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56. Beta Ray Bill - 122 points

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57. Hank Pym (29 as Pym, 4 as Goliath, 21 as Ant-Man, 38 as Yellowjacket, 29 as Giant Man) - 121 points

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58. Quasar (Wendell Vaughn) - 120 points (6 first place votes)

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59. Squirrel Girl - 119 points (3 first place votes)

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60 (tie). Cable - 110 points (2 first place votes)

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If anyone wants to e-mail me reasons why you voted for these people, feel free to do so at bcronin@comicbookresources.com

  • Posted on October 5, 2007 @ 09:01 AM

38 Comments

Cable got two first place votes? Sheesh. Liefield was one, but who were the other two?

Should I be sad for Cable? He got beat out by Squirrel Girl.

All this time I thought Squirrel Girl was an elaborate joke being played on me by the entire internet.

Quasar was chosen as first for 6 people, that is more than many characters in the top 50, right?

Squirrel Girl!!! I think she was (appropriately) about ankle-high on my list. I'd say it's sort of a joke that the lamest powers can single-handedly defeat the toughest villains. I equate her to that viral question two years ago about how many military-trained five year old kids you can fend off on a basketball court.

BTW, I've only read the first hard cover of Marvel Zombies. Have they ever used Squirrel Girl for that universe? Suppose they'd probably have to expand the rules of who (or what) could convert.

Cable's a horrible character in concept but he's been written as interestingly as Zemo, Black Adam, etc. over the last five years.

He's had so many good writers on his book: Casey, James Robinson, Weinberg, Tischman, and the most recent run by Nicieza.

I really hate it when people shortchange Cable without actually reading the post Liefeld stuff.

He's the poster child of there being no bad characters, only badly written ones.

Beta Ray! Squirrel Girl!

Hells yeah.

The guy who hates big guns

October 5, 2007 at 11:00 am

Cable is, unintentionally, one of the funniest characters in comic history. He actually HAS been written well, but....I dunno. Cable is just funny.

I get the Cable backlash - the big guns, the convoluted backstory - but in the hands of Fabian Nicieza (and briefly, James Robinson), he's always been consistently portrayed as a humanistic warrior, which I always liked.

Really, the only Really Bad Cable writing I've ever seen has been under Jeph Loeb. So, y'know. There you go.

Ant-Man.

Booyah.

Beta Ray! Squirrel Girl!

Hells yeah.

Beta Ray Squirrel Girl is my favorite, too.

"Cable got two first place votes? Sheesh. Liefield was one, but who were the other two?"

Wow, that doesn't make any sense. I love math.

I wonder how long we'll have to wait to see a Nextwaver show up?

I have to imagine that Monica Rambeau isn't much further down the list. I know she was in my top ten at least.

I love Cable. He is big guns, big powers and zealous rightousness. He has the single most gloriously convoluted origin of anyone you'll ever see in comics. And comic books are THE place for great, insane origins.
Of course, it helps that I was 11 when he was introduced, and I thought he was totally badass. But I don't think that biases me at all. ha

I'm pretty sure Squirrel Girl made a cameo in the Marvel Zombies vs Army of Darkness series.

Also, Marvel's 351st fav character: NFL Superpro

ok, ghost rider lost to squirrel girl and cable? I mean, I can see the SG thing, but CABLE?

No MODOK yet? Am I the only one who voted for him?

And to chime in to the Cable argument. I like how Mike Carey writes him in X-Men.

I didn't realise Beta Ray Bill had such a following. Probably a good mix of fans from that era of Thor and fans of recent mini which was excellent.

His high placement surprises me. In a good way.

Everybody else was people I was expecting to see any minute now.

I certainly agree Cable is a worthy character. Just hurt by the circumstances of his origins. But people seem much more willing to forgive how terrible Deadpool was based on the strength of Joe Kelly etc.

Yet somehow those Casey/Ladronn issues don't pull Cable out of the Liefeld murk.

Ah well. Cable's cool. His only problem is that he's representative of everything wrong with the '90s.

Wow, that Cable cover has to be the worst thing John Romita Jr. ever did.

Chris Coke, you summed up pretty much everything there is to be said about why Cable doesn't get more love.

People who've actually read his solo title (or the team up book with Deadpool) know that Casey, Weinberg, Tischman, Macan, and especially Nicieza have written some of the best, most interesting superhero comics of the last decade. Heck, between Cable/Deadpool and Thunderbolts, I don't think anyone's tried nearly as hard as Nicieza to write legitimately post-Authority superhero comics.

Anyway, anyone who doubts that Cable's a great character would be best served by reading the two Tischman/Macan trades and vol 2 of Nicieza's Cable/Deadpool.

