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	<title>Comments on: Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #116</title>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On an unrelated note, does anyone know if that &quot;Joe Shuster becoming a delivery boy at 50 and sending packages to DC offices in rags&quot; story is true?  I hear hushed whispers, etc. about it, thought I&#039;d ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On an unrelated note, does anyone know if that "Joe Shuster becoming a delivery boy at 50 and sending packages to DC offices in rags" story is true?  I hear hushed whispers, etc. about it, thought I'd ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Barnett</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-167948</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that Emplate was revealed as Monet&#039;s brother during the original run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that Emplate was revealed as Monet's brother during the original run.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some pretty strong correspondences between the Hellions and the New Mutants (Wolfsbane/Catseye and Jetstream/Cannonball in particular), but there are some that don&#039;t match up as well (Roulette and Magma, for example).  Karma wasn&#039;t on the team when the Hellions first appeared; Empath and Tarot combined sort of approximate Mirage&#039;s powers.  Since the Hellions were created as rivals, it made sense for Claremont to give them powers that would make them a reasonable challenge to the New Mutants (an animalistic character, a strong guy, a flier, a mentalist and a couple of wild cards).  He could well have had something more in mind for all I know, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some pretty strong correspondences between the Hellions and the New Mutants (Wolfsbane/Catseye and Jetstream/Cannonball in particular), but there are some that don't match up as well (Roulette and Magma, for example).  Karma wasn't on the team when the Hellions first appeared; Empath and Tarot combined sort of approximate Mirage's powers.  Since the Hellions were created as rivals, it made sense for Claremont to give them powers that would make them a reasonable challenge to the New Mutants (an animalistic character, a strong guy, a flier, a mentalist and a couple of wild cards).  He could well have had something more in mind for all I know, though.</p>
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		<title>By: NICOLAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NICOLAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the Hellions, I have a question : were the original Hrellions intended by Chris Claremeont as a reverse opposite of the New Mutants ? Or a parallel ? I.E Karma/Empath, Wolfsbane/Catseye, etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the Hellions, I have a question : were the original Hrellions intended by Chris Claremeont as a reverse opposite of the New Mutants ? Or a parallel ? I.E Karma/Empath, Wolfsbane/Catseye, etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My god is there some horrible art on most of those coversâ€¦ &quot;

They hurt my eyes just looking at them.

To draw an analogy, Liefeld&#039;s approach to &quot;art&quot; is akin to a lousy rock band that tries to compensate for its lack of playing ability by playing really, really loud. Sadly, he started a trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"My god is there some horrible art on most of those coversâ€¦ "</p>
<p>They hurt my eyes just looking at them.</p>
<p>To draw an analogy, Liefeld's approach to "art" is akin to a lousy rock band that tries to compensate for its lack of playing ability by playing really, really loud. Sadly, he started a trend.</p>
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		<title>By: yo go re</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo go re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Uncanny #322 wasnâ€™t Onslaughtâ€™s first appearence. He debuted in X-Men:Prime (written by Mark Waid IIRC)weeks earlier and attacked Mystique first, not the Juggernaut.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nope. Mystique was attacked in &lt;i&gt;X-Men Prime&lt;/i&gt; (actually written by Lobdell and Nicieza), but we never saw who it was - just someone in the shadows who slashed her across the chest. It may have been rolled into the Onslaught stuff later, but at the time it was just more Claremontian plot-dangling: throw in a mysterious reference with no idea of what it&#039;s going to mean, and it&#039;ll be there when you need it later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Uncanny #322 wasnâ€™t Onslaughtâ€™s first appearence. He debuted in X-Men:Prime (written by Mark Waid IIRC)weeks earlier and attacked Mystique first, not the Juggernaut.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope. Mystique was attacked in <i>X-Men Prime</i> (actually written by Lobdell and Nicieza), but we never saw who it was - just someone in the shadows who slashed her across the chest. It may have been rolled into the Onslaught stuff later, but at the time it was just more Claremontian plot-dangling: throw in a mysterious reference with no idea of what it's going to mean, and it'll be there when you need it later.</p>
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		<title>By: chroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>chroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly is the &quot;genetic marrow&quot;.  I&#039;ve been wondering that for 13 years now.

Not all the time, of course.  Just off and on.  It&#039;s not like my entire adult life has been spent on a fruitless quest to learn the meaning of yet another Lobdellism that was meant to be cool-sounding but but was actually utterly meaningless and vaguely annoying.

Really, it hasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is the "genetic marrow".  I've been wondering that for 13 years now.</p>
<p>Not all the time, of course.  Just off and on.  It's not like my entire adult life has been spent on a fruitless quest to learn the meaning of yet another Lobdellism that was meant to be cool-sounding but but was actually utterly meaningless and vaguely annoying.</p>
<p>Really, it hasn't.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gualtieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Gualtieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you need to follow up the Onslaught rumour. What you&#039;ve got there sounds good, especially with quotes from Lobdell, but ignores something rather important.

Uncanny #322 wasn&#039;t Onslaught&#039;s first appearence. He debuted in X-Men:Prime (written by Mark Waid IIRC)weeks earlier and attacked Mystique first, not the Juggernaut.

