Comments on: 365 Reasons to Love Comics #285 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/ Comic Book Resources Presents... Comics Should Be Good! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:18:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mary Warner http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-738782 Mary Warner Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:23:22 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-738782 The Vulture is one of THE Greatest bad-guys ever! I've never understood the people that don't like him. (Whenever I've read any complaints about the Vulture, they always seem most upset by the fact that he's old. That makes no sense at all. It's nothing more than outright prejudice. It's not as though his age is a handicap in any way-- His flight suit adds to his physical strength, so he's tough enough for anyone up to Spidey's level.) One of the things I really love about Toombs is that he is so MEAN-- rotten to the core. But he's NOT a sadist or a sociopath, which are horribly overused nowadays. It is true that a lot of writers don't know how to use him, but it should be the editor's job to shoot down their lousy stories when they propose them. The Vulture is one of THE Greatest bad-guys ever! I've never understood the people that don't like him. (Whenever I've read any complaints about the Vulture, they always seem most upset by the fact that he's old. That makes no sense at all. It's nothing more than outright prejudice. It's not as though his age is a handicap in any way-- His flight suit adds to his physical strength, so he's tough enough for anyone up to Spidey's level.)
One of the things I really love about Toombs is that he is so MEAN-- rotten to the core. But he's NOT a sadist or a sociopath, which are horribly overused nowadays.
It is true that a lot of writers don't know how to use him, but it should be the editor's job to shoot down their lousy stories when they propose them.

]]> By: Comics Should Be Good! » 365 Reasons to Love Comics Archive http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-238946 Comics Should Be Good! » 365 Reasons to Love Comics Archive Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:12:32 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-238946 [...] 285. The Vulture [...] [...] 285. The Vulture [...]

]]> By: kirbydotter http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-227065 kirbydotter Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:56:20 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-227065 Hey! I like Abe Vigoda every time I see him in a movie or tv episode. I recenly bought the first season of BARNEY MILLER on dvd and he's never been better than in this great comedy series, one of the best tv shows ever! I've always liked the classic original Spidey villains best. Maybe it's because I came to Spidey via the Spider-man cartoon from the 60's (then was hooked by early John Romita sr.). But Electro, Octopus, Mysterio, all those great Ditko creations are the best. Ditko's Vulture was really spooky, the old face, the wing tips that almost looked like blades... PLus the Vulture symbolism; the scavenger, death hovering over the dying... Spooky when you think about it... But they are some characters that only Ditko could draw with effect. And I think that's why Vulture is so often dismissed as a serious Spidey villains nowadays. Hey! I like Abe Vigoda every time I see him in a movie or tv episode. I recenly bought the first season of BARNEY MILLER on dvd and he's never been better than in this great comedy series, one of the best tv shows ever!

I've always liked the classic original Spidey villains best. Maybe it's because I came to Spidey via the Spider-man cartoon from the 60's (then was hooked by early John Romita sr.). But Electro, Octopus, Mysterio, all those great Ditko creations are the best. Ditko's Vulture was really spooky, the old face, the wing tips that almost looked like blades... PLus the Vulture symbolism; the scavenger, death hovering over the dying... Spooky when you think about it... But they are some characters that only Ditko could draw with effect. And I think that's why Vulture is so often dismissed as a serious Spidey villains nowadays.

]]> By: SwanShadow http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226877 SwanShadow Sun, 14 Oct 2007 05:34:27 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226877 One of the few original published pages I own is an Alex Saviuk page from <em>Web of Spider-Man</em> #45, in which Spidey KOs the Vulture in the desert outside Las Vegas. Good times. One of the few original published pages I own is an Alex Saviuk page from Web of Spider-Man #45, in which Spidey KOs the Vulture in the desert outside Las Vegas. Good times.

]]> By: stephen cade http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226839 stephen cade Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:46:19 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226839 That cover link shows a Little Lulu cover... I too am grieved they didn't go with Ben Kingsley as the Vulture. SInce seeing the first movie I've been hoping they'd do the Vulture as it would be a terrific character study--soemthing the second movie really had going for it with Doc Ock. Kingsley would still be perfect for the next movie though. That cover link shows a Little Lulu cover...

I too am grieved they didn't go with Ben Kingsley as the Vulture. SInce seeing the first movie I've been hoping they'd do the Vulture as it would be a terrific character study--soemthing the second movie really had going for it with Doc Ock. Kingsley would still be perfect for the next movie though.

]]> By: Evan Waters http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226722 Evan Waters Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:57:47 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226722 It wasn't until John H.'s post that I figured out that the Vulture is bald because actual vultures are bald as well. Nice visual joke by Ditko there. It wasn't until John H.'s post that I figured out that the Vulture is bald because actual vultures are bald as well.

Nice visual joke by Ditko there.

]]> By: Richard http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226678 Richard Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:07:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226678 I vote Antonio Banderas for Kraven. He looks the part. I vote Antonio Banderas for Kraven. He looks the part.

]]> By: Jon H http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226652 Jon H Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:18:01 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226652 "Oh hell no. No AARP members, please. Maybe Russell Crowe." Or maybe Liev Schrieber, who's taller (6'3"). "Oh hell no. No AARP members, please. Maybe Russell Crowe."

Or maybe Liev Schrieber, who's taller (6'3").

