Comments on: Top 50 Marvel Characters #40-36 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:44:45 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chris Coke http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-198365 Chris Coke Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:57:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-198365 I was one of those people who didn't put any of the FF on my list, whereas I would have put the Fantastic Four in my top 10 if teams counted. My apologies to all four of them. My list is similarly lacking in X-Men, despite my love of the X-Men. My apologies to all 873 of them. I was one of those people who didn't put any of the FF on my list, whereas I would have put the Fantastic Four in my top 10 if teams counted. My apologies to all four of them.

My list is similarly lacking in X-Men, despite my love of the X-Men. My apologies to all 873 of them.

]]> By: DanCJ http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-197747 DanCJ Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:35:52 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-197747 Ultimate Cap was my #5. He's a fantastic character - and so much better than the standard version, though Ed Brubaker has done a lot to bring the standard one up. <blockquote>Halfway through the voting, neither Sue NOR Johnny were in the Top 50! Freaky, huh? Reed was much higher. The last couple hundred votes were hard on Reed and good to Sue and Johnny. </blockquote> You could probably do some profiling about what type of people vote for what kind of character. Personally I like to mull over a list like that for a couple of days so I guess I'd be a late voter. Ultimate Cap was my #5. He's a fantastic character - and so much better than the standard version, though Ed Brubaker has done a lot to bring the standard one up.

Halfway through the voting, neither Sue NOR Johnny were in the Top 50!

Freaky, huh?

Reed was much higher. The last couple hundred votes were hard on Reed and good to Sue and Johnny.

You could probably do some profiling about what type of people vote for what kind of character. Personally I like to mull over a list like that for a couple of days so I guess I'd be a late voter.

]]> By: Bret http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-197395 Bret Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:30:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-197395 He's also a moron who couldn't defeat alternate universe disney built robo stalin, or the Black Celestial. Also, no offense to Sue or anything, but Ben's the heart. He's also a moron who couldn't defeat alternate universe disney built robo stalin, or the Black Celestial.

Also, no offense to Sue or anything, but Ben's the heart.

]]> By: fourthworlder http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196910 fourthworlder Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:26:30 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196910 Sue Richards has been my favorite member of the FF for a long time. I agree with M Bloom that she's the heart of the team. She's also the glue that holds the other three together, the big sister/mother-figure who has kept each one of them in line at one time or another, made them say sorry and take a little time out when necessary. I cringed at Alba being put in the movie role, as I do at the current way Sue is portrayed in the book (typified by the illustration you chose for this post- she looks sixteen, and what's with those giant feet?) As for Johnny, there was no super-hero I more wanted to be when I was twelve. My school books used to be covered with little red-ink human torches. And he was the only character that I thought really worked in the movie. Sue Richards has been my favorite member of the FF for a long time. I agree with M Bloom that she's the heart of the team. She's also the glue that holds the other three together, the big sister/mother-figure who has kept each one of them in line at one time or another, made them say sorry and take a little time out when necessary.
I cringed at Alba being put in the movie role, as I do at the current way Sue is portrayed in the book (typified by the illustration you chose for this post- she looks sixteen, and what's with those giant feet?)

As for Johnny, there was no super-hero I more wanted to be when I was twelve. My school books used to be covered with little red-ink human torches. And he was the only character that I thought really worked in the movie.

]]> By: suedenim http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196862 suedenim Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:17:26 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196862 Well, the thing with the FF is that they're created to be team characters, and people think of the FF *as* a team. So it's not too surprising that, rated as individuals, they'd be clustered near each other, and not nearly as highly-ranked as they would be for something like "favorite teams." Ben Grimm was the "breakout character" exception to that rule Well, the thing with the FF is that they're created to be team characters, and people think of the FF *as* a team. So it's not too surprising that, rated as individuals, they'd be clustered near each other, and not nearly as highly-ranked as they would be for something like "favorite teams."

Ben Grimm was the "breakout character" exception to that rule

]]> By: Cove West http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196588 Cove West Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:29:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196588 Can't say the FF surprises me. Really, when was the last time someone thought "wow, these guys are the awesomest!" about the FF? Back in the '60s? Maybe for once, could Marvel have a mega-crossover where the FF (and Spidey, for that matter) get center stage and save the universe, rather than being the punked-for-the-sake-of-hyping-a-threat cannon fodder for the Avengers or X-Men? But Rogue surprises me. Isn't she STILL voted Favorite Female Hero by the WIZARD readers every year? Even adjusting for voter fraud, mutant bigotry, Yankees, Ms. Marvel fans, and people who like to be touched, it's shocking to see her so low. Unless the remaining 35 characters are all men... Can't say the FF surprises me. Really, when was the last time someone thought "wow, these guys are the awesomest!" about the FF? Back in the '60s? Maybe for once, could Marvel have a mega-crossover where the FF (and Spidey, for that matter) get center stage and save the universe, rather than being the punked-for-the-sake-of-hyping-a-threat cannon fodder for the Avengers or X-Men?

