CBI Archive
Top 50 DC Characters #50-46
Wednesday, September 12th, 2007 at 8:54 PM EST
Updated: Friday, September 14th, 2007 at 2:23 AM EST
Here goes! The countdown begins….now!
50. The Huntress (Helena Rosa Bertinelli - 115 points, Helena Wayne - 29 points, they split 2 first place votes) - 144 points (2 first place votes)
The Huntress was created by Paul Levitz, Joe Staton and Bob Layton. She was the daughter of the Earth-2 Batman and the Earth-2 Catwoman, who had a child who, naturally enough, became a gifted athlete, and later a crimefighter (not to mention a lawyer) when her mother was killed by some bad guys.
The Huntress joined up with the Justice Society of America, but died during Crisis on Infinite Earths.
After Crisis, a new version of the Huntress was introduced, in a series by Joey Cavalieri and Joe Station, where we meet Helena Bertinelli, the daughter of a mafia crime boss, who was murdered along with Helena’s mother when Helena was a child.
She vowed revenge, and when she grown up (and a schoolteacher), she began taking her revenge.
She worked in New York City for awhile (and even was a member of the Justice League for a little bit!) before moving to Gotham City, where she took up her war on crime once again, putting her into conflict, though, with the Batman. The two had an uneasy relationship, with Batman never really giving her his blessing, even as he eventually sponsored her for membership in a newer incarnation of the Justice League (which he withdrew when she almost killed the villain, Prometheus).
Huntress eventually became an operative of Oracle, becoming one of her “Birds of Prey,” which is where she currently appears.
Here is what Andrew Collins (who her #1 on his ballot) has to say about her:
How could I not love the kickass offspring of Batman and Catwoman? Growing up, I loved her adventures in the pages of Wonder Woman, thanks mostly to her intriguing back story and fantastic costume design. The modern redo of her origin takes away that special element of who her parents were, but I feel like she has remained a compelling character thanks to the work of writers like Greg Rucka and Gail Simone. Her costumes and designs have gotten even better over the years, too.
Thanks, Andrew!
49. Mister Miracle (Scott Free) - 147 points
Mister Miracle was a creation of Jack Kirby, as part of his Fourth World line of comic books.
Scott Free was the son of Highfather, the leader of New Genesis, but as a part of a truce, was swapped with the son of evil Darkseid, leader of Apokolips. Scott grew up on the wretched planet, Apokolips, with his heritage unknown to him. He eventually grew to despise Darkseid, and began to rebel against the tyrant’s regime (it was here that he met his future bride, Big Barda).
Free escaped to Earth (which nullified the truce, just as Darkseid had planned it all along), where he apprenticed to an escape artist named Mister Miracle (Thaddeus Brown). Brown was murdered, leaving Scott to take up the name and the costume (although refitted with technology from New Genesis).
Eventually, Barda escaped as well, and the two were married.
Scott was a member of the Justice League for a number of years, and became a world-famous escape artist.
Since then, Scott has basically just been living married life on Earth with his bride, Barda, who has been working as a “Bird of Prey” for Oracle.
Here is what Luke Z. had to say about Scott Free (Luke had Scott second on his list, Scott’s highest placing):
The first time I ever heard of Mr. Miracle was when I saw his action figure in the Super Powers toy line in the ’80s. They had little bios of the characters on the back of the packages, and when I saw that his power was that he was the world’s greatest escape artist, I just thought it was so cool. I think it was the first time I’d seen a superhero character whose unique abilities were non-combat-based, and from then on whenever I made up my own characters, there would always be one who was more useful out of a fight than in, so I’ll always have a soft spot for him for getting my young imagination going in my formative years. Plus, if Batman was the hero that showed kids that you didn’t have to have powers to be a hero, Mr. Miracle was the one that showed us that you didn’t have to be filthy rich and able to kick everyone’s butt either - just find the one thing you’re really good at and you too can be a superhero!
The next time I saw him was on the Giffen-DeMattheis Justice League - the first DC comic I ever followed regularly after being a Marvel fan for a few years - where he was always portrayed as being such a nice guy that he and the Martian Manhunter were the only members of the team that everyone else always got along with. The great thing about him was that he was probably the most hopeful character in comics - he had an origin every bit as grim as Batman or Wolverine, but he turned out as the nicest guy you could ever meet. Even being raised by Darkseid couldn’t beat him down, and he so longed for freedom that he learned to escape from literally anything. Properly written, Scott Free is like hope given concrete form.
