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Will the animated version of New Frontier be good?
I think it has a better chance than any of the other dtv movies DC and Marvel are putting out. Cooke’s involvement and history in animation can only be a good thing. I’m not a fan of them forcing a 70 minute cut on all of these movies, but I suppose that’s the reality of the business.
Yeah, I got to agree on the 70 minute thing. It seems so arbitrary and limiting. However, despite that I think New Frontier will be the best of at least these 3 DTVs.
It’s not so much “arbitrary” as “what bean counters think is the maximum length an untested niche product with hand-drawn animation can be and still make money.” If the first 3 sell a million copies or something, then the second 3 might have a longer runtime.
I think it could actually be better–I strenuously disliked ‘New Frontier’, finding it to be impenetrable, underplotted, and with a subtext that I thought was simple-minded twaddle. For the animated movie, they’ll have to cut out a lot of the extraneous material that irritated me so much. Ergo, it might improve significantly.
I’m pretty confident it will be good as hell
I’m a little peeved that this and Judas Contract come after Superman Doomsday though. Ican’t wait till flipping 2008. Thats too long.
I’ve got a lot of optimism for it… But one place where they could fall down is the animation. As good as the stories and casting were in JLU, the animation on that show was a heavy set-back.
They have a good story, the casting so far sounds great… If they can get some decent animation, then we could have something special. And I’m not just saying ape the animation from Batman: TAS or Batman Beyond, I’m saying it’s time to go further than that, improve it, set a new benchmark otherwise the flick will just be seen as another cheap American rip-off of Anime
I sure hope so.
I hope it is, but I would’ve loved to have seen this in volumes, like the books.
But hey, I’m not the one in charge of things. I do look forward to it.
I think Bruce Timm has earned unconditional trust by this point. If these three flicks are all bombs maybe we can start to doubt a little, but until then, Make Mine Timm.
The hell should I know?
Certainly precedent is not on its side — there have oodles of these direct-to-dvd animated releases lately, both as comic book projects and as tie-ins to major motion pictures, with a handful of standalones as well. Almost all have sucked, with the notable exception of the big-budget The Animatrix and, of course, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
But all of the Marvel movies have been disappointing, with only isolated moments of coolness to recommend them. I’m encouraged — as is everyone — by Timm and Cooke’s involvement, as well as the strength of the original storyline, but even great animators like those two stumble every now and then.
Mostly it’s the economics that concern me — these animated features tend to have smallish budgets and wind up with merely TV-quality animation and short running times, and that’s a big impediment to being great. None of what I’ve seen with Superman: Doomsday, for instance, convinces me that it’ll look any better than the average episode of Justice League Unlimited, and I don’t think it’ll have animation team that was able to stretch the dollar
so far the way that show team did.
I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m not expecting greatness from any of these projects. I’m definitely not writing New Frontier off, though, and I’d love to be proven hideously, terribly wrong.
It should be good, I loved the story.
It took me back to pre-Crisis days and entertained me, and added some insight into the characters. It was fun.
Good? Sure, why not.
Even close to as good as the original? Hell no.
Jesus, I hope so.
I’m with stealthwise, I don’t expect it too be as good (let alone better) than the comic but it shouldn’t be too hard to make an entertaining flick out of it, especially with the talent involved. And with those broad panels New Frontier already has a kind of a movie feel to it.
Like all adaptations, it will be good to those who never read the source material and mercilessly scrutinized by those that did.
It should be thought of as its own thing. Like Harry potter and all his movies.
Or Blade Runner.
Timm’s behind it, so yes!
Since the print version was dry as melba toast, I would predict it would be just as dull even with the characters moving around….
Hey, with all the talk awhile back about how The Watchmen should be a 12-part HBO series, don’t you think it would be nice to do it as a series of 12 animated episodes? If the first few discs do well, maybe they’ll consider something like this. Especially as a ‘definitive version’ after the two-hour Hollywood version comes out.
I guess you never saw “From Hell” or “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”.
That wasn’t good to anybody.
Bruce Timm and Darwyn Cooke? Now you know you in trouble!
(I guess you never saw â€œFrom Hellâ€ or â€œThe League of Extraordinary Gentlemenâ€.
That wasnâ€™t good to anybody.)
Well I disagree on League–I loved the movie, and the comic book bored me to tears.
I disagree with From Hell, it sucked as an adaptation of the comic but on it’s own merit it wasn’t a bad movie.
The less said about the league movie the better.
Sorry, folks, but I’ve got to come to the defense of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I enjoyed the movie a great deal, but was disappointed when I read the comic. Maybe if I’d read the comic first…. nah, probably not.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: I liked the comic and the movie. Two very different things, but I liked them both.
See, I’m not the only one who liked the movie…
I may be in the minority–but so what?
It was fun.
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