But Rogue surprises me. Isn't she STILL voted Favorite Female Hero by the WIZARD readers every year? Even adjusting for voter fraud, mutant bigotry, Yankees, Ms. Marvel fans, and people who like to be touched, it's shocking to see her so low. Unless the remaining 35 characters are all men...

]]> By: Joe Gualtieri http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196450 Joe Gualtieri Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:58:01 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196450 Ultimate Cap? Johnny Storm? Molly Hayes? Rogue? If those are among the top 50 Marvel characters, no wonder had so much trouble hitting ten characters. Ultimate Cap? Johnny Storm? Molly Hayes? Rogue?

If those are among the top 50 Marvel characters, no wonder had so much trouble hitting ten characters.

]]> By: km http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196320 km Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:36:55 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196320 <blockquote>And I’ve always loved Rogue. The inability to touch anybody always struck me as a powerful character gimmick. She’d have made my top 25.</blockquote> Mm-hm, me too. Hate her accent (just generally hate the Marvel habit of carefully s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g-o-u-t each character's ethnicity) but she's an amazing concept as a tragic heroine.

And I’ve always loved Rogue. The inability to touch anybody always struck me as a powerful character gimmick. She’d have made my top 25.

Mm-hm, me too. Hate her accent (just generally hate the Marvel habit of carefully s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g-o-u-t each character's ethnicity) but she's an amazing concept as a tragic heroine.

]]> By: buttler http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196265 buttler Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:27:36 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196265 Ultimate Captain America? Man, if I'd known slight variants like that rated their own entries, Marvel Adventures Hulk and Mini-Marvels Hulk would have taken up two slots right off the bat. Ultimate Captain America? Man, if I'd known slight variants like that rated their own entries, Marvel Adventures Hulk and Mini-Marvels Hulk would have taken up two slots right off the bat.

]]> By: Apodaca http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196211 Apodaca Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:07:06 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196211 That virgin-whore complex is very strong, apparently. That virgin-whore complex is very strong, apparently.

]]> By: John Seavey http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196178 John Seavey Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:25:14 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196178 Thought: Did the FF movies raise Johnny's stock? Because the actor who plays Johnny in the films really does a good job with the character, and seems to get all the good one-liners. Thought: Did the FF movies raise Johnny's stock? Because the actor who plays Johnny in the films really does a good job with the character, and seems to get all the good one-liners.

]]> By: Eric http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196152 Eric Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:48:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196152 No one from my list made it this round, but I did vote for Gert and Chase from Runaways, so I'm happy that Molly made it! I am also happy to see Johnny Storm place as well as he did. In this age of pet characters and X-domination, it is good that classic characters I have loved since my youth are not forgotten, either. Spider-Man is the everyman; the Human Torch is who you want to be. No one from my list made it this round, but I did vote for Gert and Chase from Runaways, so I'm happy that Molly made it! I am also happy to see Johnny Storm place as well as he did. In this age of pet characters and X-domination, it is good that classic characters I have loved since my youth are not forgotten, either. Spider-Man is the everyman; the Human Torch is who you want to be.

]]> By: Brian Cronin http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196132 Brian Cronin Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:12:30 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196132 Halfway through the voting, neither Sue NOR Johnny were in the Top 50! Freaky, huh? Reed was much higher. The last couple hundred votes were hard on Reed and good to Sue and Johnny. Halfway through the voting, neither Sue NOR Johnny were in the Top 50!

Freaky, huh?

Reed was much higher. The last couple hundred votes were hard on Reed and good to Sue and Johnny.

]]> By: Chris Coke http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196108 Chris Coke Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:12:46 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196108 I don't know how I feel about Ultimate Cap. Not sure that version is all that well-established. But I am glad to see Molly. She and Jessica are two new characters worthy of noting. And I've always loved Rogue. The inability to touch anybody always struck me as a powerful character gimmick. She'd have made my top 25. I don't know how I feel about Ultimate Cap. Not sure that version is all that well-established.

