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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-316477</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, Omar!</description>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-184201</link>
		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I respectfully point out to Marvel that I already own the previous hundreds of appearances, but I do not own the comics they are trying to sell me? If they don&#039;t want my money, of course, they can continue doing it &quot;their way&quot;, but I have a pretty strong suspicion that they do want my money, and as such, I feel free to impose conditions upon its delivery.

Such as, purely as a hypothetical example, using a character design that is elegant, classic (in all senses of the word), evocative, and unique, rather than one that is ugly, awkward, and that ninety percent of their artists can&#039;t seem to draw properly.

Just, y&#039;know, as an example. (And no, I&#039;m not boycotting Marvel until they fix the Beast&#039;s look. But it is symptomatic of the prima donna-esque belief at Marvel that the opinions of their customers don&#039;t matter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I respectfully point out to Marvel that I already own the previous hundreds of appearances, but I do not own the comics they are trying to sell me? If they don't want my money, of course, they can continue doing it "their way", but I have a pretty strong suspicion that they do want my money, and as such, I feel free to impose conditions upon its delivery.</p>
<p>Such as, purely as a hypothetical example, using a character design that is elegant, classic (in all senses of the word), evocative, and unique, rather than one that is ugly, awkward, and that ninety percent of their artists can't seem to draw properly.</p>
<p>Just, y'know, as an example. (And no, I'm not boycotting Marvel until they fix the Beast's look. But it is symptomatic of the prima donna-esque belief at Marvel that the opinions of their customers don't matter.)</p>
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		<title>By: Daly</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183738</link>
		<dc:creator>Daly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAT BEAST FOREVER.



One positive note about the feline McCoy- look at how much play time he has in the comics, he&#039;s in as many comics (or maybe more) as Wolverine! The transformation made the character the x-men icon in writers eyes. 

Cambert kind of opens himself up to criticism by saying Beasts premise is supposed to be &quot;devolving&quot;. This was a dramatic plot line established by Morrison and picked up by Whedon.

&quot;Devolving&quot; is supposed to be how Hank feels.

If Marvel Comics truly devolves Beast into an ape form then it will prove that they disagree with risk, fun, and new ideas; regardless of an opportune plot device or not. 

Marvel should treat new designs how they would &quot;like&quot; to treat character deaths- by suggesting fans go back and look at the hundreds of previous appearances of the character if they enjoyed that version so much.

It&#039;s cool because I&#039;m apart of a different generation of Marvel fans. I watched the t.v. series X-Men, and I read them when I was a kid. 

I just loved feline Beast from Quitely that I automaticaly think that any artist that draws him afterwards is trying to live up to that- even if they don&#039;t make it.

The BEST part of Quitely&#039;s design? The legs. Go back and look at them. They looked like cat legs and bent backwards. I wish that a writer would pick up on the original design and have Hank bend his legs backwards like a feral cat and then just mention that he never uses them like he&#039;s supposed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAT BEAST FOREVER.</p>
<p>One positive note about the feline McCoy- look at how much play time he has in the comics, he's in as many comics (or maybe more) as Wolverine! The transformation made the character the x-men icon in writers eyes. </p>
<p>Cambert kind of opens himself up to criticism by saying Beasts premise is supposed to be "devolving". This was a dramatic plot line established by Morrison and picked up by Whedon.</p>
<p>"Devolving" is supposed to be how Hank feels.</p>
<p>If Marvel Comics truly devolves Beast into an ape form then it will prove that they disagree with risk, fun, and new ideas; regardless of an opportune plot device or not. </p>
<p>Marvel should treat new designs how they would "like" to treat character deaths- by suggesting fans go back and look at the hundreds of previous appearances of the character if they enjoyed that version so much.</p>
<p>It's cool because I'm apart of a different generation of Marvel fans. I watched the t.v. series X-Men, and I read them when I was a kid. </p>
<p>I just loved feline Beast from Quitely that I automaticaly think that any artist that draws him afterwards is trying to live up to that- even if they don't make it.</p>
<p>The BEST part of Quitely's design? The legs. Go back and look at them. They looked like cat legs and bent backwards. I wish that a writer would pick up on the original design and have Hank bend his legs backwards like a feral cat and then just mention that he never uses them like he's supposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: DanLarkin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183485</link>
		<dc:creator>DanLarkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say Cat-Beast if Quitely or Cassaday are drawing him. Unfortunately, when anyone else draws him, he looks ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd say Cat-Beast if Quitely or Cassaday are drawing him. Unfortunately, when anyone else draws him, he looks ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus 2000</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183328</link>
		<dc:creator>Colossus 2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ape Beast... When I first started reading X-Men it was all about Colossus and Longhsot and Gateway and stuff, so my first real encounter with Beast was the X-Men cartoon. And when I hear Beast talk, that is the voice I hear...