All that is enough to make me like him a lot, but there’s also that fact that he’s the only hero I can think of off the top of my head who’s both stayed happily married for the entire time I’ve known him but had a wife who was actually the more powerful of the pair. Scott and Barda Free are like Ralph and Sue Dibny if Sue could beat Ralph in a fight, or Reed and Sue Richards if they
weren’t constantly breaking up and getting back together. It may sound weird, but, to me, it makes him seem more mature and secure in his own self-worth that he married a woman who’s his equal (in and many ways his superior).
Thanks, Luke!
48. The Spectre (Jim Corrigan) - 149 points (1 first place vote)
Jim Corrigan, the Spectre, first appeared in More Fun Comics #51, created by created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily.
Corrigan was a cop who was murdered, then refused entry into heaven, and instead became the host body for the Spirit of Vengeance, the Spectre.
The Spectre is essentially a super-powerful ghost who gets vengeance upon bad guys.
Corrigan was the host for the Spectre for decades, until in the last issue of John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake’s acclaimed 1990s series, The Spectre, Corrigan was finally admitted into heaven.
The current host for the Spectre is Crispus Allen, a murdered Gotham City cop.
I asked my pal, Kristen, why she had Spectre as her favorite character. Here is what she had to say:
My two favourite types of comic characters are mystical and vigilantes. Spectre is both. He also gives writers an opportunity for some pretty in-depth ideas about right and wrong, good and evil, responsibility for your actions, appropriate punishments, etc. You then have the classic 30s noir flawed hero in Corrigan. Finally, the Ostrander/Mandrake run (although I already liked the character) was just stunningly good.
Thanks, Kristen!
47. The Elongated Man (Ralph Dibny) (16 points for Ralph and Sue as a couple) - 153 points (1 first place vote)
Here is our own Bill Reed, from his 200th Reason to Love Comics, which was the Elongated Man (Bill was also responsible for Ralph’s first place vote):
Ralph Dibny, the World Famous Elongated Man, first appeared in Flash #112 from May, 1960. Yep, he’s been around for 47 years. He is older than Mr. Fantastic of the Fantastic Four and older than Spider-Man. He’s been around a while. His origin is thus: fascinated by contortionists, Ralph tracks down their secret– they all drink Gingold soda. Ralph scrounges up the rare Gingo fruit and makes his own super-extract. As these comic things tend to go, he was gifted with super-stretching abilities! Naturally, it led him to a career as a superhero, which was a perfect fit with his astonishing detective skills. Yes, Ralph is considered one of the DCU’s greatest detectives, after Batman, and can literally smell a mystery– his nose twitches at even the slightest hint of something sleuthable. In the original story, he was a rival for the Flash, but they became fast friends (no pun intended. Well, maybe a little) and teamed up on numerous occasions afterward, before Ralph graduated to his own solo back-up series in Detective Comics.Except, by that time– in fact, by his second appearance– he wasn’t flying solo. Nope, Ralph was married to Sue Dibny, nee Dearbon, a wealthy socialite who allowed herself to be swept off her feet by the kooky Ralph. She was sharp as a tack, smarter than she let on, and easily Ralph’s equal in terms of wits and banter. They were a bit like Blondie and Dagwood and a lot like Nick and Nora Charles, the famous detecting couple from the Thin Man novel and films. Thin Man, Elongated Man… see? It was brilliant. Ralph and Sue became comics’ finest couple, proving that marriage could be cool and that love conquered all.
I’ve been a fan of Elongated Man for a long time, and was never quite sure why. But I know now, of course, and it’s quite simple: he was an optimist. Solving mysteries were fun for him, he had cool stretchy powers, and he was married to the best woman in the world. Ralph and Sue were the best hero team in the DC Universe, and I can’t wait to see them again. The future holds infinite potential.
Thanks, Bill!
46. Ambush Bug - 157 points (5 first place votes)
Irwin Schwab, Ambush Bug, was first created by Keith Giffen as the foil for Superman in an issue of DC Comics Presents.
Schwab had a suit where he could teleport to various places where he had “bugs” placed, and he was a minor nuisance. He showed up a few more times, and soon became a popular character.
Giffen then had him become strictly a nuisance, and no longer a villain, and he eventually was considered popular enough to be given a mini-series, which was a huge hit.
Giffen used the character to basically make fun of comics as a whole, as the character was aware of his being a fictional character.
