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	<title>Comments on: 10/04 &#8211; Curious Cat Asks&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wait, someone else did mention Miraculous Return. Good.

One other story I&#039;d add (probably my close second): As a kid, I loved the first Lori Lemaris story. It captured the sort of haunted pathos that was an essential component of the 1950s Superman perfectly. 

John Byrne retold it during his run and I thought he did a magnificent job of it-- plus, this was the height of Byrne&#039;s ability to draw beautiful women and Lori was gorgeous as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait, someone else did mention Miraculous Return. Good.</p>
<p>One other story I&#8217;d add (probably my close second): As a kid, I loved the first Lori Lemaris story. It captured the sort of haunted pathos that was an essential component of the 1950s Superman perfectly. </p>
<p>John Byrne retold it during his run and I thought he did a magnificent job of it&#8211; plus, this was the height of Byrne&#8217;s ability to draw beautiful women and Lori was gorgeous as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Burk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Burk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised no one has mentioned this one (or at least I didn&#039;t see it mentioned)... &quot;The Miraculous Return of Jonathan Kent&quot; from Action 507-508 (I think). It&#039;s a genuinely sweet and moving tale where Clark Kent discovers one day that his father is now alive and everyone except Clark/Superman accepts it as a part of reality. It turns out that an alien is granting Jonathan his fondest wish from years back to see his son as a grown-up. 

It&#039;s a really sweet story about fathers and sons having that one last chance to connect. It really moved me as a 10 year-old. Still does today. And it even has a totally silly hippie villain who gets what he wants by saying &quot;Please!&quot;. For my money it&#039;s as good as any issue of All -Star Superman (in fact one issue of All-Star pretty much goes to the same territory, only with lesser effect). And it&#039;s written by Cary Bates, the most underrated writer in the history of DC comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised no one has mentioned this one (or at least I didn&#8217;t see it mentioned)&#8230; &#8220;The Miraculous Return of Jonathan Kent&#8221; from Action 507-508 (I think). It&#8217;s a genuinely sweet and moving tale where Clark Kent discovers one day that his father is now alive and everyone except Clark/Superman accepts it as a part of reality. It turns out that an alien is granting Jonathan his fondest wish from years back to see his son as a grown-up. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a really sweet story about fathers and sons having that one last chance to connect. It really moved me as a 10 year-old. Still does today. And it even has a totally silly hippie villain who gets what he wants by saying &#8220;Please!&#8221;. For my money it&#8217;s as good as any issue of All -Star Superman (in fact one issue of All-Star pretty much goes to the same territory, only with lesser effect). And it&#8217;s written by Cary Bates, the most underrated writer in the history of DC comics.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite Superman story?  Veitch&#039;s Maximortal.</description>
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		<title>By: Rayhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faves:

&quot;The man who has everything&quot;
&quot;Superman for all seasons&quot;
&quot;What&#039;s so funny about...&quot;
&quot;Red Son&quot;
Hitman/JLA &amp; Hitman #34</description>
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<p>&#8220;The man who has everything&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Superman for all seasons&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What&#8217;s so funny about&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Red Son&#8221;<br />
Hitman/JLA &amp; Hitman #34</p>
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		<title>By: Salamurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salamurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the info, Joe Gualtieri.
I guess I have to track that down.

regarding &quot;Superman For All Seasons&quot;, I&#039;ve liked every Loeb/Sale story I&#039;ve read; one of the best parts of the book was the reuse of layouts and shots in the various chapters, tying them together visually  -- the most interesting being, Clark&#039;s room at the farmhouse in chapter 1 &amp; 4 and his Metropolis apartment bedroom in chapter 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the info, Joe Gualtieri.<br />
I guess I have to track that down.</p>
<p>regarding &#8220;Superman For All Seasons&#8221;, I&#8217;ve liked every Loeb/Sale story I&#8217;ve read; one of the best parts of the book was the reuse of layouts and shots in the various chapters, tying them together visually  &#8212; the most interesting being, Clark&#8217;s room at the farmhouse in chapter 1 &amp; 4 and his Metropolis apartment bedroom in chapter 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, fourthworlder, there have been some great Superboy stories. The first Bizarro story is probably my favourite, how about you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, fourthworlder, there have been some great Superboy stories. The first Bizarro story is probably my favourite, how about you?</p>
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		<title>By: fourthworlder</title>
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		<dc:creator>fourthworlder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggle with this one because all my favorite Superman stories are Superboy stories.</description>
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		<title>By: mikesensei</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikesensei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Mutt&#039;s first suggestion, followed by the time Superman was flying around and spotted Wonder Woman sunbathing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Mutt&#8217;s first suggestion, followed by the time Superman was flying around and spotted Wonder Woman sunbathing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never liked Superman even though I like Superheroes.  He just seemed to have it too easy.

