirkman’s run different than Vaughan’s or Bendis’ is that he’s taking the ” feces throwing ” approach to such an absurd level that it’s darkly entertaining.

Hence, every time I see things like Nightcrawler going insane, Cable turning out to be Wolverine from the future, or Cyclops disbanding the X-Men in favor of a pacifist approach, it just seems to me like Kirkman’s having a lot of fun making an already strange reinterpretation of the X-Mythos even more bizarre. So why can’t we have fun with him?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

July 16, 2007 at 6:17 pm

It is really staggering how bad Kirkman is on Ultimate X-Men.

It’s like there was absolutely no advance warning – just out of nowhere – BAMMO – AWFULNESS!

You have to remember that Kirkman does love his 90′s comics, and that’s what the x-men were like in the 90′s.

You have to remember that Kirkman does love his 90’s comics, and that’s what the x-men were like in the 90’s.

I was just about to write something along the lines of agreeing with you and noting that this should’ve been obvious from the start.

And then I wondered: Is it possible that he’s enough of a genius to be purposefully writing the comics to be as bad as the nineties comics he’s trying to emulate?

Nah, couldn’t be.

I’ll be the sole dissenter and note that I kind of enjoyed the last issue of Ultimate X-Men, but I can’t figure out if that’s because it was genuinely OK or if it’s just because the last 14 or so issues have been such an ugly, massive trainwreck that anything would look good by the comparison.

It’s really frustrating, because I’ve been reading the title since the first issue. I was always a big fan of the X-Men but couldn’t get into the comics because of the byzantine continuity, so naturally when they started the Ultimate imprint I was tremendously excited. And for a while it was good, even if Millar’s take on the book was totally not where I would have gone with it.

Still, it worked okay, and it was something the 616 X-Men could never be: one team, no alternate timelines, situated in the mansion, led by Professor X with all the best characters. And Bendis’ run was fun and Vaughan’s, despite some stuff that didn’t really work, was hugely under appreciated.

But man, this Kirkman stuff has been a mess. Just bad idea after bad idea after bad idea, illustrated by an ever-changing lineup of artists, which really shoots any hope visual consistency in the foot. It’s not worth even talking about length. Just… God.

I think the book is still salvageable, but only barely. They really need to get him off as fast as possible. And I like the guy, I really do — his Image stuff is a blast. I want to see him succeed on this book. But he’s had more then his fair shot and utterly botched it.

Funny, that’s the only reason I’m buying the book. Allred’s never been much of a writer and the dialogue in this series has been really awkward and forced.

We’re on the same page here, Apodaca. At least the older Madman stuff was zany fun, making the clunky dialogue part of the charm. This seems overly serious and really highlights the weaknesses of the writing. The art is gorgeous- some of the best of his career – but the story negatives have me thinking about saving my three bucks in hopes of an oversized hardcover I can buy later just for the art.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

July 16, 2007 at 11:26 pm

And then I wondered: Is it possible that he’s enough of a genius to be purposefully writing the comics to be as bad as the nineties comics he’s trying to emulate?

It’s possible.
Even Alan Moore sucked in the 90′s when he set out to write comics as bad as 90′s comics, so it’s possible Kirkman is trying that.*
I just think he’s gone ‘The Ultimate line was created to get people into comics, and the 90′s x-men got me into comics, so I’ll write the book using those stories’.
Throw in some ideas about how he’ll be able to write the ‘right’ this time, and you’ve got what he’s trying to do.

*When will they release some of that Moore “gold” in trade?
I’d love to sit and read the Voodoo mini, or the Violator mini’s and especially Spawn:Blood Feud which I thought was sweet when I was a teen.

The Voodoo mini is collected, under the title “Dancing in the Dark”. (ISBN 10: 1563895331.) His whole WildCATs run is also in print, as is a big chunk of his run on Supreme…really, the big thing that isn’t collected is ’1963′, and that was never even finished, let alone collected. (One of the biggest thrills in my life was getting my letter published in 1963 #6; I wrote a letter in the style of 1960s comics fan mail about a totally fictional issue of ‘The Tomorrow Syndicate’, complete with requests to see made-up villains return and my best efforts at Stan Lee slang…when Alan Moore printed it, complete with a Stan Lee-esque response, I was on Cloud Nine for a good while.) But I’d also like to see ‘Spawn Vs. WildCATs’ get collected; that was a fun little story.