Ambush Bug had a number of mini-series and one-shots, but has not been seen much since 1992’s “Nothing Special.”
Here is why Sam Hurwitt had Ambush Bug #1 on his list…
With no disrespect intended to She-Hulk or Animal Man, Giffen & Fleming’s Ambush Bug is one of the few instances where breaking the Fourth Wall really works. Because he’s like a Warner Bros. cartoon popping around the DC Universe (and completely bonkers), it seems perfectly consistent for the Bug to run around parodying comic-book cliches — and it certainly helps that the writing was always funny as hell. I’m not sure I’d ever want any other writers bringing him back, but it does my heard good to know that Ambush Bug’s still somewhere out there in the DCU and hasn’t yet been eviscerated by Hoppy the Marvel Bunny.or something.
Thanks, Sam!
That’s it for today!
Check back tomorrow for #45-41!!
47 Comments
Seamus G
September 12, 2007 at 9:06 pm
All solid characters in the first batch, including 2 of DCs most famous husbands.
I notice that the newest character so far, Ambush Bug, has only been around a ‘mere’ 25 years. It will be interesting to see the average ages of the winning characters (not that I’m expecting a big turnout for Forerunner, say).
dmor173
September 12, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Though ralph would be higher. Good start to the countdown. Looking forward to the rest.
Anthony Strand
September 12, 2007 at 9:18 pm
I love that this first batch includes three characters who are, at their best, light-hearted. Because the DC Universe is at its best when it’s light-hearted, if you ask me.
Bill Reed
September 12, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Hurray for Elongated Man making it, even if he’s not as high as I’d like him to be. Heh.
And it’s cool to see Mister Miracle make the list– I forgot to vote for him.
And, Huntress? Really?
M Bloom
September 12, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Good to see the Bug on here. After I sent off my votes I’d realized that I totally forgot to put him on the list. Glad to see he still made it.
Brian Cronin
September 12, 2007 at 9:43 pm
By the by, just so you know, making the Top 50 is REALLY, REALLY hard, especially for DC (as you have to compete against Vertigo characters as well as DC Universe characters), so if a character makes it, that’s really impressive.
Steve T
September 12, 2007 at 9:48 pm
So cool to see Huntress make the list.The original Wayne character had much potential that never got a full chance to bloom.
Bertinelli started off sort of slowly.But she’s really found herself in recent times.Simone’s take on Huntress is sweet stuff indeed.
stephen cade
September 12, 2007 at 10:10 pm
I could have put Huntress on my list–I loved the Earth 2 version–her pedigree was well used.
I also loved the original series for the new Huntress–it was entertaining, and didn’t treat her like a bombo–something some later versions did.
I wasn’t always impressed by the work of wither Joey Cavalieri or Joe Staton, but when they do a good job–it’s superb.
Joe Gualtieri
September 12, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I wish I could have included Ralph, Sue, or ambush Bug on my list, but DC just has so many great characters, I couldn’t do it.
1. Helena Wayne didn’t die during the Crisis, IIRC. She was traumatized by her famiy and past being erased and hasn’t appeared since.
2. Ambush Bug joined the JLA during 52.
Brian Cronin
September 12, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Pretty sure she dies in the final battle, saving some kids.
I haven’t read it in awhile, though, so I could be wrong, too.
Yeah, but that fit under “has not been seen much.”
Anonymous
September 13, 2007 at 2:00 am
Nice touch, getting the reasons why whomever voted for the certain characters.
Pól Rua
September 13, 2007 at 2:06 am
Wow, Luke. Nice write-up on Mister Miracle, the first from my top ten to make it in.
Now I like him EVEN MORE!
Graham Vingoe
September 13, 2007 at 3:18 am
You know, its only day 1 and the top 50 is becoming interesting for its variety. Wish I’d included Ralph Dibny as well.
But it’s STILL going to be Batman at number 1 whatever I change so its not too big a problem!
Eric
September 13, 2007 at 6:28 am
After reading the Mr. Miracle write up, I’m sad that I didn’t vote for him!
Matthew E
September 13, 2007 at 6:35 am
The problem with Ambush Bug in the top 50 is not that he’s a bad character - he’s not - but that DC has so many good characters that at the end of this we’re going to be going, “Such-and-such didn’t make the list? Such-and-such! And what about so-and-so? How could that be? Oh yeah; Ambush Bug was in there at 46, that’s why.”
Comparing to the Great Curve’s list of some time ago:
Huntress was #89 on that list.
