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X-Men Disassembled? My Interest...It Is Piqued

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  • Posted on September 7, 2007 @ 02:20 PM

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It's kind of weird to me that they're using the "Disassembled" subtitle on another property.

It would've made more sense if they had used "Disassembled" closer to the Avengers event and made it seem more like...well, I hate to say it, but a universe-wide event thing> Now, it just looks like they're sort of desperate. "Hey, it worked for Avengers a few years ago! We'll give it a try!"

As dumb as it is to bring that logo back, the X-Men actually ARE in desperate need of being disassembled, so I suppose it works.

Yes, yes, YESSSSS!!!!
Finally, an end to those X-books.

Yes, yes, YESSSSS!!!!

Oh, happy days are here again! ;-)

Wasn't it called Disassembled because their battle-cry was Avengers Assemble?

The closest thing the X-men have (and its hardly ever used anymore) is "X-men Emergency". Disassembled doesn't really work too well here.

My immediate thought: "Oh, for f***'s sake."

Reading Marvel nowadays is like hanging around the kid down the block whose parents were really rich, and so they bought him all the cool toys...you all knew a kid like that, right? Only he didn't really care about any of it, because his parents bought him whatever he wanted, so he'd just break it, just because he could. And so you'd have to watch as someone broke all the cool toys because they thought it was more fun than actually playing with them.

Your interest is pretty fucking easy, Brian.

John Seavey,
Your ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

What a blatant tug at your wallet.

I hate to pile on the Dread Lord and Master, because his Omega Beams can find me even though he's in New York and I'm in Arizona (those are some scary Omega Beams!), but didn't Claremont do this when he destroyed the team, "killed" the X-Men, and sent them to Australia? And doesn't Brian HATE that era of the X-Men? What's the deal, Dread Lord and Master?

Color me disintereted. Though a massive reboot of some sort may be just what this franchise needs. Something that doesn't involve space travel, time travel, or alternate dimension clones/children. Just get back to the basics people, like Morrison was trying to do a few years back.

Jay the 1 letter wonder

September 7, 2007 at 5:05 pm

This does sound even worse than the dreck that was Avengers:Disassembled.I was never a big fan of the Avengers and that series did not help to draw me into the book.That said as long as they don't drag in astonishing or X-factor (the only marvel books I read regularly anyways) in it won't matter to me and definitely won't get my dollars. I swear sometimes I honestly think Joey Q does not want my money and is intentionally trying to get me to stop buying marvel comics.Which wouldn't be so bad if the Distinguished Competion wasn't trying even harder to get my to stop buying their comics.

Hey, look, there's armor, from Joss Wheden's run on Astonishing X-men. Future leader of the X-men in that evil alternate future from Runaways where Victor Mancha kills everybody.

Huh.

SanctumSanctorumComix

September 7, 2007 at 5:21 pm

GAH!

I had just seen that teaser image just before coming to this site, and immediately thought; "ugh".

THIS, especially in the day of TPB marketing, smacks of an subliminal linking to the AVENGERS: DISASSEMBLED "event".

Bad show, Marvel.

NOT that is would be relevant to the actual upcoming story-arc, but... a better image and catch-phrase would have been for it to be PROFESSOR X being sucked into a black hole (or something equally "permanent") and he is uttering those famous words:

"TO ME, MY X-MEN!"
"TO DIE... MY X-MEN"

or something to that extent.
Whatever.

But, the X-universe is in dire NEED of a culling and reboot.

~P~
P-TOR

A word of advice to the X-Men when dealing with this latest event:

If, for some reason, one of you happens to be wearing a quiver and it suddenly catches fire, TAKE IT OFF.

SanctumSanctorumComix

September 7, 2007 at 5:27 pm

HAhaha...

Nightcrawler screaming:

"Nein. Nein. Nicht so! Nicht so!"

BOOM!

~P~

SanctumSanctorumComix

September 7, 2007 at 5:31 pm

hmmm.... English to German translation went a bit wonky.

That needs more of a punch.

German...german...

OK.

"Nein! Nein! Nicht auf diese Weise! Nicht auf diese Weise!"

There.
MUCH better!

~P~

*laughs* still awesome, either way

This reminds me of when Kurt Busiek did Avengers Forever... and suddenly we had to have the far inferior X-Men Forever

Damn Mr. Seavey...

You win.

Really, so long as this doesn't lead to Uncanny X-Men ending and being replaced with a new title at #1, I don't really care much what happens. The X-books have been stuck without a direction since Morrison left, so anything that might change that is worth trying (especially since Brubaker and Carey might actually follow up on it, unlike the writers who were around when they tried the Decimation thing).

"THIS, especially in the day of TPB marketing, smacks of an subliminal linking to the AVENGERS: DISASSEMBLED “event”."

Subliminal?

John Seavey: "My immediate thought: 'Oh, for f***’s sake.'