While I like his character in the Avengers, I don&#039;t care for the way he was drawn back then. I much prefer the early 90&#039;s style, with big hair and sideburns. Bachalo did a great Beast, as did Mad and Larocca. 

Beast is still one of my all time favourite Marvel characters, so I am warming up to Cat Beast, but when I picture him, I see the classic furball. 

PS. The best version of Cat Beast was in Power Pack / X-Men, which also showed Cyclops new costume in the best representation I have seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ape Beast... When I first started reading X-Men it was all about Colossus and Longhsot and Gateway and stuff, so my first real encounter with Beast was the X-Men cartoon. And when I hear Beast talk, that is the voice I hear...</p>
<p>While I like his character in the Avengers, I don't care for the way he was drawn back then. I much prefer the early 90's style, with big hair and sideburns. Bachalo did a great Beast, as did Mad and Larocca. </p>
<p>Beast is still one of my all time favourite Marvel characters, so I am warming up to Cat Beast, but when I picture him, I see the classic furball. </p>
<p>PS. The best version of Cat Beast was in Power Pack / X-Men, which also showed Cyclops new costume in the best representation I have seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183315</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuo guys must have really hated X3, &#039;cause Kelsey Grammar stunk up the joint like a turd in the summertime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuo guys must have really hated X3, 'cause Kelsey Grammar stunk up the joint like a turd in the summertime.</p>
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		<title>By: acespot</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183275</link>
		<dc:creator>acespot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that the endangered species storyline will end up bringing back ape beast.  Although Cassaday draws stupid cat very nicely.  Ang yes, Grammer was the only redeeming factor in X3.  And did you hear that Goyer has been attached to Magneto now, too?  Great!  Three crappy movies to look backwards to (what&#039;s the actual antonym for look forwards?)!  Superman, Wolverine, Magneto.  Goddammit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that the endangered species storyline will end up bringing back ape beast.  Although Cassaday draws stupid cat very nicely.  Ang yes, Grammer was the only redeeming factor in X3.  And did you hear that Goyer has been attached to Magneto now, too?  Great!  Three crappy movies to look backwards to (what's the actual antonym for look forwards?)!  Superman, Wolverine, Magneto.  Goddammit.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really care what animal the Beast resembles, but the transformation into the cat form was good for him, and I prefer for him to look furhter away from humanity.

His hair in the ape-form was really ugly, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't really care what animal the Beast resembles, but the transformation into the cat form was good for him, and I prefer for him to look furhter away from humanity.</p>
<p>His hair in the ape-form was really ugly, though.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183262</link>
		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ape-Beast, one of the all-time classic character designs, a sheer joy to look at, vs. Cat-Beast, which looks like ass. Hmm. Let me think. Yeah, going to go with Ape-Beast. (And yes, Cat-Beast is supposed to look like ass. It was part of Morrison&#039;s character arc for the Beast in his run on the series. The same can be said about the &quot;Iron Spider&quot; costume. Doesn&#039;t mean it has to stick around forever.)

And does anyone other than me just love the sheer, unadulterated hucksterism of that first Daredevil comic? Putting both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four on the cover, just because the same people published them? Classic Stan Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ape-Beast, one of the all-time classic character designs, a sheer joy to look at, vs. Cat-Beast, which looks like ass. Hmm. Let me think. Yeah, going to go with Ape-Beast. (And yes, Cat-Beast is supposed to look like ass. It was part of Morrison's character arc for the Beast in his run on the series. The same can be said about the "Iron Spider" costume. Doesn't mean it has to stick around forever.)</p>
<p>And does anyone other than me just love the sheer, unadulterated hucksterism of that first Daredevil comic? Putting both Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four on the cover, just because the same people published them? Classic Stan Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Priske</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183125</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Priske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got Cap on the first clue!