]]> By: Jon H http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226649 Jon H Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:15:18 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226649 "Schwarzenegger as Kraven" Oh hell no. No AARP members, please. Maybe Russell Crowe. "Schwarzenegger as Kraven"

Oh hell no. No AARP members, please. Maybe Russell Crowe.

]]> By: Richard http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226613 Richard Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:56:39 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226613 My favorite Vulture appearance is in Amazing Spider-Man #63, where Toomes beats the crap out of Blackie Drago, who had replaced him as the Vulture in #48-#49. Great cover... http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=22085&zoom=4 My favorite Vulture appearance is in Amazing Spider-Man #63, where Toomes beats the crap out of Blackie Drago, who had replaced him as the Vulture in #48-#49.

Great cover...

http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=22085&zoom=4

]]> By: Tom Russell http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226582 Tom Russell Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:45:58 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226582 The Vulture is one of my favourites, because he's so weird and old. The Lee-Dito Spider-Man was a weird book, with lots of wonderfully rough edges-- when he became more of a "mainstream" superhero (Romita and on) and faced more "mainstream" villains-- like the Rhino and the Kingpin-- the book lost something immeasurably wonderful. The Vulture is one of my favourites, because he's so weird and old. The Lee-Dito Spider-Man was a weird book, with lots of wonderfully rough edges-- when he became more of a "mainstream" superhero (Romita and on) and faced more "mainstream" villains-- like the Rhino and the Kingpin-- the book lost something immeasurably wonderful.

]]> By: Vincent Paul Bartilucci http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226560 Vincent Paul Bartilucci Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:01:56 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226560 Though I've never been what you could call a Spider-Man fan, I do love the original Lee / Ditko run and villains like the Vulture are the primary reason why. Spidey's original Ditko-designed rogues gallery is one of the greatest in comics. The only Spidey villains introduced post-Ditko that are the least bit interesting to me are Kingpin and Rhino. The rest, feh ... A Spider-Man 4 with Kingsley as the Vulture and Schwarzenegger as Kraven would be bliss. Though I've never been what you could call a Spider-Man fan, I do love the original Lee / Ditko run and villains like the Vulture are the primary reason why. Spidey's original Ditko-designed rogues gallery is one of the greatest in comics. The only Spidey villains introduced post-Ditko that are the least bit interesting to me are Kingpin and Rhino. The rest, feh ...

A Spider-Man 4 with Kingsley as the Vulture and Schwarzenegger as Kraven would be bliss.

]]> By: Flush it all away http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226551 Flush it all away Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:38:29 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226551 Good entry! The Vulture's definitely a reason to love comics. Although I could never really take him seriously as a life-or-death threat to Spidey, it was always cool to see this little old guy doing battle with a much younger, super-strong hero. Good entry! The Vulture's definitely a reason to love comics. Although I could never really take him seriously as a life-or-death threat to Spidey, it was always cool to see this little old guy doing battle with a much younger, super-strong hero.

]]> By: mrjayberry http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226542 mrjayberry Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:28:55 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226542 Jon H, if I remember right Vulture 2099, is a cannibal, perhaps someone can tell us for sure. Jon H, if I remember right Vulture 2099, is a cannibal, perhaps someone can tell us for sure.

]]> By: Ian http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226514 Ian Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:20:15 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226514 Seeing all this talk of Vulture in a Spider-Man movie really makes me lament the fact that he was replaced by Venom in number 3. For those that don't know Vulture was in the original draft and Kingsley was approached for the role. I like the Vulture and yeah, he works becuase he is old and decrepit. I also like the green jumpsuit more than the black and red one he has sported in recent years. Seeing all this talk of Vulture in a Spider-Man movie really makes me lament the fact that he was replaced by Venom in number 3. For those that don't know Vulture was in the original draft and Kingsley was approached for the role.

I like the Vulture and yeah, he works becuase he is old and decrepit. I also like the green jumpsuit more than the black and red one he has sported in recent years.

]]> By: Billy F http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226491 Billy F Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:55:13 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226491 Turner D Century better show up in this list. Greatest. Villain. Ever. Turner D Century better show up in this list. Greatest. Villain. Ever.

]]> By: Roger Stern http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226481 Roger Stern Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:26:16 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226481 The Vulture is Spider-Man's greatest villain, bar none. -- Uncle Rog The Vulture is Spider-Man's greatest villain, bar none.

-- Uncle Rog

]]> By: Ian Astheimer http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226426 Ian Astheimer Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:05:21 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226426 Vigoda really must play Vulture in a Spidey flick. Vigoda really must play Vulture in a Spidey flick.

]]> By: Pedro Bouça http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226356 Pedro Bouça Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:16:08 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226356 No, he was ROBBING dead bodies on the graveyard! Anyway, it is rare to see anyone who really "gets" the Vulture. He is awesome EXACTLY because he is an old man and doesn't take crap from those newfangled young super-heroes! Best, Hunter (Pedro Bouça) No, he was ROBBING dead bodies on the graveyard!

Anyway, it is rare to see anyone who really "gets" the Vulture. He is awesome EXACTLY because he is an old man and doesn't take crap from those newfangled young super-heroes!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

]]> By: TF_loki http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/comment-page-1/#comment-226202 TF_loki Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:33:38 +0000 http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/12/365-reasons-to-love-comics-285/#comment-226202 Was that O'neill story the one where he was eating dead bodies in a graveyard? That was damn creepy. Was that O'neill story the one where he was eating dead bodies in a graveyard? That was damn creepy.

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