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It’s really [laughs] funny to [laughs] read Brubaker’s [laughs] comments, because they make it seem as if he’s actually had his arm twisted, yet wants to [laughs] retain his dignity.

Kind of like when John McCain was forced to come out in support of George Bush after the slimeball and his buddy Rove had sunk his own presidential chances through slander and lies.

Have you ever seen that Fun With Real Audio clip from SNL?

I’ll post a link if I find it.

I think the lack of a belt makes the costume look a little weird. I also think Ross should learn how to draw more than one face.

Let me be the first to say that that costume is pure, distilled awfulness.

But he has a gun!

REVOLUTIONARY.

And a knife. Dude’s prepared.

It’s not really that Ross needs to learn to draw more than one face, it’s that he needs to get more than one friend.

Pure distilled awfulness? No. It actually looks quite nice.

But not in either of those shots. So if Cap spends all the book standing very still in a few select poses, it’ll all be good…

Reminds me of the awful armor they put Daredevil in years ago.

Well…I don’t normally disparage comic artists, but…blech…the design reminds me of the old painted-on costumes that I thought all the modern comic artistes grew out of. Snarkiness aside, I have to say that Steve Epting can do no wrong in my book and he even makes the wretched Ross design easier to look at.

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That suit looks a lot like the suit that Ross designed for the Spider-Man movie.

Same black legs, arms and lower torso, with the original colors confined to an upside down triangle on the upper torso.

It’s not terrible, but it’s not really good.

Pure distilled awfulness? No. It actually looks quite nice.

This is how we know you’re wrong about things.

I don’t know, the stripey part being all ruffled like actual flag-bunting is kind of a nice touch…

…OK, OK, I got nothing either. The original uniform is such a classic case of ‘ain’t broke, don’t fix it’, I’m bound to question the judgment of anyone who even tries.

I never, ever post comments, but, my god, that is one hideous redesign.

Hey look! Archie are bringing back the Sheild!!!

Oh wait…

Ross’ colouring is really bad lately. Why is everything so goddamn shiny?

I vote no. Captain America’s costume was not broken and did not need fixing and even if it did, this is not fixing.

Where’s Brubaker explaining stuff?

I couldn’t see it in the article the link took me to.

Where’s Brubaker explaining stuff?

I couldn’t see it in the article the link took me to.

Oops - added the link!

Yeech.

As Crash-Man observed, this is just Ross’ Spider-Man movie costume mixed with the Shield. Looks hideous.

And they actually looked at the crappy movie serial costume for inspiration? Why not add in Matt Salinger’s wrinkly rubber ears while they’re at it?

And I’m 90% certain that’s Bucky “Winter Soldier” Barnes in the Cap outfit. The gun, knife and shoulder star are sure tipoffs.

Okay, so here’s the armored Cap. Now we just have to wait for the cyborg Cap, the kid Cap, the alien Cap, and Cap with a mullet.

Kidding aside, I’m largely neutral to this costume. The chest design is kind of nice, but the rest of the suit being black doesn’t work for me at all.

“Okay, so here’s the armored Cap. Now we just have to wait for the cyborg Cap, the kid Cap, the alien Cap, and Cap with a mullet.”

That’s why we have patriot from Young Avengers. So he can fill the role of Kid Cap. As for the design, it looks like Steel from the JSA covers Ross recently did.

Blech. I wonder if the new Cap is a former mime.

Did you wash your costume in Windex?

‘Cause I can clearly see my reflection in your chest!

I love how the poster has him comin’ atcha with that gun…this is one Sentinel of Liberty who isn’t afraid to bust a cap!

Heh…bust a cap…

My main thought about this costume is that it’s really, really gay. And not in the sense of using gay as a disparagement; the lines largely serve to profoundly highlight the wearer’s crotch, v-muscle, and pectoral areas. The use of black almost gives the impression of a man stripping out of a jumpsuit, and he’s wearing Captain America-themed bodypaint beneath.

I’m not complaining, but this sort of sexualization of the male figure is pretty unusual in comics. Then again, Alex Ross did give us the giant crotch bulge cover….

I do not like it with the gun
I do not like it it is no fun
I do not like it with the black
I do not like it in the back
I do not like it it lacks zing
I do not like it by Steve Epting
I do not like Captain America’s new costume, sucks it does…

Red, White, Blue… And BLACK! That’s not Captain America at all! That’s Captain South Korea! Can’t fool me, you commie!

I thought it was kinda funny to read Ed Brubaker explain how this was always intended to be the case when they killed off Steve Rogers back in #25. It just seemed funny because his comments made it sound like anyone DOUBTED that was the case. Who would think this wasn’t planned?

It’s like when they announced Millar and Hitch on FF, and Millar was all ‘No one saw this coming’… except you know, the majority of the posters on message boards.

Who says the 90’s are over with?

They’re BACK! And THIS time, they’re packing a pistol and ready to KICK ASS!

Why would anyone get behind that?

The new man known as Captain America is clearly a guy that hated Steve Rogers in life.