Ape-beast. Easy. The new one just looks silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got Cap on the first clue!</p>
<p>Ape-beast. Easy. The new one just looks silly.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183071</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the commemorative cover collection -- I think it&#039;s interested when companies decide to promote or ignore any issue that&#039;s simply divisible by 25. 

I guess with Amazing Spider-Man going to 3x month, it should surpass FF pretty quickly as Marvel&#039;s highest-numbered title and be the first Marvel title to hit #600. Heck, Spidey could even catch up with Batman or Superman before long. (Although he&#039;d have awhile before catching up with Action or Detective.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the commemorative cover collection -- I think it's interested when companies decide to promote or ignore any issue that's simply divisible by 25. </p>
<p>I guess with Amazing Spider-Man going to 3x month, it should surpass FF pretty quickly as Marvel's highest-numbered title and be the first Marvel title to hit #600. Heck, Spidey could even catch up with Batman or Superman before long. (Although he'd have awhile before catching up with Action or Detective.)</p>
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		<title>By: Patent Dragon</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-183061</link>
		<dc:creator>Patent Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the term &quot;many years ago&quot; was used, I immediately started thinking of Anthro, or Moonboy, maybe Ikaris. Bit misleading, I&#039;d say :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the term "many years ago" was used, I immediately started thinking of Anthro, or Moonboy, maybe Ikaris. Bit misleading, I'd say <img src='http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patent Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patent Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I hear Beast mentioned, I think back to those heady days with George Perez drawing ape-Beast in AVENGERS, heading out into town with Wonder Man...

*sighs* Happy days.

Cassaday&#039;s cat-Beast is good, too, I must admit - and Kelsey Grammar as Beast was about the only good thing in X3 (IMHO)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I hear Beast mentioned, I think back to those heady days with George Perez drawing ape-Beast in AVENGERS, heading out into town with Wonder Man...</p>
<p>*sighs* Happy days.</p>
<p>Cassaday's cat-Beast is good, too, I must admit - and Kelsey Grammar as Beast was about the only good thing in X3 (IMHO)...</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Collins</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/03/snark-free-corner-for-93/comment-page-1/#comment-182950</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up on the Ape-Beast who pal&#039;d around with Wonder Man in the Avengers. He was a lot of fun. But I have to say I&#039;ve kind of warmed up to the Feline-Beast, especially when drawn by somebody like Frank Quitely or John Cassaday, who can do a good job of conveying the sleak features of a cat while not making it preposterous. It also helps when I imagine him speaking in the voice of Kelsey Grammar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up on the Ape-Beast who pal'd around with Wonder Man in the Avengers. He was a lot of fun. But I have to say I've kind of warmed up to the Feline-Beast, especially when drawn by somebody like Frank Quitely or John Cassaday, who can do a good job of conveying the sleak features of a cat while not making it preposterous. It also helps when I imagine him speaking in the voice of Kelsey Grammar...</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Albertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Albertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the ape-like Beast, for the reasons Cambert mentioned, plus fond memories of the short-lived solo series that established that look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the ape-like Beast, for the reasons Cambert mentioned, plus fond memories of the short-lived solo series that established that look.</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
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		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, no love for the big-footed, otherwise human-looking Beast?  But yeah, blue and apelike (Avengers era) all the way.  I can&#039;t get used to the Beaty &amp; the Best look and don&#039;t want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, no love for the big-footed, otherwise human-looking Beast?  But yeah, blue and apelike (Avengers era) all the way.  I can't get used to the Beaty &amp; the Best look and don't want to.</p>
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		<title>By: buttler</title>
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		<dc:creator>buttler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang! Omar got to it before I did.  Yeah, they&#039;re all Gerber babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang! Omar got to it before I did.  Yeah, they're all Gerber babies.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIKE the look. I don&#039;t like the look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIKE the look. I don't like the look.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I got Captain America on the first guess! Lucky me.

Definitely prefer Ape-Beast. I just don&#039;t life the look of cat-beast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I got Captain America on the first guess! Lucky me.</p>
<p>Definitely prefer Ape-Beast. I just don't life the look of cat-beast.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All three covers feature characters co-created by Steve Gerber: Jennifer Kale, Mandrill, and the Living Mummy.</description>
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