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Snark Free Corner for 9/3
Welcome to the latest installment of your breath of snark free air!
Enjoy!
COMMEMORATIVE COVERS!!
New bit!
Each one of these, I will show you folks all the "special" covers of a book's history, as it goes through the various anniversaries that books go through...
Daredevil is about to come out with its 100th issue of its current run, but before that happens, let's take a look at the past special events of Daredevil!
First off, the first issue...

Next, the 100th issue!

The 200th issue, with a cool cover by John Byrne, really isn't much in the way of making a big deal out of the two zeroes on the end, is it?

The 300th issue was a big deal, but poor Daredevil, he didn't even get a foil cover for his 300th issue!

The next "special" issue was the 325th issue...

Oddly enough, none of the 50s were special, but the 375th issue was sort of special...

Next, we have the 1st issue of the current run...

And then #65, which commemorates the 40th anniversary of Daredevil...

There ya go!
COVER THEME GAME
As always, here is the game. I show three covers. They all have something in common, whether it be a character, a trait all three characters share, locale, creator, SOMEthing. And it isn't something obvious like "They all have prices!" "They all have logos!" "They all feature a man!" etc.
In addition, please note that you must have some familiarity with comic book history to correctly guess these comics. You cannot guess the connective theme just by looking at the covers solely, you must have some knowledge beyond just the covers.
Good luck! A cool point to the first person to figure it out!
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SNARK FREE CHALLENGE
Which Beast do you like best - feline or ape-like?
THE COVER GAME
This week's game is as follows...
Quite simply, find me a cover with Eric Masterson on it.
Floating heads don't count!
For example, this Thor cover...

Remember, only one cover per commenter!
Good luck!
WHO IS IT?
Remember, tell me who it is and what number clue gave it away!
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4. This character, for a time, had fangs.
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5. This character once drew comic books for a living.
Who is it?
Well, that's it for this installment of Snark Free Corner.
Hope you had fun!
- Posted on September 3, 2007 @ 09:58 PM






