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Unsurprisingly, more cool news for us to discuss!

Including the announcement of the Amazing Spider-Man (almost) weekly creative team!

Amazing Spider-Man creative team!! Writers: Dan Slott, Zeb Wells, Marc Guggenheim, and Bob Gale. Artists: Phil Jimenez, Steve McNiven, Salvador LaRoca and Chris Bachalo.

Hmmm…there is some good, some REALLY good, and some mediocre there, but on the whole, it is probably better than DC’s Countdown line-up (especially the artists), so Marvel is off to a nice start.

Jamie Delano doing a special Hellblazer project with artwork by Jock. That will be good. I trust Matt Wagner implicitly, so as silly as a Madame Xanadu comic book sounds, I will trust in him that it will be good.

Teen Titans East by Judd Winick and Ian Churchill. That was quite sporting of DC to put both creators on the same title.

By the by, how freakin’ creepy do you have to get to go to a panel with a freakin’ “Dan Didio Must Die!” T-Shirt?!?

It reminds me of this one guy who I banned on the CBR forums for talking about wanting to stab Bendis in the throat because he killed Ant-Man.

Freakazoids.

At least “Dan Didio Must Die!” can be taken as an actual joke!!!

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That was quite sporting of DC to put both creators on the same title.

Bwahahahah!

The ASM thing does not really excite me. But it’d take a lot to get me to pick up a Spider-Man comic…

I wonder how the Amazing readers will react to the artistic shifts from month to month.

Whereas 52 had a very consistent, interchangable stable of artists at its core, with the odd issue by Nauck or Roberston, Amazing is staffed with pencillers that have fairly unique styles. Will the rotation from McNiven to Larroca to Jimenez to Bachalo and back prove too jarring?

Maybe they’ll try to let them work ahead of schedule, and have them each do separate story arcs?

That’s exactly what they’re doing, Brian.

Of course, my getting it all hinges on Peter and MJ still being married after One More Day.

And Winick and Churchill? It’s probably possible to put together a creative team I’m less interested in, but darned if DC didn’t outdo themselves anyway.

Wow. I sure hope they don’t line up Jimenez and Bachalo, one after the other. That would be a pretty major shift in styles.

Man, the best they could do was Bob Gale and Zeb Wells?

I think Guggenheim and Slott are pretty good fits though.

By the by, how freakin’ creepy do you have to get to go to a panel with a freakin’ “Dan Didio Must Die!” T-Shirt?!?

No, no, it’s okay – remember, everybody’s allowed to irrationally hate Dan DiDio and make jokes at his expense, because he has the unabashed temerity to let characters change and grow. The internet said so…

Hmmmm…. Back when Kurt Busiek left Aquaman he said it was because he had an idea for some super project. I figured that it would be announced at comicon and yet I didn’t hear anything. I wonder what that project was and if it is still in the works?

because he has the unabashed temerity to let characters change and grow.

I think you typed “change and grow” when you meant “be killed off.”

I’ll pick up Amazing Spidey for a while and see where it leads. I’d prefer Fraction and Kirkman in the Wells/Gale roles, but I’ll give them all a free pass for a few months. If they fail me by that point, I will tear them apart with great vengeance and furious anger as only the internet makes possible.

Andrew Collins

July 29, 2007 at 5:47 pm

jccalhoun said:
“Hmmmm…. Back when Kurt Busiek left Aquaman he said it was because he had an idea for some super project. I figured that it would be announced at comicon and yet I didn’t hear anything. I wonder what that project was and if it is still in the works?”

I can’t remember which panel it was on, but Busiek made yet another mention of that “big project he couldn’t yet talk about” so apparently something is coming. Maybe a series or followup after DC’s Final Crisis?

FunkyGreenJerusalem

July 29, 2007 at 6:30 pm

By the by, how freakin’ creepy do you have to get to go to a panel with a freakin’ “Dan Didio Must Die!” T-Shirt?!?

Sounds like it was done for a laugh though.

I’ll pick up Amazing Spidey for a while and see where it leads. I’d prefer Fraction and Kirkman in the Wells/Gale roles, but I’ll give them all a free pass for a few months.