"Reading Marvel nowadays is like hanging around the kid down the block whose parents were really rich, and so they bought him all the cool toys…you all knew a kid like that, right? Only he didn’t really care about any of it, because his parents bought him whatever he wanted, so he’d just break it, just because he could. And so you’d have to watch as someone broke all the cool toys because they thought it was more fun than actually playing with them. "

John, you do realize that if you keep this up, you and me are going to have to hang out, right? :-D

You know what's funny? I was just thinking to myself: well...there isn't a lot I'm enjoying from Marvel right now...but at least I'm enjoying the X-Men! AND I'm actually looking forward to "Messiah Complex," too!

The only thing I could add after that is - WHATEVER this image is meant to tease, if it is handled by people who KNOW what the X-Men are about, and have experience handling the characters and storylines and motivations, and handling them WELL, then maybe I can get behind this.

But, if it's handed off to somebody who doesn't know the first thing about the X-Men and their world, but is just getting the nod because they're a popular writer right now - Let's call this the "Bendis Maneuver" - then I reserve the right to complain and critique the holy hell out of this "event."

But yeah...John - holla at your boy. You too, K-Box. LOL

Subliminal?

Yeah, that confused me as well.

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where the Navy recruiter talks about their three-pronged ad campaign: subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.

"Hey, you! Join the Navy!"

To the best of my knowledge, Uncanny is one of the few (if not only) main Marvel title that hasn't been renumbered. I REALLY hope they don't break that record.

If it leads to another GLA Misassembled book I'm all for it. GLX Misassembled!

Apparently they are doing more "House of M" stuff, so why not do some more Disassemled titles?

You know its nice to see Armor, but I'm also happy to see Angel doing something for the first time in like 3 years (save WWHulk)

I hate to pile on the Dread Lord and Master, because his Omega Beams can find me even though he’s in New York and I’m in Arizona (those are some scary Omega Beams!), but didn’t Claremont do this when he destroyed the team, “killed” the X-Men, and sent them to Australia? And doesn’t Brian HATE that era of the X-Men? What’s the deal, Dread Lord and Master?

I honestly don't recall ever discussing that era of the X-Men here.

Oh wait a sec, the Australia stuff? Yeah, I may have mentioned that before (I don't recall, but I can see it) But that wasn't disassembled, was it?

The disassembled stuff was after the Siege Perilous, and that was some good comics.

The X-Men have historically "disassembled," whether it be the time when the X-Men were thought dead after their fight against Magneto, or when they split up post-Siege Perilous or when they broke up for a short period of time during Alan Davis' run.

Most of the time, "X-Men on the run" has been a great story. One of Lobdell's best arcs was "X-Men on the run," when Iceman, Marrow, Cecilia Reyes and Sabra were the X-Men.

And remember, this is gonna be by Warren Ellis, who is awesome.

I've been anticipating something like this since early on in the X-position interviews where everyone was generally evasive about what their plans for their titles were post-Messiah CompleX.

I'm uncertain about where this is leading, and the fact that Mike Carey's X-Men is probably going to end or get canceled so he can write the solo maxiseries he mentioned on Newsarama doesn't exactly fill me with anticipation, but I have faith in Carey to at least spin a good story out of this.

It's a little disappointing that they're doing this massive reorganization right when the X-franchise is in the best state it's been in years, but hopefully most of the current creative teams will stay on board in some capacity.

"To the best of my knowledge, Uncanny is one of the few (if not only) main Marvel title that hasn’t been renumbered. I REALLY hope they don’t break that record."

It's pretty much just Uncanny and Amazing Spider-Man. That's why I'm scared that Marvel will end the existing titles and launch new ones like they did with Avengers.

Amazing Spider-Man has been renumbered, but then they went back to the old numbering. I agree with the earlier poster that as far as I know, UXM is the only Marvel title not to have been renumbered at all, even after the wilderness reprint years. It has technically been renamed, though.

And remember, this is gonna be by Warren Ellis, who is awesome.

I did not know that. Now, my interest is piqued.

The X-books have been floundering ever since Decimation, which they clearly entered into without any coherent plan of what to do next. (Er... let's spend a year in space!) And sales have been down quite noticeably over the last couple of years.

Frankly, they desperately need a scorched-earth relaunch, although given how badly Marvel botched Decimation, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they now came up with something even more useless.

Are you insane, Brian? The stuff after the Siege Perilous was fucking terrible.

Oh, dear. Marvel is promoting one of their franchises in a way that immediately has everyone talking about it. How positively evil of them.

I'd guess that "Disassembled" is going to be a banner that'll be on the books after the re-shuffling of characters, creators and titles at the end of Messiah Complex. (My bet is on a bi-weekly Uncanny X-Men by Carey and Brubaker. I'm hoping X-Factor and New X-Men escape in their current form.)

Michael said:
"Are you insane, Brian? The stuff after the Siege Perilous was fucking terrible."

