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	<title>Comments on: Bold Offer for Arena #1</title>
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		<title>By: Superhero Site Snark LinkBlogging &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-373369</link>
		<dc:creator>Superhero Site Snark LinkBlogging &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At Comics Should Be Good, they point out the following writer&#8217;s guarantee:  Keith Champagne came by the blog a couple of weeks ago to make the following offer - if you buy his upcoming comic, Countdown: Arena #1, and do not enjoy it - he will purchase the comic back from you at double the cover price. His contact info is keith.o.graphics@snet.net. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At Comics Should Be Good, they point out the following writer&#8217;s guarantee:  Keith Champagne came by the blog a couple of weeks ago to make the following offer - if you buy his upcoming comic, Countdown: Arena #1, and do not enjoy it - he will purchase the comic back from you at double the cover price. His contact info is <a href="mailto:keith.o.graphics@snet.net">keith.o.graphics@snet.net</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Countdown: Arena #1 Review</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-371426</link>
		<dc:creator>Comics Should Be Good! &#187; Countdown: Arena #1 Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As noted awhile back, Keith Champagne thinks that everyone should give Countdown: Arena a shot, and if they did not like it, he&#8217;d buy the book back from them. So I think it only fair to give Arena its own review here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As noted awhile back, Keith Champagne thinks that everyone should give Countdown: Arena a shot, and if they did not like it, he&#8217;d buy the book back from them. So I think it only fair to give Arena its own review here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Burgas</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-299610</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Burgas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hasn&#039;t come out yet, Dan.  I&#039;m not sure when it&#039;s supposed to be out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hasn't come out yet, Dan.  I'm not sure when it's supposed to be out.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-299526</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I&#039;ve been broke and away from the comic shop for weeks now. I missed this one. Did anybody try it out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I've been broke and away from the comic shop for weeks now. I missed this one. Did anybody try it out?</p>
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		<title>By: Roel</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-250089</link>
		<dc:creator>Roel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why I&#039;m catching grief when I point out the inherent flaws in a &quot;double your money back&quot; offer.

At no point did I say that Keith was an asshole.  Nor did I imply it.  All I did was point out the offer had a major problem that needed to be addressed.  Which, it seems, Keith is openly acknowledging.

When offers like this are made, you can make the exact same point by saying: I will give you your money back (not double your money, which then creates a profit incentive), and limit of one per customer.  You protect yourself, while still providing a guarantee to the potential consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure why I'm catching grief when I point out the inherent flaws in a "double your money back" offer.</p>
<p>At no point did I say that Keith was an asshole.  Nor did I imply it.  All I did was point out the offer had a major problem that needed to be addressed.  Which, it seems, Keith is openly acknowledging.</p>
<p>When offers like this are made, you can make the exact same point by saying: I will give you your money back (not double your money, which then creates a profit incentive), and limit of one per customer.  You protect yourself, while still providing a guarantee to the potential consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-249991</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course, I also think that if you read World War III when the trade comes out next week (shameless plug), separated from the hype surrounding the initial release, more people might find something of merit in there.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Tell ya what, Keith, I&#039;ll even re-read the WWIII issues on their own and do a bit on them next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course, I also think that if you read World War III when the trade comes out next week (shameless plug), separated from the hype surrounding the initial release, more people might find something of merit in there.</p></blockquote>
<p> Tell ya what, Keith, I'll even re-read the WWIII issues on their own and do a bit on them next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-249833</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess thatâ€™s kinda the whole point of the offer, Dan. There wouldnâ€™t be much point trying to convince people who already thought they were going to like it to buy it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just want to make sure I don&#039;t get one of those &quot;well, you wouldn&#039;t have liked it anyway&quot; responses if I want to return it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess thatâ€™s kinda the whole point of the offer, Dan. There wouldnâ€™t be much point trying to convince people who already thought they were going to like it to buy it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I just want to make sure I don't get one of those "well, you wouldn't have liked it anyway" responses if I want to return it.</p>
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		<title>By: Freeform2</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-249458</link>
		<dc:creator>Freeform2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, should I buy everything that&#039;s printed? How far must we extend open-mindedness... If we can&#039;t use discretion and make educated guesses about what we may enjoy should we just turn over our bank accounts to Marvel and DC and let them send us whatever they want?

I respect that you stand by your work, but I grow tired of people telling me not to judge a work until I&#039;ve experienced it... 

With all the entertainment out there, I don&#039;t have time to try something just on a promise it is &quot;good&quot; or &quot;You&#039;ll like it&quot;. I have to do my research and make an educated guess on whether its worth risking my time and money to enjoy a specific work.

In fact, there is so much good stuff I like, I actually have to prioritize and make sure I&#039;m enjoying the best possible stuff I can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, should I buy everything that's printed? How far must we extend open-mindedness... If we can't use discretion and make educated guesses about what we may enjoy should we just turn over our bank accounts to Marvel and DC and let them send us whatever they want?</p>
<p>I respect that you stand by your work, but I grow tired of people telling me not to judge a work until I've experienced it... </p>
<p>With all the entertainment out there, I don't have time to try something just on a promise it is "good" or "You'll like it". I have to do my research and make an educated guess on whether its worth risking my time and money to enjoy a specific work.</p>
<p>In fact, there is so much good stuff I like, I actually have to prioritize and make sure I'm enjoying the best possible stuff I can.</p>
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		<title>By: keith champagne</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-249433</link>
		<dc:creator>keith champagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I am way too much of an asshole to buy back 500 copies from one wiseacre--based on the principle that he&#039;s more clever than me for thinking of that. But I stand behind my offer so long as it&#039;s not deliberately abused. 