I don’t usually post, but I am a huge Cap fan, have been for years, and this sucks. He finally got a writer who told interesting stories about him and they kill him off, then they bring back this junk. This represents the worst of comic books. Captain America was iconic. His uniform was perfect. Stop screwing up the good stuff, Marvel.

“So not only will someone other than Steve Rogers step into the Cap costume come January, they’ll be armed with both a gun and a knife to go along with Cap’s classic shield. There’s no doubt fan reaction will be loud and varied.”

Hey, you can’t be CAPTAIN AMERICA without a gun! We’re ALL ABOUT guns!

Makes me sick.

My bet is that Winter Soldier is the new Cap. Although Brubaker will do well with it (he writes so well that he can literally polich this turd) the entire concept makes me want to vomit.

It’s a step up from “Punisher is Cap” but not all THAT much.

Bring back a Captain America that represents the American dream and ideal. We need at least one hero that still does that.

Amen, HellRazor. Even though Cap was a soldier first and a gun would be natural, there are enough grim and gritty characters out there. Cap was great because he not only stuck to his ideals, the other heroes tried hard to meet the standard he set. What now?

[…] Assuming you don’t just get your news from TMZ.com, you know that Marvel Comics killed off Steve Rogers, the original Captain America, a few months ago in a ploy to get mainstream media attention for about a day-and-a-half.  The whole thing was more cheap and dirty than Paris Hilton in a Tijuana donkey show.Today, Marvel unveiled images of the all-new Captain America, to be introduced in upcoming Captain America issue #34. […]

The original (and the best) Captain America had a strict no-killing policy. It’s what separated him from being a primary-color-clad version of the Punisher.

Is the new Cap operating sans-scruples, or is he just out to kneecap some b*tches?

Theres a limit to how outraged I can get with this, because at the end we all know that A) this is just going to be a finite story, B) the real Captain America will be back eventually with his normal costume, and C) it’s Brubaker - he’ll make it work.

All that being said, that really is a horrible costume. Can’t stand how shiny it is.

The original (and the best) Captain America had a strict no-killing policy. It’s what separated him from being a primary-color-clad version of the Punisher

The original Captain America killed frequently in the Golden Age, and even killed in the Silver Age.

It was not until relatively recent (say, about 20 years) that Captain America developed a strict no-killing policy.

I don’t have a problem with Captain America, the soldier, killing. It feels weird, though, with Captain America, the super hero.

I don’t think Cap should kill like the Punisher, totally agreed.

Just that it shouldn’t be that out of place for him to kill, if need be.

Hey,

we had an all-new all-different Thor
we had an all-new all-different Batman
we had an all-new all-different Superman
we had an all-new all-different Spider-Man
we had an all-new all-different Iron Man
we had an all-new all-different FF
we had an all-new all-different Hulk
we also had two all-new all-different Captain America (Nomad and the Captain)

Where are they now? Forgotten!
Where are the original now? With us!

It’s only a story, a chapter… in a couple of years we’ll have the original back with us!

I would guess it’s an alternate costume for a fill-in Captain America, probably Bucky. In which case, it’s fine except for the shininess. Ross has the black parts of the costume made of what seem to be normal cloth, complete with realistic creasing, and the rest is made of… metal? Plastic? Gloss paint? Tone that down, though, and it’ll work.

Looks like Cap took a look at Union Jack’s outfit and finallty decided who had the cooler costume.

Silly h’American. The star-spagled banner’s no union jack, that’s for sure!

South Korea is not a communist nation nor is it an enemy of the USA. Quite the opposite actually lol.
Don’t like the shininess at all. Don’t mind anything else (then again I’m not a big fan).

“Where are they now? Forgotten!
Where are the original now? With us!

It’s only a story, a chapter… in a couple of years we’ll have the original back with us!”

Due to decades of cheap publicity gimmicks, plot contrivances for shock value, and generally poor storytelling, most of the originals are FUBR’d to the point that we now have to have a half dozen “alternate” or “ultimate” versions of the same characters running around.

The big difference in the past is that when situations like Cap quitting would occur, the writers still respected the characters and they respected the readers. The situations were always obviously something temporary and were usually resolved in 6 issues give or take. And more often than not a good story was told in the process. And they weren’t done merely to generate sales spikes and other short term benefits.

Brubaker’s a great writer (sadly one of the ONLY great writers), and I’m sure he will make it interesting. But a former KGB assassin with a general disregard for human life running around with Cap’s shield next to his pistol and knife isn’t Cap, at least not to me. Its the same thing to me as putting the Punisher in that role…no matter how good the story is, it’s a bastardization of the character.

Personally I thought Brubaker’s take on Cap has been excellent up to the point of his “death”, which in my opinion is a major mistep. I don’t think we really needed to “kill” him during what is bound to be a historic run on the title. Stuff like this is just cheap sensationalism and I would think Marvel would think more highly of Brubaker than reducing him to that level.

Oh yeah…and that costume is hideous, I almost prefer the 90’s armor to this look.

I’ve always liked the US Agent’s black “reverse Cap” costume.

This Captain America with a gun is almost X-TREME! enough. He still needs to wear a trenchcoat and ride a skateboard. Oh, and he needs a catchphrase, like “This A don’t stand for France, bey-otch.”