Agreed. It was certainly the beginning of the end for me and the X-books. The X-Tinction Agenda crossover was the final straw, though I have been sucked back in a little recently by Peter David's wonderful X-Factor and Whedon & Cassaday's Astonishing X-Men.

Frankly, they desperately need a scorched-earth relaunch

Agreed, which is why the fact that THEY seem to admit as much has piqued my interest.

X-Tinction Agenda was bad, but only because it crossed over with the other books.

Claremont/Lee was the best the X-Books had been since Claremont/JRjr.

Urgh, a Warren Ellis reboot. Guaranteed to throw out all the interesting stuff and replace it with stilted dialogue, the lastest New Scientist theory and smoking. Wonderful.

The Stormwatch reboot was one of the best reboots I've seen in comics.

"Frankly, they desperately need a scorched-earth relaunch

Agreed, which is why the fact that THEY seem to admit as much has piqued my interest."

At this point, they'd pique my interest more by going a year on anything without needing a scorched-earth relaunch.

The Indestructible Man

September 9, 2007 at 4:06 pm

I doubt Disassembled is going to be used in whatever actually happens -- rather, the logo is used on the teaser as it uses the reference to the Avengers as a shorthand.

At this point, they’d pique my interest more by going a year on anything without needing a scorched-earth relaunch.

Like Paul alluded to, yes, it would have been better if this WASN'T needed, but I think it is needed, so better that they actually do it than not, and let the books drift aimlessly like they have since Decimation.

Like Paul alluded to, yes, it would have been better if this WASN’T needed, but I think it is needed, so better that they actually do it than not, and let the books drift aimlessly like they have since Decimation.

I suppose, but both Marvel and DC need to get past the idea that the best way to handle large-scale changes is to cram everything that needs to be done into one mini-series, surround it with a bunch of tie-ins, and hope that the scope of the event will mask the plot holes that crop up.

I'll be very happy if I ever see something like this get done properly, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Normally I'd agree, but the X-books have written themselves into a corner which they simply HAVE to get out of at any cost. And if they can't come up with a killer storyline that doesn't seem like a cop-out, then for the longer term health of the franchise, they're better off just biting the bullet, doing the cop-out and getting it over with.

The fundamental problem with M-Day is that it negates the premise of the series. If there are no more mutants to be discovered, and mutants aren't going to be the next evolutionary step... then what's the series about? A handful of characters waiting to die in futility? Not only have the books failed to provide a convincing answer to that question, but they haven't even TRIED to answer it. It's a hideous botch job and at this stage there's nothing for it but reversal.

If the X-books adapted a similar approach to 'Brand New Day' and released Uncanny X-men two or three times a month, on a relatively stand-alone basis, I would absolutely buy it. I'd like mutants to be reinstated as the next evolutionary step, too, but whatever.

The Stormwatch reboot was one of the best reboots I’ve seen in comics.

Oh yeah. That was fantastic....
(Goddamn facts getting in the way of a hate-filled rant!)

I must still be pissed off that he killed Synch. I miss Generation X....

I must still be pissed off that he killed Synch. I miss Generation X….

Yeah, that was a bit annoying.

My pal Jake suggested that perhaps Synch could be Night Thrasher in the current New Warriors series.

There are few characters that would be easier to resurrect than Synch, a guy whose power was to mimic other people's powers, hmmmm...like, perhaps, Wolverine's healing powers!?

And if they can’t come up with a killer storyline that doesn’t seem like a cop-out, then for the longer term health of the franchise, they’re better off just biting the bullet, doing the cop-out and getting it over with.

Agreed.

Back when One More Day was first announced (which was, what, twelve years ago? Feels like it), or maybe even before, when Quesada was just talking about how bad the marriage was, I argued that, if you think a book really needs a change THAT badly, just make the change, even if you have to do it with a stupid storyline like Avengers Disassembled. People WILL eventually forget about it, and then you'll have the changes you want.

Guaranteed to throw out all the interesting stuff and replace it with stilted dialogue, the lastest New Scientist theory and smoking.

The All-New, All-Smoker X-Men would get five subscriptions from me.

When was it announced that Ellis was involved, incidentally? I was looking forward to picking up his Astonishing run, but not if it ends up being part of some major, huge, life-changing, wallet-consuming crossover. Of course, if the end result of this crossover is to make the X-books more streamlined, that'd be cool.

Ellis on X-Men, Millar on FF, Slott on Spidey... 2008 is going to be kick-ass.

Come to think of it, the idea of Mutants as an evolutionary step has always been more than a bit silly. I don't miss it at all.

Yes, M-Day basically means that mutants aren't viable as a new/separate species. So what? That makes them all the more unique, doesn't it?

Am I the only one to think, if Banshee shows up as an exploding zombie in the first issue of this and takes out Iceman, I'm out?

No, Chuck, I think that is a fair cut-off point. :)

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