Wells did a couple of good ‘tangled web’ stories, and Gale’s DD run, though ignored, was fun.

I just like the idea of Marvel saying Spidey was going to be more fun, and then actually putting on teams that make me believe it – DC should learn from that.
So if MJ’s still in the book, I’m there.

And how weird will a Bachalo Spideran look?
It never crossed my mind that he’d want to do that!

I went to the “DC Big Guns” (whatever that means) panel on Sunday, and when DiDio appeared from nowhere and walked up to the mike as a joke to needle his editors, Eddie Berganza, who was “moderating,” held up a “Dan DiDio Must Die” shirt in the style of those Countdown “Jimmy Olsen Must Die” ads. Is that the same shirt we’re talking about? Does that mean that Berganza got one from the crazed fan? Just curious.

Salvador LaRoca and Chris Bachalo. Ick.

Rohan Williams

July 29, 2007 at 8:56 pm

I think the shirt was first mentioned as a joke by one of the editors, and DiDio went along with it. Nothing too nefarious.

Steve McNiven on a weekly title?

HHHHAAA AHHHA HHAAAA HAAAA HAAA HAAA!

haa haaa haaaa haaa aahh haaa!

hee!

No, seriously, what else you got?

Yeah, like I mentioned above, “Dan Dido Must Die” could at least actually be a real joke. There certainly is that chance.

Did anything on the Didio shirt make it look like the Jimmy Olsen ads? The lettering, the color, etc?

Cause it’s kinda funny on that level, but I can quite easily see someone being screwed up enough to wear something like that in anger instead of in jest.

Looks like “Titans East” has a good chance of stealing the Worst Creative Team Eisner from “Onslaught Reborn”.

I expected Salvador Larroca and Bachalo to be a bad fit, but from what I’ve seen of their preview art, it’s actually quite good!! I also expected Jiminez to come off as an overdetailed Perez clone with long, gangly figures and goofy effeminate faces and based on the preview art…he didn’t disappoint.

“Man, the best they could do was Bob Gale and Zeb Wells?

I think Guggenheim and Slott are pretty good fits though. ”

Thats funny I thought Slott was the weak link in that line-up and the choices of Gale and Wells were out there but perfect. Not saying I wouldn’t have also liked Fraction, but I’m good with this current crop.

“Steve McNiven on a weekly title?
[...]No, seriously, what else you got?”
Well McNiven did the monthly MK 4 for about 6 months uninteruppted, and then he did a full arc of on-time issues of New Avengers. You’re assesment is wrong.

Zeb Wells has written some really good stories in the past, and Bob Gale’s handful of previous comics weren’t bad either. Besides, they’re part of a team here, and it’s more about the strength of the team than having an all-star cast.

Now I’m picturing the other Countdown slogans…

“WWDDD?”

“Unto DiDio shall come…a Great Disaster…”

“DiDio Defiant”

I’ve found most of the stuff Wells has written to be real mediocre, especially the last few things he’s done for Marvel (even the Marvel Adventures Spider-Man issues). He’s not offensive, but he’s not great either.

I wonder if these are guys that would not only fit the tone (slightly more light-hearted, which is good) but also the editorial limits that are necessary in this sort of One Title approach.

The Dan Didio shirt does look like the Jimmy Olsen must die ads.
Newsarama has a picture of it at the top of this page http://www.newsarama.com/Comic-Con_07/DC/BigGuns.html

That looks like a decent team of writers (though I’m not familiar with Guggenheim) but I really don’t like the move to a weekly comic by a team of writers. It’s this approach that has sucked the life out of the Superman and Batman books in the past.

In a perverse way, I’m really looking forward to seeing Bachallo’s Spider-Man. Although I do generally like his style when he’s not trying to do kinetic action sequences. Which is like the meat of most Spider-Man comics, but still… One cool thing about Zeb Wells is that he used to post on the Spider-Man board back when I moderated it. He was a cool guy. I’ve only read a couple of his comics (and was kind of underwhelmed by that giant monster thing he did with the late Seth Fischer), but I’m willing to give this weekly Spidey thing a shot, even if MJ winds up in a refrigerator or something.

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