But Hitman #34 and now JLA/Hitman #2 have given me the best takes on the character I have ever seen.  While I don&#039;t think Ennis could ever write Superman as a character, I think he does the best job of writing about Superman as a concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never liked Superman even though I like Superheroes.  He just seemed to have it too easy.</p>
<p>But Hitman #34 and now JLA/Hitman #2 have given me the best takes on the character I have ever seen.  While I don&#8217;t think Ennis could ever write Superman as a character, I think he does the best job of writing about Superman as a concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its maybe because I just read them, but I really dug DC Comics Presents 27-29, Mongul&#039;s first appearances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its maybe because I just read them, but I really dug DC Comics Presents 27-29, Mongul&#8217;s first appearances.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew that Clark/Lana moment had stuck with me for some reason. It just happened to be because I had seen it before (just not drawn by Tim Sale).

There you go. I told you it was weird I liked it so much when I generally have a disdain for Loeb. That explains it.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew that Clark/Lana moment had stuck with me for some reason. It just happened to be because I had seen it before (just not drawn by Tim Sale).</p>
<p>There you go. I told you it was weird I liked it so much when I generally have a disdain for Loeb. That explains it.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: DanCJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanCJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow with ease.

Honourable mentions to Red Son and Secret Identity</description>
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<p>Honourable mentions to Red Son and Secret Identity</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The moment where Lana thinks Clark is going to propose? I donâ€™t recall that in Man for All Seasons, but if itâ€™s there, Loeb cribbed it from Man of Steel, since the exact same thing described by the person voting for that moment happened there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like every Loeb books, I&#039;m sure EVERY good part of Superman for All Seasons is directly cribbed from a superior previous story, while all the illogical parts are 100% Loeb contributions.  There&#039;s a pretty good, consistent test you can do to tell if a Loeb scene is cribbed: is it good?  Probably cribbed.  Does the sequence make sense and last more than three consecutive panels without a plot hole popping up?  Cribbed.  The test has 100% success rate so far, I find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The moment where Lana thinks Clark is going to propose? I donâ€™t recall that in Man for All Seasons, but if itâ€™s there, Loeb cribbed it from Man of Steel, since the exact same thing described by the person voting for that moment happened there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like every Loeb books, I&#8217;m sure EVERY good part of Superman for All Seasons is directly cribbed from a superior previous story, while all the illogical parts are 100% Loeb contributions.  There&#8217;s a pretty good, consistent test you can do to tell if a Loeb scene is cribbed: is it good?  Probably cribbed.  Does the sequence make sense and last more than three consecutive panels without a plot hole popping up?  Cribbed.  The test has 100% success rate so far, I find.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joe: it&#039;s also explained in issue one of the recent Hitman/JLA two-parter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joe: it&#8217;s also explained in issue one of the recent Hitman/JLA two-parter.</p>
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		<title>By: felgekarp</title>
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		<dc:creator>felgekarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman Red/Superman Blue, which must be one of the most reprinted Superman stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman Red/Superman Blue, which must be one of the most reprinted Superman stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gualtieri</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/04/1004-curious-cat-asks-2/comment-page-2/#comment-218543</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Gualtieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salamurai, in the Hitman issue in question (#34?), Tommy Monaghan&#039;s on his way to a hit, and stumbles upon Superman, just standing on a rooftop. Superman&#039;s depressed because while he just saved a bunch of astronauts from certain death, well, that would be telling. The issue IIRC, won an Eisner, so of course DC hasn&#039;t reprinted it. It&#039;s up there with Astro City v1 #1 as a look into Superman&#039;s pysche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salamurai, in the Hitman issue in question (#34?), Tommy Monaghan&#8217;s on his way to a hit, and stumbles upon Superman, just standing on a rooftop. Superman&#8217;s depressed because while he just saved a bunch of astronauts from certain death, well, that would be telling. The issue IIRC, won an Eisner, so of course DC hasn&#8217;t reprinted it. It&#8217;s up there with Astro City v1 #1 as a look into Superman&#8217;s pysche.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Gualtieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Gualtieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moment where Lana thinks Clark is going to propose? I don&#039;t recall that in Man for All Seasons, but if it&#039;s there, Loeb cribbed it from Man of Steel, since the exact same thing described by the person voting for that moment happened there.