Ambush Bug was #63.
Mr. Miracle was #31.
Elongated Man was #39.
The Spectre was #34.
On their list, positions 46-50 were taken up by, respectively, Alan Scott, Animal-Man, Phantom Stranger, Mr. Terrific and Dr. Fate.
Cei-U!
September 13, 2007 at 6:49 am
The original Huntress did indeed die in Crisis on Infinite Earths #12. It’s also true that her body, and the E2 Robin’s body, were never found, presumably as a delayed reaction to their timeline being wiped out in the Crisis.
Also, Ambush Bug was more than a “minor nuisance.” Everybody, including DC themselves, overlooks that the Bug murdered Metropolis’ district attorney in his first appearance.
The Mutt
September 13, 2007 at 6:58 am
Mister Miracle nearly made my list, but I think he’s still a grade A character waiting for the right writer to take him to A+ greatness. I’ve always thought he represents the greatest What If…? in comics history: What if Jesus had been raised by Satan?
Suprised to see Ambush Bug so low on the list.
Shocked to see Huntress at all. I credit Gail Simone.
Ralph is a great character, but did the world really need another stretchy guy? I think dying may be the best thing ever to happen to Ralph and Sue. I think making them ghost detectives is a brilliant idea.
The Spectre is just pure awesome and always has been.
Matthew E
September 13, 2007 at 7:06 am
Ralph is a great character, but did the world really need another stretchy guy?
Ralph was in my group of ten. But I heard about him that the guy who created him for DC only did so because he didn’t know that DC had recently acquired Plastic Man; he said that if he’d known that he would have just used Plas instead. I think comics is richer for this mistake; Ralph and Plas (and, if you want to throw him in there, Reed) are so obviously different characters now that you’d never say that one made the other redundant.
Kristen
September 13, 2007 at 7:14 am
I actually had Sue on her own at #10, but didn’t list Ralph at all.
Mr Miracle would have made my top twenty. His wife almost made my top ten.
Ambush Bug is popular enough, and so many voters were talking about focusing on C-list etc characters, that I was expecting him to go higher.
Slam Bradley
September 13, 2007 at 7:20 am
Two of mine right off the bat. Probably bodes ill for some of my more obscure choices. I’ll quote from the “favorite characters” Christmas thread that Kurt did last year on the Classics Borard at CBR.
“My next pick isn’t even a supporting character. He’s an alter ego. And his name is Jim Corrigan.
While I’ve liked The Spectre off and on, it’s his alter ego that has always held more fascination for me. Corrigan was the type of tough hard-boiled cop/PI that has always fascinated me. And he just happened to be tied to one of the most powerful beings on Earth (whatever earth it happened to be).
I really started to love Corrigan during the Fleisher/Aparo Spectre run in Adventure. There was a major hint at the great potential of the character. That potential was fully realized by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake in The Spectre vol. 3 (one of the best DC books of the 1990s). Corrigan was a very real ghost, full of more life than many of the cardboard characters that we were seeing in a decade of excess. Corrigan grew and changed, realizing that the old methods no longer met the needs of a modern age.
Jimmy Corrigan was finally allowed to go to his reward. And I’m much the better for having known him.”
“Helena Wayne, the Earth-2 Huntress.
This is probably the first character that I followed throughout her entire career, from first appearance to untimely and unnecessary death.
Helena/Huntress is the reason that I truly loved Earth-2. We could see the growth and aging of heroes like Batman and yet still have their modern adventures with a never-aging counterpart. Helena was the natural extension of that mythos. The progeny of Batman and the culmination of the very clear attraction between Batman and Catwoman that was apparent in Batman #1.
Helena was a great addition to the JSA. And her back-up series in Wonder Woman was one of the great back-ups of the time (and the only reason to read the horrific Wonder Woman book). “
The Mutt
September 13, 2007 at 7:26 am
I don’t really think of Plastic Man as a Stretchy Guy. He’s a shape-shifter, far beyond anything Reed or Ralph or Jimmy Olsen could do.
But it was never their power-set that made Ralph and Reed such interesting guys.
suedenim
September 13, 2007 at 7:28 am
That’s a lot more votes than I expected for this low on the list - must be quite a lot of variety! (What is the scoring system, again? Is it a 10 points for #1, 9 for #2, etc. thing?)
