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8/24 – Suicidal Rabbit Says…

First Wendell Vaughn, now they have killed off the second-greatest Avenger in history(after Wendell, natch)!! Marvel must want me to end it all.

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I said this elsewhere, but I’m not above reusing material:

I think Giffen made a better artistic choice in killing her than Harras did in creating her.

I don’t read the Avengers titles…Which character are we talking about?

SPOILER WARNING!!

Deathcry was killed in this week’s issue of Starlord.

Deathcry was still alive?

I actually know someone who was really pissed about it. Hahah.

How do you know Bob Harras, Bill?

Tom Fitzpatrick

August 25, 2007 at 7:31 am

Soooo, why are you still alive?

Second-greatest Avenger?

Tell me D-Man’s still okay!

Whew. For a second there I thought Rage had bought it.

This is a sad day. Deathcry was surely one of the best Deathbird knockoffs that ever appeared in comics. Further proof that Quesada and company JUST DON’T GET IT.

Dont worry Wendell will be back! (thanks for the referral link!)

I wasn’t sure at first who you meant by the second-greatest Avenger. Thank god it was only Deathclaw! I was afraid it might have been Dr. Druid, Magdalene, or even… Silverclaw! I get faint just thinking about it.

Yeah, I know we joke (Lord knows I will)…but there’s someone out there who liked Deathcry. In fact, there’s someone out there for whom Deathcry was their favorite character, because they started reading comics in the 1990s before they had any taste, and Avengers was their favorite title back then, and they’ve had this love for the character ever since despite her obscurity…and her one appearance in the last ten years was to kill her off. Somewhere, a little part of someone’s joy in comics just died.

This is why I’m against the trend of gratuitous character deaths. Because everyone is someone’s favorite character. Everyone has some obscure character that almost never shows up in comics, but every time they do, it’s like Christmas that day. It’s one of the joys of being a comics fan, and it’s not wise for companies to kill that joy.

(That said, maybe these people can now transfer their enjoyment to the real Deathbird, instead of the lame 90s knock-off, and their favorite character will have a chance of actually showing up. Hey, I said I’d make fun…)

Um, what’s a Deathcry?

“It’s one of the joys of being a comics fan, and it’s not wise for companies to kill that joy.”

Especially since it is impossible and without precedence to undo a character’s death. I mean, it’s not like it’s been done before, or that there’s a race of walking plot devices or three to aid in that, if someone desperately wanted to revive this character most of the people presumably reading the comic she was killed in had never heard of.

Although I only snark about this because characters like Rocket Racer, the Puma, and Silver Sable have avoided the guillotine in these kinds of things. It’s all fun and games until someone kills off a second string Spider-Man character from the late ’80s/early ’90s whom I like! Also, does anyone else consider Deathbird so lame that the idea that she there was a derivative character of her out there causes them physical pain? ‘Cause it’s doing that to me.

Why didn’t Harras just use Deathbird anyway? He was editing the X-books, so it’s not like he couldn’t get permission. Not that I can imagine creators getting territorial about Deathbird anyway.

This was a haunting death that played wonderfully on the page. From the art to Captain Universe’s reaction and Starlord’s subsequant call to arms. Great death.

I would hope that people could get past their love for the character and appreciate the story.

Then again, a small part of me is still mad at Geoff Johns for wasting Jack Of Hearts and having him commit suicide.

I can defend any character given enough time, but Deathcry is too much effort by far.

Actually, I have a hard time imagining that anybody’s favorite character is Deathcry. I mean, if you’re attracted to any of the qualities of that character, there are plenty of other ones who appear more frequently, that have them all in spades.

Deathcry being your favorite character is kinda like The Fab Four (a Beatles cover band) being your favorite band.

Brad Curran said:

“Especially since it is impossible and without precedence to undo a character’s death. I mean, it’s not like it’s been done before, or that there’s a race of walking plot devices or three to aid in that, if someone desperately wanted to revive this character most of the people presumably reading the comic she was killed in had never heard of.”

To which I snark in kind:

Oh, gosh, I’d never thought of that! And certainly, constantly resurrecting characters doesn’t make fans more cynical about comic book death, necessitating ever-larger doses of gratuituous and pornographically violent deaths in order to get people to pay attention, only to have those deaths reversed as well, until nobody cares about any story anymore because if it turns out to be unpopular, they’ll just undo it later on. The constant wave of retcons and resurrections certainly isn’t jading an entire generation of comics fans. Kill away, I say! Kill away and bring back and kill away again! And then kill away again because even the other writers aren’t paying attention anymore and nobody noticed that the character you killed was killed before in a different issue!

Nobody stays dead in Marvel except Bucky.

I mean…

damn

Never mind.

Killing a Deathbird derivative character probably qualifies as Euthanasy anyway.

I mean, really… It was a character that only rarely appeared and nearly all of those rare appearances were in terrible stories where she wasn’t an important character anyway.

One has to draw the line SOMEWHERE after all…

1: Who’s Deathcry?
2: No one had better kill or Rocket Racer.

Maybe the next obscure death could be NFL Superpro. Do ya think there’d be an internet outcry on that one?

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