Anyone voting for Whatever Happened to...? Should read Superfolks. Moore borrowed liberally from that for a lot of the early portion of his career, and it&#039;s rarely more obvious than in WHttMoT, where the twist ending is exactly the same.

Superman #400 is great, though I&#039;m not sure why people would vote for only a section of it (or why DC insists on only reprinting part of it). The story is best experienced as a whole. It&#039;s a very moving portrait of Superman as symbol

Anyway, my vote goes tot he story from Action #1 or 2 where Superman traps greedy mine owners in their own dangerous mine. It would take until Ellis&#039;s Stormwatch and John Cumberland for Superman to ever be that cool again (Miracleman was a little to facist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moment where Lana thinks Clark is going to propose? I don&#8217;t recall that in Man for All Seasons, but if it&#8217;s there, Loeb cribbed it from Man of Steel, since the exact same thing described by the person voting for that moment happened there.</p>
<p>Anyone voting for Whatever Happened to&#8230;? Should read Superfolks. Moore borrowed liberally from that for a lot of the early portion of his career, and it&#8217;s rarely more obvious than in WHttMoT, where the twist ending is exactly the same.</p>
<p>Superman #400 is great, though I&#8217;m not sure why people would vote for only a section of it (or why DC insists on only reprinting part of it). The story is best experienced as a whole. It&#8217;s a very moving portrait of Superman as symbol</p>
<p>Anyway, my vote goes tot he story from Action #1 or 2 where Superman traps greedy mine owners in their own dangerous mine. It would take until Ellis&#8217;s Stormwatch and John Cumberland for Superman to ever be that cool again (Miracleman was a little to facist).</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Vingoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Vingoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a Superman fan at all, by any long shot but without question the best stories ever are For the Man Who Has Everything, and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Of late the last story to really impress me is Red Son- I&#039;m a Millar fan, admittedly, but even so, the premise and execution of Red Son is almost perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Superman fan at all, by any long shot but without question the best stories ever are For the Man Who Has Everything, and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. Of late the last story to really impress me is Red Son- I&#8217;m a Millar fan, admittedly, but even so, the premise and execution of Red Son is almost perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew-TLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew-TLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always liked the origin of the silver Brainiac (which Superman didn&#039;t have much to do with, true, but it suggested Clark would willingly date both Lois and Lana as the mood struck). Or, &quot;If Superman didn&#039;t exist, someone would have to create him.&quot;

My favorite title for a Superman story, meanwhile, is a lot easier: &quot;Swear to God, This Time We&#039;re Not Kidding&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always liked the origin of the silver Brainiac (which Superman didn&#8217;t have much to do with, true, but it suggested Clark would willingly date both Lois and Lana as the mood struck). Or, &#8220;If Superman didn&#8217;t exist, someone would have to create him.&#8221;</p>
<p>My favorite title for a Superman story, meanwhile, is a lot easier: &#8220;Swear to God, This Time We&#8217;re Not Kidding&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MarkAndrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Favorite?  Not Best?

There&#039;s a lot of weird ones I like that aren&#039;t quite Superman stories.  Steve Gerber&#039;s Phantom Zone mini-series, and I... I... well, I think the pre-Crisis Superbaby is the funniest thing ever.  

But SuperMAN stories?  Tougher.  I got a soft spot in my heart for Brave and the Bold 150, probably Bob Haney&#039;s last great issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Favorite?  Not Best?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of weird ones I like that aren&#8217;t quite Superman stories.  Steve Gerber&#8217;s Phantom Zone mini-series, and I&#8230; I&#8230; well, I think the pre-Crisis Superbaby is the funniest thing ever.  </p>
<p>But SuperMAN stories?  Tougher.  I got a soft spot in my heart for Brave and the Bold 150, probably Bob Haney&#8217;s last great issue.</p>
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