Random observation on the first Huntress, after reading the TPBs reprinting her adventures: in retrospect, I think they kinda blew it, giving her a great background (daughter of Batman and Catwoman!), but never giving her much of a chance to [i]interact[/i] with her famous parents before killing them off! I suspect the thinking was to give her a parallel to Batman’s own dead-parents origin, but I think keeping them around would’ve been more fun.
Andrew Collins
September 13, 2007 at 7:49 am
Steve T. said:
“Bertinelli started off sort of slowly.But she’s really found herself in recent times.Simone’s take on Huntress is sweet stuff indeed.”
Yeah, Steve, it took me a while to warm up to the Bertinelli version too. The Cavalieri/Staton series was okay, but I had such fond memories of the Wonder Woman back-ups featuring the Earth-2 version (speaking of which, I hope DC gives us a second Huntress trade) that I had a hard time accepting the Godfather-lite version of her origin. I loved having her be the offspring of two of my favorite characters.
The first time I found myself really enjoying the current Huntress was the Huntress/Batman/Question mini series “Cry For Blood” that Greg Rucka wrote and which really fleshed her out and portrayed her in a way that showed her vulnerability but without sacrificing the character’s strengths. I loved how Gail Simone picked up on that during her Birds Of Prey run and explored not only her own broken past and history with relationships, but also her “father/daughter” like relationship with Batman, whose approval she was always seeking.
As for her costumes, I’ve always loved the heavy purple look, and the modern redesigns with the heavy mix of purple and black are some of the best and most eyecatching designs in superhero comics, in my opinion. I’ll admit to even liking the Jim Lee ‘booty short’ costume, despite rolling my eyes every time I see it.
M Bloom
September 13, 2007 at 8:02 am
It took a long time for me to adjust to the new Huntress, too. The Earth-2 version was a great character with a lot of potential, and for a long time I felt that the post-Crisis version was just a shallow imposter. Helena B didn’t really grow on me until I read Morrison’s JLA run. I loved her role there as the one who stood around while cosmic forces were throwing punches at each other wondering “Why the hell am I here?” That really endeared her to me.
MarkAndrew
September 13, 2007 at 9:44 am
Off panel! As we all know, in comic books, if we don’t see a corpse he ain’t dead.
Plus I believe that story was written by Paul Kupperberg, and the original AB didn’t have much to do with the Giffen/Fleming comedo-tragic character the Bug would become.
buttler
September 13, 2007 at 10:04 am
Holy Shazam, someone I voted for actually made the list! I really miss Ambush Bug, although I’m scared of anyone but Giffen/Fleming bringing him back.
buttler
September 13, 2007 at 10:40 am
I love Buddy and all, but if it weren’t for Grant Morrison coming along and revamping him a few decades later, a vote for Animal Man would be like a vote for Cave Carson or Roy Raymond, TV Detective.
John Seavey
September 13, 2007 at 12:32 pm
For the record, I think that Ralph and Sue are still broken as ghost detectives; they worked well in their classic appearances as people who led charmed lives and spread that charm to others (a bit like Agatha Christie’s classic couple, the Beresfords, from ‘Partners in Crime’.) The whole “dead” thing kinda works against that.
Plus, anyone who’d read the old Elongated Man material, with the Carmine Infantino art, wouldn’t call Ralph’s stretching a rehash of other characters…Infantino really brought the power and the character to life with dynamic, clever artwork that showcased the way a character could use stretching in a fight. Ralph was a very different person to Plastic Man or Mister Fantastic just in the way the art made him move, and Infantino deserves tons of credit for that.
Eric
September 13, 2007 at 12:39 pm
I was thinking that DC has a lot of legacy characters and I’m kinda worried that the rest of the list will be family characters (Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Alfred; Superman, Supergirl, Steel, Suberboy).
Brian Cronin
September 13, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Surround the thing you want to quote with the following word - blockquote. Put the word blockquote in <>, with the latter <> having a / before blockquote.
buttler
September 13, 2007 at 2:13 pm
We’re all blockquotes on this bus.
*shakes fist at MarkAndrew*
Brian Cronin
September 13, 2007 at 2:19 pm
No offense intended to the Great Curve poll, which was quite a bit of fun, but I re-looked at that one, and they had a SEVENTH of the ballots cast in this one.
The more votes cast, the more accurate the results will be. After 80 ballots cast in THIS one, we had Arseface in the Top 30.