Keep an open mind, don&#039;t judge something before you read it. I don&#039;t think Arena is going to reinvent the entire form of comics but it&#039;s so much more than fan wankery. I liked the challenge of finding ways to incorporate the fan vote and I feel it&#039;s the best writing work I&#039;ve done in comics to date.

Of course, I also think that if you read World War III when the trade comes out next week (shameless plug), separated from the hype surrounding the initial release, more people might find something of merit in there. 

So what do I know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I am way too much of an asshole to buy back 500 copies from one wiseacre--based on the principle that he's more clever than me for thinking of that. But I stand behind my offer so long as it's not deliberately abused. </p>
<p>Keep an open mind, don't judge something before you read it. I don't think Arena is going to reinvent the entire form of comics but it's so much more than fan wankery. I liked the challenge of finding ways to incorporate the fan vote and I feel it's the best writing work I've done in comics to date.</p>
<p>Of course, I also think that if you read World War III when the trade comes out next week (shameless plug), separated from the hype surrounding the initial release, more people might find something of merit in there. </p>
<p>So what do I know?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-248645</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When you say, â€œplease take him up on it,â€ youâ€™re just encouraging people to buy the book, right? Or are we conspiring to bankrupt Keith Champagne via the power of the blogosphere?&lt;/blockquote&gt; Oh yeah, I totally admire the move by Champagne, so I wanted more folks to hear about it.

Although, he&#039;s clearly an asshole, because he probably wouldn&#039;t pay me double if I purchased 500 copies and returned them to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When you say, â€œplease take him up on it,â€ youâ€™re just encouraging people to buy the book, right? Or are we conspiring to bankrupt Keith Champagne via the power of the blogosphere?</p></blockquote>
<p> Oh yeah, I totally admire the move by Champagne, so I wanted more folks to hear about it.</p>
<p>Although, he's clearly an asshole, because he probably wouldn't pay me double if I purchased 500 copies and returned them to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-248628</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s kinda the whole point of the offer, Dan. There wouldn&#039;t be much point trying to convince people who already thought they were going to like it to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that's kinda the whole point of the offer, Dan. There wouldn't be much point trying to convince people who already thought they were going to like it to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Apodaca</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-248310</link>
		<dc:creator>Apodaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it fair if I buy it, expecting not to like it? I promise to be honest about my opinion of it, and I will totally admit it if I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it fair if I buy it, expecting not to like it? I promise to be honest about my opinion of it, and I will totally admit it if I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: TF_loki</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-248073</link>
		<dc:creator>TF_loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott McDaniel&#039;s drawing it... I love it already. I&#039;d love &#039;The Phone Book&#039; as written by Bruce Jones &amp; Chuck Austen if he drew it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott McDaniel's drawing it... I love it already. I'd love 'The Phone Book' as written by Bruce Jones &amp; Chuck Austen if he drew it....</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247958</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting idea but there are probably some dickish/clever people out there who will buy it, like it, but send it back to him and then buy it again. That way they make a profit of $3 (or whatever the price is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting idea but there are probably some dickish/clever people out there who will buy it, like it, but send it back to him and then buy it again. That way they make a profit of $3 (or whatever the price is).</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Williams</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say, &quot;please take him up on it,&quot; you&#039;re just encouraging people to buy the book, right? Or are we conspiring to bankrupt Keith Champagne via the power of the blogosphere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say, "please take him up on it," you're just encouraging people to buy the book, right? Or are we conspiring to bankrupt Keith Champagne via the power of the blogosphere?</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Pascale</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247796</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Pascale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m going to buy it, and I&#039;m pretty darned sure that I&#039;ll enjoy it.  His three-parter in Green Lantern Corps was fantastic.

And...he&#039;s just so darned cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I'm going to buy it, and I'm pretty darned sure that I'll enjoy it.  His three-parter in Green Lantern Corps was fantastic.</p>
<p>And...he's just so darned cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247584</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah, I&#039;m typoing all over the internet today.  I meant Keith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, I'm typoing all over the internet today.  I meant Keith.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247583</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met Keithe at a convention a few weeks ago.  He&#039;s pretty damn confident about Arena and from what I&#039;ve seen and talked to him about, he has every right to be.  I&#039;ll be purchasing a copy.  ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met Keithe at a convention a few weeks ago.  He's pretty damn confident about Arena and from what I've seen and talked to him about, he has every right to be.  I'll be purchasing a copy.  ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247525</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So if I buy 500 copies and dislike all of them, he will double my money?

Somehow, I doubt it. &lt;/blockquote&gt; Yeah, what an asshole Keith Champagne is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So if I buy 500 copies and dislike all of them, he will double my money?</p>
<p>Somehow, I doubt it. </p></blockquote>
<p> Yeah, what an asshole Keith Champagne is.</p>
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		<title>By: Roel</title>
		<link>http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/10/30/bold-offer-for-arena-1/comment-page-1/#comment-247521</link>
		<dc:creator>Roel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I buy 500 copies and dislike all of them, he will double my money?

Somehow, I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I buy 500 copies and dislike all of them, he will double my money?</p>
<p>Somehow, I doubt it.</p>
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