31 Comments
Carlos Futino
September 4, 2007 at 5:08 am
Who is it: Captain America. Sadly, only got it with number 5
Filrouge
September 4, 2007 at 5:44 am
I'd say Captain America if I was not bothered by "this character is much stronger than normal human beings" while Cap is supposed to be just above olympic-level athletes human beings.
Matthew E
September 4, 2007 at 6:09 am
Well, olympic-level athletes are much stronger than normal human beings.
Captain America had fangs?
James
September 4, 2007 at 6:51 am
Matthew E -
Yep, in the very awful "Capwolf" storyline (which I don't think was the official title, but that's what it's always referred to by Cap fans. Just mention "Capwolf," and a fellow fan will nod their head and lament). It was a rare blemish on Mark Gruenwald's otherwise excellent work as a writer on the book.
James
September 4, 2007 at 7:03 am
This might be a stretch, but two of the stories in the Cover Challenge feature a sorcerer recruiting a team of magic-based followers (Dr. Strange in The Witches, Dr Druid in the Quasar story). I'm not sure if the Daredevil story fits that theme, though.
garbonzo
September 4, 2007 at 7:06 am
Ape Beast. Definitely Ape Beast. I think I would have been more receptive to Feline Beast had it not been one of the hundreds of revamps done on X-Characters all at the same time. Angel's blood has the power to heal? White Queen has a diamond form? Bishop has the ability to know exactly where he is on earth? There were too many more to count. It was too much.
M Bloom
September 4, 2007 at 7:28 am
Ape Beast by far. The appearance suited his name far better than the current one (especially since it was drawn with far more consistency than the feline form, which still seems to be a little shaky for some artists). If there's one thing I'm truly enjoying about the Endangered Species back-up strips (and there pretty much is only one thing about them I'm enjoying), it's seeing a version of Beast that actually looks like I want him to.
Cambert
September 4, 2007 at 7:40 am
Ape Beast by leaps and bounds. Originally Beast was human and fur-less. In this form he was ape like and it wasn't until he drank some formula that brought about the fur and claws. It seemed to me and still seems that his "secondary mutation" is more of an extension on his name and furry appearance rather than his original appearance and abilities. It would make more sense if the fur and claws WERE the secondary mutation brought upon by the formula he drank all those years ago. Really the feline form is a third mutation for poor Hank. Also they said his "secondary mutation" into feline form was some sort of de-evolution. De-evolve into a feline from a simian form? Huh? Wouldn't de-evolving be becoming MORE ape like and less, oh... becoming another species? Or is it genus? I slept through biology. Maybe if I didn't I'd understand this all better.
Jeff Albertson
September 4, 2007 at 8:14 am
cover theme: All feature characters with tattoos: Jennifer Kale (?) of the Witches, Mandrill's female army, and either Quasar or his girlfriend Kayla (?) wound up with the Starbrand.
Who is it: Cap with clue 5, but clue 5 did make me think of Sam Simeon from Angel and the Ape also. Any other recurring character in the comics who was a cartoonist?
Cover challenge: Thunderstrike 24 is the first that came to mind. Eric, we hardly knew you. http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=57701&zoom=4
Also, Daredevil 20 of the current run was the 400th issue, and did have a special story by STan Lee, Gene Colan and Tom Palmer. The cover wasn't super special, though it was nice.
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=85331&zoom=4
Pedro Bouça
September 4, 2007 at 8:31 am
Wow, this time I got Captain America on the very
first clue!
Cover game:
Thor #425
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=48660&zoom=4
The very best Eric Masterson cover!
Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)
yo go re
September 4, 2007 at 8:49 am
I was never a big fan of ape-like Beast, even though that's the way I most knew him. I mean, come on, he's Wolverine painted blue. Maybe if they'd worked to make his design more distinct before the switch (long before the switch) I'd be more anxious for him to return. To paraphrase a famous complaint, CATT NOT MUNKY!!
I do agree, though, that they need to decide what the cat Beast actually looks like, and hand that down to their artists...
Omar Karindu
September 4, 2007 at 8:53 am
All three covers feature characters co-created by Steve Gerber: Jennifer Kale, Mandrill, and the Living Mummy.
jazzbo
September 4, 2007 at 9:04 am
Hey, I got Captain America on the first guess! Lucky me.
Definitely prefer Ape-Beast. I just don't life the look of cat-beast.
jazzbo
September 4, 2007 at 9:05 am
LIKE the look. I don't like the look.
buttler
September 4, 2007 at 9:05 am
Dang! Omar got to it before I did. Yeah, they're all Gerber babies.
buttler
September 4, 2007 at 9:08 am
What, no love for the big-footed, otherwise human-looking Beast? But yeah, blue and apelike (Avengers era) all the way. I can't get used to the Beaty & the Best look and don't want to.
Jeff Albertson
September 4, 2007 at 9:09 am
I prefer the ape-like Beast, for the reasons Cambert mentioned, plus fond memories of the short-lived solo series that established that look.
Andrew Collins
September 4, 2007 at 9:47 am
I grew up on the Ape-Beast who pal'd around with Wonder Man in the Avengers. He was a lot of fun. But I have to say I've kind of warmed up to the Feline-Beast, especially when drawn by somebody like Frank Quitely or John Cassaday, who can do a good job of conveying the sleak features of a cat while not making it preposterous. It also helps when I imagine him speaking in the voice of Kelsey Grammar...
Patent Dragon
September 4, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Whenever I hear Beast mentioned, I think back to those heady days with George Perez drawing ape-Beast in AVENGERS, heading out into town with Wonder Man...