I've always liked Cable though I didn't vote for him. When you read about what Liefeld had planned for him he sounds like Doc Savage from the future. At this point the character is insanely complicated and has changed almost his whole outlook and methods many times over the past few years (ever time there was a new writer). However, when you step back and you see soldier of the future with great big guns... what more do you need?

That Cable issue was one of the very last Marvel straws for me. Reading it was arduously tedious (and tediously arduous). I basically disliked the character and everything that was happening with the mutants (and Marvel) at that point.
Around that time I finally dropped the whole line and sunk into the waiting arms of Vertigo and a handful of DCs (which then got kind of boring after a few years and pretty much got dropped in turn).

Aww darn! Makes me wish I would've actually sent in my entry form now. Would've given Squirrel Girl another 10 points and another 1st place vote. Though still not enough for the top 50 sadly.

Makes me very happy to see her this high still!

What suprises me is Quasar, no not is actual placing but 6 first place votes.

Not only is Quasar not my favorite Marvel character but breaking down sub-groups Avengers, cosmic characters, S.H.I.E.L.D. affilates, ect.

So this is one character were a voter comment would be greatly appreciated. The wikipedia entry has the
"everyman" description in it so get more creative than that.

Quasar was my #10 choice.

But I have a thing for cosmic heroes (my top 10 also includes Warlock, Thanos, and Silver Surfer, with Galactus almost making it as my #11). And his title was treated with a good level of seriousness. Solid cosmic action/drama yet still just a little goofy. Like the feel Dan Slott can create.

Basically, he's the Captain Marvel of my generation but I was thrilling to his adventures long before I read Starlin's Captain Marvel, so I have more of a rapport with Wendell than I do Mar-Vell.

And he's an everyman.

Kidding. Sort of.

But part of the thrill was that he was appointed Protector of the Universe (Mar-Vell's successor) and that to me always makes for good drama; a character in a position where what they do matters. Really matters. The difference between him and Mar-Vell is that Mar-Vell was a soldier but he's just a good fun-loving guy handed an enormous burden. And he doesn't have Eon for a mentor, but Eon's spawn, Epoch, who's just as new to being a mentor to the protector of the unvierse as Quasar is to being the protector.

And he got pregnant once. And that's cool.

Quasar ( Wendell Vaughn ) was my #1 pick. He's been my favorite character for a decade and a half.
I bought Quasar #1 off the rack when it came out and followed the series through it's conclusion at #60. Quasar had cool costumes and a fantastic power limited only by the imagination of its wielder, but the main reason I loved the character was Wendell himself. He's an ordinary guy who had this awesome power and responsibility thrust upon him, and did his best to live up to it.
During the 90's , when characters like Wolverine, Venom, and the Punisher were the hot items, Wendell Vaughn was one of the few genuine "good" guys. He looked up to Captain America and used Cap as an example of how a Hero conducted himself. He was always curteous ( going so far as to address the Absorbing Man as sir and Mr. Creel :) ) and compassionate.
Wendell used his head to find non-violent solutions to situations he could have easily "blasted" his way through which I found fitting for a Protector of the Universe.
Wendell Vaughn is a decent man trying his best to live up to an impossible job and holding himself to a high moral standard which is what defines a Hero in my book. Mark Gruenwald was one of the best things to ever happen to comics and Wendell was his crown jewel.
I've always identified with the character and wish he would have placed higher after his shabby treatment in Annihillation.
I've rambled enough, but someone DID ask for reasons :) ... BTW my #2 was Black Knight and #3 was Simon Williams.

Black Knight was my #5. Good taste, moochavelli.

Hope we see him soon.

Thanks for the replies, like I said Quasar at 58 no suprise at all I just found the voter testimonies one of the best thing about the countdown.

Great reasons moochavelli!

p.s. I also always had a soft spot for the Black Knight.

I love Quasar as the world's corniest Kyle Raynor.

Cable's early appearances were enough to put me off of comics for nearly a decade.

Check out Not Blog X for some re-readings of the early 90's X-titles. yikes.

Squirrel Girl! I think that just made my day!

Back when I was a Marvel nut and was avoiding the post-Crisis DC (which I later embrased, but that's neither here nor there), I considered Quasar to be "Green Lantern done right."

Similiar powers, similiar backstory, similiar role in the setting. But, human, indentifiable, and who used his brain for more than just different shapes for his Power Ri -- er, Quantam Bands to create.

Matt says he's a corney Kyle Raynor, and he's right. Except that I'd add that he also predates Kyle by a significant margin.

Theno

This list really makes me wonder who #61-65 are

Wow. Squirrel Girl beat Cable. But Doom ranked higher than her on this list, even if she handed him his butt when they fought.

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