Alan Moore was sort of slumming it in the 90s, but that was half the fun. Sort of like hearing a concert pianist playing a Britney Spears song. :)

“When will they release some of that Moore “gold” in trade?
I’d love to sit and read the Voodoo mini, or the Violator mini’s and especially Spawn:Blood Feud which I thought was sweet when I was a teen.”

There’s a trade coming within the next month called ‘Alan Moore’s Wild Worlds’. It is supposed to reprint the Voodoo limited series (which is available in trade already, but probably OOP), ‘Spawn/WildC.A.T.S.’, the great one-off story from ‘Wildstorm Spotlight’ (previously collected in a trade called “Mr. Majestic”), and the limited series ‘Deathblow by Blows’.

There are trades of ‘Spawn: Blood Feud’ (without the prequel story) and at least one of his ‘Violator’ minis, but they’re old and not readily available. Anything else which hasn’t been collected from his Image days is either incomplete (’1963′, ‘Glory’) or just a really short story (‘Shadowhawks of Legend’, ‘Spawn’).

And then I wondered: Is it possible that he’s enough of a genius to be purposefully writing the comics to be as bad as the nineties comics he’s trying to emulate? Nah, couldn’t be.

I read this comment, and suddenly that it occurred to me that if the exact same issue had appeared as published, with the sole change being that Grant Morrison was credited as writer, people would automatically be assuming it was intended as a brilliant example of irony and would be praising him for creating a metatextual commentary on bad 1990s X-Men stories. But since Kirkman wrote it, nah, it’s unintentionally sucky.

I s’pose it would help if Kirkman had a similar track record of creating metatextual commentaries…

I read this comment, and suddenly that it occurred to me that if the exact same issue had appeared as published, with the sole change being that Grant Morrison was credited as writer, people would automatically be assuming it was intended as a brilliant example of irony and would be praising him for creating a metatextual commentary on bad 1990s X-Men stories. But since Kirkman wrote it, nah, it’s unintentionally sucky.

PERHAPS, and I stress PERHAPS, if Morrison (or any other writer) had the X-Men transported to another reality for an issue or two, and in that reality, had the X-Men act like crappy 90s versions of the X-Men, then I could see Morrison (or any other writer) being praised for it.

Writing, what, 20 issues now of crappy X-Men comics? No one would praise Morrison (or any other writer) for such a thing.

Gosh, people just look for any excuse to push their agenda, don’t they?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

July 17, 2007 at 6:00 pm

But since Kirkman wrote it, nah, it’s unintentionally sucky.

When has Kirkman ever shown interest in something like that?
He’s done straight homages and satires, but he makes it clear that that’s what they are.

And if you must know, Morrison already did a Doom Patrol annual taking the piss out of 90′s X-Men – it was called ‘Doom Force’. It is amusing. And eerily accurate.
Oh, he also has a sequence in The Invisibles where King Mob tells of a previous adventure, but makes himself out to be a tougher guy than he is, and it’s drawn in the Liefield manner.
Neither moments are raved about, so I guess that kills your little point about Grant getting praised if he did that – because he already did, and none of us were too excited by it…

People who don’t ‘get’ Morrison should check out Doom Force though. It’s pretty obvious humour, so for once you’ll be able to able to understand the commentary, and not have to attack us for understanding something you didn’t.

Morrison’s pitch for DOOM FORCE at the end of Doom Force is hilarious. Also, if I remember correctly, the last time Morrison did a homage to a not so beloved type of comic, the Denny O’Neil Batman prose pieces, he was widely panned.

“MEGA-JEERS to Dr. Strange’s “My powers won’t work in these conditions” excuse in the latest New Avengers. He can resurrect himself from his spirit form last issue and now he can’t even levitate because of high winds?”
I don’t believe he mentioned that it was the high-winds, I believe that was your inference. But yeah, I didn’t get it either.

Oh, and Ultimate X-men is seriously flawed at this point. Lets not forget that Xavier ‘died’ and the Beast is and has been alive. Ultimate X-men has gone off the rails. The book was flawed since the beginning and the current stories seem to be making it more convoluted and… well… not good.

Kirkman on Ultimate X-Men makes me weep inside. I had been reading it since #1, but now I don’t even buy the book anymore. I just thumb through it to see what’s going on, while I wait for a new writer.

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