*sighs* Happy days.
Cassaday's cat-Beast is good, too, I must admit - and Kelsey Grammar as Beast was about the only good thing in X3 (IMHO)...
Patent Dragon
September 4, 2007 at 12:14 pm
When the term "many years ago" was used, I immediately started thinking of Anthro, or Moonboy, maybe Ikaris. Bit misleading, I'd say
David
September 4, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I like the commemorative cover collection -- I think it's interested when companies decide to promote or ignore any issue that's simply divisible by 25.
I guess with Amazing Spider-Man going to 3x month, it should surpass FF pretty quickly as Marvel's highest-numbered title and be the first Marvel title to hit #600. Heck, Spidey could even catch up with Batman or Superman before long. (Although he'd have awhile before catching up with Action or Detective.)
Rusty Priske
September 4, 2007 at 1:04 pm
I got Cap on the first clue!
Ape-beast. Easy. The new one just looks silly.
John Seavey
September 4, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Ape-Beast, one of the all-time classic character designs, a sheer joy to look at, vs. Cat-Beast, which looks like ass. Hmm. Let me think. Yeah, going to go with Ape-Beast. (And yes, Cat-Beast is supposed to look like ass. It was part of Morrison's character arc for the Beast in his run on the series. The same can be said about the "Iron Spider" costume. Doesn't mean it has to stick around forever.)
And does anyone other than me just love the sheer, unadulterated hucksterism of that first Daredevil comic? Putting both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four on the cover, just because the same people published them? Classic Stan Lee.
Apodaca
September 4, 2007 at 2:44 pm
I don't really care what animal the Beast resembles, but the transformation into the cat form was good for him, and I prefer for him to look furhter away from humanity.
His hair in the ape-form was really ugly, though.
acespot
September 4, 2007 at 2:49 pm
I hope that the endangered species storyline will end up bringing back ape beast. Although Cassaday draws stupid cat very nicely. Ang yes, Grammer was the only redeeming factor in X3. And did you hear that Goyer has been attached to Magneto now, too? Great! Three crappy movies to look backwards to (what's the actual antonym for look forwards?)! Superman, Wolverine, Magneto. Goddammit.
Apodaca
September 4, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Yuo guys must have really hated X3, 'cause Kelsey Grammar stunk up the joint like a turd in the summertime.
Colossus 2000
September 4, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Ape Beast... When I first started reading X-Men it was all about Colossus and Longhsot and Gateway and stuff, so my first real encounter with Beast was the X-Men cartoon. And when I hear Beast talk, that is the voice I hear...
While I like his character in the Avengers, I don't care for the way he was drawn back then. I much prefer the early 90's style, with big hair and sideburns. Bachalo did a great Beast, as did Mad and Larocca.
Beast is still one of my all time favourite Marvel characters, so I am warming up to Cat Beast, but when I picture him, I see the classic furball.
PS. The best version of Cat Beast was in Power Pack / X-Men, which also showed Cyclops new costume in the best representation I have seen.
DanLarkin
September 4, 2007 at 7:45 pm
I'd say Cat-Beast if Quitely or Cassaday are drawing him. Unfortunately, when anyone else draws him, he looks ridiculous.
Daly
September 4, 2007 at 10:11 pm
CAT BEAST FOREVER.
One positive note about the feline McCoy- look at how much play time he has in the comics, he's in as many comics (or maybe more) as Wolverine! The transformation made the character the x-men icon in writers eyes.
Cambert kind of opens himself up to criticism by saying Beasts premise is supposed to be "devolving". This was a dramatic plot line established by Morrison and picked up by Whedon.
"Devolving" is supposed to be how Hank feels.
If Marvel Comics truly devolves Beast into an ape form then it will prove that they disagree with risk, fun, and new ideas; regardless of an opportune plot device or not.
Marvel should treat new designs how they would "like" to treat character deaths- by suggesting fans go back and look at the hundreds of previous appearances of the character if they enjoyed that version so much.
It's cool because I'm apart of a different generation of Marvel fans. I watched the t.v. series X-Men, and I read them when I was a kid.
I just loved feline Beast from Quitely that I automaticaly think that any artist that draws him afterwards is trying to live up to that- even if they don't make it.
The BEST part of Quitely's design? The legs. Go back and look at them. They looked like cat legs and bent backwards. I wish that a writer would pick up on the original design and have Hank bend his legs backwards like a feral cat and then just mention that he never uses them like he's supposed to.
John Seavey
September 5, 2007 at 5:37 am
Might I respectfully point out to Marvel that I already own the previous hundreds of appearances, but I do not own the comics they are trying to sell me? If they don't want my money, of course, they can continue doing it "their way", but I have a pretty strong suspicion that they do want my money, and as such, I feel free to impose conditions upon its delivery.
Such as, purely as a hypothetical example, using a character design that is elegant, classic (in all senses of the word), evocative, and unique, rather than one that is ugly, awkward, and that ninety percent of their artists can't seem to draw properly.
Just, y'know, as an example. (And no, I'm not boycotting Marvel until they fix the Beast's look. But it is symptomatic of the prima donna-esque belief at Marvel that the opinions of their customers don't matter.)
Brian Cronin
November 21, 2007 at 1:26 am
Correct, Omar!