Yeah…Hmmm…Looks as tho’ Super Soldier has returned! I have hung in there with Cap since the late 60’s, and I know that sometimes a little chnage is good, but come on Alex…this just sucks so much…! And along with the gun and knife, he’s carrying a canteen…!

“Hey look at me, I can throw my shield at Red Skull, grab a drink, and have it back on my belt before the it returns”

Once again, if the wheel ain’t broke, don’t fix it!!!

The gun isn’t a revolutionary addition — it’s probably a retro nod to the 1944 Captain American serial where Cap carried a pistol but no shield.

In effect, in that serial, Cap was like Spy Smasher with a different costume.

Needs more pouches. Maybe a strap of them around his thigh. And the gun isn’t nearly big enough.

It sort of looks like he’s wearing a poncho in the Epting cover, and I have to say, it’s about time.

Is it a real poncho, or like a Sears poncho?

Man some of you guys can be downright harsh, if they were puttin this on Steve Rogers I would totally agree but someone new taking up the, I know Ross likes to make his costumes shiny but it’s a bit too much and unbalanced (what about the rest?)

Anyway, after reading some of your comments and looking at the art for some time, I’ll have to agree that the black is overwhelming, I don’t mind it in the sleeves but there’s too much black throughout the rest of the costume, especially the boots, the boots and gloves must match. Black causes to many problems with the balance of this costume they should have used black sparingly or no black at all. And give him a belt will ya.

But in the end, it’s almost impossible to top the classic costume, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

So… What, is Captain America Iron Man all of a sudden?

At first, I thought Cap had lost his pants at the cleaners. On second look, I think it looks like he’s wearing black coveralls over his uniform. Maybe he had to fix a leaking toilet, or was working on his car’s engine…

The gun? No problem. Captain America has always been a soldier, hasn’t he?

Ehhh…knowing Marvel, it’s probably the Poncho of Cosmic Destiny or something.

Needs more pouches. Maybe a strap of them around his thigh. And the gun isn’t nearly big enough.

Some grenades at the waist, you think? Or is that passe now? Wait…how about a few automatic rounds looped down one leg?

*sigh*

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“Brubaker’s a great writer (sadly one of the ONLY great writers), and I’m sure he will make it interesting. But a former KGB assassin with a general disregard for human life running around with Cap’s shield next to his pistol and knife isn’t Cap, at least not to me. Its the same thing to me as putting the Punisher in that role…no matter how good the story is, it’s a bastardization of the character.”
Assuming Bucky is the new Cap, I’m sure Bru realises that he isn’t really Cap, too. It’ll probably be exactly like Knightfall and Reign of the Supermen, where the whole point of the story was to highlight the strengths of the original character by exposing the flaws of his ‘hip and now’ replacement. So, if they do go down that path, it’s not exactly original, but it’s not a bastardisation of the character, since the whole point is to show how great the real character is.

They forgot to take of the protective plastic cling-wrap stuff, like was on the control panel of my air conditioner.

Needs shoulder pads.

Not.

Or maybe some robotic spider legs sprouting from the back.

Hey, did Alex Ross just discover the ‘plastic wrap’ filter in PhotoShop?

I just posted the referenced video (from comment #1) on my blog.

Here it is.

So he’s protecting his nose quite well, but you could easily gouge his eyes out?

So, if they do go down that path, it’s not exactly original, but it’s not a bastardisation of the character, since the whole point is to show how great the real character is.

Yeah, but this is the internet, so who cares what the ‘point’ of the story is?
We want the character we weren’t buying back the way he was, and we want it now!

I was interested to see that Ross was partially inspired by the Cap movie serial. I immediately thought of it when I saw the gun. Unfortunately, he referred to it as “awful”, which it most certainly is not. It is a horrible misrepresentation of the character (it gets all the details wrong), but it’s a damn fine action serial, regardless.

I wonder how much of the situation is connected to the fact that Marvel has to share the Cap rights with the Simon family?

I mean, they’ve stripped out the costume and Steve Rogers, I wonder how much of that is from a legal persepctive?

Makes no difference. Marvel had the strongest shared universe up until the early 1990s, and now have pissed that away with such POS stories as ‘Civil War’.

I am not totally down on Marvel. I loved the first six issues of the Huston ‘Moon Knight’, and Annihilation was a great space story.

Pity the focus was more on Civil War than Annihilation.

Until they bring back the real cap…

Make mine…anyone but Marvel

Lame costume.

Lame idea.

Lame.

Lame.

Lame.

Captain America is legend, and who is Captain America but Steve Rogers,
and the only one that should wear the original custom. The new hero should
have a custom kind of like the original (like Ross portrayed) so not to take
away from Rogers legacy. Again the new hero would not have the powers
or abilities that Rogers had so Ross give him a gun and knife kind of like an
equalizer. Marvel and DC both guilty of changing customs and abilities (weapons)
when their heroes are replaced due to injury or death only to have the original
custom return when the original hero returns. This new Captain America though
different should fill the void till the original one returns. You never know Marvel
might pit the old against the new or even team them up when they figure out how
to bring back Rogers from the dead.