So where did the Prime appearence come from? Was it a late decision after Lobdell intrigued everyone with the idea of Onslaught?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you need to follow up the Onslaught rumour. What you've got there sounds good, especially with quotes from Lobdell, but ignores something rather important.</p>
<p>Uncanny #322 wasn't Onslaught's first appearence. He debuted in X-Men:Prime (written by Mark Waid IIRC)weeks earlier and attacked Mystique first, not the Juggernaut.</p>
<p>So where did the Prime appearence come from? Was it a late decision after Lobdell intrigued everyone with the idea of Onslaught?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they could only be killed by being stabbed in the heart so the eternal chandra put her heart in a necklace and then storm broke it and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they could only be killed by being stabbed in the heart so the eternal chandra put her heart in a necklace and then storm broke it and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Flint Paper</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-161017</link>
		<dc:creator>Flint Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to #12, I seem to recall that the full idea was that the X-ternals could only be killed if their heads &lt;i&gt;and all four limbs&lt;/i&gt; were cut off.  Which makes it TOTALLY original, natcherly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to #12, I seem to recall that the full idea was that the X-ternals could only be killed if their heads <i>and all four limbs</i> were cut off.  Which makes it TOTALLY original, natcherly.</p>
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		<title>By: Flush it all away</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flush it all away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emplate was short for Template? Was it really that hard to include the extra T? In honor of that reasoning, I think we should start calling this Omics Should be Good.

(Oh, and thanks for another great entry! Fridays wouldn&#039;t be Fridays without CBULR. Unless, of course, it&#039;s one of the times when it&#039;s published on Thursday. You get the point.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emplate was short for Template? Was it really that hard to include the extra T? In honor of that reasoning, I think we should start calling this Omics Should be Good.</p>
<p>(Oh, and thanks for another great entry! Fridays wouldn't be Fridays without CBULR. Unless, of course, it's one of the times when it's published on Thursday. You get the point.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-160903</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can only assume that Marvelâ€™s editorial powers were required to put their eyes in a blind trust during the 90s.&quot;

Ha ha! I think all that crosshatching would blind anybody... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I can only assume that Marvelâ€™s editorial powers were required to put their eyes in a blind trust during the 90s."</p>
<p>Ha ha! I think all that crosshatching would blind anybody... <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My god is there some horrible art on most of those coversâ€¦&quot;

I can only assume that Marvel&#039;s editorial powers were required to put their eyes in a blind trust during the 90s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"My god is there some horrible art on most of those coversâ€¦"</p>
<p>I can only assume that Marvel's editorial powers were required to put their eyes in a blind trust during the 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-160778</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god is there some horrible art on most of those covers...</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t there a rumor floating around about the time of the X-Ternals that they only could die when they were decapitated like in &quot;Highlander&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn't there a rumor floating around about the time of the X-Ternals that they only could die when they were decapitated like in "Highlander"?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Astheimer</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-160754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Astheimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to the St. Croix twins?</description>
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		<title>By: Daly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They went in with no idea who he really was and they ended up having to incorporate and subsequently kill the Avengers and FF. By all rights it should have been a colossal train wreck (kind of like the following yearâ€™s Operation Zero Tolerance).&quot; 

It&#039;s kinda cool that the x-office let all the books have their &quot;one issue&quot; of creative freedom. Their was probably alot of pressure from other companies doing crazy things and Marvel lagging behind. 

Yes-onslaught could have been much worse, since they didn&#039;t know what they were doing...but they came up with direction from artistic freedom. As opposed to O.Z.T. where  they had a clear direction and didn&#039;t have the freedom to have any real reprecussions. Marvel needed a &quot;get out of jail&quot; card for Onslaught, Operation Zero Tolerance- filtered out because the writers could not take risks.

And i&#039;m not talking about stupid risks like character death. My greatest memory of the X-Men is #66?? when you see Cyclops, Phoenix, Storm, Wolverine, and Cannonball neutralized/locked up with Bastion standing over Professor Xavier- telling him his dream is over. Underground X-Men is what I live for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"They went in with no idea who he really was and they ended up having to incorporate and subsequently kill the Avengers and FF. By all rights it should have been a colossal train wreck (kind of like the following yearâ€™s Operation Zero Tolerance)." </p>
<p>It's kinda cool that the x-office let all the books have their "one issue" of creative freedom. Their was probably alot of pressure from other companies doing crazy things and Marvel lagging behind. </p>
<p>Yes-onslaught could have been much worse, since they didn't know what they were doing...but they came up with direction from artistic freedom. As opposed to O.Z.T. where  they had a clear direction and didn't have the freedom to have any real reprecussions. Marvel needed a "get out of jail" card for Onslaught, Operation Zero Tolerance- filtered out because the writers could not take risks.</p>
<p>And i'm not talking about stupid risks like character death. My greatest memory of the X-Men is #66?? when you see Cyclops, Phoenix, Storm, Wolverine, and Cannonball neutralized/locked up with Bastion standing over Professor Xavier- telling him his dream is over. Underground X-Men is what I live for.</p>
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		<title>By: Kid Z</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/16/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-116/comment-page-1/#comment-160737</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeesh!  All that X-Men universe stuff from the 90s was so confusing it still makes my head ache when I think about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeesh!  All that X-Men universe stuff from the 90s was so confusing it still makes my head ache when I think about it!</p>
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		<title>By: V. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>V. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, i really need to read Generation X backissues</description>
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		<title>By: mrpingster</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrpingster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>madureira drew that cover.</description>
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