But I am glad to see Molly. She and Jessica are two new characters worthy of noting.

And I've always loved Rogue. The inability to touch anybody always struck me as a powerful character gimmick. She'd have made my top 25.

]]> By: Patrick Zircher http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196104 Patrick Zircher Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:06:07 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196104 I like the Fantastic Four. As a team they're a top ten pick. That's their strength-- a team, a superhero family. Singularly they only seem parts of a whole. As individual favorites I understand their lower rankings. Like most people, the Thing's my favorite (in the books, anyway). Followed, and this is where most of us jockey around, by Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, and the Human Torch. I like the Fantastic Four. As a team they're a top ten pick. That's their strength-- a team, a superhero family. Singularly they only seem parts of a whole. As individual favorites I understand their lower rankings. Like most people, the Thing's my favorite (in the books, anyway). Followed, and this is where most of us jockey around, by Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, and the Human Torch.

]]> By: ScottDMSimmons http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196093 ScottDMSimmons Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:51:55 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196093 Wow, THREE of my top ten in this list alone: Rogue (my #1) Ultimate Cap (my #4) and Human Torch (my #8) Too bad Rogue didn't get higher. I like those tragic heroes like her, Robotman, Martian Manhunter, Crazy Jane, Scarlet Witch, and Thing. And you know, I totally didn't think about Runaways when I made my list, but ALEX would have been a good addition to my top 20. Scott Wow, THREE of my top ten in this list alone:

Rogue (my #1)
Ultimate Cap (my #4)
and Human Torch (my #8)

Too bad Rogue didn't get higher. I like those tragic heroes like her, Robotman, Martian Manhunter, Crazy Jane, Scarlet Witch, and Thing.

And you know, I totally didn't think about Runaways when I made my list, but ALEX would have been a good addition to my top 20.

Scott

]]> By: Seamus G http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196088 Seamus G Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:43:50 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196088 *glowers at Ultimate Cap* I figured if anyone from Runaways got a nod, it would be Molly. She's just utterly quotable and fun. Interesting that Brian K. Vaughn got a creation onto the Marvel and DC lists at the same time. *glowers at Ultimate Cap*

I figured if anyone from Runaways got a nod, it would be Molly. She's just utterly quotable and fun. Interesting that Brian K. Vaughn got a creation onto the Marvel and DC lists at the same time.

]]> By: Mongoose http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196061 Mongoose Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:20:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196061 Molly for the win! She's not my favourite Runaway, but it's good to see one on the chart (maybe we'll see Nico and Gert or somebody higher up...?). It is simply priceless entertainment to see her totally own Wolverine...and the Punisher. I'm pretty amazed to see Rogue that far down. I always thought she was a more popular character than that. Molly for the win! She's not my favourite Runaway, but it's good to see one on the chart (maybe we'll see Nico and Gert or somebody higher up...?). It is simply priceless entertainment to see her totally own Wolverine...and the Punisher.

I'm pretty amazed to see Rogue that far down. I always thought she was a more popular character than that.

]]> By: Bret http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196056 Bret Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:19:22 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196056 No, that's Katie Power. They're different. Also: Johnny higher up than Reed!?! Somebody is going to die. Shoulda voted. $%^$^ Millar. Did Johnny ever outwit the dreaming celestial? Did Johnny defeat Robo-Stalin? Does Johnny EVER outwit Doom when it's all on the line? No. Johnny's a moron. I can totally understand liking Ben better. Everyone loves Ben. I can sorta understand liking Sue better. But Johnny?!?!?!? No, that's Katie Power.

They're different.

Also: Johnny higher up than Reed!?!

Somebody is going to die.
Shoulda voted. $%^$^ Millar.

Did Johnny ever outwit the dreaming celestial?
Did Johnny defeat Robo-Stalin?
Does Johnny EVER outwit Doom when it's all on the line?

No. Johnny's a moron.

I can totally understand liking Ben better. Everyone loves Ben. I can sorta understand liking Sue better. But Johnny?!?!?!?

]]> By: sgt pepper http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/comment-page-1/#comment-196016 sgt pepper Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:37:24 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/14/top-50-marvel-characters-40-36/#comment-196016 I like Vaughn's Runaways, but wasn't Molly in Power Pack when I was a kid? Isn't she basically the exact same character? I like Vaughn's Runaways, but wasn't Molly in Power Pack when I was a kid? Isn't she basically the exact same character?

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