In fact, the relative small amount of ballots cast allowed for some ridiculous “Space Cabbie” write-in campaign to get him into the Top 20. Man, do I hate write-in campaigns. I am SOOO happy that there actually WAS a write-in campaign this year, and the character they tried to drive into the Top 50 failed to make it. Thank you, lots of votes cast!!!
In addition, Matthew, their list was DC Universe ONLY, so of course, we’re going to have some superhero characters miss this list, as there are plenty of neat Vertigo characters who will make the Top 50.
buttler
September 13, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Hey, don’t go hating on Space Cabbie!
Wow, I can’t believe I forgot to vote for Ultra the Multi-Alien.
Brian Cronin
September 13, 2007 at 2:57 pm
I like Space Cabbie, and I like the character folks tried to get into this list this time around, too. I just don’t like people trying to skew results.
buttler
September 13, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I don’t see what’s so suspicious about 174 votes for Abnezegar.
Now if it were Rath or Ghast, that would just be silly.
MarkAndrew
September 13, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Shoot. Did I mess up a quote tag.
Ummm…. accidentally.
OBVIOUSLY Ambush Bug’s poor showing wouldn’t lead me to try to sabatoge the list.
What’s this, fifteen tons of dynamite? Well, yes. I DO have fifteen tons of dynamite back there, like the sign says.
I’m doing some gardening.
That’s it.
Gardening.
Hondo
September 13, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Mr Miracle - I like him, kind of, but still kind of don’t get the character. I know the setup and all, and love the whole swap thing, and I know Kirby was inspired by Steranko to create the character, but couldn’t say he was one of my favs, though I did vote for Orion. Love that guy !
Huntress was close, but didn’t quite make my top 10 while I believe Azrael did. The original Earth-2 character had so much potential, and hopefully we’ll be seeing her and her backstory more with the new DC Mega U.
Spectre - again came close to getting a vote, however, I felt he really was more of a cliche, like the Punisher, than a truly well rounded character. He’s more like an Old Testament force of nature.
Elongated Man - Ralph and Sue are great. It’s amazing they’re as high on the list as they are, but the 90’s JLI are what really put this character on the map. Like him but not Top 10 or even 50. Hopefully they’ll get some screen time as ghost detectives, probably bumping elbows with Deadman.
Ambush Bug - YES ! Voted for and glad to see others did too. DC resident maniac. He’d make a great foil to Lobo.
ScottDMSimmons
September 13, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Mister Miracle has a great visual design to his costume, and the idea of the character is alot of fun. He and Barda would likely be in my top 20.
Scott
Patrick Zircher
September 13, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Mister Miracle at 49? Spectre at 48?
Obviously, you have accidentally inverted the list.
fourthworlder
September 13, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Scott Free barely made the list? I had he and Barda listed jointly as my #2, behind only Morpheus and crew.
There was something very moving about the spirit of Mister Miracle, the bright laughing spirit of New Genesis royalty that could not be crushed or even dented by a childhood in the Murder Machine. A miracle indeed, maybe even a bit of a desperate prayer by a middle-aged Jack Kirby who’d started his days on Delancey Street and grown up to fight the Third Reich.
And Barda is my favorite comic book wife of all time.
Anyone who hasn’t read New Gods #7 and Mister Miracle #9 (original series, of course) should rush out and get them now.
Alan Coil
September 15, 2007 at 10:20 am
2 thumbs down on Ambush Bug.
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When this is complete, will there be a list of 51 through, well, 4781?
g
September 15, 2007 at 12:19 pm
that was such an amazing write-up of Mister Miracle
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September 19, 2007 at 5:02 am
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Todd Lawrence
September 19, 2007 at 8:45 pm
If Helenas Wayne and Bertinelli are being counted as the same character, why are the individual Flashes, Green Lanterns, etc. being counted as individual characters?
Just curious because it seems rather arbitrary.
Brian Cronin
September 20, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Huntress isn’t a legacy characters like those folks are.
The changes to Huntress are basically the same as the changes to Power Girl. Both of their origins were no longer possible Post-Crisis, so they came up with new origins for them (Mob boss’ daughter and Atlantean descendant).
They’re still the same characters, though, unlike Flash, which is four very distinct characters.
Todd Lawrence
September 20, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Fair enough.
So, by that yardstick, can we expect all votes cast for pre-Crisis young Clark Kent and Kon-El to be added toward a common “Superboy” total, as well?
Brian Cronin
September 20, 2007 at 10:54 pm
I don’t think DC would approve of us considering Conner Kent the same as the original Superboy.